NationStates Jolt Archive


Not bushes christianity

Jeefs
21-09-2005, 19:07
The bishops suggested the apology would be a public act
Church of England bishops have suggested Christian leaders apologise to Muslim leaders for the war in Iraq.
A report from a working group of bishops says the war was one of a "long litany of errors" relating to Iraq.

As the government is unlikely to offer an apology, a meeting of religious leaders would provide a "public act of institutional repentance", it said.

It urges a "truth and reconciliation" meeting, but acknowledges that arranging it could be difficult.

The report, entitled Countering Terrorism: Power, Violence and Democracy Post 9/11, was written by a working group of the Church of England's House of Bishops.

It suggests the meeting would be an opportunity to apologise for the way the West has contributed to the situation in Iraq, including the war.

Collusion

The Church of England has criticised the war, saying it was not a "just war".

But a dilemma now exists for those within the Church - to pull out of Iraq without a stable democracy in place would be irresponsible, but to stay suggests collusion with a "gravely mistaken" war, the bishops said.


Leaving Iraq without stability would be irresponsible, the Church said

But if collusion was a necessary evil, the report says, there needs to be a degree of public recognition of the West's responsibility for the present situation.

"It might be possible for there to be a public gathering...at which Christian leaders meet with religious leaders of other, mainly Muslim, traditions, on the basis of truth and reconciliation, at which there would be a public recognition of at least some of the factors mentioned [in the report]."


this is an extract from a bbs website, Bush and blairs moral christian obligation was to "protect civilians"that was the whole point of the war, so whats happening here? and should blair and bush go to a war crimes tribunal like saddam?
Fass
21-09-2005, 19:12
Ah, the futility of religion.
Drunk commies deleted
21-09-2005, 19:24
You know, if religion didn't stick it's nose into issues that didn't concern it then Christians in the US, UK, etc. could focus on lobbying their governments to put more people and resources into stabilizing Iraq instead of wasting their time apologizing to all Muslims, and Muslims in Iraq could focus on helping stabilize their country so the foreigners could get the fuck out.
Fass
21-09-2005, 20:37
You know, if religion didn't stick it's nose into issues that didn't concern it then Christians in the US, UK, etc. could focus on lobbying their governments to put more people and resources into stabilizing Iraq instead of wasting their time apologizing to all Muslims, and Muslims in Iraq could focus on helping stabilize their country so the foreigners could get the fuck out.

But that would require pragmatism, something that seems anathema to religion.
Willamena
21-09-2005, 20:43
The bishops suggested the apology would be a public act
Church of England bishops have suggested Christian leaders apologise to Muslim leaders for the war in Iraq.
A report from a working group of bishops says the war was one of a "long litany of errors" relating to Iraq.

As the government is unlikely to offer an apology, a meeting of religious leaders would provide a "public act of institutional repentance", it said.

*snip*

But if collusion was a necessary evil, the report says, there needs to be a degree of public recognition of the West's responsibility for the present situation.

"It might be possible for there to be a public gathering...at which Christian leaders meet with religious leaders of other, mainly Muslim, traditions, on the basis of truth and reconciliation, at which there would be a public recognition of at least some of the factors mentioned [in the report]."
I think it's a wonderful idea, and I'd like to see that happen.
Domici
21-09-2005, 21:12
But that would require pragmatism, something that seems anathema to religion.

"Religion has no place in schools! Just like facts have no place in organized religion." - Superintendent Chaumers, The Simpsons.
Fass
21-09-2005, 22:14
"Religion has no place in schools! Just like facts have no place in organized religion." - Superintendent Chaumers, The Simpsons.

That's Supernintendo Chalmers to you! :fluffle: