NationStates Jolt Archive

With all this fervor about the Chancellor elections (Chancellor is a cooler name then President...D:) I've put up a poll on what Party(s) you support.

Mainly the FDP, from what I've been reading.

Whoops, I think I put up the ability to select more then one party. OH well, does'nt matter, just select the one you favor the most, unless you can't choose. :D

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Whats wrong with this party? National Socialist German Workers' Party

Whats wrong with this party? National Socialist German Workers' Party
I do hope you're joking.

Hint, their acronym is NAZI.

I support the FDP, from what I've been reading they're the best choice. And to those of you who support the republicans, that party is actually a radical right wing nationalist party, nothing like the American republicans.

Hint, their acronym is NAZI.

..oh wow then why do they still let that party run?

I love your trolling!

It's like they took everything I liked about the US Republican Party and put it in the CDU, and everything I hated and put it in the FDP. Not that it makes any difference since the CDU and FDP are allies.

With all this fervor about the Chancellor elections (Chancellor is a cooler name then President...D:) I've put up a poll on what Party(s) you support.
That is why Sel Appa has a chancellor. :D

I thought the Nazis were banned...

I thought the Nazis were banned...

They are....

Yeah, the last option was a joke.

Yeah, the last option was a joke.

Seems like some people didn't get it.

The Left Party seems to be by far the best in Germany and if I lived there I would be almost certain to vote for them. This is because they are the only party that is strongly opposed to Shröder's neoliberal reforms and his attempts to dismantle the welfare state.

hmm, i thought germany had a populist party and a communist party?(real communist.)

This is because they are the only party that is strongly opposed to Shröder's neoliberal reforms and his attempts to dismantle the welfare state.

And why is that bad?

Fdp

hmm, i thought germany had a populist party and a communist party?(real communist.)
The Left Party includes "former communists" from East Germany although it is now a reformed radical democratic leftist party.

And why is that bad?
It is obviously bad to destroy the welfare state as it would force millions of people into poverty and simply redistribute wealth from the majority of the population and into the hands of a few greedy capitalists.

Fdp

Is it just me, or does it seem a little hypocritical that there is no longer allowed to be a Nazi party; although, there is allowed to be a communist party? (Even if the name Communist is worded differently)

FDP in real life :)
NSWP as a joke.

It is obviously bad to destroy the welfare state as it would force millions of people into poverty and simply redistribute wealth from the majority of the population and into the hands of a few greedy capitalists.

Sounds better the more I hear it.

Left Party, for it has some old Easterners.

The NSDAP was misunderstood, and in the post-wwii it was demonized to an unjust extent imho. it did things that are not accepted in judaeo-christian morality, but who gave that belief monopoly? "god"? (yes, i know this qualifies as trolling, i care not)

Generally I like the SPD and the Greens.
But currently I feel the SPD needs some time in opposition to reform itself. It'll break apart if it has to continue the reforms.
Which is why I think a CDU/FDP Coalition isn't too bad right now.

Crazy World sometimes...

It would help if I knew what their positions on whatever the important issues are were.

..oh wow then why do they still let that party run?
They don't. We haven't had an NSDAP in 60 years.

It would help if I knew what their positions on whatever the important issues are were.
Well, what are the important issues to you?
I can tell you now:
Abortion? All pro choice.
Gay Rights? Everyone except perhaps parts of CDU/CSU is pro.
Iraq? Everyone against (although CDU/CSU weren't so sure a while ago)

hmm, i thought germany had a populist party and a communist party?(real communist.)There's two Communist parties. The Marxist Leninist Party of Germany (MLPD) and the Communist Party of Germany (KPD). These are the only parties to preach a communist doctrine and they were markedly under the 5% necessary to enter parliament.

Is it just me, or does it seem a little hypocritical that there is no longer allowed to be a Nazi party; although, there is allowed to be a communist party? (Even if the name Communist is worded differently)The SED was different from the NSDAP. They were a dictatorship, but in not comparable to the Nazi Regime.
As for nazi and communist parties, all parties need to meet certain requirements to be parties. This ranges from having enough signatures to having a democratic party constitution. One of the main reasons the neo-nazi NPD claims its so much better than the NSDAP is because unlike the original Nazi party, they elect their leaders and have a democratic structure. Not that this prevents them from being allowed to preach the abolition of the Republic (just like the communist MLPD).

Why can't I vote the APPD in this poll when it is possible to vote parties like the NPD or the Grey Panthers? :(

Well, what are the important issues to you?
I can tell you now:
Abortion? All pro choice.
Gay Rights? Everyone except perhaps parts of CDU/CSU is pro.
Iraq? Everyone against (although CDU/CSU weren't so sure a while ago)Uh, not the NPD. The neo-nazis are anti-abortion and anti-gay rights.

Uh, not the NPD. The neo-nazis are anti-abortion and anti-gay rights.
Bah, the NPD aren't a real party.

Why can't I vote the APPD in this poll when it is possible to vote parties like the NPD or the Grey Panthers? :(You can't vote for the PBC either :p
I had a slightly different poll a while back that allowed you to vote for one of the five big parties, an "other" party, or purposefully invalidate your ballot.

Bah, the NPD aren't a real party.No, the Partei (http://www.die-partei.de/) don't qualify as a real party in my eyes. The NPD are just idiots...

You can't vote for the PBC either :p
I had a slightly different poll a while back that allowed you to vote for one of the five big parties, an "other" party, or purposefully invalidate your ballot.
What was the result?

What was the result?The Greens and the Linkspartei were pretty much tied for strongest faction... And the FDP had more votes than the CDU/CSU. In the end, I don't think people cared all that much.

Well, what are the important issues to you?
I can tell you now:
Abortion? All pro choice.
Gay Rights? Everyone except perhaps parts of CDU/CSU is pro.
Iraq? Everyone against (although CDU/CSU weren't so sure a while ago)

Well, Social Democrats look promising. What are their views?

What are in general, the parties views on the enviroment, separation of church and state, the poor?

Well, Social Democrats look promising. What are their views?

What are in general, the parties views on the enviroment, separation of church and state, the poor?Not an issue except for the Fundie parties PBC and Christliche Mitte, and they don't ever get enough votes.

Well, Social Democrats look promising. What are their views?
http://partei.spd.de/servlet/PB/menu/1010237/index.html

Currently everything is about creating jobs...

Not an issue except for the Fundie parties PBC and Christliche Mitte, and they don't ever get enough votes.
Has anybody else the feeling that these guys are dangerous fanatics, which should better be called "Christliche extreme Rechte"? I can remember a few years ago, when the campaigned for mosques to be banned.

Green Party and Linke... messed up in the poll, though. Sorry.

Yes, seems somewhat biased...forum users seem to be different from "real ife" voters, aren´t they?

Yes, seems somewhat biased...forum users seem to be different from "real ife" voters, aren´t they?
It seems to be that way. Nice to see that here the greens would be the strongest party :D , but I hope that those who voted for the Republicans confused them with the US Republicans.

It seems to be that way. Nice to see that here the greens would be the strongest party :D , but I hope that those who voted for the Republicans confused them with the US Republicans.They do consider themselves the "CSU of the North"... Strange how they're openly racist though...

They do consider themselves the "CSU of the North"... Strange how they're openly racist though...
I guess they do so to be more appealing for these who are not of the extreme right. It's remarkable that they sometimes succed with this tactic.

The people seem to vote for them for the stupidest reasons. My grandma once voted for them because of the german sausage to stay pure. :( But she is really old, so that might be an excuse.

Hint, their acronym is NAZI.

I support the FDP, from what I've been reading they're the best choice. And to those of you who support the republicans, that party is actually a radical right wing nationalist party, nothing like the American republicans.

Although I know the republicans are not the same as the US Republican Party, your description fit very well with mr. Bush party! :D

I think we need a Green policy, although I don't like the support to the 2010 Agenda of the SPD, but ecology, and what it means (supportable development, social justice and markets limits) are our first priority face to the new century. I was born in a coastal city not higher than 13 meters, and some parts are under the level of the sea, so I'm afraid about the Greenhouse effect and the rising level of the ocean.
Unforunately, we're so sillythan we don't understand that the time is finishing to do something :headbang:

Chancellor is a different office from the Federal President in Germany. It's more accurately related to a Prime Minister and serves a different role from that of our President since it cannot execute many of its duties w/o the president's support.

Also, why have so many people been selecting the Left and Green parties as their perfered power in the FGR? Neither party is a dominant force in parliament, and the Left party is made up of ex-commies and radical Soc. Dems. I'm surprised more people haven't selected the Social Democratic Party since THEY are the dominant LEFT party.

The Christian Social Union is also alligned with the Christian Democratic Union in case anyone was wondering why that party isn't listed.

Since there is no true social liberal/modern liberal, liberal democrat party in Germany... (I mean... the FDP is neoliberal/classic liberal, and that's as far away from my ideology as any other right wing conservative party.) And there is no true liberal party, the party that comes ideologically closest to what I believe is the SDP. Despite that they are social-democrats.

I'm not sure I support Shroeder though.

Chancellor is a different office from the Federal President in Germany. It's more accurately related to a Prime Minister and serves a different role from that of our President since it cannot execute many of its duties w/o the president's support.

Also, why have so many people been selecting the Left and Green parties as their perfered power in the FGR? Neither party is a dominant force in parliament, and the Left party is made up of ex-commies and radical Soc. Dems. I'm surprised more people haven't selected the Social Democratic Party since THEY are the dominant LEFT party.

The Christian Social Union is also alligned with the Christian Democratic Union in case anyone was wondering why that party isn't listed.
Actually, I consider them a right-wing party.
And I'm seem not to be alone with that opinion.
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/germany2005.gif

I don´t think there´s much surprise in so many people voting for the "left" party of Gysi/Lafontaine because of so many disappointed people...it´s just some kind of "Protestwähler" (protesting electors)

Actually, I consider them a right-wing party.
And I'm seem not to be alone with that opinion.
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/pol...germany2005.gif

well, if you really *do* believe that then.. :headbang:
but i've seen that image beforeas well (when i did the test) and i really wondered..who did it. and such. :rolleyes:

well, if you really *do* believe that then.. :headbang:
but i've seen that image beforeas well (when i did the test) and i really wondered..who did it. and such. :rolleyes:
Well, they do have a neo-liberal economic position. That whole HARZ II stuff wasn't made by the Union. And with the "Lauschangriff" and biometric ID-card issue they have proven to be on the authoritarian side, too. So I don't have to belive in that picture to be disenchanted with the sdp and consider them a central-right party.

to be disenchanted with the sdp
alright
consider them a central-right party
pushing it a little bit far there

I support all parties. :D

*chips in for beer*

WHOO!

Sorry to be overly correct, but it is "Hartz IV", and Mr. Hartz is actually unemployed because he fell out of grace over some brazilian...but that´s not the point, bum luck, though ;)

The "left" party is anyway on the extreme verge of democratic parties, fishing votes from the disappointed

And "Harz" is a mountain range in the middle of germany, look for Walpurgisnach, Brocken etc... ;)

Sorry to be overly correct, but it is "Hartz IV", and Mr. Hartz is actually unemployed because he fell out of grace over some brazilian...but that´s not the point, bum luck, though ;)

The "left" party is anyway on the extreme verge of democratic parties, fishing votes from the disappointed
OK, yes, my failure. Well, my spelling is horrible and I mixed "Hartz IV" with "Arbeitslosengeld II" , but it is confusing indeed. ;)

alright

pushing it a little bit far there
Maybe I'm just that far left that they appear to me as a right-wing party. After all right and left is a matter of position. ;)
But Schily would easily fit in a party like the CSU IMO and he is our sdp minister of the interior

OK, yes, my failure. Well, my spelling is horrible and I mixed "Hartz IV" with "Arbeitslosengeld II" , but it is confusing indeed. ;)

Macht ja nix...guess you´re not receiving one or the other...it´s even confusing for those who are publicly responsible for it ;) by the way, is Mr. Hartz getting "Arbeitslosengeld I" oder Arbeitslosengeld II" ;)

Macht ja nix...guess you´re not receiving one or the other...it´s even confusing for those who are publicly responsible for it ;) by the way, is Mr. Hartz getting "Arbeitslosengeld I" oder Arbeitslosengeld II" ;)I actually get BaföG, but I guess that's been around longer... :D