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Your ideological rival in General

Neo Kervoskia
25-09-2005, 16:10
^see above.
I think mine is DHomme, although as I have said a few times, if I were still a socialist I would probably be his brother in arms.
New Foxxinnia
25-09-2005, 16:11
No one.

Okay, maybe Colodia, but that's it.
Bolol
25-09-2005, 16:15
That would have to be VoteEarly.

That Calvinist drove me nuts!
Eutrusca
25-09-2005, 16:16
[ Your ideological rival in General ]
I think mine is DHomme, although as I have said a few times, if I were still a socialist I would probably be his brother in arms.
The list is long, but distinguished! :D
Fass
25-09-2005, 16:16
I have no rivals (http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=rival) here.

Rival != opposite.
Nietzsche Heretics
25-09-2005, 16:20
isn't this something like the "most unlikely NS couples" thread?
Lunatic Goofballs
25-09-2005, 16:22
To describe my rival, one would have to describe myself. ANd I defy description. :D
Kanabia
25-09-2005, 16:23
Hard to say. I can at least agree with the libertarians on here on a social level, so they aren't rivals per se.
Gymoor II The Return
25-09-2005, 16:24
I have no rivals (http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=rival) here.

Rival != opposite.

Hmmm, do you mean Rival as in peer, or Rival as in opponent? :D
Eutrusca
25-09-2005, 16:26
To describe my rival, one would have to describe myself. ANd I defy description. :D
No shit! ROFL!
Gymoor II The Return
25-09-2005, 16:29
To describe my rival, one would have to describe myself. ANd I defy description. :D

By stating that you defy description, you define yourself, which therefore describes you...

error! abort! 404 Not Found.
Lunatic Goofballs
25-09-2005, 16:33
By stating that you defy description, you define yourself, which therefore describes you...

error! abort! 404 Not Found.

Another one bites the dust. :D
Big Jim P
25-09-2005, 16:40
To describe my rival, one would have to describe myself. ANd I defy description. :D

Quantum Physics has its Uncertainty Principle to cover cases like this. Or was that Chaos theory? :D
Letila
25-09-2005, 16:43
Probably Melkor Unchained, I guess.
Lunatic Goofballs
25-09-2005, 16:52
Quantum Physics has its Uncertainty Principle to cover cases like this. Or was that Chaos theory? :D

I suppose that depends on my mood. :)
Gymoor II The Return
25-09-2005, 16:55
I suppose that depends on my mood. :)

[Glances at LG's mood ring. Notes that it's plaid. Retreats to get another cup of coffee.]
Bjornoya
25-09-2005, 16:57
I don't think God posts here.
Andaluciae
25-09-2005, 17:00
I range way too far in too many fields to have a rival. And I haven't done much posting in a while, so that also makes it tough to have a rival. Perhaps facial hair is my rival.
Blu-tac
25-09-2005, 17:02
the majority
Melkor Unchained
25-09-2005, 17:29
Probably Melkor Unchained, I guess.
Hehehe... I'd have to say I think I'd be doing something wrong had you named anyone else.

But, to answer the question, I think I have too many to count. Almost everyone here qualifies in one capacity or another.
The Soviet Americas
25-09-2005, 18:08
Whoever's being a dumbshit at the moment.
Mekonia
25-09-2005, 18:11
I'm sure there is quite a few! But no worries we're all friends here :D
Vittos Ordination
25-09-2005, 18:18
I disagree with many posters on many topics, but no one stands out as being completely polar to my ideologies.

Any theocratic socialists please stand up.
Neo-Anarchists
25-09-2005, 18:30
I disagree with many posters on many topics, but no one stands out as being completely polar to my ideologies.
Seconded.
Super-power
25-09-2005, 18:49
Any theocratic socialists please stand up.
Yupaneau? He's not theocratic, but he's authoritarian on social issues
Jordaxia
25-09-2005, 18:52
Dunno. Economically speaking, people who believe in absolutely no control over the free market. Politically speaking, those who believe in a police state. Morally speaking, those who believe in theocracy or some kind of moral overwatch.

Since the first 2 are contradictory when taken to extremes, I have few polar opposites, but several people who I vehemently disagree with.
Dakini
25-09-2005, 18:55
The only people I've really clashed with end up banned.

Usually the ones who claim that men are superior to women in every aspect (except the ability to rear children, cook and clean of course) Mutated Sea Bass is the only one whose name I can recall.

Either that or any overly theistic, anti-science people... I think Commando fell into that category... and some guy with a latin type name... I can't remember. They've been gone a while though.
The Noble Men
25-09-2005, 19:04
I'd like to say Neo Rogolia, but we clash rarely and only on theological matters.
Neo Kervoskia
25-09-2005, 19:05
I'd like to say Neo Rogolia, but we clash rarely and only on theological matters.
Speaking of which, she hasn't posted here lately.
The Noble Men
25-09-2005, 19:11
Speaking of which, she hasn't posted here lately.

I know. Quite sad really.
Lord-General Drache
25-09-2005, 19:11
Speaking of which, she hasn't posted here lately.

I'm sure you jinxed it.

She's my ideological antithesis.
Kroisistan
25-09-2005, 19:17
Hmmm... my ideological rival would have to be someone who was a social Fascist and an economic Libertarian. Honestly never seen one of those, but then again, someone has to be posting on Stormfront... :D
Maineiacs
25-09-2005, 19:27
I'm not sure I have one, since not enough people take me seriously. Probably if I had any it would be Mesacatela on political/economic issues and Neo Rogolia on social/moral issues. (I miss her, too :rolleyes: )
Vittos Ordination
25-09-2005, 19:32
Yupaneau? He's not theocratic, but he's authoritarian on social issues

His name crossed my mind, but I didn't mention him because I wasn't sure.
Vittos Ordination
25-09-2005, 19:33
Hmmm... my ideological rival would have to be someone who was a social Fascist and an economic Libertarian. Honestly never seen one of those, but then again, someone has to be posting on Stormfront... :D

NS libertarians are consistent, freedom for everyone, all the time.
New Burmesia
25-09-2005, 20:19
It would be have to be one of my best mates, Joseph, the Talking Bear.

(Bear being his second name...pwnd!)
Keruvalia
25-09-2005, 21:44
Sexual Harassment Panda.

Otherwise, I don't know. Some of the puppets, of course, like Jesussaves. Neo Rog and VoteEarly ... but I'm not entirely sure they were serious either.

I've exchanged words a few times here and there with the board's conservatives, but nothing to stay angry over or consider them a "rival".

*shrug*
Serapindal
25-09-2005, 22:01
Hmmm... my ideological rival would have to be someone who was a social Fascist and an economic Libertarian.

HI IDEALOGICAL RIVAL!
Czardas
25-09-2005, 22:05
Melkor and/or Neo R.
Neo Kervoskia
25-09-2005, 22:06
Melkor and/or Neo R.
Will you be my rival? I think I need two. :)
Ardalia
25-09-2005, 22:07
I'd say Communists. Yes, the system is an idea born of good-will. But it will never work! Humans are greedy, end of.
Neo Kervoskia
25-09-2005, 22:10
I'd say Communists. Yes, the system is an idea born of good-will. But it will never work! Humans are greedy, end of.
Be more specific half the people here are communist or of a similar pursuasion.
Czardas
25-09-2005, 22:11
Will you be my rival? I think I need two. :)
Maybe. What are your views?
Neo Kervoskia
25-09-2005, 22:12
Maybe. What are your views?
Social and economic libertarian.
Fass
25-09-2005, 22:13
I know. Quite sad really.

Don't mention her, lest you invoke her presence! :headbang:
Neo Kervoskia
25-09-2005, 22:14
Don't mention her, lest you invoke her presence! :headbang:
She's behind you!
Fass
25-09-2005, 22:16
She's behind you!

6 ft under with me dancing above would have been a much more pleasant mental picture.
Czardas
25-09-2005, 22:18
Social and economic libertarian.
Sorry, I'm social libertarian too, and economic moderate. We agree on most things. :(
Neo Kervoskia
25-09-2005, 22:20
Sorry, I'm social libertarian too, and economic moderate. We agree on most things. :(
Damn, I was looking forward to spirited debate, then again I haven't debated in General since...
Czardas
25-09-2005, 22:22
Damn, I was looking forward to spirited debate, then again I haven't debated in General since...
...Maxtopia III.

Yeah, I know. I haven't seriously debated since yesterday.
Neo Kervoskia
25-09-2005, 22:24
...Maxtopia III.

Yeah, I know. I haven't seriously debated since yesterday.
I've debated some since then (not necessarily with this nation), I just can't remember when. I think was a month ago.
Serapindal
25-09-2005, 22:29
I get a one-up over all the peace people.

Stance:

African Culture is inferior to American Culture, and thus, America must civilize them, by annexing Africa.

Both Israel and Palestine must be conquered, because they both demean the 1st admendment, by being theological states.

Hollywood is filled with reds.

Better dead than red.

I'd vote for Fidel Castro or any dictator other Hillary Clinton.(As long as they didn't touch my GTA.)

Hillary Clinton is a Communist.

I give Bill Clinton Thumbs Up for Cheating on Hillary, but Thumbs Down for not invading every place.

Invade France to.
Ardalia
25-09-2005, 22:31
Be more specific half the people here are communist or of a similar pursuasion.

Well... the way i look at it is. if you always earn the same amount of money, no matter what job you do, wont you opt for the easiest job possible? You wouldnt go to university - no need to... Running up a debt for no reason is silly.

Rocket scientists and neurosurgeons being paid the same as manual labourers? It'd never work. I admit that footballers and similar types are paid a bit much though...

I'd say i'm socially liberal and economically centre-right.
Kroisistan
25-09-2005, 22:33
HI IDEALOGICAL RIVAL!

*dons armor, draws sword...*

:shiftyeyes:

Hello my fine feathered foe.
Kroisistan
25-09-2005, 22:34
NS libertarians are consistent, freedom for everyone, all the time.

...

Well I guess there's something to be said for consistency. :)
Haloman
25-09-2005, 22:43
I'm sure you jinxed it.

She's my ideological antithesis.

I'll be sure to tell her. :D

Umm, I have quite a few. Too many to name.
Quarferas
25-09-2005, 23:05
Riight..... Whoever explained Communism as being same-wage pay is either stoned, or simplifyin' it to explain it. Or lied to you to smear it.

I'd like to believe that, but that shit ain't the truth :P
What is the TRUTH, however, is that wages are abolished what-so-ever.
And with that, of course, the need for it. It's all beurocracy and economical limits! But we move beyond that. It's not about classes..but money-hierarchy.

And for the one who said we shouldn't strive for an egalitarian society,
because people are naturally greedy (Huh!? And from where came that!? Your statistics are rather dubious, I'd say, how to prove that anyways.) We shouldn't make a society where it ain't benefiting to be greedy? And sharing is always rewarded.

So.... Sure, it's totally what everyone says, do not be critical ;)
And it's definately NOT about a police state. Wipe that shit away....As
for the question.... My ideological enemy is not in here. But he's the president of U.S. I've never really liked him, as he's both religious and...shiver...Cappie,
but "If you're not with us, you're against us" -- That made me put him #1 on the dead-lock list. Mufrasa!
Pure Metal
25-09-2005, 23:12
Alien Born used to be almost an exact ideological rival (and highly respected by me), with that Texassomething bloke a close second, but they've both left now :confused:
hahahaa i scared em off :D
Vittos Ordination
25-09-2005, 23:15
Alien Born used to be almost an exact ideological rival (and highly respected by me), with that Texassomething bloke a close second, but they've both left now :confused:
hahahaa i scared em off :D

I agreed with AB on almost everything, so can I be your rival now?
Pure Metal
25-09-2005, 23:25
I agreed with AB on almost everything, so can I be your rival now?
indeed :D
*glares at rival*

*stokes beard menacingly*



tho i haven't debated that much with you, as far as i can recall, so don't feel offended i left you off my list ;)
The Cat-Tribe
26-09-2005, 02:25
I get a one-up over all the peace people.

Stance:

African Culture is inferior to American Culture, and thus, America must civilize them, by annexing Africa.

Both Israel and Palestine must be conquered, because they both demean the 1st admendment, by being theological states.

Hollywood is filled with reds.

Better dead than red.

I'd vote for Fidel Castro or any dictator other Hillary Clinton.(As long as they didn't touch my GTA.)

Hillary Clinton is a Communist.

I give Bill Clinton Thumbs Up for Cheating on Hillary, but Thumbs Down for not invading every place.

Invade France to.


Trolling makes one a rival of Moderators. Good luck with that.
NERVUN
26-09-2005, 03:29
No one's managed to annoy me enough to become a rival. Though I've had fun arguing with just about everyone. ;)
DHomme
29-09-2005, 00:38
^see above.
I think mine is DHomme, although as I have said a few times, if I were still a socialist I would probably be his brother in arms.

*hugs*
Messerach
29-09-2005, 01:07
The good thing is that no matter how much I disagree with someone there's almost always another issue where I basically agree with them. Unless, I suppose, they are a creationist theocratic nazi free marketeer who doesn't like coffee.
Avarhierrim
29-09-2005, 01:17
I think Etrusca or someone conservative would be my rival
Undal
29-09-2005, 01:29
I honestly haven't been here long enough, I don't remember anyone's name. I think I've made people hate me , but that doesn't really count. :D
Valgrak Marsh
29-09-2005, 17:32
The English language...
Swimmingpool
29-09-2005, 18:11
Hard to say. I can at least agree with the libertarians on here on a social level, so they aren't rivals per se.
Although I am socially liberal, I consider libertarians to be more my rivals than conservatives. That's because Libertarians argue from a totally different philosophical base. Both we leftists and the conservatives agree that society is real and sometimes the greater good necessitates giving up some liberties.

That said, my arch-rival is Melkor Unchained.
Legless Pirates
29-09-2005, 18:14
Whoo. No rivals for me. I luuuurve all of you :fluffle:
Swimmingpool
29-09-2005, 18:20
But, to answer the question, I think I have too many to count. Almost everyone here qualifies in one capacity or another.
It's got to be me!!!

I am not only a Euro-socialist scum, but I also am one of those fascist bastards who support the Iraq War.

On the other hand, I am a Tolkien and marijuana (often at the same time) lover, like you.

NS libertarians are consistent, freedom for everyone, all the time.
Man, I wish I also lived outside reality!
Delator
29-09-2005, 18:34
Alien Born used to be almost an exact ideological rival (and highly respected by me), with that Texassomething bloke a close second, but they've both left now :confused:
hahahaa i scared em off :D

You mean you scared off Texapunditstan???

YOU are now my new rival! :p

Actually, I think I have a recently arrived rival. His/Her name is Belator (note the similarity to my own name)

We actually got along fairly well in a brief political/economic discussion, but I can tell we shall clash mightily on social/moral issues, particularly pertaining to religion.

Meh...it's all fun anyways. :)
Melkor Unchained
29-09-2005, 19:01
It's got to be me!!!

I am not only a Euro-socialist scum, but I also am one of those fascist bastards who support the Iraq War.

On the other hand, I am a Tolkien and marijuana (often at the same time) lover, like you.
You're up there, yeah. So's Deleuze, but I haven't seen him around in a while and I think I actually like him more than I hate him. He's far and away the most competent adversary I've ever faced on these boards. Potaria is also probably worth mentioning, but we haven't encountered each other as often as one might think.

That said, we could in all probability get along fairly well in real life. Despite the fact that it looks like I'm about to have an aneurysm just about every time I post here, I'm fairly laid back in person, and I can generally get along with people regardless of their ideology. I just kick it up a notch or five here because I like to get heated from time to time. It's fun. :D
Nietzsche Heretics
29-09-2005, 19:27
I'm about to have an aneurysm
you've said this a couple of times already and if it be just for that (as i don't know too much about you) you're on my i-lie-you list. had to look it up first, but turned into a fave very soon :)

sorry i can't really name a rival 'cause i'm not on here long enough but any moral conservative,economical libertarian would prbably do. anybody want to apply? we could discuss details then :D i want a rival too!
p.s. and if i could choose..i'd like a rival along the lines of eutrusca, that is to say someone whom i can heartily disagree with and still respect gretaly for his fairness and debating skills and openness to other ideas. oh man, i guess i just immensly limited the number of potential applicants. oh well.
Free Soviets
29-09-2005, 19:28
hmm, a tough one. libertarians are politically irrelevant and hold inconsistent beliefs. conservatives and fascists are clinically insane. i guess that leaves social democrats.

i choose the cat-tribe to be my ideological rival. bring it on, beyotch.
Carnivorous Lickers
29-09-2005, 19:34
I dont fit neatly into any given category or cross section, so I dont know of any ideological rivals at this time.
The Lone Alliance
29-09-2005, 19:38
Eutrusca
Kanabia
29-09-2005, 19:42
Although I am socially liberal, I consider libertarians to be more my rivals than conservatives. That's because Libertarians argue from a totally different philosophical base. Both we leftists and the conservatives agree that society is real and sometimes the greater good necessitates giving up some liberties.

That said, my arch-rival is Melkor Unchained.

That's one reason why I have a lot less emnity for "Libertarians", actually. I simply can't find common ground with Conservatives - I find their viewpoint of the "greater good" rather offputting...to put it mildly. What are even worse are the underlying motivations and power structures behind such beliefs. Those in a position of power can appeal to a commonly defined morality, and utilise it to keep such power, or extend it, regardless of the danger in doing so. Look at what the Religious Right is doing to the USA.

Whereas while I disagree with Libertarians, and think that their economic policies will cause many problems- they're simply a lot less threatening. They lack the power structure to appeal to the masses...they're barely a secondary threat. I think if a Libertarian party ever came to power somewhere (Unlikely, because they chiefly appeal to a quite small minority - over here, our Libertarian party doesn't even bother sitting for elections), they'd find their views nigh on impossible to put into practice.

(Sorry if i'm not very clear. I'm a little overtired :p)
Jello Biafra
30-09-2005, 15:21
I'd have to say the economic libertarians/right-wing anarchists, simply because I haven't really debated with either fascists or authoritarian communists on here, at least not in a long time. Occasionally there is a moderate...hmmm...maybe I should pick a moderate.
Laerod
30-09-2005, 15:28
On just about everything but gay rights: Mesatecala.
Balipo
30-09-2005, 15:34
I think mine is Smunkeewille. Although we do get along, our ideology is completely different.
Haloman
30-09-2005, 15:37
On just about everything but gay rights: Mesatecala.

LOL.

Mesatecala is back-asswards, just to let you know.
Non Aligned States
30-09-2005, 15:39
Another one bites the dust. :D

I shall attempt to describe you then. You appear to be in short, a Lunatic Golfballs who enjoys making a spectacle of himself, and in the process, often injuring yourself. Such as the human hotdog with mustard sauce :p
Laerod
30-09-2005, 15:42
LOL.

Mesatecala is back-asswards, just to let you know.I know Mesa is gay. That's probably the only reason why we agree on gay rights...
Laerod
30-09-2005, 15:43
I shall attempt to describe you then. You appear to be in short, a Lunatic Golfballs who enjoys making a spectacle of himself, and in the process, often injuring yourself. Such as the human hotdog with mustard sauce :pThat one was a classic... :D
Syniks
30-09-2005, 16:07
Depends on the topic I suppose, but probably for sheer over-emotionalisim, profanity and lack of argumentation skills it would probably be Lyric.

Otherwise,

(A) anybody who has a fundamental belief in the goodness of mankind
(B) anybody who has a fundamental belief in the goodness of government
Jordaxia
30-09-2005, 20:04
Depends on the topic I suppose, but probably for sheer over-emotionalisim, profanity and lack of argumentation skills it would probably be Lyric.

Otherwise,

(A) anybody who has a fundamental belief in the goodness of mankind
(B) anybody who has a fundamental belief in the goodness of government


But not (C) anyone who has a fundamental belief in the evil of mankind
or (D) Anybody who has a fundamental belief in the evil of government?

Fundamental good and evil are both equally laughable in human society...
Syniks
30-09-2005, 21:46
But not (C) anyone who has a fundamental belief in the evil of mankind
or (D) Anybody who has a fundamental belief in the evil of government?

Fundamental good and evil are both equally laughable in human society...
Never been dissapointed yet on either of those two assumptions. I will admit that there are statistical outliers, but I have yet to encounter many in people or one in government.
Vittos Ordination
30-09-2005, 22:24
Man, I wish I also lived outside reality!

You would have to to see society as something more than the individuals that comprise it.