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Physician who told Cheney to go F*ck Himself Lost his Home in Katrina, Detained, Cuffed by Cheney's M-16-carrying Goons

by Jackson Thoreau

http://opednews.com/articles/opedne_jackson__050909_physician_who_told_o.htm

Dr. Ben Marble, a young emergency room physician who plays in alternative rock bands and does art on the side, needs our help. Since he was the one who told Dick Cheney to "go fuck yourself" on Sept. 8, that's the least we can do.

Marble is a complex guy, to say the least. Some of the lyrics he writes can be considered harsh by some – personally what I've heard is very much on target - but he has a softer side as an organizer of breast cancer fund-raisers, not to mention an ER doctor.

When he, like thousands of others, lost his home due to Hurricane Katrina last week, it was the single most traumatic week of his life. That led to his Sept. 8 confrontation with the man who best represents the worst of the most callous, heartless, shittiest administration in U.S. history.

As Marble explains, he was driving to his destroyed house Sept. 8 in Gulfport, Ms., when military police refused to allow him to cross a barricade that was about 200 feet from his home. They forced him to drive an extra 20 minutes and spend even more on gasoline.

"Thanks to Dubya Gump and Mr. Cheney, gas is really expensive and extremely hard to get anywhere Katrina has destroyed," Marble wrote. "So needless to say, I was extremely aggravated that they wouldn't let me pass."

Suddenly a long line of dark cars pulled up, and they honked at Marble to back up to let them through the barricade that supposedly no one could drive through. That only made Marble madder so he did what most of us would do – or at least consider doing.

"I waved a middle finger at the caravan," Marble wrote.

After driving the extra 20 minutes and filming video of destruction along the way, he made it to his home. Marble overheard a neighbor say that Cheney was down the street talking to people. That's when he got the idea to go meet Dr. Evil himself.

"I am no fan of Mr. Cheney because of several reasons," Marble wrote. "For those who don't know, Mr. Cheney is infamous for telling Senator [Pat] Leahy 'go fu** yourself' on the Senate floor. Also, I am not happy about the fact that thousands have died due to the slow action of FEMA, not to even mention the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time, i.e. Iraq."

So Marble, who was wearing an old Mr. T "I Pity Da Fool" t-shirt since he was sifting through the wreckage, asked a couple of police officers if he and a friend could walk down to Cheney. They told him Cheney was "looking forward” to talking to “the locals.”

"So we grabbed my Canon digital rebel and my Sony videocamera and started walking down the street," Marble wrote. "And then right in front of the destroyed tennis court I used to play on Dick Cheney was giving a pep rally, talking to the press. The Secret Service guys patted us down and waved the wands over us, and then let us pass."

As he stood about 10 feet away from Cheney and his friend and some camera operators from CNN and other media filmed the scene, Marble suddenly yelled, "Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney! Go fuck yourself, you asshole!"

Hey, at least Marble was polite. After all, he referred to Cheney as “Mr. Cheney.”

"I had no intention of harming anyone but merely wanted to echo Mr. Cheney's infamous words back at him," Marble wrote. "At that moment, I noticed the Secret Service guys with a panic-stricken look on their faces, like they were about to tackle me, so I calmly walked away back to my former house."

His friend videotaped a little bit longer and then came back to Marble’s house. As they were salvaging a few things from Marble's home, two military police waving M-16's showed up and said they were looking
for someone who fit Marble's description who had cursed at Cheney.

"I told them I was probably the person they were looking for, and so they put me in handcuffs and 'detained' me for about 20 minutes or so," Marble wrote. "My right thumb went numb because the cuffs were on so tight, but they were fairly courteous and eventually released me after getting all my contact info. They said I had NOT broken any laws so I was free to go."

So let’s get this straight: A physician with a newborn baby loses most everything he owns in the hurricane, does what most of us WANT to do and “echoes” Cheney’s words he spoke on the Senate floor last year, walks away harmlessly, mission accomplished, and then once the media cameras leave, he is treated like a foreign terrorist as Cheney’s goons waving M-16s handcuff him in front of his destroyed home? Had it not been for the media cameras filming the initial scene, I doubt Cheney’s goons would have just let Marble go after 20 minutes.

America, land of the free?

Marble and his family have been in the media spotlight before, including his wife, Lisa, and baby, Sofia Grace, who was born shortly after the storm, on CNN. Marble has also been interviewed in art magazines and the Biloxi Sun Herald about his concert fund-raisers and musical success — one of his bands, dR. O, has had at least 20 No. 1 songs on the MP3.com charts.

"The truth is even with all our losses, we are still luckier than many people down here because at least we didn't die," Marble wrote. "But I thought I could try to raise some awareness to the bad policies of the Dubya Gump administration and also possibly raise some money to replace the many things we lost, and so I decided I would auction the videotape my friend shot of the event. I will also grant an interview to the winner if so desired."

So go to eBay here and place a bid for this important video to help Marble raise some needed funds. I have done so and was at least at one time the high bidder.

Marble also has an Internet site with photographs of some damage in his town at www.HurricaneKatrinaSucked.com. A photo of him is here, and you can also email Marble at clone9@yahoo.com.

Dr. Ben Marble, you rock. May we all return the favor.

UPDATE: Late Friday, Sept. 9, and again on Sept. 10 and Sept. 11, eBay, which is owned by strong Bush-Cheney supporters, took down Marble's site.

Marble said it was because he didn’t bleep out the first “fu” of “fuck,” which he said in an email to me was “pretty silly.” I think it’s a bunch of BS – I did some searches on eBay of profanity they allow that is not even partially bleeped out and found more than 1,250 items on there with the word "bitch,” more than 400 items on there with the word "bastard,” more than 60 “go to hell” phrases and even two “goddamned son of a bitch” items. Yet, they say they won't even allow "f***.” That’s fu****. If you want to complain to an eBay bigwig, email meg@ebay.com.

The bidding on Marble’s second auction was over $1,900 at one time. He is also considering auctioning off some of his paintings.

Is there perhaps another source corroborating this other than OpEdNews's "progressive, liberal" article?

Is there perhaps another source corroborating this other than OpEdNews's "progressive, liberal" article?

lets go and see...

Regardless of the source, the fact that he echoed the profanity back at Cheney is hilarious, if not more dignified, since it didn't actually happen on the plenary floor of a parliament like Cheney's little indignity.

Is there perhaps another source corroborating this other than OpEdNews's "progressive, liberal" article?

there would appear to be plenty, however they all seem to be posted in Liberal type websites, I suppose it won't be true untill it appears on one of Georges t-shirts....

Physician who told Cheney to go F*ck Himself Lost his Home in Katrina, Detained, Cuffed by Cheney's M-16-carrying Goons
Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad:

Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad:

You're talking about Cheney, right? :confused:

there would appear to be plenty, however they all seem to be posted in Liberal type websites, I suppose it won't be true untill it appears on one of Georges t-shirts....

I will believe it when it appears on the mainstream news sites, like CNN, BBC, or even the dreaded FOX News.

Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad: Different moral standards apply to Cheney than to the rest of the American population? Well, well.

Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad:

since when is it a 'cuff-able' offence to express ones self in such a manner?

Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad:

Looks like somebody doesn't like freedom of speech too much. How'd you like it if you were to be cuffed just for saying that?

I will believe it when it appears on the mainstream news sites, like CNN, BBC, or even the dreaded FOX News.


...because they have a great reputation for being impartial, even the dreaded FOX News.

Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad:

You better not do any whinning about people's reaction to that comment, or you'll be a hypocrite aswell as an arsehole. :rolleyes:

since when is it a 'cuff-able' offence to express ones self in such a manner?
I guess the worst it could be constrewed as would be disturbing the peace. But aside from that I would not really know.

You're talking about Cheney, right? :confused:
Yeah ... him too! Although I don't recall him being a fuckin' crybaby like this aleged "physician" was. As far as I'm concerned, whinning and crying about the consequences you know will follow an act for which you can reasonably expect to be at least questioned is nothing less than extreme childishness. This seems to be a regular pattern followed by the far left: do something you know will land you in trouble, then whine and cry about the "evil, oppressive goons" who question you.

If you can't stand the frakkin' heat, get yer sorry ass outta the kitchen!

You better not do any whinning about people's reaction to that comment, or you'll be a hypocrite aswell as an arsehole. :rolleyes:
I've been forum-banned three times for calling people on things about which they should have known better. I don't recall whinning about any of them.

Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad:I wish this applied to Rumsfeld...

I guess the worst it could be constrewed as would be disturbing the peace. But aside from that I would not really know.

fair enough, however a little more understanding should have been displayed, considering the actual circumstance, Cheney was made look bad, I honestly believe that the Physician chap was only saying what a lot of American people are thinking...

...because they have a great reputation for being impartial, even the dreaded FOX News.

Considering some stories on these so called "liberal news" sites are sensationalist, or even outright lies, I am inclined to believe the REAL news sites.

And yes, the BBC does have a reputation of being inpartial.

Considering some stories on these so called "liberal news" sites are sensationalist, or even outright lies, I am inclined to believe the REAL news sites.

And yes, the BBC does have a reputation of being inpartial.

ahh, the BBC, you will get no arguement from me on that point, if only all News Media companies were up to the standards set by the Beeb.

fair enough, however a little more understanding should have been displayed, considering the actual circumstance, Cheney was made look bad, I honestly believe that the Physician chap was only saying what a lot of American people are thinking...

Yea but you have a crowd of people there. This is the vice president we are talking about so if security had thought it was an attempt on his life or something like that there would have been a major panic and people could have gotten hurt. You don't yell fire in a crowded theater for a reason.

This seems to be a regular pattern followed by the far left: do something you know will land you in trouble, then whine and cry about the "evil, oppressive goons" who question you.
Man! Now telling Cheney to fuck himself qualifies someone as "far left"?

Could you give us examples of other such instances?

I wish this applied to Rumsfeld...
It does, actually. It just depends upon the public.

...because they have a great reputation for being impartial, even the dreaded FOX News.

No, but 'news' is more likely to be true the more widespread the reporting is.

It's much the same with how a morsel of food is likely to be larger when it has a larger amount of fly eggs hatching into maggots in it.

Man! Now telling Cheney to fuck himself qualifies someone as "far left"?
Even in that biased article, on a far left site ( BTW ), it was fairly well-established that this aleged "physician" was a leftist, or do you have some actual, like ... you know ... factual information that he's something else???

No, but 'news' is more likely to be true the more widespread the reporting is.

It's much the same with how a morsel of food is likely to be larger when it has a larger amount of fly eggs hatching into maggots in it.
ROFLMAO!!! Good analogy! :D

No, but 'news' is more likely to be true the more widespread the reporting is.

It's much the same with how a morsel of food is likely to be larger when it has a larger amount of fly eggs hatching into maggots in it.

That is a good analogy, disgusting but good ;)

And by the way ... I definitely do not appreciate your calling military police "Goons." I strongly suggest you not refer to any American military personnel as "Goons." :mad:

It'll be a story to be told for years! "I told Cheney to go fuck himself and I got arrested! Good times!" :D

And by the way ... I definitely do not appreciate your calling military police "Goons." I strongly suggest you not refer to any American military personnel as "Goons." :mad:

if thats aimed at me, please remember i did not write the article, i merely read it and posted it here, But that said I do think the American Military contains its fair share of Goonish elements, in fact more than the average, were you ever in the American Mil...oh never mind, I don't want to be the cause of any more Red White and Blue tears. :p

I rather liked Cheney's outburst on the Senate floor, we'd all live in a happier world if more people quit pretending that they liked each other and admitted that they were enemies.
On the other hand, the doctor got what he deserved for two (2) (zwei) reasons:
He was probably doing more than just speaking, and most likely the guards thought he might be about to do something foolishly heroic
He said "Fuck you Mr Cheney"! Pick a side, pussy, you must curse or you must be polite.

Yeah ... him too! Although I don't recall him being a fuckin' crybaby like this aleged "physician" was. As far as I'm concerned, whinning and crying about the consequences you know will follow an act for which you can reasonably expect to be at least questioned is nothing less than extreme childishness. This seems to be a regular pattern followed by the far left: do something you know will land you in trouble, then whine and cry about the "evil, oppressive goons" who question you.

If you can't stand the frakkin' heat, get yer sorry ass outta the kitchen!
There you go again, showing no sympathy or tolerance for people who are merely exercising their right to speak while undergoing extreme stress and trauma. How many curses and threats did you indulge in while digging through the water in that famous rice paddy of yours? (Yep, I've got a long memory. :D )

But as long as you think Cheney should have been cuffed, detained, and questioned for saying the exact same thing to Patrick Leahy, then I guess we don't have an argument.

Do you think that?

I rather liked Cheney's outburst on the Senate floor, we'd all live in a happier world if more people quit pretending that they liked each other and admitted that they were enemies.
On the other hand, the doctor got what he deserved for two (2) (zwei) reasons:
He was probably doing more than just speaking, and most likely the guards thought he might be about to do something foolishly heroic
He said "Fuck you Mr Cheney"! Pick a side, pussy, you must curse or you must be polite.

perhaps he was trying to lighten the impact of such a unpatriotic statement with humour

And by the way ... I definitely do not appreciate your calling military police "Goons." I strongly suggest you not refer to any American military personnel as "Goons." :mad:
Or what?

Sorry, Eutrusca, but as much as I respect our servicemen and women, they don't get an automatic right to defference and neither does the vice-president, or the president -- any more than you or I. If someone's got a beef, they've got a right to say so, and if they think someone is acting as a goon, then "goon" is the word they should use. Or are civilians the only ones not allowed to be crybabies?

Even in that biased article, on a far left site ( BTW ), it was fairly well-established that this aleged "physician" was a leftist, or do you have some actual, like ... you know ... factual information that he's something else???
I have now read the article and I still haven't got anything on him that shows him to be part of the vast complex web of socialist thought known to some as "the left". So you have no more info than I do.

Could you give us examples of other such instances by "the far left" (i.e. people with guts to disagree with your Republican cronies)?

I rather liked Cheney's outburst on the Senate floor, we'd all live in a happier world if more people quit pretending that they liked each other and admitted that they were enemies.
On the other hand, the doctor got what he deserved for two (2) (zwei) reasons:
He was probably doing more than just speaking, and most likely the guards thought he might be about to do something foolishly heroic
He said "Fuck you Mr Cheney"! Pick a side, pussy, you must curse or you must be polite.
Honesty is definitely the best policy. :D

I dunno. Seems to be quite a bit of hubbub about nothing. Doc got to express his opinion & the boys with the guns did their normal routine - protecting the office of V.P. without regard to whoever ( be they asshole or saint or ... ) was holding the title at the time. As always.
No one got hurt.
And best of all, in a true showing of good 'ole American know how - doc found a way to get some money out of it. A laudable goal considering his present difficulties.
*Personally* I thought the method lacking in style. *I* would have mooned the V.P.

""Thanks to Dubya Gump and Mr. Cheney, gas is really expensive and extremely hard to get anywhere Katrina has destroyed," Marble wrote. "So needless to say, I was extremely aggravated that they wouldn't let me pass.""

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Okay this guy is an idiot so I think it is important we look at this. He's not credible. He thinks the Bush adminstration is responsible for high gas prices. This guy is a stooge.

""Thanks to Dubya Gump and Mr. Cheney, gas is really expensive and extremely hard to get anywhere Katrina has destroyed," Marble wrote. "So needless to say, I was extremely aggravated that they wouldn't let me pass.""

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Okay this guy is an idiot so I think it is important we look at this. He's not credible. He thinks the Bush adminstration is responsible for high gas prices. This guy is a stooge.

Who cares if he's credible? He told Cheney to go fuck himself. Kudos to him. It's a lot better than the equivalent of sucking Cheney's proverbial nutsack as some people are wont to do.

"Thanks to Dubya Gump and Mr. Cheney, gas is really expensive and extremely hard to get anywhere Katrina has destroyed," Marble wrote. "So needless to say, I was extremely aggravated that they wouldn't let me pass."
Well, at the very least we know this guy's a complete idiot. Not surprising really. He apparently doesn't understand that because of various enviro regs there have been basically no new oil refineries built for a long time. Thusly, the original refineries from when we were dependent mainly on our own oil are all concentrated on the gulf coast, the exact area hit by Katrina. What a surprise.

Who cares if he's credible? He told Cheney to go fuck himself. Kudos to him. It's a lot better than the equivalent of sucking Cheney's proverbial nutsack as some people are wont to do.

Kudos to him? Nah. I'd much rather not give that to someone who is clueless. So Mr. Marble can go fuck himself.

As he stood about 10 feet away from Cheney and his friend and some camera operators from CNN and other media filmed the scene, Marble suddenly yelled, "Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney! Go fuck yourself, you asshole!"

Hey, at least Marble was polite. After all, he referred to Cheney as “Mr. Cheney.”

"I had no intention of harming anyone but merely wanted to echo Mr. Cheney's infamous words back at him," Marble wrote. "At that moment, I noticed the Secret Service guys with a panic-stricken look on their faces, like they were about to tackle me, so I calmly walked away back to my former house."

His friend videotaped a little bit longer and then came back to Marble’s house. As they were salvaging a few things from Marble's home, two military police waving M-16's showed up and said they were looking
for someone who fit Marble's description who had cursed at Cheney.

"I told them I was probably the person they were looking for, and so they put me in handcuffs and 'detained' me for about 20 minutes or so," Marble wrote. "My right thumb went numb because the cuffs were on so tight, but they were fairly courteous and eventually released me after getting all my contact info. They said I had NOT broken any laws so I was free to go."



So whats the point ? He acted like an asshole and instead of getting his ass kicked like he would have in a bar or a gathering of his friends , he got a visit by guardsmen who cuffed him hung around for twenty minutes ( most likely laughing their asses odff because he called the boss names ) while they waited to see if he could or would be charged with anything by some pissed off public officials . What did he fucking expect a medal ? Cheers from the penut gallery ? A huge lawsuit and 15 minutes of fame on the news ? WTF ? You dont have to be a genius to read in between the lines .

He also tried to sell the interview his friend recorded on ebay as stated in the article, but the item had to be removed by e-bay. I quess that's illegal to sell, again call me dumb, but I myself have bought videos off e-bay before.

Ebay item #7712048060

And by the way ... I definitely do not appreciate your calling military police "Goons." I strongly suggest you not refer to any American military personnel as "Goons." :mad:


Yeah-I like that they are referred to as "goons". In following articles, they'll be referred to as "henchmen".

And they were "waving their M-16s". Just waving them around. :rolleyes:

So whats the point ? He acted like an asshole and instead of getting his ass kicked like he would have in a bar or a gathering of his friends , he got a visit by guardsmen who cuffed him hung around for twenty minutes ( most likely laughing their asses odff because he called the boss names ) while they waited to see if he could or would be charged with anything by some pissed off public officials . What did he fucking expect a medal ? Cheers from the penut gallery ? A huge lawsuit and 15 minutes of fame on the news ? WTF ? You dont have to be a genius to read in between the lines .

Wait till this cock gets together with a publisher and tries to make a movie about his half hour experience.
You've got a good point- If said this to me-or most other men- he would have been taken to his own ER afterwards to have his slack jaw set and his various contusions and abrasions attended to. And he wouldnt know the id of who was responsible. He actually picked a safe person to say this to.
Fuck him.

Yarr, many of ye be soundin like real scurvy sea-dogs! Especially when it comes to defense of this here american pirate ship, and the Dread Pirate Cheney, yarrr!

Wait till this cock gets together with a publisher and tries to make a movie about his half hour experience.
You've got a good point- If said this to me-or most other men- he would have been taken to his own ER afterwards to have his slack jaw set and his various contusions and abrasions attended to. And he wouldnt know the id of who was responsible. He actually picked a safe person to say this to.
Fuck him.
Why are you taking this so seriously? It's quite a funny incident.

Yarrr matey take notice of all ye liberal dogs amakin a fuss over it !

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=mr+marble+cursed+cheney&btnG=Search

it be quite the side splitter ! I hear the wenching be good on the other side yarrr I be headin over to the dark side to find out.. :D BRB hold me grog a bit .

I approve of the use of the word "goon". I just don't see it enough these days.

It makes me sad that the interaction of american citizens with their political representatives has disentigrated so. I don't care what your politics are, that kind of behavior is reprehensible. Frankly, this Marble guy should be ashamed of himself. If he wants to make a statement, fine - there are certainly more effective ways to do it. If he wants to make a difference he is going to have to get off his behind and run for office or something.

What difference would that make except to his wallet?

Seems like he got off easily to me. I think they just kept him handcuffed until Cheney had left the area, or maybe to protect him from Cheney. I mean 20 minutes? No big deal. And what what it seems the officers didn't really care that he cursed Cheney because if they had they wouldn't have been courteous they would have been rude. I bet they were just glad to do something, even babysitting a guy who pissed of Cheney.

Exactly, everyone who uses the F word is dangerous and should be treated with suspicion.

What??? He would certainly have to take a pay cut if he ran for office.

Exactly, everyone who uses the F word is dangerous and should be treated with suspicion.Oh, fuck!

Why are you taking this so seriously? It's quite a funny incident.

I'm not, my friend. I guess it is funny. I decided I dont like the guy so its easy for me to get aggravated reading about it.
There is also the point that he wouldnt have gotten off this easily if he said it to an average Joe on the street.

But, now you're talking to a guy who had a water gun and shot a NY state congressman with water while he gave a commencement address at my high school graduation 20 something years ago.

Thanks for reminding me I was taking things seriously though. I do usually make a joke about almost anything.

It makes me sad that the interaction of american citizens with their political representatives has disentigrated so. I don't care what your politics are, that kind of behavior is reprehensible. Frankly, this Marble guy should be ashamed of himself. If he wants to make a statement, fine - there are certainly more effective ways to do it. If he wants to make a difference he is going to have to get off his behind and run for office or something.


I wouldnt care if he yelled something like "How are you helping us?" or "Where were you?", -he yelled-maybe out of frustration, but more a stupid stunt. Hes trying to be a doctor-you think he'd have a little more class or express himself in a way to be more effective?

Sometimes the simple approach is the best one. :D

Why are you taking this so seriously? It's quite a funny incident.
It's because they're in love with Cheney. He's very masculine, but, you know, damaged. They're just standing by their man. Romantic.

Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad:

Right on! Next time he should do it the American way! Steal a gun, form a militia and shot Cheney to shit! That's what Dick Cheney woulda done, by god!

hi, my name is moron. whenever i hear particular words, i get my panties all in a twist, and i don't really know why! something must be wrong with me! come to think of it, all of your words offend me. could we please stop communicating? i'm very offended by all adjectives, interjections, nouns, pronouns, adverbs, gerunds...

on another note, what if he had taken a supposedly "less crude" approach, and began spouting off points a, b, c, and d he had to make? well, i'm sure we wouldn't have ever even heard of mr. marble. more effective ways? well, i don't know about that!

Sometimes the simple approach is the best one. :D
More often the "simple approach" is the only one "simple people" can think of. :D

More often the "simple approach" is the only one "simple people" can think of. :DAnd you think spitting on Jane Fonda would be complicated? :p

More often the "simple approach" is the only one "simple people" can think of. :D

I think a pie-throwing in the name of Al Pieda would have been more appreciated.

Well, at the very least we know this guy's a complete idiot. Not surprising really. He apparently doesn't understand that because of various enviro regs there have been basically no new oil refineries built for a long time. Thusly, the original refineries from when we were dependent mainly on our own oil are all concentrated on the gulf coast, the exact area hit by Katrina. What a surprise.
Precisely. But don't try to explain that on here. Please don't confuse them with the facts; their minds were made up long, long ago. :(

And you think spitting on Jane Fonda would be complicated? :p
Nope. And if you're suggesting somehow that I would spit on the dishonorable Ms. Hanoi Jane, you are sadly mistaken.

Nope. And if you're suggesting somehow that I would spit on the dishonorable Ms. Hanoi Jane, you are sadly mistaken.Sorry. I forgot that you hadn't told us what you'd planned to do to her...
My mistake and apologies.

It's because they're in love with Cheney. He's very masculine, but, you know, damaged. They're just standing by their man. Romantic.


Dont annoy me, boy.

Nope. And if you're suggesting somehow that I would spit on the dishonorable Ms. Hanoi Jane, you are sadly mistaken.


How about a nice, well placed snot-rocket?

I'm bush like. People shouldn't say bad things about my good friend dick. And its not Mr. Cheney its Vice President Cheney. Cheney would never say such a bad thing even if it was to a "laberal" senator. Cheney is doing a good job, just like Micheal Brown was, he quite only because of "laberals". "Earl" prices are not as high as everyone thinks they are. I think the guy would told cheney that may be a "tourist", and "tourist" threats are no laughing matter. If that doctor wants to do some good he will Bush in 08'. Thats all.

since when is it a 'cuff-able' offence to express ones self in such a manner?

Don't know where you're from, but here in the US of A they can detain you for 24 hours without charging you.

I'm a BIG fan of free speech. I also can understand the Secret Service wanting to question the guy. Frankly, I don't see the reason for the cuffs. But in the big picture of things, what do you suppose would happen to someone who told the VP of most nations to go "f" himself would have happen to them?

The protestor certainly has more balls and less sense than I do...

Nope. And if you're suggesting somehow that I would spit on the dishonorable Ms. Hanoi Jane, you are sadly mistaken.

I might would...

Dont annoy me, boy.
Aw, c'mon, don't be shy. You must admit he's manly. God knows, he'd make an ugly woman.

EDIT: PS: girl. This way you can choose more appropriate epithets. ;)

since when is it a 'cuff-able' offence to express ones self in such a manner?

They had to be sure he was not a threat to the Vice President.
I would take "Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney! Go fuck yourself, you asshole!" as a threat, the guy was angry and some angry people act with violence.
He made a decision and the consequence was being detaind for 20 minutes. Nothing is free. He paid 20 minutes.





The story from Ben Marble himself. (http://hurricanekatrinasucked.com/_wsn/page2.html)

Look at where he lived, photo at bottom of page.
I am sorry for all those who lost homes, jobs, and most of all family and friends, but what do you expect when you live that close to the water in a hurricane prone area.

And do not flame me on this. My grandmother lost her home to Francis last year and she lived several miles inland. 3 weeks later Jean destroyed what little was left.

They had to be sure he was not a threat to the Vice President.
I would take "Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney! Go fuck yourself, you asshole!" as a threat, the guy was angry and some angry people act with violence.
He made a decision and the consequence was being detaind for 20 minutes. Nothing is free. He paid 20 minutes.
Okay, I'll ask it again:

If "go fuck yourself" is a threat, then why didn't Cheney get a 20 minute time out (with kinky cuffs) for saying the exact same thing to Pat Leahy?

Hm? Well? Anyone?

Feh! You're all a bunch of pantywaists. Grow up already. Bottom line: The guy mouthed off, got scuffled out of the way, and Cheney is all ego and no fun. And for that alone, he can go fuck himself.

Okay, I'll ask it again:

If "go fuck yourself" is a threat, then why didn't Cheney get a 20 minute time out (with kinky cuffs) for saying the exact same thing to Pat Leahy?

Hm? Well? Anyone?

Feh! You're all a bunch of pantywaists. Grow up already. Bottom line: The guy mouthed off, got scuffled out of the way, and Cheney is all ego and no fun. And for that alone, he can go fuck himself.

Because if you yell something at the Vice president there could be a reaction from security or the surrounding crowd. I mean what would happen if he had said that and in the resulting panic someone got trampled? Cheney saying the same thing to Pat Leahy has less of a chance for the situation to go out of control. You can not yell fire in a crowded theater and this is basically the same reasoning used here.

Okay, I'll ask it again:

If "go fuck yourself" is a threat, then why didn't Cheney get a 20 minute time out (with kinky cuffs) for saying the exact same thing to Pat Leahy?

Hm? Well? Anyone?

Feh! You're all a bunch of pantywaists. Grow up already. Bottom line: The guy mouthed off, got scuffled out of the way, and Cheney is all ego and no fun. And for that alone, he can go fuck himself.

Sorry to tell you, but I am not weak or effeminate. Perhaps you are.

Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad:

Dude, he lost his house. I'd be a little angry too.

Dude, he lost his house. I'd be a little angry too.

I'd be pissed off too but I wouldnt be going to an airport and yelling BOMB or say to a movie theater and yelling FIRE.

I'd be pissed off too but I wouldnt be going to an airport and yelling BOMB or say to a movie theater and yelling FIRE.

But we're not talking about yelling BOMB at an airport or yelling FIRE in a theatre, we're talking about yelling "fuck you" to a politician who can't take a joke.

I don't condone this action, but...honestly...I can understand it.

I'd be pissed off too but I wouldnt be going to an airport and yelling BOMB or say to a movie theater and yelling FIRE.
Well now, He didn't quite do that. As far as I can make out a rather disgruntled fellow yelled an opinion at an elected representative of the people. I once suggested to Maggie Thatcher that the country would be better off without her. All she did was give me a slightly odd look and move on to wherever she was going. A few moments later a chap from her entourage came back to speak to me "Excuse me sir, but whilst the Prime Minister appreciates that you have freedom of speech, it is perhaps a good idea not to be too rude to her. Thank you, and I hope your legs gets better soon", he touched his hat and was gone. Mind you the fact that almost nobody in Britain goes around with armed guards may make such an occurrence in Britain rather unlikely.
Anyway, this thread is filled with reactionary comments. This doctor chap said something rather rude to your Vice President, and while you may or may not agree with his sentiments (I can see where he was coming from, but I feel that the use of the F word may have increased the effect, but lowed the tone, a simple "Well your doing a lot to help now aren't you? Now there are no bodies floating down the street, no people trapped in houses." would have sufficed) it has happened. Discussion, end of.

But we're not talking about yelling BOMB at an airport or yelling FIRE in a theatre, we're talking about yelling "fuck you" to a politician who can't take a joke.

I don't condone this action, but...honestly...I can understand it.

This isn't just a random politician we are talking about here. This is the Vice President of the United Freaking States here. I understand that the guy is frustrated and that he has gone through a lot of shit. But I mean come on you don't start yelling at a high security offical and expect to walk away from that. Do I think the guy will be sent to jail no but do not condone what he did.

This isn't just a random politician we are talking about here. This is the Vice President of the United Freaking States here. I understand that the guy is frustrated and that he has gone through a lot of shit. But I mean come on you don't start yelling at a high security offical and expect to walk away from that. Do I think the guy will be sent to jail no but do not condone what he did.
Oh come on, he is your elected representative. One of the founding principles of such a system is accountability. The politician is still just another person, and freedom of speech (which I believe is garenteed in your Constatution) still applies when speaking too him. If you can not express your opinion just because the person hapens to be very rich and powerful then you do not have freedom of speech.
Mind you every time I am in the US I am amazed at the reaction when newspapers acctually critise the goverment. It seems that freedom of the press is getting slightly oppressed under your currant regi... sorry administration.

Thanks for reminding me I was taking things seriously though. I do usually make a joke about almost anything.
Indeed, I knew something wasn't right when I read that grim "Fuck Him." Mind you, I do think that the guards/goons/police/whatever were of course correct to hold him for the duration of Cheney's speech. They have to be cautious.

Sorry. I forgot that you hadn't told us what you'd planned to do to her...
My mistake and apologies.
Nor will I.

You'll have to read about it on the evening news. ;)

Oh come on, he is your elected representative. One of the founding principles of such a system is accountability. The politician is still just another person, and freedom of speech (which I believe is garenteed in your Constatution) still applies when speaking too him. If you can not express your opinion just because the person hapens to be very rich and powerful then you do not have freedom of speech.
Mind you every time I am in the US I am amazed at the reaction when newspapers acctually critise the goverment. It seems that freedom of the press is getting slightly oppressed under your currant regi... sorry administration.

Once again there is a difference between a elected official telling another to **** off in the senate then you have some random guy yelling something at the Vice President in a crowd. You do have your right to free speech here but there is a responsibility that comes with it. I'm just as critical of the current president as this guy is and yet I would never dream of yelling something derogatory at them in a crowded public place. If I am in the movie theather and I start yelling out curses securtiy is going to escort me out. If I am in a public place and I start making a scene the police are going to do something. Oh and nice try on the regime thing but I'm free to do what I want as long as it does not hurt anyone else. And the media seems fine by me. I get the full spectrum of news and I'm in the heart of the current administration. So the regime thing is bullshit.

Dude, he lost his house. I'd be a little angry too.
But ... would you blame Dick Chaney???

Mind you, I do think that the guards/goons/police/whatever were of course correct to hold him for the duration of Cheney's speech. They have to be cautious.
Yes of course, he was a dangerous lunatic who might have spoken out, contradicting Cheney or even doing something terrible, unthinkable... say what everyone is really thinking! Dun dun durrr!

More often the "simple approach" is the only one "simple people" can think of. :D
Like Cheney?

Nope. And if you're suggesting somehow that I would spit on the dishonorable Ms. Hanoi Jane, you are sadly mistaken.
Didn't you congratulate some dude who did just that? Your partisanship and double standards are shining gleefully through in this thread like I haven't seen for uhh, at least a week!

Yes of course, he was a dangerous lunatic who might have spoken out, contradicting Cheney or even doing something terrible, unthinkable... say what everyone is really thinking! Dun dun durrr!
Make no mistake, I have no problems with what he said. But I if were the security guard I would cuff him just to be on the same side. They couldn't know what he might do.

Once again there is a difference between a elected official telling another to **** off in the senate then you have some random guy yelling something at the Vice President in a crowd. You do have your right to free speech here but there is a responsibility that comes with it. I'm just as critical of the current president as this guy is and yet I would never dream of yelling something derogatory at them in a crowded public place. If I am in the movie theather and I start yelling out curses securtiy is going to escort me out. If I am in a public place and I start making a scene the police are going to do something. Oh and nice try on the regime thing but I'm free to do what I want as long as it does not hurt anyone else. And the media seems fine by me. I get the full spectrum of news and I'm in the heart of the current administration. So the regime thing is bullshit.
OK the regime thing was a vague attempt at satire...
As for the full freedoms, perhaps you could tell me about the US Patriot Act?
The press bit I am comparing to the press of various different countries, almost all of which seem to have a bit more free-reign when it comes to certain stories. Admittied the Washington Post and the New York Times do occationally run embarrasing stories etc, but It has seemed to me that either the newspaper writers are getting softer or there is some political pressure on the papers publishers etc.

Oh and the regime bullshit bit... wrong. Bullshit I have in several tons on various fields around my estate.

Make no mistake, I have no problems with what he said. But I if were the security guard I would cuff him just to be on the same side. They couldn't know what he might do.
Well OK. But if this chap had walked away, how dangerous was he? I mean really! If he was 200 yards or whatever up the road, he would most likely be out of earshot and out of any possible area of danger to Mr. Cheney. If the story is to be believed in the entirety the fellow went back to his ruined house and started cleaning up and removing personal effects, that can hardly be construed as a dangerous thing to do.

Didn't you congratulate some dude who did just that? Your partisanship and double standards are shining gleefully through in this thread like I haven't seen for uhh, at least a week!

Nah, you made a thread about his sig today so it was more like an hour.

I really don't see why he was arrested for yelling at anyone on live, national tv.

Hell, if I went downtown Toronto and managed to get some time on air at much music and called someone a dick, they might cut me off and be like "what the fuck?" but arresting me would be out of the question. Seriously, how stupid is that? He said "Fuck you, Mr Cheney" and somehow this means he can be arrested? Want to know how many people I've randomly told to fuck right off?

Yeah ... him too! Although I don't recall him being a fuckin' crybaby like this aleged "physician" was. As far as I'm concerned, whinning and crying about the consequences you know will follow an act for which you can reasonably expect to be at least questioned is nothing less than extreme childishness. This seems to be a regular pattern followed by the far left: do something you know will land you in trouble, then whine and cry about the "evil, oppressive goons" who question you.

If you can't stand the frakkin' heat, get yer sorry ass outta the kitchen!
Post #4 on THIS THREAD .... :rolleyes:

Exactly, everyone who uses the F word is dangerous and should be treated with suspicion.
You mean Farfegnugen?

Why was this guy arrested?

1)The area is under martial law, the law is what is determined by the military, and generally cursing out a government offical out of the blue isnt something you do when where you are at is under martial law. If this story is true, the man is a moron.

2)This guy went to start something. Cheney is there to rally the folks or whatever the hell he was up to, and he went up and started a problem. Hey guess what, go up a cop in the street scream fuck you in their face and see if you arent arrested, or roughed up by the cop as he pats you down..you think it'll get better because you did that to the Vice Pres of the US?

3)When Cheney said Fuck you on the floor of the Senate it was at least during an arguement. This guy did it because he didnt like Cheney. I cant feel sorry for this guy. You pick a fight, you get what you ask for.

"I told them I was probably the person they were looking for, and so they put me in handcuffs and 'detained' me for about 20 minutes or so," Marble wrote. "My right thumb went numb because the cuffs were on so tight, but they were fairly courteous and eventually released me after getting all my contact info. They said I had NOT broken any laws so I was free to go."

So let’s get this straight: A physician with a newborn baby loses most everything he owns in the hurricane, does what most of us WANT to do and “echoes” Cheney’s words he spoke on the Senate floor last year, walks away harmlessly, mission accomplished, and then once the media cameras leave, he is treated like a foreign terrorist as Cheney’s goons waving M-16s handcuff him in front of his destroyed home? Had it not been for the media cameras filming the initial scene, I doubt Cheney’s goons would have just let Marble go after 20 minutes.

I think your blowing this way out of proportion. It seems to me that the Secret Service was just taking precautions...making sure he wasn't actually going to fuck Mr. Cheney or something in the asshole.

Getting some information from a guy and freeing him in 20 minutes is a joke compared to how we handle forgein terrorists. Relax. No one's freedoms are being destroyed. Not to say that I'm defending Cheney here. I'm just defending reality. The man himself seemed to not be entirely pissed about being cuffed for a few minutes.

I mean really, let's focus on blaming the government for the fuck-ups they are doing and not victimizing heroes.

What we all seem to be forgetting here is that Cheney's outburst was in the middle of a Senate session, which is broadcast live on AT LEAST two television channels.

Yes, it may not have been a great idea to walk up to the 2nd in command of the nation and start using profanity, but heck, if they didn't think he was enough of a threat to jump him then and there, that should have been the end of it.

As far as I know, there are no laws against using a profane statement to get one's point across. It shouldn't matter whether the target is the VP or a bum under the bridge, since, according to this nation's foundation, "All men are created equal." Let's see. He got into his position of power because of the voting public. If it weren't for the general public, Cheney would be a regualr American citizen, which says to me that he shouldn't be treated any differently.

If things continue this way, who knows what may be next? Someone may get thrown into Guantanamo Bay for neglecting to bow to Dubya.

I really don't see why he was arrested for yelling at anyone on live, national tv.

Hell, if I went downtown Toronto and managed to get some time on air at much music and called someone a dick, they might cut me off and be like "what the fuck?" but arresting me would be out of the question. Seriously, how stupid is that? He said "Fuck you, Mr Cheney" and somehow this means he can be arrested? Want to know how many people I've randomly told to fuck right off?

He was not arrested. He was detained for questioning.

What we all seem to be forgetting here is that Cheney's outburst was in the middle of a Senate session, which is broadcast live on AT LEAST two television channels.

Yes, it may not have been a great idea to walk up to the 2nd in command of the nation and start using profanity, but heck, if they didn't think he was enough of a threat to jump him then and there, that should have been the end of it.

As far as I know, there are no laws against using a profane statement to get one's point across. It shouldn't matter whether the target is the VP or a bum under the bridge, since, according to this nation's foundation, "All men are created equal." Let's see. He got into his position of power because of the voting public. If it weren't for the general public, Cheney would be a regualr American citizen, which says to me that he shouldn't be treated any differently.

If things continue this way, who knows what may be next? Someone may get thrown into Guantanamo Bay for neglecting to bow to Dubya.

The guy was agressive, agression can turn into violence. He was questioned and was found to not pose a threat to the Vice president.

Hawkintom']Don't know where you're from, but here in the US of A they can detain you for 24 hours without charging you.

I'm a BIG fan of free speech. I also can understand the Secret Service wanting to question the guy. Frankly, I don't see the reason for the cuffs. But in the big picture of things, what do you suppose would happen to someone who told the VP of most nations to go "f" himself would have happen to them?

The protestor certainly has more balls and less sense than I do...

Ireland, I once told an police person to fuck himself, i spent a few hours in a smelly shit stained cell, however if I told a passing Political figure to go fuck himself, i doubt if anything would happen (the exception of course being the SF/IRA politicians, then I might end up dead), this i believe is due to the attention the story would gather.

1. Not all Politians have a sese of humour
2. Not all cursing is the same
2. Not all Police/Military are Goons
3. Not everyone who curses is a threat
and most important of all
4. some doctors are not to classy

Thank you one and all for your contributions :)

1. Not all Politians have a sese of humour
2. Not all cursing is the same
2. Not all Police/Military are Goons
3. Not everyone who curses is a threat
and most important of all
4. some doctors are not to classy

Thank you one and all for your contributions :)
You got THAT shit right, bro! [ high fives! ] :D

Awwww. Poor BABY!

Moral of this story: If you want to act like an asshole, be prepared to accept the consequences, preferably without whinning and being a fuckin' crybaby! :mad:

Yeah! I mean if that man thinks he has a right to free speech, he's got another thing coming!

The bloody subversive is damned lucky he was not put up against a wall and shot! Or just sent to a gas chamber! He has to accept the consequences of thinking he had the right to free speech!


The silly bloke! Who does he think he is expressing freedom of speech? A free man expressing his view in what he thought was a democratic society? Talk about taking a liberty!

Punish the sod! He has to accept the consequences!

Because if you yell something at the Vice president there could be a reaction from security or the surrounding crowd. I mean what would happen if he had said that and in the resulting panic someone got trampled? Cheney saying the same thing to Pat Leahy has less of a chance for the situation to go out of control. You can not yell fire in a crowded theater and this is basically the same reasoning used here.
"The resulting panic"? :confused: What -- of people terrified Cheney might try to follow the guy's suggestion? Now there's a scene to imagine.

Sorry to tell you, but I am not weak or effeminate. Perhaps you are.
Defensive, at all?

As for me, I am relatively weak, and I would be effeminate too, if I was a guy. Since I'm a woman, the word is feminine.

The guy was agressive, agression can turn into violence. He was questioned and was found to not pose a threat to the Vice president.

You're being contrary. Contraryness can lead to violence. I ask that you turn yourself in for questioning.

A million dollar question for Cheney and people who defended him in this thread: What's the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution?

This isn't just a random politician we are talking about here. This is the Vice President of the United Freaking States here. I understand that the guy is frustrated and that he has gone through a lot of shit. But I mean come on you don't start yelling at a high security offical and expect to walk away from that. Do I think the guy will be sent to jail no but do not condone what he did.
Who cares if it's the frickin' vice-president? Who cares if it's Bush himself? They're nothing -- less than nothing -- they're politicians. A dime a dozen, interchangeable, they get switched out every 4 years. Yet here you all are, simply scandalized, gathering up your petticoats and huffing "Well, I never!! The effrontery!!", like somebody kicked your favorite poodle. Get a grip, will you? Cheney himself wasn't this pissed off about it. Sheesh.

And here's the last thing I'm going to say about this mess of a thread: How embarrassing is it that it takes a Brit and a Canadian to point out how subservient you're all acting? This is the USA, for god's sake! As far as I'm concerned, US politicians should not speak until spoken to, and when a citizen says jump, they should say, how high, sir? The hell with Cheney. The twerp needs to know his place.

Fact: Guy cursed out Cheney.
Fact: Security scuffled him away (audible on video tape); he went away.
Fact: Security followed him and gave him a hard time for half an hour -- uncalled for, but done.
Fact: The free world has not collapsed as a result, but you wouldn't know it to listen to all you sycophants.

Sorry to tell you, but I am not weak or effeminate. Perhaps you are



Defensive, at all?

As for me, I am relatively weak, and I would be effeminate too, if I was a guy. Since I'm a woman, the word is feminine.

Delgrad serves his insult weakly to the open court. It bounces like a day-old herring. Muravyets returns it with a smash. Oooooh pwned!!

This isn't just a random politician we are talking about here. This is the Vice President of the United Freaking States here. I understand that the guy is frustrated and that he has gone through a lot of shit. But I mean come on you don't start yelling at a high security offical and expect to walk away from that. Do I think the guy will be sent to jail no but do not condone what he did.

When our country was forming, George Washington was practically handed kingship on a silver platter. He demurred. He also, when he probably could have been President for life, gave it up after only 2 terms.

Why? Because all men are created equal, and Washington didn't even want the appearance of royalty,

All men are created equal.

Therefore, this royal treatment of Cheney is crap, and the Bush-Conservatives who seem to want red carpets and rose petals to grace the path that the Republican leadership treads need to grow up and realize that these jerkoffs work for us. Cheney is our employee, we pay his wages.

If Cheney is going to do a photo op next to ruined homes where people have good reason to question the response from all levels of government, he's gotta expect a little tongue-lashing. Period. If HE can't stand the heat, HE should get out of politics.

perhaps he was trying to lighten the impact of such a unpatriotic statement with humour


I see nothing unpatriotic about it.

Being an American means you have the right to express your discontent with your leaders freely (so long as it doesn't incite hate or cause harm. There is nothing wrong with telling Cheney to go fuck himself). That's partly why there was a great big Revolution and all....

And by the way ... I definitely do not appreciate your calling military police "Goons." I strongly suggest you not refer to any American military personnel as "Goons." :mad:
… if the shoe fits

I don’t think they were acting in an overly inappropriate manner in this case so I would not have chosen goons

But in other situations I might

Being in the military does not give you a “get out of jail free” card and there is a difference between following procedure and being an ass and a goon … in this case I think they were just following orders … but not so in all cases

I don't think the bodyguards over-reacted. Cheney, regardless of what you think of him, is the vice-president of the US. And that means he merits alot of protection. So if someone comes close to him and swears, his protection squad need to check the offender out to make sure he's not planning to do anything more than just that. They were only doing their job - ensuring the VP of the USA is not under any danger.
The guy got off lightly - they detained him until they saw he wasn't a threat, merely disgruntled and then let him go. Big deal.


Personally, I thought the funniest bit of the clip wasn't the 'Go fuck yourself Mr Cheney!', but the reporter asking Cheney in all seriousness if he gets that a lot. Now THAT'S classic reporting.

I don't think the bodyguards over-reacted. Cheney, regardless of what you think of him, is the vice-president of the US. And that means he merits alot of protection. So if someone comes close to him and swears, his protection squad need to check the offender out to make sure he's not planning to do anything more than just that. They were only doing their job - ensuring the VP of the USA is not under any danger.
The guy got off lightly - they detained him until they saw he wasn't a threat, merely disgruntled and then let him go. Big deal.


Personally, I thought the funniest bit of the clip wasn't the 'Go fuck yourself Mr Cheney!', but the reporter asking Cheney in all seriousness if he gets that a lot. Now THAT'S classic reporting.

I think that's exactly the point. I think it's necessary for them to verify that this man and his actions were harmless. They did. This story could easily be just the opposite. This guy comes up and curses at Cheney and they do nothing. Later he shoots Cheney and everyone is up in arms wondering why they didn't even question him when he verbally attacked Cheney. They didn't limit his freedom of speech. They merely checked him out to be certain he presented no danger and collected his information in case of a future issue. Even by the admission of the doctor, they mp's were polite and told him that he'd broken no laws. I suspect that if he'd suddenly interrupted the speech to shout out that he was infatuated with Cheney and wanted to bear his children that he would have been similarly questioned. They were simply ensuring the safety of our VP.

Delgrad serves his insult weakly to the open court. It bounces like a day-old herring. Muravyets returns it with a smash. Oooooh pwned!!
Muravyets raises racket gratefully to knowledgable spectators.

(I know, I know, I said I was washing my hands of this thread, but I can't help myself. I just have too much fun pointing out how common and worthless Cheney is. :D )

Personally, I thought the funniest bit of the clip wasn't the 'Go fuck yourself Mr Cheney!', but the reporter asking Cheney in all seriousness if he gets that a lot. Now THAT'S classic reporting.
Exactly! I laughed my ass off. Maybe there should be a "Do you get this joke?" thread.