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Now let my tie two disparate ideas together here.

First: Pledge drives.

Great idea on how to fund a cause. Living in suburbia I can't go a week without some kid knocking on the door looking for my pledge as he promises to Walk for Cancer, Dance for his Band Trip, Screw for Virginity or whatever. And they each get their pound of flesh out of me, and are on their way.

Second idea: Free speech.

As much as I acknowledge the right of epople to stand outside an abortion clinic hurling obscenities at all who enter, I think we can all agree that such activities serve little purpose save as an annoyance factor and a drain on taxes as the police need to moniter and control the crowds. Anything anyone can do to convince these people to stay the hell home and read their bibles in peace is a good thing to my mind. MAybe they'll even note that God didn't seem particulary concerned about innocent children when he demolished cities for the sins of the parents, or sent bears to rip them apart for the crime of making fun of someone, but maybe not. And that's besides the point. Still, at least it will clean up the sidewalks.

So how do these two ideas mesh together?

Simple!

Planned parenthood is now letting you sponsor the protesters! (http://www.ppsp.org/PledgePicket-index.asp) You offer to pay X amount per protester per day, and they will count the number of people blocking their doors and attempting to intimidate or shame other citizens with their spitefull rhetoric and bill you appropriately.

The bonus?

They will put out a sign letting the protesters know how much their being there has contributed to the charities coffers.

"Thanks for showing up! Ka-Ching!!! See you tomorrow? And please, bring a friend..... or ten"




Frankly, I think that this is a brilliant idea.

Best idea I've heard in a LONG time.

If I lived in the area I'd be standing on the streecorner opposite the protesters gathering pledges..... loudly!


"Adopt-a-wingnut! C'mon, help us get these poor people off the streets and back into churches! Remember, only YOU can prevent protest friars!...etc"

Reminds me of Maddox's 'Sponser a Vegetarian' scheme: "For every animal you don't eat I'm going to eat three!" :D

It's quite a clever idea.

Who are Planned Parenthood?

Okay I am pro-life but that is the most intelligent way to get rid of pesky protestors I have ever heard. :D

Who are Planned Parenthood?
They are an organization commited to what they call "reproductive rights" they provide education on birth control and abortion. here is thier website (www.plannedparenthood.org/)

Okay I am pro-life but that is the most intelligent way to get rid of pesky protestors I have ever heard. :D


Exactly. Much as I respect your belief even if I disagree with it, and much as I recognize the right to protest, from a daily standpoint it does absolutely nothing for the discourse on the subject. Hurling hate is a piss-poor way to bring people to your side.

And finding ways to get them to go away of their own accord is the best solution for all concerned as legislating them away is not an option.

Cool, very cool. Too bad the local offices have enough protesters to warrant it.

I really wonder about those protestors anyway. I mean lets look at the situation

a woman is in a postition that she is unhappy with and unable to deal with (being pregnant) she has probibly made the hardest decision of her life and feels that she is doing what is right for the child and herself.
you want to stop her and get her to see things your way so you what

offer her counsel? nope. pray for her? nope. pray with her? nope.
They yell vile and insulting things.
yeah that will make her turn around and want to hang out with you.

btw I do volunteer at a Christian crisis pregnancy center, and we try to find other solutions than abortion, I had a girl that after counseling decided to terminate anyway, and although I really truly believe it was wrong, I went with her and prayed with her, as a Christian I would have felt evil to abandon her in such a tough time.

btw I do volunteer at a Christian crisis pregnancy center, and we try to find other solutions than abortion, I had a girl that after counseling decided to terminate anyway, and although I really truly believe it was wrong, I went with her and prayed with her, as a Christian I would have felt evil to abandon her in such a tough time.
You're creating a stain on the harmfully conservative Christian stereotype. How dare you offer consolation during the hardest part of this woman's life so far :rolleyes:

Dude, we need more people like you. I'm sick of people saying they hate my views 'cause I'm Catholic, without even knowing my views :headbang:

Simonist']You're creating a stain on the harmfully conservative Christian stereotype. How dare you offer consolation during the hardest part of this woman's life so far :rolleyes:

Dude, we need more people like you. I'm sick of people saying they hate my views 'cause I'm Catholic, without even knowing my views :headbang:
I feel your pain. I got a lot of crap from people for going with her. I mean my mom went with me to rehab, she knew I had made mistakes but she also knew I needed support. It isn't entirely the same but close enough for some of them to get thier heads out of thier ... uh... well anyway, we still are friends and she has 2 kids now, and a husband, and is doing as well as can be expected (meaning that both of her kids are under 2 and she is tired all the time) :)

I really wonder about those protestors anyway. I mean lets look at the situation

a woman is in a postition that she is unhappy with and unable to deal with (being pregnant) she has probibly made the hardest decision of her life and feels that she is doing what is right for the child and herself.
you want to stop her and get her to see things your way so you what

offer her counsel? nope. pray for her? nope. pray with her? nope.
They yell vile and insulting things.
yeah that will make her turn around and want to hang out with you.

btw I do volunteer at a Christian crisis pregnancy center, and we try to find other solutions than abortion, I had a girl that after counseling decided to terminate anyway, and although I really truly believe it was wrong, I went with her and prayed with her, as a Christian I would have felt evil to abandon her in such a tough time.

I think this is the perfect solution. Try to find a better solution but support her if she does go through with it. Speaking as a reluctant pro-choicer (I really don't like abortion but I accept that at times it can be the lesser of the evils) and an atheist I think that we need more centers like that and more people like you. Keep up the good work. :)

Now let my tie two disparate ideas together here.

First: Pledge drives.

Great idea on how to fund a cause. Living in suburbia I can't go a week without some kid knocking on the door looking for my pledge as he promises to Walk for Cancer, Dance for his Band Trip, Screw for Virginity or whatever. And they each get their pound of flesh out of me, and are on their way.

Second idea: Free speech.

As much as I acknowledge the right of epople to stand outside an abortion clinic hurling obscenities at all who enter, I think we can all agree that such activities serve little purpose save as an annoyance factor and a drain on taxes as the police need to moniter and control the crowds. Anything anyone can do to convince these people to stay the hell home and read their bibles in peace is a good thing to my mind. MAybe they'll even note that God didn't seem particulary concerned about innocent children when he demolished cities for the sins of the parents, or sent bears to rip them apart for the crime of making fun of someone, but maybe not. And that's besides the point. Still, at least it will clean up the sidewalks.

So how do these two ideas mesh together?

Simple!

Planned parenthood is now letting you sponsor the protesters! (http://www.ppsp.org/PledgePicket-index.asp) You offer to pay X amount per protester per day, and they will count the number of people blocking their doors and attempting to intimidate or shame other citizens with their spitefull rhetoric and bill you appropriately.

The bonus?

They will put out a sign letting the protesters know how much their being there has contributed to the charities coffers.

"Thanks for showing up! Ka-Ching!!! See you tomorrow? And please, bring a friend..... or ten"




Frankly, I think that this is a brilliant idea.


I want to kiss whoever thought of this idea ... lol thats great

Well, I just spewed Mt-dew all over the keyboard reading that. Funny stuff!

I really wonder about those protestors anyway. I mean lets look at the situation

a woman is in a postition that she is unhappy with and unable to deal with (being pregnant) she has probibly made the hardest decision of her life and feels that she is doing what is right for the child and herself.
you want to stop her and get her to see things your way so you what

offer her counsel? nope. pray for her? nope. pray with her? nope.
They yell vile and insulting things.
yeah that will make her turn around and want to hang out with you.

btw I do volunteer at a Christian crisis pregnancy center, and we try to find other solutions than abortion, I had a girl that after counseling decided to terminate anyway, and although I really truly believe it was wrong, I went with her and prayed with her, as a Christian I would have felt evil to abandon her in such a tough time.

Kudos to you! I don't agree with most abortions, but I can respect the woman's decision and be there for her when she most needs it. It's good to know there are others who do the same thing.

They are an organization commited to what they call "reproductive rights" they provide education on birth control and abortion. here is thier website (www.plannedparenthood.org/)
So are they a charity or business or what?

I really wonder about those protestors anyway. I mean lets look at the situation

a woman is in a postition that she is unhappy with and unable to deal with (being pregnant) she has probibly made the hardest decision of her life and feels that she is doing what is right for the child and herself.
you want to stop her and get her to see things your way so you what

offer her counsel? nope. pray for her? nope. pray with her? nope.
They yell vile and insulting things.
yeah that will make her turn around and want to hang out with you.

btw I do volunteer at a Christian crisis pregnancy center, and we try to find other solutions than abortion, I had a girl that after counseling decided to terminate anyway, and although I really truly believe it was wrong, I went with her and prayed with her, as a Christian I would have felt evil to abandon her in such a tough time.
I'm glad we have you on the forum. There are too many people who think that all fundamentalist Christians are a bunch of raving trolls, which is not true.

Hilarious idea,and it'd annoy the hell out of the protesters.

Now let my tie two disparate ideas together here.

First: Pledge drives.

Great idea on how to fund a cause. Living in suburbia I can't go a week without some kid knocking on the door looking for my pledge as he promises to Walk for Cancer, Dance for his Band Trip, Screw for Virginity or whatever. And they each get their pound of flesh out of me, and are on their way.

Second idea: Free speech.

As much as I acknowledge the right of epople to stand outside an abortion clinic hurling obscenities at all who enter, I think we can all agree that such activities serve little purpose save as an annoyance factor and a drain on taxes as the police need to moniter and control the crowds. Anything anyone can do to convince these people to stay the hell home and read their bibles in peace is a good thing to my mind. MAybe they'll even note that God didn't seem particulary concerned about innocent children when he demolished cities for the sins of the parents, or sent bears to rip them apart for the crime of making fun of someone, but maybe not. And that's besides the point. Still, at least it will clean up the sidewalks.

So how do these two ideas mesh together?

Simple!

Planned parenthood is now letting you sponsor the protesters! (http://www.ppsp.org/PledgePicket-index.asp) You offer to pay X amount per protester per day, and they will count the number of people blocking their doors and attempting to intimidate or shame other citizens with their spitefull rhetoric and bill you appropriately.

The bonus?

They will put out a sign letting the protesters know how much their being there has contributed to the charities coffers.

"Thanks for showing up! Ka-Ching!!! See you tomorrow? And please, bring a friend..... or ten"




Frankly, I think that this is a brilliant idea.

yes, we absolutely should give money to supporters of baby-murderers.

So are they a charity or business or what?

A little of both, I would say. They provide reproductive counseling and care (including consultations, pap smears, condoms, birth control pills, morning after pill, prenatal care, and, yes, abortions) at a lower price than just about anywhere but a campus health center (which gets health fees in addition to whatever the patient pays). At the prices they give, I highly doubt they make much, if any, profit in the deal. They also support people in legal cases related to reproductive rights. As far as I know, they do take charitable donations - I have no idea if the donations are tax deductible or anything like that.

I'm glad we have you on the forum. There are too many people who think that all fundamentalist Christians are a bunch of raving trolls, which is not true.

There are too many people who think all [INSERT GROUP HERE] are a bunch of [EXPLETIVE] [EXPLETIVE] [INSERT INSULT HERE]s. It's a big problem in the world - and this forum is not different.

yes, we absolutely should give money to supporters of baby-murderers.

The solution is clear. If you don't like what Planned Parenthood does (of which abortion is only a very small percentage), then don't stand outside and protest, thus giving them money from those who pledge.

If you stay home, they get less money. See?

yes, we absolutely should give money to supporters of baby-murderers.
I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.

The solution is clear. If you don't like what Planned Parenthood does (of which abortion is only a very small percentage), then don't stand outside and protest, thus giving them money from those who pledge.

If you stay home, they get less money. See?
Yup :) great Idea

I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.

Oooh, Frangland is in trouble now... he's had the Montoya Principle invoked against him...

Oooh, Frangland is in trouble now... he's had the Montoya Principle invoked against him...
INCONSEVABLE!

yes, we absolutely should give money to supporters of baby-murderers.
Why do you irrational pro-lifers always insist upon using such inflammatory language? And from what I've seen of you so far, you enthusiastically support the Iraq war, which has certainly not proven bloodless for the children of Iraq.

Oooh, Frangland is in trouble now... he's had the Montoya Principle invoked against him...
What is that quote anyways? I can never remember it.