The Macabees
23-09-2005, 19:45
I hate to admit it but a lot of us Americans on the boards are just digging their graves by continously ignoring the arguments of others and pounding the 'fact' that the United States should be in Iraq, and that the terrorism that hit Spain and the United Kingdom were not born with the invasion. Furthermore, I think that the United Kingdom should also take a lot of the blame for today's Middle East, as should France and Israel. Of course, you must put blame on the Islamic extremist who took control of the situation and set up these theocracies, but what I'm reffering to isn't the product [these theocracies], it's what set up the area to allow such a product.
I guess first we should start with the British. You must admit that the problem's birthplace lies within the British colonies in the area after the dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire. The British colonization of much of the Middle East and the subsequent sucking of all possible resources while oppressing the common wasn't exactly the best policy to follow if you wanted that the area would be friendly post-occupation. Considering this, the British basically invited the rise of Islamic extremism. I mean, who else would protect the Muslims from the white devil who had spent the last decades getting every possible thing they could out of the area, and then leaving without so much as a hint of aid to get those nations back on their feet.
With that said, the Americans have much of the blame as well. Indeed, face it guys, the Americans have much to blame on South and Central American poverty, as well as the rise of terrorism and extremist governments in the Middle East. Indeed, Pinochet, Noriega, etc, were all installed by the the United States. Ironically, those two names mentioned were also dethroned by the CIA - just more evidence that the US foreign policy hasn't exactly been perfect. Of course, there's the argument that the United States armed the muhajadeed during the Soviet-Afghan War, and of course, the stipulation is correct. However, one must also see that the United States was between a rock and a hardplace, and frankly, I think the administration rather have an Arab with a Stinger, than a Soviet with Afghanistan. However, nonetheless, sure, the United States funded what is today's terrorism, and yes, the terrorist bit the hand that fid them. Americans need to learn to accept that.
Israel is a touchy factor, simply because there's a lot of protectionist that always think Israel is the victim of anti-semitism and the such, but it's true, Israel has had fault. But, then again, were not the last six wars either directly started or instigated by the Arabs? Nonetheless, the 1956 Israeli, French and British plot to reopen the Suez Canal wasn't exactly the most favourable for a friendly Middle East, especially when the Middle East had the Soviet Union to scurry too.
Nonetheless, this isn't much about politics as much as it is about the fact that we all need to grow up and learn how to take the blame. The situation that developed in the Middle East was the fault of the entire Western World, and it is very likely that it couldn't have gone any other way. That's just how this world works.
I guess first we should start with the British. You must admit that the problem's birthplace lies within the British colonies in the area after the dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire. The British colonization of much of the Middle East and the subsequent sucking of all possible resources while oppressing the common wasn't exactly the best policy to follow if you wanted that the area would be friendly post-occupation. Considering this, the British basically invited the rise of Islamic extremism. I mean, who else would protect the Muslims from the white devil who had spent the last decades getting every possible thing they could out of the area, and then leaving without so much as a hint of aid to get those nations back on their feet.
With that said, the Americans have much of the blame as well. Indeed, face it guys, the Americans have much to blame on South and Central American poverty, as well as the rise of terrorism and extremist governments in the Middle East. Indeed, Pinochet, Noriega, etc, were all installed by the the United States. Ironically, those two names mentioned were also dethroned by the CIA - just more evidence that the US foreign policy hasn't exactly been perfect. Of course, there's the argument that the United States armed the muhajadeed during the Soviet-Afghan War, and of course, the stipulation is correct. However, one must also see that the United States was between a rock and a hardplace, and frankly, I think the administration rather have an Arab with a Stinger, than a Soviet with Afghanistan. However, nonetheless, sure, the United States funded what is today's terrorism, and yes, the terrorist bit the hand that fid them. Americans need to learn to accept that.
Israel is a touchy factor, simply because there's a lot of protectionist that always think Israel is the victim of anti-semitism and the such, but it's true, Israel has had fault. But, then again, were not the last six wars either directly started or instigated by the Arabs? Nonetheless, the 1956 Israeli, French and British plot to reopen the Suez Canal wasn't exactly the most favourable for a friendly Middle East, especially when the Middle East had the Soviet Union to scurry too.
Nonetheless, this isn't much about politics as much as it is about the fact that we all need to grow up and learn how to take the blame. The situation that developed in the Middle East was the fault of the entire Western World, and it is very likely that it couldn't have gone any other way. That's just how this world works.