NationStates Jolt Archive


Does China support abortion?

Bleenie
19-09-2005, 21:25
AFX News Limited
China sees need for one-child policy to be maintained
09.18.2005, 10:32 AM

BEIJING (AFX) - China is in no position to relax its one-child policy as it struggles to keep its population within 1.37 bln by the end of the decade, Xinhua news agency reported, citing an official.

Continued tough implementation of the policy is needed even though China is now in the 'low-birth-rate' club with 1.8 children per couple, down from 5.8 three decades ago, the news agency said.

'China's low birth rate is unstable,' Zhang Weiqing, the head of the National Population and Family Planning Commission, was quoted as telling a conference in east China's Shandong province.

'Many people fail to fully understand that keeping a low birth level is an arduous and long-term task for China,' Zhang said.

The two-decade-old policy makes it illegal for urban couples to have more than one child but allows rural couples to have a second child if their first is a daughter.

According to data released by the commission, China would have had almost 400 mln people more than the current 1.3 bln if the one-child population policy had not been launched a generation ago.

http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2005/09/18/afx2230068.html


Forced abortions for China-Taiwan couples

TAIPEI, Taiwan -- At least six Chinese women married to Taiwanese nationals have been requested to have abortions on visits home to the mainland, according to a Taipei Times report.

The women were reportedly cooerced to have abortions or undergo sterilization surgery by Chinese birth control personnel to comply with China's one-child policy.

They were also threatened with punishment and fined by Chinese officials, Taiwan's Straits Exchange Foundation (SEF) said.

"The victims only described what the Chinese officials told them to do, but we don't know for a fact if anyone was truly forced to have an abortion because they keep it private," the Taipei Times reported Patricia Lin of the Straits Exchange Foundation as saying.

"Under current Taiwanese regulations, children from cross-strait marriages can be registered as permanent residents of Taiwan, so they won't be a burden to China," Lin said.

Women pregnant with a first child were also told to have an abortion having failed to get permission from the government to give birth, according to the report.

Taiwan's Government Information Office Web site describes the Straits Exchange Foundation as "the only private organization authorized by the government to handle relations with the mainland."

The foundation is not, however, authorized to discuss political issues.

Strained relations
Relations between Taiwan and China have been strained since the countries split in 1949. Despite this, there have been many marriages between Chinese and Taiwanese citizens.

About 150,000 mainland Chinese have married Taiwanese, however the quota system only allows for 3,600 to settle in Taiwan per year.

Taiwan allows pregnant Chinese spouses who do not have residency rights to extend their stay, so they can give birth on the island and avoid forced abortion.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/east/07/19/taiwan.china.abortion/
Argesia
19-09-2005, 22:28
Am I to believe that if the Guomindang, through sheer serendipity, were to gain power on the mainland they would see no problem with over-population? Would they also pretend that "in Rand McNally people wear shoes on their feet and sandwiches eat people" (Simpsons quote)?
It's just a form of sabotage, or a publicity stunt.
Bleenie
20-09-2005, 01:46
asadsdasfdsfsda11!!!!111!!1. ect..

this is what i get for trying to start a *real* debate. :(:(:(
FROM NOW ON I AM JOINING MY OWN JOLT CULT.. *thinks* I am now the only member of the *thinks* *pauses* Worthless Speakers Militia!! yeah!

..i need a hug.
Serapindal
20-09-2005, 01:48
Yeah, Abortion is the only real problem I have with China.

Anyways, if you don't want the babies, just ship them over the America, we don't have enough Chinese people anyways!
Zanato
20-09-2005, 01:50
Onward, Zhang! Onward China! *salute*
Karaska
20-09-2005, 01:58
Yeah, Abortion is the only real problem I have with China.

Anyways, if you don't want the babies, just ship them over the America, we don't have enough Chinese people anyways!

Lol wierdo...
*secretly ships babies to America, one head pokes out of box*
"HEY WHERE ARE YOU TAKING US"!!!
"Shhh your on a secret mission you have to eat as much as you can in the orphanages and starve americans"
"YES SIR GENERAL ehh..."
"Brian"
"WHAT THATS NOT A CHINESE NAME YOU UNNATIONALISTIC PRICK"
"Oh shut up"!! *Slams box shut and watches as ship sails to America*
Jenrak
20-09-2005, 02:02
We don't support abortion. We're pretty much forced to resort to it. If we didn't have to, we wouldn't.
Karaska
20-09-2005, 02:03
yeah I support abortions too, better to do that then to have the entire nation starve to death
The Chinese Republics
20-09-2005, 02:14
Yeah, Abortion is the only real problem I have with China.

Anyways, if you don't want the babies, just ship them over the America
Sir, I'm pretty offended by you're comments.
BTW, you're right. If you don't want the kids, set them up for adoption. Better and more humane than abortion.

We don't have enough Chinese people anyways!
Same here, our people are getting old here. Not too many chinese families moved to our community these days. A lot of people from our chinese community left because despite big plans in Prince Rupert, the economy is still bleak, and many for them moved to Vancouver for jobs and such and such. Without the Chinese community, our town wouldn't be as diverse as it was 20 years ago.
Sel Appa
20-09-2005, 02:18
You can't really be for abortion unless you are a twisted individual. You are either pro-choice or mindless idiot(jk)...antichoice.
Karaska
20-09-2005, 02:20
You can't really be for abortion unless you are a twisted individual. You are either pro-choice or mindless idiot(jk)...antichoice.

Oh come on you can't really think its better to let a people starve to death
Teh_pantless_hero
20-09-2005, 02:21
China without abortions is not a country, it is a "How many people can you cram into a phonebooth?" contest.

And why adopt Chinese babies? Do you have any idea how many American kids there are in need of a good home?
Karaska
20-09-2005, 02:22
BTW, you're right. If you don't want the kids, set them up for adoption. Better and more humane than abortion.


But in some way isn't that more cruel to grow up in a world knowing your mom and dad didn't want you, and you know you may never get adopted so your life may be pretty bad....
Serapindal
20-09-2005, 02:27
China without abortions is not a country, it is a "How many people can you cram into a phonebooth?" contest.

And why adopt Chinese babies? Do you have any idea how many American kids there are in need of a good home?

Exactly. We draft all babies from everywhere (abandoned babys from America, China, Mexico, Africa, etc. etc.) into the Schutzstaffel...wait, I meant the U.S. Military. And thus, the Re- U.S.A., shall be able to invade the Northern Barbarians, and then invade the greatest evil on Earth, France.
Karaska
20-09-2005, 02:30
And why adopt Chinese babies? Do you have any idea how many American kids there are in need of a good home?

That edit is a bit insulting, anyone adopted by an american can become an american I would rather not have something like adoption turned into some patriotic nationalistic B.S.
Teh_pantless_hero
20-09-2005, 02:32
That edit is a bit insulting, anyone adopted by an american can become an american I would rather not have something like adoption turned into some patriotic nationalistic B.S.
Thanks for blowing it entirely out of proportion. I am pointing out the ridiculous drive to import children for adoption. What about the children without homes here? Why doesn't some family adopt them? Foster homes are not your friends for the most part.

What I find insulting is the insistence that other countries are bad, evil people based on your own personal beliefs. We appoint you head of a nation with 1.4 billion people, even one baby to every 2 people places you over the 2 billion person mark. What do you do? Institute a program for shipping babies overseas for adoption?
Karaska
20-09-2005, 02:35
Thanks for blowing it entirely out of proportion. I am pointing out the ridiculous drive to import children for adoption. What about the children without homes here? Why doesn't some family adopt them? Foster homes are not your friends for the most part.

Thats true I thought you were saying something else
But as Americans were known for being near suicidal when it comes to human rights, we have the strange habit of fixing dictatorships in countries that want to be ruled and giving money to poor nations that often say screw you americans give us more money :(
Sigh but thats America
Zanato
20-09-2005, 02:35
Having an abortion is the noble thing to do. Just think of it - who chose to be born? It certainly wasn't your decision, you had no say in the matter. You're ripped out of the nihil and forced into life. If I had my way, let's just say you wouldn't be reading these words. Unfortunately, you are, and I'm not going to be committing suicide anytime soon.
Karaska
20-09-2005, 02:37
Having an abortion is the noble thing to do. Just think of it - who chose to be born? It certainly wasn't your decision, you had no say in the matter. You're ripped out of the nihil and forced into life. If I had my way, let's just say you wouldn't be reading these words. Unfortunately, you are, and I'm not going to be committing suicide anytime soon.

Dude *puts on glasses* I double over as a mentor to the pathetic new kids who go to middle school. You can tell your problems to uncle Bill :D