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Southern gentlemen; Not just in the US?

Legless Pirates
19-09-2005, 22:10
Discuss
New Granada
19-09-2005, 22:12
Historically, it has been the south of england which has been most haughty and aristocratic.
Alinania
19-09-2005, 22:12
I say that since the concept of 'South' is an American invention, Southern gentlemen are exclusively American, too.
Argesia
19-09-2005, 22:13
Southern Romanians mostly lived underground in the last 400 years.
Legless Pirates
19-09-2005, 22:14
I say that since the concept of 'South' is an American invention, Southern gentlemen are exclusively American, too.
I don't think the Americans invented "south"

Anyway. I'm asking if there's a specific part of your country from which people just seem nicer.
Sinuhue
19-09-2005, 22:14
Um...my husband is South American...does that make him a southern gentleman? (on the days he actually feels like being a gentleman:))
Fass
19-09-2005, 22:14
Huh?
Eichen
19-09-2005, 22:15
... Are sexy. ;)
Legless Pirates
19-09-2005, 22:16
Um...my husband is South American...does that make him a southern gentleman? (on the days he actually feels like being a gentleman:))
That's great. Tell me more about it
Alinania
19-09-2005, 22:19
I don't think the Americans invented "south"

Anyway. I'm asking if there's a specific part of your country from which people just seem nicer.

Oh. wight. I still think the Americans invented the whole compass thing. North, South, you name it! :p

Yes. There is a specific part of my country from which people seem nicer, and that would be our capital city. Not in the 'Southern gentlemen' way though. I don't know why, people are just friendlier, everything works a little slower than elsewhere (they even talk slower than anything I've heard...). Takes a little to get used to, but once you're used to them, you'll never want to leave :D
Mini Miehm
19-09-2005, 22:20
Being from the the south of the US doesn't automatically make him a gentleman. :rolleyes:

I believe that she means South American, as in South America, you know?
Legless Pirates
19-09-2005, 22:22
I believe that she means South American, as in South America, you know?
Shhhhhhh......

*hides*
The Jovian Moons
19-09-2005, 22:23
What good has the south done for the US? Slavery, civil war, civil rights issues, right wing preachers who fail to accept basic facts (evolution) and finally Nascar. Personally I don't think the south is any more of a gentlemen than the north. Probably less considering what the national steriotype is...
BTW South America is not the southern states. It is the continent south of us. and happy international talk like a pirate day. 9-19-05 yarr...
Sinuhue
19-09-2005, 22:27
I believe that she means South American, as in South America, you know?
*gasp*

LP!!! You thought I married a man from the south of the US!!!!!!!! ME!!!???

Even for a second...that is just a silly thing to think :D
Fass
19-09-2005, 22:29
What good has the south done for the US? Slavery, civil war, civil rights issues, right wing preachers who fail to accept basic facts (evolution) and finally Nascar. Personally I don't think the south is any more of a gentlemen than the north. Probably less considering what the national steriotype is...

-Please do not link to this- ~Euro
Perkeleenmaa
19-09-2005, 22:30
South means southern temperament. This is wayward behavior.

My 0,02 €
Legless Pirates
19-09-2005, 22:32
*gasp*

LP!!! You thought I married a man from the south of the US!!!!!!!! ME!!!???

Even for a second...that is just a silly thing to think :D
No I didn't. Mini Miehm made it up...... Really!..... I swear!..... Please believe me :(
Sinuhue
19-09-2005, 22:32
South means southern temperament. This is wayward behavior.

My 0,02 €
Isn't that like a buck twenty in Canadian dollars? What kind of two cents is that! Are you going to be listened to more than others who's currency is valued less than yours? BIAS!!!! :D
Sinuhue
19-09-2005, 22:33
No I didn't. Mini Miehm made it up...... Really!..... I swear!..... Please believe me :(
Okay :fluffle:

Don't you hate it when people quote you before you can fix your mistakes?
SoWiBi
19-09-2005, 22:47
h. wight. I still think the Americans invented the whole compass thing. North, South, you name it!

:eek:

:confused:
SoWiBi
19-09-2005, 22:53
Isn't that like a buck twenty in Canadian dollars
i very much doubt that, though i have no clue when it comes to the canadian dollar..
but lets use an international standard..you get a quality brand 100-grams piece of chocolate for 0,70€.. :D taht give you an idea?
Myrmidonisia
19-09-2005, 23:19
i very much doubt that, though i have no clue when it comes to the canadian dollar..
but lets use an international standard..you get a quality brand 100-grams piece of chocolate for 0,70€.. :D taht give you an idea?
A hundred grams of chocolate? Is that more or less than a furlong?
SoWiBi
19-09-2005, 23:28
i usually trust my dictionary..but it tells me a furlong to be an eigth of a mile?! you meant that?! :confused:

now a hundred grams of chocolate would be like..if it is of regular thickness, probably about one-and-a-ahlf the size of my hand?
Myrmidonisia
19-09-2005, 23:42
i usually trust my dictionary..but it tells me a furlong to be an eigth of a mile?! you meant that?! :confused:

now a hundred grams of chocolate would be like..if it is of regular thickness, probably about one-and-a-ahlf the size of my hand?
I'm just unmetrified. And I like to yank your metric chain. I could look it up, but why bother with an archaic system of measurements that has a standard that keeps changing (http://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/Kilogram.htm).

BRAUNSCHWEIG, Germany. In these girth-conscious times, even weight itself has weight issues. The kilogram is getting lighter, scientists say, sowing potential confusion over a range of scientific endeavor.

The kilogram is defined by a platinum-iridium cylinder, cast in England in 1889. No one knows why it is shedding weight, at least in comparison with other reference weights, but the change has spurred an international search for a more stable definition.

"It's certainly not helpful to have a standard that keeps changing," says Peter Becker, a scientist at the Federal Standards Laboratory here, an institution of 1,500 scientists dedicated entirely to improving the ability to measure things precisely.

Even the apparent change of 50 micrograms in the kilogram — less than the weight of a grain of salt — is enough to distort careful scientific calculations.

This isn't Scrappleface, it's the New York Times. Okay, they make things up, too. But I think these guys are serious.
The Downmarching Void
19-09-2005, 23:44
-snip- ;)

LOL! That's an excellent piece of vitriol. Much more amusing than the thread itself.
SoWiBi
19-09-2005, 23:51
i really don't give a damn whether my kilogram is "less than the weight of a salt of grain" heavier or lighter..i mean.. a kilogram is about 2 pounds..doesn't matter..does for the scientists, but for me..*shrugs*

now does anyone know what the pound is based on?
Myrmidonisia
19-09-2005, 23:58
i really don't give a damn whether my kilogram is "less than the weight of a salt of grain" heavier or lighter..i mean.. a kilogram is about 2 pounds..doesn't matter..does for the scientists, but for me..*shrugs*

now does anyone know what the pound is based on?
Probably the kilogram. The inch is certainly based on the meter. Personally, I like the ties that the nautical mile has to the distance being measured. A Nm is one minute of latitude. So if you have a chart with latitude and longitude, you can measure distance. No need for an artificial scale on the charts margin.
Iztatepopotla
20-09-2005, 00:40
I say that since the concept of 'South' is an American invention, Southern gentlemen are exclusively American, too.
This is correct. Before the US invented the concept of South, people could only travel North and often had to go around the Earth to get somewhere south of their position.

The US also invented the Moon, teeth, and cirrus clouds.
Iztatepopotla
20-09-2005, 00:44
A Nm is one minute of latitude. So if you have a chart with latitude and longitude, you can measure distance. No need for an artificial scale on the charts margin.
As long as you're only going north or south. Any other heading, you'll need a scale anyway.
Dakini
20-09-2005, 00:47
Part of the country where people seem nicer?

Dude, I'm from Canada, we're stereotypically nice.

It varies a lot from city to city almost it seems... In Brampton, you might get a nice response if you say hi to a stranger on the street... in Hamilton, you generally get a smile, a hello and sidewalk space.

I hear that people are really nice down east. My boyfriend is always saying that if you're just walking down the street, strangers will invite you up to their porches for beer.
Myrmidonisia
20-09-2005, 00:53
As long as you're only going north or south. Any other heading, you'll need a scale anyway.
LOL. Come on, think about it for a second. You'll figure out a way to measure distance in any direction.
Lacadaemon
20-09-2005, 00:55
People in the south east of england tend to be ill-mannered and social climbers.

(Not all of them of, course, but it is very suburban down there).
The Blaatschapen
20-09-2005, 00:55
True for my country. Even though I'm from the south and thus biased ;)

But I hear it quite a lot from those silly Northerners :p

But I'm wondering if it holds true for a country like Belgium, which is heavily divided in a North and South side? Or for very small countries in which it's very hard to distinguish a northern and a southern part (think about Luxembourg and smaller)?
Iztatepopotla
20-09-2005, 00:58
LOL. Come on, think about it for a second. You'll figure out a way to measure distance in any direction.
Yeah, with a one of these:

www.caminos.upm.es/imt/imag/compas.jpg

(what do you call them in English, anyway?)

but then you just graduate it in whatever scale you want and there you are. The chart's projection is going to alter the scale, so you'll end up needing some help to measure the exact distance.
Swimmingpool
20-09-2005, 01:00
-snip- ;)
That's, like, the funniest rant in history.

I don't think the Americans invented "south"

Anyway. I'm asking if there's a specific part of your country from which people just seem nicer.
In Germany it's Bavaria, which is also their South.
SoWiBi
20-09-2005, 01:00
Probably the kilogram
erm..so you're taking back your previous comment? but why bother with an archaic system of measurements that has a standard that keeps changing 'cause then your sytem keeps changing as well.. :D


This is correct. Before the US invented the concept of South, people could only travel North and often had to go around the Earth to get somewhere south of their position.

The US also invented the Moon, teeth, and cirrus clouds.

rofl
Myrmidonisia
20-09-2005, 01:01
Discuss
First, you need to define what makes a Southern Gentleman. I would say that the overriding requirement is chivalry. That's right, the knightly qualities of honor, generosity, and courtesy. Especially needed is graciousness and courtesy to women. There aren't many men that will even offer up a seat on a bus or hold a door open for a woman, nowadays. I suppose we need to look to the past for our southern gentlemen.
Mini Miehm
20-09-2005, 01:05
-snip- ;)

You may want to delete that, because if the mods catch you with that up, and since I'm about to report it to them, they probably will, you will most likely get your post deleted, at the very LEAST, I personally, as a Southern Gentelman myself, think that a person like you should be Forumbanned.
SoWiBi
20-09-2005, 01:08
you might wanna be quicker than that, mini, cuz that link's all over the forum already as far as i can tell *admits to have spent the last 7 hours in this freaking forum - needs to stop! :eek: *

p.s. bavarians..are just..****...you know. let's say us northeners aren't perfect gentlemen either but.. ;)
Planners
20-09-2005, 01:08
if you're just walking down the street, strangers will invite you up to their porches for beer.

Its true :p
Mini Miehm
20-09-2005, 01:10
you might wanna be quicker than that, mini, cuz that link's all over the forum already as far as i can tell *admits to have spent the last 7 hours in this freaking forum - needs to stop! :eek: *

p.s. bavarians..are just..****...you know. let's say us northeners aren't perfect gentlemen either but.. ;)

I've been a little too busy to be offended recently, but that really pissed me off, makes me wish I had a gauntlet... ;)
Undal
20-09-2005, 01:10
I have lived in the south of America, and I now live in the north of America, so I feel I have experience to contribute to this (that everyone will hate)...

The South is NOT nicer than the rest of the country. I can't possibly imagine where the thread-starter got this idea. While there are obviously many examples of kind, respectable people down there, in a whole, the south has the following characteristics:

Biggoted
Closed-minded
pig-headed
xenophobic
suspitious
gossipy
vengful
fanatichristian

True story: Back in Clinton's first election, a group of the neighborhood children came to my door and sayd "Mrs. :D , we suspect you of being a Democrat." They asked as if they wanted to know if I was hiding bodies in my basement.

The idea of a Southern Gentleman hasn't existed since about the Civil war. It was a set of social rules that rich, well-off white men used when courting rich, well-off white women. It wasn't all that nice either, but iit would be a welcome relief to what they have now.

I think the poster is mistaking a southern gentleman with a southern man that happens to be a nice guy (don't get me wrong, there are plenty. They're just outnumbered.).
Mini Miehm
20-09-2005, 01:22
I have lived in the south of America, and I now live in the north of America, so I feel I have experience to contribute to this (that everyone will hate)...

The South is NOT nicer than the rest of the country. I can't possibly imagine where the thread-starter got this idea. While there are obviously many examples of kind, respectable people down there, in a whole, the south has the following characteristics:

Biggoted
Closed-minded
pig-headed
xenophobic
suspitious
gossipy
vengful
fanatichristian

True story: Back in Clinton's first election, a group of the neighborhood children came to my door and sayd "Mrs. :D , we suspect you of being a Democrat." They asked as if they wanted to know if I was hiding bodies in my basement.

The idea of a Southern Gentleman hasn't existed since about the Civil war. It was a set of social rules that rich, well-off white men used when courting rich, well-off white women. It wasn't all that nice either, but iit would be a welcome relief to what they have now.

I think the poster is mistaking a southern gentleman with a southern man that happens to be a nice guy (don't get me wrong, there are plenty. They're just outnumbered.).

This in NO WAY repersents my true feelings, but I feel like it has to be said, if only for the ignorant pigs in the Klan, who, while dirty and generally unpleasant, still deserve a voice.

The South is only Biggoted, Closed-minded, pig-headed, xenophobic, suspitious, gossipy, vengful(well, we're pretty much all vengeful if you screw us over, so that actually fits me, I'm damn touchy about my Honor), fanatichristian(Personally, nothing wrong with normal christians, but the fanatics just make the rest of us look bad), if you're a dirty pinko left-wing commy liberal intent on destroying our states rights and racial superiority(right, says the guy with three teeth and a cousin for his wife, I hate the Klan with a fiery passion...) then of course we hate you.

Not my opinion, but the ignorants need to have their say too. And since they generally get baned within a day, I figured I'd say their piece as inoffensively as possible, just to have everyone represented here, now, who wants to bash the Klan for a while?
Lipstopia
20-09-2005, 03:54
I have lived in the south of America, and I now live in the north of America, so I feel I have experience to contribute to this (that everyone will hate)...

The South is NOT nicer than the rest of the country. I can't possibly imagine where the thread-starter got this idea. While there are obviously many examples of kind, respectable people down there, in a whole, the south has the following characteristics:

Biggoted
Closed-minded
pig-headed
xenophobic
suspitious
gossipy
vengful
fanatichristian


At least we can spell bigoted, suspicious, and vengeful. Strangely enough, you will find people in the north that also fit that description. They are the ones who are not pinko-hippy-god-haters.

See how stupid generalizations are?

Time for me to go back to my lurking.