Antarctica
If someone made a serious claim of sovereignty on Antarctica and started to seriously colonize it, would any country dispute it?
The South Islands
19-09-2005, 02:44
Who would want to colonize Antarctica?
If someone made a serious claim of sovereignty on Antarctica and started to seriously colonize it, would any country dispute it?probably... alot of countries have claims on sections of Antartica.
Yea but who would want to waste their time with Antarctica other than my hypothetical crazy people called exomnians.
Iztatepopotla
19-09-2005, 02:47
If someone made a serious claim of sovereignty on Antarctica and started to seriously colonize it, would any country dispute it?
Sure they would. The Antarctic Treaty signataries would have something to say.
But why would they care, as long as this hypothetical country didn't kill scientists or penguins I don't really see why they would waste the resources.
Iztatepopotla
19-09-2005, 03:12
But why would they care, as long as this hypothetical country didn't kill scientists or penguins I don't really see why they would waste the resources.
Aaah, there may not be much on it, but the claims are just in case there's something under it.
I wonder if I could buy a massive amount of land in Antarctica from some government and in a hundred years have it be worth a fortune.
well Australia owns about 50% of antartcia so they would be your best bet
Robot ninja pirates
19-09-2005, 03:45
Unless penguin suddenly became a popular dish, I doubt anyone would dispute it, as long as you were quiet. It's not like there are any natural resources down there.
Schrandtopia
19-09-2005, 03:47
several countries already claim parts of antartica and I'm pround to say that if you look on a map you'll find that America simultaneously violates all the other countries claims!
several countries already claim parts of antartica and I'm pround to say that if you look on a map you'll find that America simultaneously violates all the other countries claims!
We don’t acknowledge the Antarctic Treaty, I believe. Could be wrong, though.
Iztatepopotla
19-09-2005, 03:51
several countries already claim parts of antartica and I'm pround to say that if you look on a map you'll find that America simultaneously violates all the other countries claims!
All countries that laid claims on Antarctica have signed the treaty, meaning they won't push those claims (although they don't renounce them) and all other countries can establish scientific bases on the continent.
So the US is not violating anything and no country owns a single square centimeter of the continent. By that same token, no one can buy any piece of land of Antarctica.
Iztatepopotla
19-09-2005, 03:52
We don’t acknowledge the Antarctic Treaty, I believe. Could be wrong, though.
The US not only acknowledges the treaty, they're one of the main signataries, and also one of the main sponsors for it.
I just read a book on Shackelton
anyone that would want to live their is a fool
antarctica is made up of shifting ice blocks called "floes" these floes melt or slam into each other
in the book they had to move every few weeks b/c they would melt
also there is huge ice walls
and its freaking cold as eskimo shit
also
no food
Monkeypimp
19-09-2005, 03:56
If anyone's wondering:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/Antarctica.jpg
I think it should be left to whatever country is closest to each piece :p
thats wonderful the argentines and chileans got screwed on that deal....they have the Wedell Sea one of the most dangerous places in the world....shackelton and his crew of 28 men sailed it in 3 20 foot long boats...the only men to do that succesfully
Iztatepopotla
19-09-2005, 03:59
If anyone's wondering:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/Antarctica.jpg
I think it should be left to whatever country is closest to each piece :p
Hey, there's a piece no one's claimed. Dibs!
Swabians
19-09-2005, 04:03
Unless penguin suddenly became a popular dish, I doubt anyone would dispute it, as long as you were quiet. It's not like there are any natural resources down there.
I thought there was tons of oil and natural gases down there?
I think people would be ticked if someone owned and colonized antarctica
Antikythera
19-09-2005, 05:20
" if i had the time and was not still in high school i would start a country down there...it could be lots of fun
Antarcticas Natural Resources: iron ore, chromium, copper, gold, nickel, platinum and other minerals, and coal and hydrocarbons have been found in small uncommercial quantities; none presently exploited; krill, finfish, and crab have been taken by commercial fisheries. (CIA World Factbook)
If someone made a serious claim of sovereignty on Antarctica and started to seriously colonize it, would any country dispute it?I'm pretty sure the only reason why Argentina and the UK aren't at eachothers throats is because neither of them have tried. That said, there isn't really much that would interest the non-polar scientist in Antarctica.
Unified Sith
19-09-2005, 13:12
I'm pretty sure the only reason why Argentina and the UK aren't at eachothers throats is because neither of them have tried. That said, there isn't really much that would interest the non-polar scientist in Antarctica.
I beg to differ, Antarctica is one of the planets greatest treasures, and has been providing the entire scientific community with vital evidence regarding many many fields. This most often comes in the nature of Ice Cores which records the planets atmospheric changes through time, which has subsequently provided the basis for the global warming theory, evolution through fossil evidence, and just tonnes of other neat geological theories :). Antarctica is also, undoubtedly rich in Oil, since the whole thing was covered in dense tropical rain forest once upon a time.
Antarctica also provides the planet with a rare area in which dangerous research can be carried out far away from populated areas.
The climate may be detrimental to human health, however that is changing. Our equipment is getting better, our clothing superior, it won’t be long until humans can walk about the southern continent with impunity.
On another note, if the Argentineans think for one moments that they’re getting a bit of British Antarctica, well…….
Jeruselem
19-09-2005, 13:21
If someone made a serious claim of sovereignty on Antarctica and started to seriously colonize it, would any country dispute it?
I wouldn't claim the bits being melted into the sea due to global warming.
Fadester
19-09-2005, 14:46
If anyone's wondering:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/Antarctica.jpg
I think it should be left to whatever country is closest to each piece :p
Bloody godamn Kiwis...lol...
If things get desperate then someone might try to force the issue on Antartica. From what I've heard, there are large oil and coal deposits on Antartica but we don't touch them for the envirmental impact on the planet for all scientists say how important the ice continent is on our weather patterns and such. Really though from what i remember the Antartic Treaty was mainly issued to prevent countries from putting military bases there.
Jeruselem
19-09-2005, 14:58
Between Australia and New Zealand, we've got about half the place! :)
I just read a book on Shackelton
anyone that would want to live their is a fool
antarctica is made up of shifting ice blocks called "floes" these floes melt or slam into each other
in the book they had to move every few weeks b/c they would melt
also there is huge ice walls
and its freaking cold as eskimo shit
also
no food
The Nazis would've disagreed with you (of course they would, since they were stupid). They sent an expedition that "found" hot springs and grasslands (or was it moss? anyway...).
And there was this Chilean diplomat who claimed that the place is refuge to Hitler (and Elvis, I suppose). There, he is in touch with aliens who will ensure the re-emergence of Nazism with a fleet of UFOs that would take over the world.
Eutrusca
19-09-2005, 15:18
All countries that laid claims on Antarctica have signed the treaty, meaning they won't push those claims (although they don't renounce them) and all other countries can establish scientific bases on the continent.
So the US is not violating anything and no country owns a single square centimeter of the continent. By that same token, no one can buy any piece of land of Antarctica.
I was going to post that, but you saved me the trouble.
It is my sincere hope that we ( humans ) can do the same thing with all off-Earth property.
Caribel II
19-09-2005, 15:25
I'm Sure America would like to put it's death camps in Antartcica.
Qwerty Lands
19-09-2005, 23:45
Chilean, Argentine, and British claims all overlap somewhat?
What's going on, there?
Frangland
19-09-2005, 23:51
Who would want to colonize Antarctica?
millions of years from now, when penguins and man have merged to form the Manguin... someone will want to colonize Antarctica.
Frangland
19-09-2005, 23:53
I'm Sure America would like to put it's death camps in Antartcica.
yeah, actually, i wouldn't mind it if we started sending terrorists there. they could learn the fine art of ice-fishing.
We could run a huge "You terrorize innocent people, you end up here (pic of antarctica)" publicity campaign around the world.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
19-09-2005, 23:58
I'm Sure America would like to put it's death camps in Antartcica.
Oh no, that is where we are putting the Super Secret Death Ray Mk III, the death camps are going in various scattered places that no one cares about, such as Canada, Sweden, Belgium, and Paraguay. Someone might ask how you can have the death camps be secret when they take up whole countries, to which the best concealment plan has been to change the names of those various countries to "Super Happytime Fun Land" and put up pictures of smiling clowns on the barbed wire fences.
Iztatepopotla
20-09-2005, 00:30
... to which the best concealment plan has been to change the names of those various countries to "Super Happytime Fun Land" and put up pictures of smiling clowns on the barbed wire fences.
Yaay!! Can I go?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
20-09-2005, 00:45
Yaay!! Can I go?
If you eat your vegetables and finish that "BUSH IS T3H SUXX0RZ!!!1!1" sign in time for the protest tomorrow, Timmy. Or should I say Prisoner #382563-96824824?