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10 things that piss me off about Canada

Swilatia
22-09-2005, 08:12
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

3) They think everyone speaks french

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

9) There are too many donut shops.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 08:20
Their nation should not even be called Canada! Since the people call themselves "Canadians", not "Canadans", their nation should be called "Canadia", after all, Gemans don't call themselves "Germanians"
Revasser
22-09-2005, 08:30
Their nation should not even be called Canada! Since the people call themselves "Canadians", not "Canadans", their nation should be called "Canadia", after all, Gemans don't call themselves "Germanians"

I thought Germans called themselves Deutch, from Deutchland? Non-Germans are the ones that call them Germans, as far as I'm aware.

And Canadians can call themselves whatever the heck they want. There are no hard-as-fast rules like that for English, and certainly not for names.
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 08:32
I thought Germans called themselves Deutch, from Deutchland? Non-Germans are the ones that call them Germans, as far as I'm aware.

And Canadians can call themselves whatever the heck they want. There are no hard-as-fast rules like that for English, and certainly not for names.
Read the ten reasons in the first post, you will find those to make more sense.
Leonstein
22-09-2005, 08:33
I thought Germans called themselves Deutch, from Deutchland? Non-Germans are the ones that call them Germans, as far as I'm aware.
German comes from "Germania", which is the lands in central Europe as the Romans knew it. A rather varied group of tribes were grouped together.

Deutsch comes from "Teutsch", which is a germanic kind of word that was framed very early, and came to mean the people that have common languages. Thus "Deutsch" is a word that first and foremost comes from a linguistic background.
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 08:36
This thread is about the first ten things that piss me off about Canadia, not what Canadia should be called.
Santa Barbara
22-09-2005, 08:37
Boy, these threads just don't get old. Here's a clue, I don't care which things piss you people off about the USA/Europe/Canada/Earth/Your Mom/whatever.
Cheneille
22-09-2005, 08:46
9) There are too many donut shops.

:eek: There is no such thing!!!
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 08:47
Boy, these threads just don't get old. Here's a clue, I don't care which things piss you people off about the USA/Europe/Canada/Earth/Your Mom/whatever.
Understand this: "21 Things that piss me off about Europe" (Which I believe should be called "21 things that piss me off about great britain", because it focuses on great britain, not Europe) is a clone of "21 things that piss me off about America". This thread is not a clone of any other thread.
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 08:55
:eek: There is no such thing!!!
Yes there is.
Pretty Trinkets
22-09-2005, 09:01
Not a clone...more like a cousin, really. An ugly, possibly mentally deficient cousin. You know, the one you lock in the closet during family get-togethers, so as to protect the pie.

Perhaps you posted this to bait Canadians. You certainly couldn't have been expecting rational discussion, or even admiration for your depth of insight.

As for what Candians should call themselves...why not Americans? They do share a continent with those of who reside in the United States. And we don't bother calling ourselves United States of Americans. What kind of silly ass name do we have for our country?

And also, French is really only popular in Quebec, and I believe it is referred to as Quebecois. From what I understand, many Canadians would gladly lose that provence from their national map...and Quebec would be just as happy to be lost. But I'm not from there, so...
Santa Barbara
22-09-2005, 09:02
Understand this: "21 Things that piss me off about Europe" (Which I believe should be called "21 things that piss me off about great britain", because it focuses on great britain, not Europe) is a clone of "21 things that piss me off about America". This thread is not a clone of any other thread.

Because there's 10 and not 21? Pfft. It's a clone, just with a mutation.
Pretty Trinkets
22-09-2005, 09:07
Or maybe you posted it to get people to take it seriously, even though it is just a good-time farce! I totally fell for it, you got me!! I owe you a two liter of your favorite bevvie.
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 09:07
Because there's 10 and not 21? Pfft. It's a clone, just with a mutation.
No, because it has less simillarities to "21 things that piss me off about America" than "21 things that piss me off about Europe"
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 09:08
Not a clone...more like a cousin, really. An ugly, possibly mentally deficient cousin. You know, the one you lock in the closet during family get-togethers, so as to protect the pie.

Perhaps you posted this to bait Canadians. You certainly couldn't have been expecting rational discussion, or even admiration for your depth of insight.

As for what Candians should call themselves...why not Americans? They do share a continent with those of who reside in the United States. And we don't bother calling ourselves United States of Americans. What kind of silly ass name do we have for our country?

And also, French is really only popular in Quebec, and I believe it is referred to as Quebecois. From what I understand, many Canadians would gladly lose that provence from their national map...and Quebec would be just as happy to be lost. But I'm not from there, so...
I am not trying to bait anyone.
Kanabia
22-09-2005, 10:45
must...resist....temptation...to start..."10 things that piss me off about __ things that piss me off"...threads....gnnnngh..!!!
Pure Metal
22-09-2005, 10:48
meh :rolleyes:
i like canada. they have colin mochrie :)
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 11:25
meh :rolleyes:
i like canada. they have colin mochrie :)
I am not saying that canada sucks, I dont think that. Im just saying what things about it piss me off.
Gartref
22-09-2005, 11:28
I am not saying that canada sucks, I dont think that. Im just saying what things about it piss me off.

Thanks for clearing that up.
Pure Metal
22-09-2005, 11:31
I am not saying that canada sucks, I dont think that. Im just saying what things about it piss me off.
fine. i still like colin mochrie :)

*hijacks thread and turns it into a colin mochrie appreciation thread*

http://www.washcoll.edu/wc/news/press_releases/images/colin_mochrie_props.jpg
yay! ;)
Chainik Hocker
22-09-2005, 11:36
As for what Candians should call themselves...why not Americans? They do share a continent with those of who reside in the United States. And we don't bother calling ourselves United States of Americans. What kind of silly ass name do we have for our country?

You guys can just shut up about that right now. We called it first, fair and square, and you can't come complaining about it now.

You too, Mexico, with your nortoameicanos.
Laerod
22-09-2005, 11:36
fine. i still like colin mochrie :)

*hijacks thread and turns it into a colin mochrie appreciation thread*

http://www.washcoll.edu/wc/news/press_releases/images/colin_mochrie_props.jpg
yay! ;)I love that guy! I've never known his name but ever since seeing him on Who's Line is it Anyway... :D
Laerod
22-09-2005, 11:38
You guys can just shut up about that right now. We called it first, fair and square, and you can't come complaining about it now.

You too, Mexico, with your nortoameicanos.Actually, didn't the Colombians go for it first until we nabbed the title from them?
Pure Metal
22-09-2005, 11:48
I love that guy! I've never known his name but ever since seeing him on Who's Line is it Anyway... :D
yay another colin-lover! and you know the best bit? yup, thats right... he's canadian. ;) :D

(ps: Whose Line is the best show on earth!)
(i have every show ever aired ;) )
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 11:54
Okay, thats off-topic, this is not a Colin Monchrie thread.
Laerod
22-09-2005, 12:01
Okay, thats off-topic, this is not a Colin Monchrie thread.It's about Canada, isn't it?
Lurdock
22-09-2005, 12:03
Were those United Statesians mouthing off earlier? Sorry, United States of Americans.
Lurdock
22-09-2005, 12:04
Oh wait, United Statesans, was it?
Gartref
22-09-2005, 12:07
What's the topic, eh?
Hooivork
22-09-2005, 12:13
well you know, america pisses me off more, because there are too many people who think like you... they all think they're the best, but americans are the most dumb people in the whole western civilisation.

oh, and besides... america was the only western country that wouulndt take part with the worldwide rules of decreising CO2 production, while they produce 60 % of it allready... and they produce the most garbage per person...
Myidealstate
22-09-2005, 12:17
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9681392&postcount=105

But it is. And if we have to do threads where we talk about other nations or continents, why can't we have topics like:
"X thinks we appreciate at each other"
Evil Woody Thoughts
22-09-2005, 12:18
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!

That's funny, my hockey jersey expressly says, "Made in Canada," and the American healthcare system is t3h $ux0rz, eh?

FYI, I'm American. ;)
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 12:28
That's funny, my hockey jersey expressly says, "Made in Canada,"
But thats just a Hockey Jersey

the American healthcare system is t3h $ux0rz, eh?
Just cause a nations healthcare system sucks, does not mean that nation sucks.
Skaldics
22-09-2005, 12:33
If there should be something wrong with canada than I guess it would be because of they are much alike united states of amercans; after al canada is america. Are they alike or not ? :D
Dullop
22-09-2005, 12:36
well you know, america pisses me off more, because there are too many people who think like you... they all think they're the best, but americans are the most dumb people in the whole western civilisation.

oh, and besides... america was the only western country that wouulndt take part with the worldwide rules of decreising CO2 production, while they produce 60 % of it allready... and they produce the most garbage per person...

..... most dumb? Please, tell me you mean dumbest. And... western civilisation? Im sure what you mean was Western Civilization. :headbang: Look, the person who started this thread is simply an unintelligent little turd. Theres quite a bit I don't like about Canada (infact, 1-10 for me would be the entire french part of it) but do not be so ignorant as to fall into the broad stereotype of insulting all Americans. And for the love of God, run your stuff through a spell checker ><
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 12:36
If there should be something wrong with canada than I guess it would be because of they are much alike united states of amercans; after al canada is america. Are they alike or not ? :D
Is the fact that canadia is the 51st state not pointed out in #6?
Pure Metal
22-09-2005, 12:36
1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!
i'm gonna have to start doing that more often, eh? ;)
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 12:38
why can't we have topics like:
"X thinks we appreciate at each other"
That does not sound like something that would make a good humour thread.
Laerod
22-09-2005, 12:48
Is the fact that canadia is the 51st state not pointed out in #6?I'll take that as a compliment :D
Cahnt
22-09-2005, 12:49
I am not trying to bait anyone.
You're doing a fine impression of it, then.
Evil Woody Thoughts
22-09-2005, 12:50
But thats just a Hockey Jersey


Just cause a nations healthcare system sucks, does not mean that nation sucks.

Someone needs to find a sense of humor :D
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 12:52
Someone needs to find a sense of humor :D
Where is Fass when you need him?
Skaldics
22-09-2005, 12:54
Is the fact that canadia is the 51st state not pointed out in #6?
Yeah, but whats the problem then ? (for you united staters) They have to many trees ? :confused:
The Free Tounge
22-09-2005, 12:54
What? Stop complaining on things like Canada... Do something about your spelling, don't go to Canada and start complaining at the silly nation of the United States. Thats a place for some big as complaining.
Myidealstate
22-09-2005, 12:56
That does not sound like something that would make a good humour thread.
Most of the "1001 reasons why you should be exterminated" threads either. Just p***es people.
Swilatia
22-09-2005, 13:19
Most of the "1001 reasons why you should be exterminated" threads either. Just p***es people.
what are you talking about??
Kryozerkia
22-09-2005, 15:28
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!
It is, isn't it, eh?!

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.
Go west to British Columbia and more of the same; go outside of most of the cities in Ontario and - gasp - the same thing! Weird, ain't it? Unlike in our cities, the rest of Canada just ain't into that whole concrete thing...

3) They think everyone speaks french
No, we think everyone from Quebec speaks French and that any politician who speaks French is a friend of Chretien and therefore not to be trusted.

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse
And yet it's perfectly fine for America to badmouth Canada - Anne Coulter anyone?

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.
That's what we call "bad planning". Plus, people whop use tickets tend to use the bus and street cars more than the subway. Tokens are geared toward those who use the subway more - though, the annoying thing (and this is the really annoying thing) is that the tokens look like dimes. :p

See, you can't even get your annoyances straight!

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.
We have plenty... such as 'softwood lumber' and 'cattle' and 'potatoes', but due to strange American policies, these remain foreign objects there. Though I'm sure the oil isn't - unless you count Alberta as being its own country, since, it seems alien to the rest of Canada.

And like American exports aren't made in other countries? *coughChinacough*...

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.
We're still trying to get those babyboomers to accept that it's metric and not imperial, but we still got lengths to go...

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.
At least it isn't violent like the American one.

9) There are too many donut shops.
It's better than having too many McDonalds!

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!
Uhm... Yeah, but this is the only sport besides CFL (football) that Canda actually has professional teams in, plus it is a Canadian sport! We invented it!
Longlunch
22-09-2005, 16:13
I am disappointed, people!!!
So, none of you think all that is Bush's fault?
Canada6
22-09-2005, 16:20
3) They think everyone speaks frenchMost of Canada doesn't speak french, fluently.

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapseSo because of our business partnership with America we aren't allowed to dissagree, with American (PNAC) foreign policy?

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.I've often used the subway, and I have no idea what you are talking about.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.If you knew the retardedness of this statement, I would be laughing with you and not at you. :D Canada is a wet dream of natural resources.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.English is the only official language in the US, but everything is in spanish.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.The music to the american national anthem was originaly a british beer drinking song. Cheers! :D
And there are many national anthems much much shorter than ours. Spain, or Japan for example.

9) There are too many donut shops.There are never enough donut shops! :D

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!We are obsessed but not to the point of suicide.
Armorvia
22-09-2005, 16:25
Canada! Leading the world in being just north if the United States!
Actually, Canada is a beautiful, if overly socialist liberal country, with many beautiful people in it, at leats the last time I was in Victoria that's the way it was! Canada has stood by the US in many times of trouble, and there is a major reason why the border between us is called the "longest undefended border in the world". Our Canuck friends up north might be a little odd, but so what - who isn't odd? Thier beer ain't bad, either!! :)
Kryozerkia
22-09-2005, 16:26
I am disappointed, people!!!
So, none of you think all that is Bush's fault?
Yay! I knew it! This thread wouldn't be an NS thread without someone blaming Bush for something odd...
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 16:26
An almost complete list of reasons to despise our nothern neighbors.

http://www.negativepositive.org/fuck-canada.html
Canada6
22-09-2005, 16:38
In the end... there's really only one reason. Jealousy. We live better, we have more freedom, we have free universal health care, we have a higher standard of living, we have better governments, better health, less crime, little or no racism, and a perfect multicultural mosaical society.
Wooktop
22-09-2005, 16:40
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

3) They think everyone speaks french

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

9) There are too many donut shops.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!



1 - Accents are accents. Yanks seem to think that there are three English accents - Overly posh, Cockney, and anything else is Welsh. Get your own damn language

2 - Yes, i like forests. Nice places. I'd rather be in a forrested area than new york.

3 - And you don't think everyone speaks american English?

4 - That's not the fault of Canadian consumers. That's the corporate greed that spans the world. Importing is cheaper.

5 - Public transport is eighty percent crap and twenty percent seat. Except in the following countries, expect this: Japan, Germany, Denmark. I'd say that the Brits have about the worst public transport. We're proud of it!

6 - This is exactly the same as number 4. See above.

7 - English units? Excuse me! We haven't used the imperial system for decades. It is not English. It is used in america. If you decided to go fully metric, you'd see that everywhere else would stop, as it's for US trade most plpaces use it. The only place imperial is used in Britain is milk in pints.
Elephants also come in pints.

8 - And England's is long and odd, so we only learn the first verse anyway. God shave the Queen, she's got a beard!

9 - Donut shops. Fast Fat Food shops. Same thing, eh? Stop complaining about your country's traits!

10 - American football is the worst sport in existence. It's Rugby for sissies. You need kevlar body armour. You need water breaks about every twenty seconds. come on! Hockey is at least interesting to play and watch! Get a better sport before you complain about theirs! How about Jai-Alai? Curling? Wheelchair Basketball? Other countries play hockey. Nobody else plays american football. nobody else watches american football. No other ocuntry has more than a token team!



I'm not trying to slag america, it's a nice enough place. What i'm doing is slagging off the topic starter.

KA-TROLL!
The blessed Chris
22-09-2005, 16:41
Yay! I knew it! This thread wouldn't be an NS thread without someone blaming Bush for something odd...

Really? Do we not yet know that if a squirrel was run over in Uzbekistan, someone upon the forum would contrive to blame Bush.
Equus
22-09-2005, 16:43
It's okay, Swilatia. Your thread doesn't seem to be going in quite the direction you were looking for, but at least I thought your orginal post was amusing. Eh.

I still have a thank you to all you American and European posters who leapt to our defense, but the jokes are no big deal, honest.
Alexantis
22-09-2005, 16:50
Ten things that piss me off about American morons (This, of course, before assumptions are made, does not mean that *all* Americans are morons.)


1) They keep thinking their country should be held as a standard for the judgement of all other countries, and complain when people disagree with their opinion by calling them "Unpatriotic." Seriously, its annoying!

2) Go near north, south, east, or west, of many mid-states, and all you will see is plains. (This doesn't piss me off at all, but exposing hypocrisy is fun)

3) They think everyone should speak English. And that the English don't speak proper English.

4) They keep bashing other nations without even realising that they're generalising everybody from that nation. They keep bashing Canada without realising that many of their raw imports come from across the border, and if they didn't, Canada would collapse. (I had to change this one, replacing "did" with "didn't," since the sentence structure was all wrong. Then again, I'm probably speaking the wrong English because I'm not American.)

5) Every shithole (sorry, city) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route is home to either New York, with the biggest crime rate in the world, or Los Angeles, with the most slum neighbourhoods in the world, or any city in Texas, which has more obesity than anywhere else in the world, and you have to waste money by driving gas-guzzling cars because smaller ones make them feel scared.

6) They do not have their own goods (apart from cars – but since they seem to drool over Mercedes or BMW’s, the German – sorry, Germainian, manufacturers, or the Italian Ferraris, that nobody else on this Earth wants to drive cars bigger than they’re ever needed to be). They get many products from overseas on cheap sweatshop labour, also, the things in America that seem to come from America – well, only Americans buy them. The rest of the world doesn’t want anything to do with it.

7) In most places and all of that kind of places (sic), they seem to think that anything foreign is scary. Take, measurements, or immigrants “stealing jobs” because they can’t be bothered to work the same amount for less money. (Plus, imagine people have been using Imperial units for ages, and then suddenly the Metric System takes over. Does the world drop and change instantly?)

8) Their national constitution is ignored and abused in the interests of the self. It even states that the Stars and Stripes may not be used as clothing or on commercial products. I can really see that one being upheld as we speak.

9) There are too many morons writing lists because they learnt to have an opinion and think everybody should agree.

10) Americans are so obsessed with money. Some of them go to war because the oil supplies in the East were controlled by someone else. Seriously, there is a world out there!

So take heed of its existence. The world is not “America, and the rest.”

EDIT: Damnit, beaten to the listspoof.
Equus
22-09-2005, 17:02
Geez, Alexantis, relax! Don't harp on the Americans because of this thread. I'm almost positive that Swilatia (the thread originator) is Canadian.

Chill out and have a brew, eh?
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 17:07
This is funny.

What it REALLY boils down to is that most Americans couldn't really give a crap about what other nations' citizens think... and that pisses those people off.

We just laugh at them and think that it is funny.

And I have a question. How much do you pay in taxes for your 'free' healthcare?

Beside, how does the saying go? "Arguing on the Internet is like being in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded."
Iztatepopotla
22-09-2005, 17:15
You guys can just shut up about that right now. We called it first, fair and square, and you can't come complaining about it now.

No, I think Europe called it first. People born in the continent were known as Americans long before 1776.
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 17:19
10 - American football is the worst sport in existence. It's Rugby for sissies. You need kevlar body armour. You need water breaks about every twenty seconds. come on! Hockey is at least interesting to play and watch! Get a better sport before you complain about theirs! How about Jai-Alai? Curling? Wheelchair Basketball? Other countries play hockey. Nobody else plays american football. nobody else watches american football. No other ocuntry has more than a token team!

What about the CFL (Canadian Football League)?

...but i gotta agree with you about Hockey. I only missed 4 of my hometown team's games year before last.
Canada6
22-09-2005, 17:21
This is funny.

What it REALLY boils down to is that most Americans couldn't really give a crap about what other nations' citizens think... and that pisses those people off.

We just laugh at them and think that it is funny.If that where true one of your fellow Americans wouldn't have opened up this thread, or any other of the several "Anti-anti-american" threads that are out there.

And I have a question. How much do you pay in taxes for your 'free' healthcare?Not as much as you pay for invading other countries.
Legless Pirates
22-09-2005, 17:23
Not as much as you pay for invading other countries.
ZING! :D
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 17:25
Are you suggesting that your taxes are acceptable? Are you stating that your healtcare system is a prompt and efficent service? Just curious.

"Those who would sacrafice freedoms for security deserver neither."

As far as invading other countries, our only mistake with Iraq is that we didn't do it 12 years ago when he first started ignoring UN resolutions.
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 17:27
well you know, america pisses me off more, because there are too many people who think like you... they all think they're the best, but americans are the most dumb people in the whole western civilisation.

I know alot of people that would take offense to being called dumb. Hell I take offense to be called dumb. How would you like it if I called you ignorant for not knowing what you are talking about?

oh, and besides... america was the only western country that wouulndt take part with the worldwide rules of decreising CO2 production, while they produce 60 % of it allready... and they produce the most garbage per person...

Maybe because we realized that it would do absolutely nothing with huge costs? Gotta love the US Senate for telling Clinton NO on a bipartisan level :D
Canada6
22-09-2005, 17:28
Are you suggesting that your taxes are acceptable? Are you stating that your healtcare system is a prompt and efficent service? Just curious.According to the last elections, to recent polls and the latest Human Development Report.

Yes. Certainly much more acceptable than in the US. Certainly much more prompt and efficient than in the US.

"Those who would sacrafice freedoms for security deserver neither."The Patriot Act.
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 17:33
I am disappointed, people!!!
So, none of you think all that is Bush's fault?

Can we have one thread that doesn't mention bush?

Apparently not.

And to answer your question it is no!
Kryozerkia
22-09-2005, 17:35
An almost complete list of reasons to despise our nothern neighbors.

http://www.negativepositive.org/fuck-canada.html
And proof that Americans are petty as hell.

:rolleyes: Geez, at least find a source that follows conventional rules of grammar and spelling, as well as syntax and paragraph structure.
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 17:36
In the end... there's really only one reason. Jealousy. We live better, we have more freedom, we have free universal health care, we have a higher standard of living, we have better governments, better health, less crime, little or no racism, and a perfect multicultural mosaical society.

Then why are people crossing into the United States for Medical Treatment?

As for the others, well.....I would address them but I'd be typing all day.
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 17:37
Really? Do we not yet know that if a squirrel was run over in Uzbekistan, someone upon the forum would contrive to blame Bush.

On this board? I wouldn't be surprised if someone said that it was his fault that the squirrel was run over
Canada6
22-09-2005, 17:38
Then why are people crossing into the United States for Medical Treatment? They're not.
Why are people crossing into Canada for pharmaceutical drugs?

As for the others, well.....I would address them but I'd be typing all day.In vain.
Canada6
22-09-2005, 17:44
BTW. Americans are going to Mexico to get health care.
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 17:46
They're not.
Why are people crossing into Canada for pharmaceutical drugs?

Now your being ignorant and blind to the fact that YES Canadians are crossing the boarder seeking medical treatment inside the United States because of your so-called healthcare system.

Why? Because of the long wait for treatment.

In vain.

I can think of one right now. Guns!
Canada6
22-09-2005, 17:50
Now your being ignorant and blind to the fact that YES Canadians are crossing the boarder seeking medical treatment inside the United States because of your so-called healthcare system.

Why? Because of the long wait for treatment.
We've had Universal Health Care for over 40 years. The waiting lists are a recent devolpment. It has nothing to do with the fact that it is free.

I can think of one right now. Guns!There are proportionally more guns in Canada than in the US. And there are fewer crimes with or without guns than in the US. And the convict per capita rate in the US is among the highest on the planet.
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 17:52
We've had Universal Health Care for over 40 years. The waiting lists are a recent devolpment. It has nothing to do with the fact that it is free.

Doesn't matter. I already know that we need to reform our healthcare however both sides of the aisle are stalling eachother and that pisses me off.

There are proportionally more guns in Canada than in the US. And there are fewer crimes with or without guns than in the US. And the convict per capita rate in the US is among the highest on the planet.

And yet, our gun rates are going down while yours apparently seem to be on the rise.
Kryozerkia
22-09-2005, 17:57
And yet, our gun rates are going down while yours apparently seem to be on the rise.
And that's because of the assholes in Lawrence Heights, Jane & Finch and Rexdale (Toronto)... :rolleyes:
Avika
22-09-2005, 18:00
The world is not “America, and the rest

technicly, it is. just like how the world is "Canada and the rest" and even some guy in China and the rest. This thread is meant for humor. If you can't poke fun at yourself, you don't know what funny is. All this from a Christian(I guess it's a bad thing here.) American(also a bad thing here apparently) who's seriously underweight(underweight american? must be an oxymoron to you. I can see my ribs quite easily.) who never made a single good point in my life. Lol. If I can laugh at myself, then I can know what comedy is.
Dont Run With Scissors
22-09-2005, 18:03
you can say what you want about the french thing...and everything else, but when you look at the entire province of Alberta you have to laugh. they are some crazy rednecks. like the south here in the us.
East Canuck
22-09-2005, 18:04
The world is not “America, and the rest

technicly, it is. just like how the world is "Canada and the rest" and even some guy in China and the rest. This thread is meant for humor. If you can't poke fun at yourself, you don't know what funny is. All this from a Christian(I guess it's a bad thing here.) American(also a bad thing here apparently) who's seriously underweight(underweight american? must be an oxymoron to you. I can see my ribs quite easily.) who never made a single good point in my life. Lol. If I can laugh at myself, then I can know what comedy is.
hear, hear!

Although I find it weird that the thread is titled "20 reasons..." and yet, there are only ten enumerated with two of them being the same.
Indefatigability
22-09-2005, 18:06
Their nation should not even be called Canada! Since the people call themselves "Canadians", not "Canadans", their nation should be called "Canadia", after all, Gemans don't call themselves "Germanians"

Oh yes, I forgot how people from the United States of America called themselves "people from the united states of America" and "United State Americans" at every opportunity.
Free Beer and Chicks
22-09-2005, 18:20
Here they are:
9) There are too many donut shops.


using the words 'too many' in the same sentence with the words 'donut shop' is death-sin
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 18:22
I just can't see how someone could be happy living in a socialist society. Hell, I think that AMERICA is to socialized... I can't imagine living in Canada.

But I do have one legitimate question of Canadians. Does it make you upset that if your country were to disappear, no one would notice?
Waterkeep
22-09-2005, 18:24
Oh please.. those were the best you could come up with?

Here..
1) Celine Dion.
2) They think "Drink Canada Dry" is a directive, not a slogan.
3) They whine about gas prices, when they're the ones producing the stuff.
4) Their largest submarine fleet is in a landlocked province.. in a mall.
5) ..and it's safer than their military subs.
6) They measure short distances in inches, long distances in hours, and still call themselve metric.
7) They're proud about their humility.
8) They think Winter and Road Work are the only two seasons of the year.
9) They think "Not American" equals "Canadian Identity"
10) They make fun of themselves so much nobody else gets the chance.
Anagonia
22-09-2005, 18:25
I wonder when the Mods will get tired of these threads. Whenever something becomes a reoccuring theme of bashing (sometimes joking around), the mods usually intervene. Am I one to summon them? No. I'm just saying from what I noticed through-out my time here.

::shrugs:: Then again, I could be wrong.
Warrigal
22-09-2005, 18:31
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!
Take off, eh! We do not, you hoser! :D

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.
Better than all you see being strip malls...

3) They think everyone speaks french
We do? The majority of Canadians can't even speak French.

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse
We can't help it if we're better than the Americans, and they keep forgetting it and need reminding. I mean, really... ;)

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.
You might want to try using the entrance to that station that takes tickets, instead of the tokens-only entrance. :)

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.
And everything in America comes from Mexico, China, or Taiwan. So? :)

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.
Funny, the US is exactly the same way! Weird, isn't it.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.
Naw, it's not too short. We're just practical.

9) There are too many donut shops.
Not now that we've chased Krispy Kreme out of the country, there aren't!

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!
Too bad all of the hockey fans didn't off themselves. Yes, a Canadian who doesn't like hockey. Scary, huh? :D
Myidealstate
22-09-2005, 18:38
what are you talking about??
About this:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=445263
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=445364
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=445591&page=1&pp=15
And some threads I can't find anymore and which are hopefully deleted.
Maybe one thread is funny, but after having read the 5th thread like this in two days it just sucks. These threads are only means to show that one group of persons is better than an other. :mad: It's nothing but promoting hate.
East Canuck
22-09-2005, 18:43
I just can't see how someone could be happy living in a socialist society. Hell, I think that AMERICA is to socialized... I can't imagine living in Canada.

But I do have one legitimate question of Canadians. Does it make you upset that if your country were to disappear, no one would notice?
Hell, I prefer that no one notices then having a worldwide celebration when your nation falls and disappear.

So when are you going to stop with the flamebaiting?
Sierra BTHP
22-09-2005, 18:44
Hell, I prefer that no one notices then having a worldwide celebration when your nation falls and disapears.

So when are you goig to stop with the flamebaiting?

He'll probably stop flamebaiting when you stop flaming back.
Equus
22-09-2005, 18:47
Then why are people crossing into the United States for Medical Treatment?

As for the others, well.....I would address them but I'd be typing all day.

<sigh> Because unfortunately sometimes you have to wait for treatment.

Why are Americans flying to India for Medical Treatment?

Why are Americans flocking to Canada for prescription meds?

These things work both ways.
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 18:49
Hell, I prefer that no one notices then having a worldwide celebration when your nation falls and disapears.

So when are you goig to stop with the flamebaiting?

What?

I stand corrected. No one will notice when our nation 'disapears'... and I am 'goig' to stop now.

That post surely came from the country that gave us the intellectual powerhouse known as Pamela Anderson.

And I also marvel at the way that one person put the word 'hate' in a negative context. Hate can drive people to do wonderful things. I hated that I wasn't rich, so I made a lot of money. I hated a relationship that I was in, so I got out.

Of course, hate can drive people to do terrible things also, but only those that cannot control themselves.
Stephistan
22-09-2005, 18:52
I have one thing to say to the person who started this thread...


http://www.stephaniesworld.com/Canadarocks.gif


That is all. :)
Oxwana
22-09-2005, 18:53
Understand this: "21 Things that piss me off about Europe" (Which I believe should be called "21 things that piss me off about great britain", because it focuses on great britain, not Europe) is a clone of "21 things that piss me off about America". This thread is not a clone of any other thread.This thread should be called "10 things that piss me off about the Francophones, the rare Canadian cities with subway systems, and the North".
And yes, it is a clone. It's like if you clone a sheep and it ends up with two heads. It's still the clone of a sheep, just a bad one.
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 19:00
<sigh> Because unfortunately sometimes you have to wait for treatment.

Why are Americans flying to India for Medical Treatment?

Why are Americans flocking to Canada for prescription meds?

These things work both ways.

Yes they do and when the Politicians stop bickering and actually do something about it, it'll continue.
Sierra BTHP
22-09-2005, 19:03
Blackflies piss me off. I've been to most of the states in the US, and never, ever was I bitten as much by blackflies as I was in Ontario. The air seems to be made of them there.
Stephistan
22-09-2005, 19:06
And yet, our gun rates are going down while yours apparently seem to be on the rise.

And yet our crime rate is so much lower than that of the USA, just goes to show that...

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/Canadarocks.gif

Face it Corneliu, you WISH you were Canadian.. :D
Siloi
22-09-2005, 19:12
What I hate about Canada:
1. It has all of the same damn problems as the rest of the world: Stupid politicians, unethical corporations, stupid people, horrible diets, etc. (hundred page list)

We're not better or worst than other countries, just messed up differently.


I'm a proud canuck whose against all nationalism including my own.
Sierra BTHP
22-09-2005, 19:14
And yet our crime rate is so much lower than that of the USA, just goes to show that...

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/Canadarocks.gif

Face it Corneliu, you WISH you were Canadian.. :D

Dunno. If we separate the US into its red and blue components by county, we see rural and suburban areas that have Part I violent felony rates comparable to Canada. It's those heavily blue central urban areas that are the fountain of violence in the US - places that have far more police, far more government, and far more gun laws.

Strange that the police, government, and gun laws aren't working, in those blue urban areas, eh?
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 19:31
And yet our crime rate is so much lower than that of the USA, just goes to show that...

Face it Corneliu, you WISH you were Canadian.. :D

Yea right. Sorry but I believe in law and order and your PM has violated Canadian Law and yet your still going to vote him in.

I'm sorry but I love America and I will stay in America and I will defend America.

And in case you haven't noticed, most of our crime has been falling over the last several years.
Sinuhue
22-09-2005, 19:34
And in case you haven't noticed, most of our crime has been falling over the last several years.
Maybe one day it will be as safe to live in the US as it is in Canada then?
Kiwi-kiwi
22-09-2005, 19:57
Blackflies piss me off. I've been to most of the states in the US, and never, ever was I bitten as much by blackflies as I was in Ontario. The air seems to be made of them there.

I have to give you that one, the freakish amount of biting insects is a very good reason not to like Canada.
Stephistan
22-09-2005, 20:02
Yea right. Sorry but I believe in law and order and your PM has violated Canadian Law and yet your still going to vote him in.

1) Our PM was not part of the sponsorship scandal and fired everyone basically involved when he took over as leader of the party, so not sure what you're talking about.

2) How can you sit there with a straight face and tell Canadians that our PM broke the law and we re-elected him after you all re-elected Bush.. Now THAT is funny!
BerkylvaniaYetAgain
22-09-2005, 20:08
Number one thing about Canada that pisses me off is they won't let me immigrate there.

/wave Stephistan

/realize that may have looked slightly stalkerish and wishes to distance himself from any sort of stalkeryness

/unless, you know, you're into that
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 20:09
Which laws did Bush break? Clinton. Nixon. Franklin Roosevelt. Those guys were MAJOR scoundrels... definate criminals... but Bush?
BerkylvaniaYetAgain
22-09-2005, 20:11
Which laws did Bush break? Clinton. Nixon. Franklin Roosevelt. Those guys were MAJOR scoundrels... definate criminals... but Bush?

Do you mean before or after the DUI?
New Fuglies
22-09-2005, 20:13
Which laws did Bush break? Clinton. Nixon. Franklin Roosevelt. Those guys were MAJOR scoundrels... definate criminals... but Bush?
http://www.drunkdrivingdefense.com/consequences/bushdui1.gif
Stephistan
22-09-2005, 20:16
Do you mean before or after the DUI?

Oh, ZING!

:fluffle:
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 20:18
Are you seriously comparing a DUI to the major felonies that were commited by previous presidents?

So the guy got a DUI. So what? That really doesn't affect a nation like the others.
Stephistan
22-09-2005, 20:25
Are you seriously comparing a DUI to the major felonies that were commited by previous presidents?

So the guy got a DUI. So what... that really doesn't affect a nation like the others.

Ok, how about breaking many international laws to which the USA are signatory members of... and you know that the Constitution does cover that.. so he's broken the very oath he took, which was to defend the Constitution.
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 20:29
OK... international laws.

What are some examples with proof? (That really isn't a goading question. I just don't know of any that he broke.)
Sierra BTHP
22-09-2005, 20:31
Ok, how about breaking many international laws to which the USA are signatory members of... and you know that the Constitution does cover that.. so he's broken the very oath he took, which was to defend the Constitution.

I think you're coming up short on the treaty obligations of the US government under US law.

If he had violated an international treaty in such a way as to violate US law, he would already have been impeached.

As it is, the "breaking" is a smokescreen waved about by people who have no power to stop the US from doing whatever it likes.

We could easily make a laundry list of international law violations committed by other nations at the same time. The "violations" and their "accusations" hold about as much weight.

The decrepit, false, and corrupt buffoonery that passes for the United Nations is a classic example of the group "violation" at all levels and in most nations.
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 20:35
Amen to the UN comment. That group of mampy-pamby peacenicks should be disbanded immediately. I still wonder how we could have remained part of that organization for so long.

They are a non-factor.
Stephistan
22-09-2005, 20:37
OK... international laws.

What are some examples with proof? (That really isn't a goading question. I just don't know of any that he broke.)

Preemptively attacking a sovereign nation is against the UN charter and he broke that to name just one.. and yes, as much as Americans like to bitch about the UN, the US is STILL a signatory member. In fact it was their idea after WWII. Say what you like about the UN, but until you leave and renounce it, it's a treaty you are bound by. Suck it up!
Burnviktm
22-09-2005, 20:43
Preemtively attacking a soverign nation? Are you referring to Iraq? Iraq was a country that violated the sanctions that your precious little UN imposed upon them for many years.

The US did the UN a favor by moving first... the UN would have met about it for another several years and still sat on their hands. Dreaming that the government of Iraq was going to comply... To even HINT that invading Iraq was a violation of our constitution is a joke.

I suppose that you feel the same way about Clinton sending missiles into Afghanistan? Or Somolia?

Our only mistake with Iraq was waiting so long to invade.
Waterkeep
22-09-2005, 20:48
I think you're coming up short on the treaty obligations of the US government under US law.

Actually, it's the US government that is coming up short on their treaty obligations. You've heard of NAFTA?
Sierra BTHP
22-09-2005, 20:48
Preemptively attacking a sovereign nation is against the UN charter and he broke that to name just one.. and yes, as much as Americans like to bitch about the UN, the US is STILL a signatory member. In fact it was their idea after WWII. Say what you like about the UN, but until you leave and renounce it, it's a treaty you are bound by. Suck it up!

You need to read up on US Constitutional law. His actions were approved by Congress, which makes them legal under US law, and makes them legal under international law.

This was explained by an expert on international law on a talk show on NPR.

The US can, by Congressional authorization, step around any treaty. They are the gatekeepers, not the President.

He asked for permission, and they gave it.
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 23:30
Maybe one day it will be as safe to live in the US as it is in Canada then?

The area I'm in is a safe place to live. I wouldn't want to live in a city, that is where most of our crime is centered and it is a known fact that the cities vote primarily democrat.

The Suburbs are doing just fine and they vote Republican. I guess Republicans are tougher on crime than democrats. Go figure :rolleyes:
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 23:31
2) How can you sit there with a straight face and tell Canadians that our PM broke the law and we re-elected him after you all re-elected Bush.. Now THAT is funny!

Tell me what law Bush broke while in office?
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 23:34
Ok, how about breaking many international laws to which the USA are signatory members of... and you know that the Constitution does cover that.. so he's broken the very oath he took, which was to defend the Constitution.

Question:

How many of those were actually approved by the US Senate? You know how our ratification process works.

Just because we signed it doesn't mean it enters into force in our country. It has to go through Committees first then go to a full vote of the US Senate and that requires 2/3rds to vote yes.

Once it passes the Senate and only when the President fixes his signature to it, does it enter into force.
Corneliu
22-09-2005, 23:36
Preemptively attacking a sovereign nation is against the UN charter and he broke that to name just one.. and yes, as much as Americans like to bitch about the UN, the US is STILL a signatory member. In fact it was their idea after WWII. Say what you like about the UN, but until you leave and renounce it, it's a treaty you are bound by. Suck it up!

How about the said nation that was attacked who violated a UN Cease-fire. Under Internation law, once a cease-fire is broken, war picks up where it left off.

Hussein violated the UN Cease-fire so we went in and took him out.

All perfectly legal under International Law.
New Stalinberg
23-09-2005, 00:10
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

3) They think everyone speaks french

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

9) There are too many donut shops.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!

The hell? Let's go over this
1. "They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!"
Pretty much every place in the world has an accent, get over it.

2. G"o north of montreal, and all you will see is forests."
??

3. "They think everyone speaks french"
That's just Quabec you moron.

4. "They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse"
That's BS and you know it.

5. "The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets."
I'm sure it makes sense if you've lived there long enough.

6."They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations."
So? Tons of countries rely on exports.

7. "In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there."
All countries excluding the USA use the metric system.

8."Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem."
Why judge a country by its national anthem?

9."There are too many donut shops"
What's wrong with that?

10. "Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!"
Hockey's great! So is baseball! What do you watch? Basketball and football which both suck? All the athletes are overpaid and treat women like trash, murder people, and then get out of it just because they're NFL players? Get a grip on reality you loser.
Jenrak
23-09-2005, 00:36
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

3) They think everyone speaks french

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

9) There are too many donut shops.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!

Hmm...There are some things you need to clear up.

1) Not really. I am talking right now, and I am not ending it at all. So, will that be contradictory?

2) Yes, so I guess The Appalaichans are forests, Newfoundland and NorthWest Territories, Nunavut and Cape Cod are all forests.

3) Lie. Ask any Canadian and you'll see. Quebec is the only province that is pushing towards a compulsory French Fluency.

4) As well as America would be crushed. Canada's lumber and paper is where America get's most of it, next to Thailand and Brazil, as well as our space technology, and our laser research.

5) What routes are you taking?

6) Things that come from Canada: Lumber, Uranium, Silver, Gold, HydroElectricity (Spanning even into America), Barley, Oil and Wheat just to name a few.

7) I really don't care. The government doesn't care. Nobody does. Please get a better arguing point.

8) Not really. That way we don't have to stand as much during National Anthems. Nor is it as annoying.

9) What, you have something against Donuts?

10) Yes, you're pinpointing it on Hockey, our only sport. Let's say we ban Football. I'm sure that the results would be similiar, if not worse than ours.
Equus
23-09-2005, 00:57
The area I'm in is a safe place to live. I wouldn't want to live in a city, that is where most of our crime is centered and it is a known fact that the cities vote primarily democrat.

What are you saying here? Are you saying that criminals make up the majority population of large American cities? That urban dwellers vote Democrat because they live in crime-ridden areas?

I'm not real clear as to your point. And I doubt that my interpretations are what you really meant.

Thanks
Evil Woody Thoughts
23-09-2005, 01:00
8) Their national constitution is ignored and abused in the interests of the self. It even states that the Stars and Stripes may not be used as clothing or on commercial products. I can really see that one being upheld as we speak.


Regarding our Constitution being ignored, we have to worry more about the Bill of Rights more than anything else in this age of "OMG terra t3rra t3rra!!1!!"

I don't recall anything in the Constitution about flag etiquette. Congress regulates flag etiquette in the United States Flag Code (http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html). You'll probably be able to find the exact text for free by googling it if you're really interested in it...

You're right in that the flag is, unfortunately, üb3rcommercialized... :(
Klacktoveetasteen
23-09-2005, 02:52
How about the said nation that was attacked who violated a UN Cease-fire. Under Internation law, once a cease-fire is broken, war picks up where it left off.

Hussein violated the UN Cease-fire so we went in and took him out.

All perfectly legal under International Law.

Wrong. Since this is a UN-mandated cease-fire, it up to the UN to dermine the consequences of violations of the cease-fire, if any. The US refused to abide by the terms of cease-fire, and unilateraly decided to attack even though the UN never gave the US permission to do so.

Let me make this clear: Iraq was a UN problem under a UN mandate. The UN could sit on their hands for the next thousand years, but none of that gives authority to the US to make war on Iraq. The US has fallen back on 'might makes right', and are sucking up the consequences of that action, by thousands of casualties and billions of dollars spent. I bet Osama is laughing his ass off right now, because this is exactly what he wanted...
The Lagonia States
23-09-2005, 03:38
7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

What about how they use imperial units across their country, but get violently angry whenever an American fails to use metric?

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!

Eh, to be honest, we had our share of suicides here when Boston cheated their way by us last year. It's no different than what baseball is to New York.
The Lagonia States
23-09-2005, 03:41
I've learned tat Canadians take themselves waaaay too seriously. Everytime I insult Canada to a Canadian, they get extreamly offensive. Look, I love New York (better known as the capital of the world), but I can take a few insults.
Planners
23-09-2005, 05:18
Making fun of Canada makes you seem ignorant and that pisses people off. We do a much better making fun of ourselves. Also, we're a damn sexy nation.
Ham-o
23-09-2005, 05:25
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

3) They think everyone speaks french

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

9) There are too many donut shops.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!

1. eh is one of the greatest words ever. shut up.
2. so what. ps: montreal sucks
3. only french canadians do. my history teacher who is canadian hates french canadians. and apperently so do many canadians (judging for her stories shes told us)
4. thats true. but... you gotta love them anyway. i mean. they have possibly the coolest flag ever (i have it in my room!!!)
5. i dont care because i dont ride it and probably never will
6. you shouldnt hate them for that. you should be proud we are helping our neighbor to the north. they could probably get along ok without us if they needed to.
7.so what. who gives a crap. stuff is stuff no matter what its measured in.
8. o canada is one of the best national anthems ever. second probably only to swedens.
9. donuts own you.
10. hockey is one of the greatest sports ever. go maple leafs!!! (or is it leaves?)
Corneliu
23-09-2005, 05:46
Wrong. Since this is a UN-mandated cease-fire, it up to the UN to dermine the consequences of violations of the cease-fire, if any. The US refused to abide by the terms of cease-fire, and unilateraly decided to attack even though the UN never gave the US permission to do so.

Wrong!

Since the US is a member of the United Nations and since it is a known fact that Iraq violated UN Resolutions, it is therefor legal for the United States and allies to go into Iraq. Once a cease-fire is violated, that is all the authorization one nation needs. With a violation of a cease-fire, war picks up where it left off.

Let me make this clear: Iraq was a UN problem under a UN mandate. The UN could sit on their hands for the next thousand years, but none of that gives authority to the US to make war on Iraq.

In case you haven't noticed but the last time I checked, the United States of America did not make the UN a world government. Nor did we give up our right to declare war on another nation. Therefor, since we know they violated a cease-fire, our Congress give our president the authority to use force in Iraq.

The US has fallen back on 'might makes right', and are sucking up the consequences of that action, by thousands of casualties and billions of dollars spent. I bet Osama is laughing his ass off right now, because this is exactly what he wanted...

Actually, I'm sure he isn't. If it is precisely what he wanted then why isn't he taking full advantage of it?
Golden Wing
23-09-2005, 05:47
Note: this reply assumes that Swilatia is American.

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!
Common American stereotype. I rarely hear anyone who uses "eh" in their sentences. We ain't moogles, kupo!
2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.
Better than a thick blanket of smog. I like the forests a lot more than a collosoal urban sprawl.
3) They think everyone speaks french
Actually, you think everyone here speaks French. And we don't, only Quebec. And they don't even speak true French, they speak Quebecois.
4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse
Do you know what would happen if we cut off all exports to the U.S. Most of California and the Northeast would be without power and your oil prices would skyrocket, to say the very least.
5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.
Meh, you're right on that. But why hate an entire country because of one city?
6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.
Bwahaha, wrong! We have plenty of our own goods. Also, see the response to 4).
7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.
Because imperial is more common du eto the large number of U.S. tourists.
8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.
Yours is too long.

Also, I may remind you that it was because of us that you have your national anthem and why the President's Mansion is white. Look up "War of 1812".
9) There are too many donut shops.
No such thing.
10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!
Says the person who's country is obsessed with baseball and U.S. football. You have that, we have hockey, Australia has rugby, Europe has real football, etc. Everyone's different.

All of your points point to the fact that you are yet another arrogant American who can't accept that some people might be different. Grow up and then try again. Thank you.
The Chinese Republics
23-09-2005, 06:14
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying! I do that sometimes, better than "duh". I love it.

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.
Aww... c'mon enjoy the fresh air here, something you don't always get in the states.

3) They think everyone speaks french
That's in Quebec. Go to someplace like BC, do they speak french?

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse
No no no... we love Americans. The only thing we don't like about this country is their evil government. And don't forget, Canada supplies the US with hydro, water, oil, gas, and wood. We get SOME of the goods from the US, not ALL.

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.Ok... I'm so confused.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations. Canada supplies the US with hydro, water, oil, gas, wood, coal, and other resources that keeps ur country running. Imagine, what if I snip a powerline that runs from BC to Washington state.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.That's true, because most canadians are from different parts of the world, metric make everybody's life easier and it make so much sense. BTW, I'm used to both imperial and metric.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.O Canada!

9) There are too many donut shops.Mmmmm... Tim Hortons, I like it.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!Hey, I love Hockey. But if there is no Hockey, we can always watch CFL. ;)
Straxos
23-09-2005, 06:20
8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.


Hey man, at least they had the decency not to pick a drinking song for their national anthem. I don't care who you are, you can't make Francis Scott Key's lyrics sound like anything more than something 20 drunk American revolutionaries came up with in a bar at three in the morning.

America the Beautiful. Now THAT'S a song we could be proud to have as a national anthem. I guess you can't win 'em all though. At least we didn't wind up with the chicken as our national bird.
The Chinese Republics
23-09-2005, 06:24
America the Beautiful. Where's the forest?
Swilatia
23-09-2005, 06:40
Stop saying that I'm an American! I'm Polish!
Swilatia
23-09-2005, 06:51
Geez, Alexantis, relax! Don't harp on the Americans because of this thread. I'm almost positive that Swilatia (the thread originator) is Canadian.

Chill out and have a brew, eh?
No, I am polish!
The Chinese Republics
23-09-2005, 07:21
Stop saying that I'm an American! I'm Polish!lol, ur american to me
Swilatia
23-09-2005, 07:31
lol, ur american to me
That makes your replies to my list invalid! LOL!
East Canuck
23-09-2005, 13:15
Wrong!

Since the US is a member of the United Nations and since it is a known fact that Iraq violated UN Resolutions, it is therefor legal for the United States and allies to go into Iraq. Once a cease-fire is violated, that is all the authorization one nation needs. With a violation of a cease-fire, war picks up where it left off.
You need to brush up on your law, my man. The only thing the US could do is to report the violations to the UN security council who is the only authority to authorize military actions. Basically, only the UN security council can say whether Iraq has violated his cease-fire obligations or not.


In case you haven't noticed but the last time I checked, the United States of America did not make the UN a world government. Nor did we give up our right to declare war on another nation. Therefor, since we know they violated a cease-fire, our Congress give our president the authority to use force in Iraq.
But you did sign the UN charter. This is a legally binding treaty. According to your constitution, treaties are second only to the constitution as far as strenght goes. So a law, even if passed by congress, cannot break an treaty while you are a signatory.

And the UN charter is very clear: you cannot go invade willy-nilly and declare war whenever you feel like it.
Morvonia
23-09-2005, 13:40
6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.



funny and america buys thing from cheap labour over seas :rolleyes:
Corneliu
23-09-2005, 13:58
You need to brush up on your law, my man. The only thing the US could do is to report the violations to the UN security council who is the only authority to authorize military actions. Basically, only the UN security council can say whether Iraq has violated his cease-fire obligations or not.

Incorrect. We can take action in accordance with violations of said resolutions! Why? Because we were a party to it. We did report the violations but you have France and Russia who were looking out for their own interests that blocked it. In accordance with International Law, once a cease-fire is violated, war picks up where it left off.

Apparently it is you that needs to brush up on Internaitonal Law. And since when did the UN become a World Government? Since when did the UN have legislative Power? Newsflash: It isn't and it doesn't.

But you did sign the UN charter. This is a legally binding treaty. According to your constitution, treaties are second only to the constitution as far as strenght goes. So a law, even if passed by congress, cannot break an treaty while you are a signatory.

You would have a case if the Charter was an actual Treaty. Guess what? It isn't a treaty. And if it is binding then why was Iraq allowed to violate it? Why was Rwanda allowed to violate it? Why does the majority allowed to violate it? Since when did the UN become a World Government?

And the UN charter is very clear: you cannot go invade willy-nilly and declare war whenever you feel like it.

Wrong. Our own Constitution allows us to declare war on anyone we want. I'll go with the Constitution on this matter. The UN doesn't control my nation's military! The President of the United States does. Congress approves of Foriegn policy. They authorized force to go into Iraq. So blow it out your tailpipe because the US is a SOVERIEGN nation.
Sierra BTHP
23-09-2005, 14:17
But you did sign the UN charter. This is a legally binding treaty. According to your constitution, treaties are second only to the constitution as far as strenght goes. So a law, even if passed by congress, cannot break an treaty while you are a signatory.

Your ignorance of Constitutional law (US) is compelling. The Congress has the power to declare war (or authorize it) and the President is in command of the armed forces of the US (both facts and powers under the Constitution).

Both trump any treaty that is signed. This was explained in depth on NPR. Over and over again.

Insisting that the halfwit United Nations is somehow a supremely august body that is somehow above the corruption and nonsense that plagues this world is not a good place to stand.
UpwardThrust
23-09-2005, 14:44
Here they are:



2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.


Why the fuck would that piss you off?
The Elder Malaclypse
23-09-2005, 14:52
Here they are:
2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

And thats a great thing.
East Canuck
23-09-2005, 14:54
Incorrect. We can take action in accordance with violations of said resolutions! Why? Because we were a party to it. We did report the violations but you have France and Russia who were looking out for their own interests that blocked it. In accordance with International Law, once a cease-fire is violated, war picks up where it left off.

Apparently it is you that needs to brush up on Internaitonal Law. And since when did the UN become a World Government? Since when did the UN have legislative Power? Newsflash: It isn't and it doesn't.
Who said the UN was a world government?

Look at the resolutions. It clearly states who can and cannot decide if someone has broken the cease-fire. Guess what: the US cannot unilaterally decide if a cease-fire has been broken.



You would have a case if the Charter was an actual Treaty. Guess what? It isn't a treaty. And if it is binding then why was Iraq allowed to violate it? Why was Rwanda allowed to violate it? Why does the majority allowed to violate it? Since when did the UN become a World Government?
It is a treaty, whether you like it or not. And just because some people break their word doesn'T mean you can too without being called upon it. And it all depends on the individual constitution: Rwanda can treat treaties below their local law, for all I know. But I do know that treaties is treated as the supreme law of the land in the US so long as it doesn't violate the constitution.


wrong. Our own Constitution allows us to declare war on anyone we want. I'll go with the Constitution on this matter. The UN doesn't control my nation's military! The President of the United States does. Congress approves of Foriegn policy. They authorized force to go into Iraq. So blow it out your tailpipe because the US is a SOVERIEGN nation.
Where does it says that in the constitution?
Where does it says that you can declare war however you like in the consitution?
East Canuck
23-09-2005, 15:00
Your ignorance of Constitutional law (US) is compelling. The Congress has the power to declare war (or authorize it) and the President is in command of the armed forces of the US (both facts and powers under the Constitution).

Both trump any treaty that is signed. This was explained in depth on NPR. Over and over again.
Yes, the congress has the power to declare war. But the congress must also follow the consitution and the international treaties when it passes a resolution. In this case, they didn't.

And the president cannot go to war unless congress says so. So he may be the commander in chief but his option are limited in time of peace.

Your NPR show: I haven't heard it. If you would kindly link me to it or a transcript, so I can see for myself, that would be great.

Insisting that the halfwit United Nations is somehow a supremely august body that is somehow above the corruption and nonsense that plagues this world is not a good place to stand.
When did I say that? Just because they are the one responsible for the cease-fire agreement doesn't make them holy and pure. But they are still the ones in charge of this dossier, whether you like it or not. And as long as the US is a member of the UN, they have to abide by the charter.
Sierra BTHP
23-09-2005, 15:01
Where does it says that in the constitution?
Where does it says that you can declare war however you like in the consitution?
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11.

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

It's an enumerated Power of Congress. It's not a "local law". It's the Constitution, which supersedes ANY treaty consideration.

Please, make sure you read our Constitution in detail, before you pontificate about what it says.
East Canuck
23-09-2005, 15:07
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11.

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

It's an enumerated Power of Congress. It's not a "local law". It's the Constitution, which supersedes ANY treaty consideration.

Please, make sure you read our Constitution in detail, before you pontificate about what it says.
And where does it says that they cannot hinder their ability to declare war by signing a treaty? It doesn't remove their right to declare war. It merely hinder it.

Close but no cigar.
Sierra BTHP
23-09-2005, 15:09
And where does it says that they cannot hinder their ability to declare war by signing a treaty? It doesn't remove their right to declare war. It merely hinder it.

Close but no cigar.

A treaty does not hinder it. You obviously haven't been to law school in the US.

I have.
The Coral Islands
23-09-2005, 15:10
[QUOTE=Swilatia]Here they are:

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

9) There are too many donut shops.
[\QUOTE]


About point 8) ...It is actually one of the longest anthems in the world, we just tend to sing only the first verse to keep things concise. Beyond that, we have Provincial Anthems (or at least some of us do) and there is always singing God Save The Queen when we want to add some more length. Believe me, if we want to, we can keep on yodelling patriotic tunes until the cows come home.

About point 9) ...I suppose you could be right (definitely from a health or even taste standpoint), but it is a part of our culture (like hockey) so it has use as an institution of "Canadian-ness".
East Canuck
23-09-2005, 15:14
A treaty does not hinder it. You obviously haven't been to law school in the US.

I have.
Prove it.

The US signed a treaty that says that no offensive war shall be declared unless aproved by the UN security council. Congress have to respect that treaty. They still retain the right to declare war, but they can't declare war any time, anywhere. They have to abide by the treaties they ratified.

And, as far as I know, you haven't been to law school. You'll have to do better that merely stating it for me to believe you.
Sierra BTHP
23-09-2005, 15:22
Prove it.

The US signed a treaty that says that no offensive war shall be declared unless aproved by the UN security council. Congress have to respect that treaty. They still retain the right to declare war, but they can't declare war any time, anywhere. They have to abide by the treaties they ratified.

And, as far as I know, you haven't been to law school. You'll have to do better that merely stating it for me to believe you.

No, the powers enumerated by the Constitution supersede any treaty obligation. The Congress has the power to declare war - even issue letters of marque (which means they can hire people to do violence). They don't have to respect any treaty if they decide to exercise their power.

George Mason University School of Law, 1993. I practice contract law, and I also handle domestic violence cases in Fairfax County.

Like I said, this has been explained over and over again, including on National Public Radio, by left-leaning think tank experts. If this were not true, then anyone could have easily brought it up in court and stopped the whole thing.
Frangland
23-09-2005, 15:22
Their nation should not even be called Canada! Since the people call themselves "Canadians", not "Canadans", their nation should be called "Canadia", after all, Gemans don't call themselves "Germanians"

yeah, they live in part of what was once referred to as Germania.

...even though none of the germanic tribes were called the "Germans"

one of the germanic tribes, the Franks, named France after them.

so... let's do a rough diagram of which germanic tribes finally settled in today's countries:

Germany: Angles, Saxons, Franks, Alemanni, Burgundians, Lombards

Britain: Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Normans, Celts, Picts, Scots (who were from Ireland originally)

France: Visigoths (southern France), Gauls, Franks, Normans

Spain: Visigoths, Franks, Saracens/Arabs

Italy: Romans (mediterranean peoples), Ostrogoths, Lombards, Normans

anyone want to help complete this? what are the main ancient people who came to settle in your country (or what is now your country)?
The Coral Islands
23-09-2005, 15:42
Their nation should not even be called Canada! Since the people call themselves "Canadians", not "Canadans", their nation should be called "Canadia", after all, Gemans don't call themselves "Germanians"

Ha! I got the rest of the country waaay beat on that point. I am from (or at least I was for a decade and a half) Halifax, which makes me a Haligonian.

Now, tell me, who is going to know where I am from if I say "Haligonia"?

By your theory, what would that make you? A Polander? Or perhaps a Polish person from Polia? The rules on changing place names into personal ones are so warped... So why not have a bit of fun with it?
Sierra BTHP
23-09-2005, 15:44
Canadians who think they know US Constitutional law
The Coral Islands
23-09-2005, 15:47
Canadians who think they know US Constitutional law

How many Americans know the B.N.A. Act or the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms?

I mean really! I would not expect one to know all the ins and outs my my nation's policy, so why should I know hers/his? Obviously, the more knowledge the better, but still...
Enrosol
23-09-2005, 15:48
Stop saying that I'm an American! I'm Polish!

It doesn't matter. You're still arrogant.
Burnviktm
23-09-2005, 16:46
How many Americans know the B.N.A. Act or the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms?

How many Americans care?
Sierra BTHP
23-09-2005, 16:55
How many Americans know the B.N.A. Act or the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms?

I mean really! I would not expect one to know all the ins and outs my my nation's policy, so why should I know hers/his? Obviously, the more knowledge the better, but still...

I'm saying this because I'm being lectured on US Constitutional law by other Canadians on this forum, and they have no idea how completely ignorant they are.

It would be like me trying to lecture you on the niceties of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Corneliu
23-09-2005, 17:07
Who said the UN was a world government?

Apparently half the people on this board.

Look at the resolutions. It clearly states who can and cannot decide if someone has broken the cease-fire. Guess what: the US cannot unilaterally decide if a cease-fire has been broken.

I have looked at them. I also know that the cease-fire Resolution ended the conflict. Guess what? It was violated! In accordance with international law, that is all the authorization we need to go back to war with Iraq. What part of this aren't you understanding?

It is a treaty, whether you like it or not. And just because some people break their word doesn'T mean you can too without being called upon it. And it all depends on the individual constitution: Rwanda can treat treaties below their local law, for all I know. But I do know that treaties is treated as the supreme law of the land in the US so long as it doesn't violate the constitution.

No it is not, in fact, a treaty. I've read it so many times and I still can't see how people construe it as a treaty. And since the Charter never took away our right to wage war, you have no case.

Where does it says that in the constitution?

Article One of the United States Constitution. It grants the Congress the right to declare war (or under the War Powers act to authorize it). That is all the legal authority we need. We don't need the UN to tell us when to go to war.

Where does it says that you can declare war however you like in the consitution?

Article One of the United States Constitution.
The Chinese Republics
23-09-2005, 23:20
That makes your replies to my list invalid! LOL!
<<< see left :rolleyes:
Sinuhue
23-09-2005, 23:21
And here I was under the mistaken impression this thread was about Canada.
Anti-Liberalismists
23-09-2005, 23:31
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

3) They think everyone speaks french

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

9) There are too many donut shops.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!



5 things that piss me off about people pissed off at Canada:

1. They think our whole fucking country is forest. I'd rather have a bunch of forests that are gonna keep oxygen on this earth than a bunch of swamps and sites to put waste and trash from factories (New Jersey, anyone?)

2. They critize us for saying "eh", when not everone does and it does sound better than "huh"

3. The hate hockey and yes there are other sports but honestly, watching 1-0, 0-0 soccer games gets really boring, really fast

4. We don't get our shit from America, moron. And yes, our stuff is from Canada. I don't know where you get your facts but boy, don't trust those people with your lives.

5. They, of course, think we all speak French and love it (I do speak, although I really don't like it), but at least by having two official languages, we actually accept that not everyone in our country speaks ENGLISH.
Oxwana
24-09-2005, 03:21
As far as invading other countries, our only mistake with Iraq is that we didn't do it 12 years ago when he first started ignoring UN resolutions.The US has ignored more UN resolutions than any other nation, last I heard.
*invades the US*
*burns down the whitehouse (again)*
Corneliu
24-09-2005, 03:23
The US has ignored more UN resolutions than any other nation, last I heard.
*invades the US*
*burns down the whitehouse (again)*

Actually the US has used the VETO!

And just come and invade us. Stay out of the south though. Odds are any invasion there won't succeed.
Oxwana
24-09-2005, 03:32
I have to give you that one, the freakish amount of biting insects is a very good reason not to like Canada.I'm Canadian, and even I don't like that bit, but it's not all of Canada. They don't even have screens on the windows in BC! Oh, the novelty.
Oxwana
24-09-2005, 03:37
1) Our PM was not part of the sponsorship scandal and fired everyone basically involved when he took over as leader of the party, so not sure what you're talking about.The Dishonourable Paul Martin flew flags of convenience on the ships of Canada Steamshipping Lines (a form of tax evasion) while he was the Finance Ministre.
He is a criminal.

2) How can you sit there with a straight face and tell Canadians that our PM broke the law and we re-elected him after you all re-elected Bush.. Now THAT is funny!Bush is a criminal too. Why does it have to be either or?
Corneliu
24-09-2005, 03:40
Bush is a criminal too. Why does it have to be either or?

I'm still waiting on what crimes Bush committed while in office!
CanuckHeaven
24-09-2005, 03:44
And here I was under the mistaken impression this thread was about Canada.
Silly you. :D
M3rcenaries
24-09-2005, 04:35
Ive never actually been to canada, but ive met some pretty mean canadians in my day. Had fun arguing about hockey with them(i am a hockey fan, and i think the red wings are the best team)
Dakini
24-09-2005, 05:01
1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!
I only say "eh" for demonstrative purposes.

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.[/quote[
How does this offend you, exactly?

[quote]3) They think everyone speaks french
Not really.

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse
Not really.

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.
That's Toronto. Other cities have better systems.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.
Not really.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.
Stores tend to have both.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.
...Ok....

9) There are too many donut shops.
No, there just aren't enough doughnut shops elsewhere.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!
I know of someone who had his relatives curse the NHLPA in their obituary, but other than that...
Zatarack
24-09-2005, 05:05
It's there. I don't like it. I get resentful.

There's a reference in there somewhere.
The Coral Islands
24-09-2005, 13:27
An American friend once told me that he never really believed that Canadians said "Eh" until he got here, and then could not believe that since we know that others disapproved we did not stop using it. What I think he misses is its grammatical use in Canadian English (That weird and wonderful blend of honour with a 'u' and connection with a 'ct').

You see, "Eh" has a very particular use. It is a prompt for response. A short way of saying "so what do you think about that?". It is somewhat like a verbalised question mark, but does not have to follow a question. It is our way of expressing "you know, that was not a rhetorical statement, I expect some kind of an answer".

For example; if a Canadian says "You've had enough maple syrup" she means it and expects you to stop pouring our prescious national resource all over your pancake. If she says "You've had enough maple syrup, eh" she is asking 'Is two liters for one little pancake going to last, or shall I go fetch another bottle?'.

Besides all of that, we really do not use "eh" as much as we are made out to do. I think it might be, like so many other Canadian stereotypes, true of Ontarians moreso than people in other parts of the country. Since I (I must confess, completely in line with a stereotype) just moved to Ontario from Canada's Ocean Playground (Nova Scotia), I will have to see if the instances of "Eh" pick up any more. At least in Halifax, we tend not to use it very much.

So that's some Canadian grammar, eh.
Enrosol
24-09-2005, 14:43
Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't know why we say it. ;)
Dobbsworld
24-09-2005, 14:53
*yawns*

The OP sounds like it was written by yet another underage cricket fan with too much time on his hands... and his cousin's dull axe to grind over all things Canadian.
Swilatia
24-09-2005, 17:21
*yawns*

The OP sounds like it was written by yet another underage cricket fan with too much time on his hands... and his cousin's dull axe to grind over all things Canadian.
Cricket sucks.
Weird Pilgrims
24-09-2005, 18:02
The main thing I think is weird in quebec is that they speak french, but then they curse in english.
Swilatia
24-09-2005, 18:34
The main thing I think is weird in quebec is that they speak french, but then they curse in english.
People curse in English everywhere, regardless of the language they really speak.
Avalon II
24-09-2005, 19:59
1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!!

In the same way Americans make far too liberal use of the word "like". It's like, you know like, a word that like is too like USED!


2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

I was in Whistler which is North of Montreal, I saw a great many things other than forests. Also, lord forbid that conservation would be taken seriously by someone.


3) They think everyone speaks french

Just the same way that Americans think everyone speeks English. French is the second most widely spoken language in the world.


4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

America keeps bashing Canada without realising they get a massive ammount of lumber and hydroelectric power from Canada. And I am sure that Canada makes some of its own goods, else it wouldnt be an independent nation, and have a functioning economy.


5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.

I think the solution is to exchange your tickets for tokens (which is what I did when I was on holiday there, when I explained the problem to someone)


6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

I've been there, I've seen it, They DO have their own goods


7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

Maybe thats because they are not so totalitarian as to outlaw all other systems


8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

Who are you to judge that.


9) There are too many donut shops.

And in America there are too many coffee houses. Everyone has too much of something


10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!

I'm sure there would be simmilar stories in the US if the NFA was cancelled or baseball or NBA etc. Dont presume your not in the same boat
Alexandria Quatriem
24-09-2005, 21:51
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

3) They think everyone speaks french

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

9) There are too many donut shops.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!
1) we only do that when tourists are around, to piss them off :D
2) forests are awesome! don't diss forests...but you'll also see snow. and ice
3) only the montreal...um...ians...and that's also just to piss off tourists :D
4) that is very true
5) that's ontario, not canada :p ...the rest of them are very decent
6) we make lotsa things! like maple syrup!
7) that's cuz everything is imported from the US. anything made in canada has metric...for example, you buy litres of milk, not gallons
8) it's longer than most. we just skip the last 2 verses, cuz they talk about god and french, which ppl tend to hate
9) you can never have too many donuts/doughnuts/donoughts/doughnoughts
10) at least it's not college football
The blessed Chris
24-09-2005, 22:07
Cricket sucks.

I will assume, therefore, that you didn't watch the Ashes

MORON
Mekonia
24-09-2005, 22:09
Here they are:

1) They end all their question sentences with "eh?". Seriously, its annoying!

2) Go north of montreal, and all you will see is forests.

3) They think everyone speaks french

4) They keep bashing America without even realising that they get all their goods from that nation, and if it did, Canada would collapse

5) The Toronto Metro (sorry, subway) is a mess. You buy tickets at one station to get on, and for the return route as well, only to find out that the station you get on for your return route uses tokens, and you have to waste money to get tokens, when you already have tickets.

6) They do not have their own goods. they get everything from america, also, the things in america that seem to come from Canada actually come from other nations.

7) In stores and all of that kind of places, English units (sorry, Imperial units) are used, while metric units are the legal sytem there.

8) Their National anthem is too short to be a national anthem.

9) There are too many donut shops.

10) Canadians are so obsessed with Hockey. Some of them commited suicide because the NHL was cancelled this year. seriously, there are other sports out there!


Who cares eh? Americans always say Oh my God, Cork ppl always say like, the list is endless. I've never been to Canada 'm going in a few months and I can't wait!
Fori
24-09-2005, 22:37
People curse in English everywhere, regardless of the language they really speak.

In fact, they do not. In Quebec there are plenty of vulgar things to say, but to French people (and let's remember that French is the second most widely used language on earth), English swearing is cute and less vulgar than the curses they use. In Quebec all of the worst language is religiously based...tabernac, hostie (I'm sure I spelled that wrongly, forgive me), Christ, etc. In France the cusses are more sexually based, enculez, con, etc. Most people I know who speak more than one language don't swear in their language of origin. It's too vulgar to contemplate. Their second language though, now that's a lot of fun. Me, I find both English and French cursing too vulgar (yes, I'm a Canadian and speak both official languages blah blah blah), so I swear in Italian. It rolls off the tongue much more nicely than English.

By the way, if Canada pisses you off that much, you don't have to come here and you can just forget about us. You might be a happier person!
Swilatia
28-09-2005, 16:36
That's Toronto. Other cities have better systems.

The montreal metro also sucks.
Sierra BTHP
28-09-2005, 16:38
The fact that Canadians like to whitewash their past (just like the Americans).

Example: On the recent thread about Canadian Prime Ministers, no Canadian wanted to touch the subject of Mackenzie King.

They neatly sidestepped him like he was something the dog left.
United Island Empires
28-09-2005, 16:54
Their nation should not even be called Canada! Since the people call themselves "Canadians", not "Canadans", their nation should be called "Canadia", after all, Gemans don't call themselves "Germanians"
Canada means big village!!!!
Iztatepopotla
28-09-2005, 16:58
You see, "Eh" has a very particular use. It is a prompt for response. A short way of saying "so what do you think about that?". It is somewhat like a verbalised question mark, but does not have to follow a question. It is our way of expressing "you know, that was not a rhetorical statement, I expect some kind of an answer".

It's quite funny that when I moved to Canada from Mexico I picked up on the use of "eh" immediately because, in the region I come from, we use it exactly the same way, perhaps with even more frequency.

Sure, it sounds a bit different in Mexican-gulf-coast Spanish, a more open "eh", but it's the same.
Swilatia
28-09-2005, 17:00
Canada means big village!!!!
No it just means "village" the name probably come from it low population, not many people want to live there.
Canada6
28-09-2005, 18:05
The montreal metro also sucks.Actually it's pretty neat. It's like a city underground, whith shops and stuff.
Veritable Intoxication
28-09-2005, 18:21
I am not trying to bait anyone.
Bulls**t
Veritable Intoxication
28-09-2005, 18:27
They neatly sidestepped him like he was something the dog left.

Cretien is truly something the dog left. Martin is not far behind.
Kiwi-kiwi
28-09-2005, 18:29
The fact that Canadians like to whitewash their past (just like the Americans).

Example: On the recent thread about Canadian Prime Ministers, no Canadian wanted to touch the subject of Mackenzie King.

They neatly sidestepped him like he was something the dog left.

William Lyon Mackenzie-King? Wasn't he the one that held seances to talk with his dead mother?
Harlesburg
29-09-2005, 11:34
1)Didnt Beat the Jarps up enough at the 95 World Cup
2)Dieppe
3)Didnt do any reall fighting in WWII prior to D-Day
4)French
5)Didnt successfully Beat America
6)NHL was cancelled last season
7)Not enough Maple Syrup
8)Not enough Maple Syrup
9)Draft dodgers
10)Canadian Bacon.
Sierra BTHP
29-09-2005, 14:38
William Lyon Mackenzie-King? Wasn't he the one that held seances to talk with his dead mother?
Among other things. One of the great racists in history of all time.

Whenever I read articles about Canadian Prime Ministers, or, as I see in this thread, lists of Canadian Prime Ministers, they seem to quietly leave him out.

I guess it keeps up that image of Canada as a nice, happy place where the children have gumdrop smiles, and the birds sing, and everyone is doing fine.
Miodrag
29-09-2005, 15:28
In fact, they do not. In Quebec there are plenty of vulgar things to say, but to French people (and let's remember that French is the second most widely used language on earth),


French is by no means even close to being the second most widely used language even in Europe, let alone the world.

Maybe you meant English -- but even thal language is not the second, and not even the third, only the fourth.

As for the Yanks, they should be called US-ers or simply "the Users", because they are sucking the energy of the world at an unprecedented scale.

As for Canada, having gay marriage -- not some silly "partnership" crap, but a genuine marriage -- fully equal to heterosexist oppressive variant -- it is the sole civilised country in the WEestern hemipshere, indeed in the whole section of the globe between Spain in the East and Holland in the West
New Fuglies
29-09-2005, 20:11
Among other things. One of the great racists in history of all time.

Whenever I read articles about Canadian Prime Ministers, or, as I see in this thread, lists of Canadian Prime Ministers, they seem to quietly leave him out.



There's something you should know, Sierra. Racism, particualrly anti-semetism was rampant then. Few nations, including Canada, are an exception to that and rest assured wherever you live things were no different. You'd know that if you spent some time reading on the history of your own country, which is as of yet unknown and me thinks you got something to hide and/or are some quazi-nationalist who seeks comfort in finding fault in nations other than your own. Canadians know about Mackenzie King about as much as they need to know about a PM who received much of his education in the US. Further I don't see where it says Canadians are obliged to discuss our former PM's and the lack of response may be indicative of a lack of interest in the topic as opposed to an obvious interest in deflecting attention from your own absolutely perfect society. :rolleyes:

Oh and BTW William Lyon Mackenzie King was the grandfather of PM Mackenzie King.
Sierra BTHP
29-09-2005, 20:15
There's something you should know, Sierra. Racism, particualrly anti-semetism was rampant then. Few nations, including Canada, are an exception to that and rest assured wherever you live things were no different. You'd know that if you spent some time reading on the history of your own country, which is as of yet unknown and me thinks you got something to hide and/or are some quazi-nationalist who seeks comfort in finding fault in nations other than your own. Canadians know about Mackenzie King about as much as they need to know about a PM who received much of his education in the US. Further I don't see where it says Canadians are obliged to discuss our former PM's and the lack of response may be indicative of a lack of interest in the topic as opposed to an obvious interest in deflecting attention from your own absolutely perfect society. :rolleyes:

Oh and BTW William Lyon Mackenzie King was the grandfather of PM Mackenzie King.


You'll notice that I never said my society was perfect. But I am tired of Canadians who come off holier than thou, and then, just like every other nation, I find an ugly toad under a large rock. A rock placed there by the very people who usually claim that Canada is so great.
Lewrockwellia
29-09-2005, 20:17
Canada is one of the few asshole-free countries in the world. Canada is virtually without assholes. I've met quite a few Canadians, and every one of 'em was as friendly as can be. :)
New Fuglies
29-09-2005, 20:18
You'll notice that I never said my society was perfect. But I am tired of Canadians who come off holier than thou, and then, just like every other nation, I find an ugly toad under a large rock. A rock placed there by the very people who usually claim that Canada is so great.

It may be because they have an issue against the US which is current, not 60 some odd years past.
Equus
29-09-2005, 20:19
Among other things. One of the great racists in history of all time.

Whenever I read articles about Canadian Prime Ministers, or, as I see in this thread, lists of Canadian Prime Ministers, they seem to quietly leave him out.

I guess it keeps up that image of Canada as a nice, happy place where the children have gumdrop smiles, and the birds sing, and everyone is doing fine.

You can hardly expect racism to be something Canadians -- or anyone else, for that matter -- would be proud of.

And he wasn't mentioned in the great PMs thread because the original poster SPECIFICALLY mentioned MODERN PMs.

John A. MacDonald was nominated for the Greatest Canadian competition held by the CBC, mostly because he was a father of Confederation, created the RCMP (NWMP) and was the PM who linked Canada coast-to-coast by rail. Although a controversial choice for many reasons (alcoholism, seances, and taking bribes, AS WELL AS the aforementioned racism), you can't claim that Canadians swept him under the carpet because of his warts.

By the way, he came in 8th.
Sierra BTHP
29-09-2005, 20:21
It may be because they have an issue against the US which is current, not 60 some odd years past.

Apparently, someone else here doesn't have to go back too far.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9714195&postcount=190
New Fuglies
29-09-2005, 20:22
Apparently, someone else here doesn't have to go back too far.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9714195&postcount=190

Yes, typical meatless conservative barking.
Kiwi-kiwi
29-09-2005, 20:22
Canada is one of the few asshole-free countries in the world. Canada is virtually without assholes. I've met quite a few Canadians, and every one of 'em was as friendly as can be. :)

Lies! Lies, I tell you! I have met SO MANY assholes in my life. Er... well, maybe not 'so many', but I certainly have encountered them, and not rarely.
Lewrockwellia
29-09-2005, 20:24
Lies! Lies, I tell you! I have met SO MANY assholes in my life. Er... well, maybe not 'so many', but I certainly have encountered them, and not rarely.

I highly doubt any of the assholes you met were Canadian. Canadians just aren't capable of being assholes. They're great people.
Equus
29-09-2005, 20:26
I highly doubt any of the assholes you met were Canadian. Canadians just aren't capable of being assholes. They're great people.

Thanks, but yes, we too have home-grown assholes. And euthansia isn't legal yet.
Sierra BTHP
29-09-2005, 20:27
Thanks, but yes, we too have home-grown assholes. And euthansia isn't legal yet.
And they're taking away your guns.

Looks like you'll have to use those seal clubs.
Lewrockwellia
29-09-2005, 20:30
Thanks, but yes, we too have home-grown assholes. And euthansia isn't legal yet.

They're probably outsider assholes, not Canadian ones. 'Canadian' and 'asshole' just don't mix. Sort of like how 'honest' and 'politician' just don't mix.
Willamena
29-09-2005, 20:31
They're probably outsider assholes, not Canadian ones. 'Canadian' and 'asshole' just don't mix. Sort of like how 'honest' and 'politician' just don't mix.
LOL

We're immune!

Blanket immunity is nice.
Sierra BTHP
29-09-2005, 20:32
They're probably outsider assholes, not Canadian ones. 'Canadian' and 'asshole' just don't mix. Sort of like how 'honest' and 'politician' just don't mix.

I thought that Canada has "asshats" instead.
Kiwi-kiwi
29-09-2005, 20:38
I highly doubt any of the assholes you met were Canadian. Canadians just aren't capable of being assholes. They're great people.

No seriously. They go to my school. They were in my Air Cadet squadron. They were definitely Canadians. Though maybe they weren't necessarily 'assholes'. Maybe they were something creative yet idiotic like 'arsemonkeys'.
Rastaia
29-09-2005, 20:55
10 - American football is the worst sport in existence. It's Rugby for sissies. You need kevlar body armour. You need water breaks about every twenty seconds. come on! Hockey is at least interesting to play and watch! Get a better sport before you complain about theirs! How about Jai-Alai? Curling? Wheelchair Basketball? Other countries play hockey. Nobody else plays american football. nobody else watches american football. No other ocuntry has more than a token team!


I know that you're half-joking, but this is bullshit and a half.

Football is Rugby for real men. Any rugby team in the world would be systematically picked apart by an NFL team.

Hell, McNabb is playing with a chest contusion, a sports hernia, and some other random leg injury, and he's doing fine. He's played with a broken ankle before and he did great.
Swilatia
29-09-2005, 20:55
I highly doubt any of the assholes you met were Canadian. Canadians just aren't capable of being assholes. They're great people.
If you really think that, you have probably never hear of Paul Martin, Canada's current Prime minister.
Swilatia
29-09-2005, 20:56
Actually it's pretty neat. It's like a city underground, whith shops and stuff.
The shops are nice. The actual metro is not.