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The govenator has sighned a bill banning Junk food in California Schools. Does any one think this will help with child hood obesity?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4251928.stm

It can't hurt.

It may not help, because that begins in the home. but it certainly won't hurt.

Antre_Travarious']It may not help, because that begins in the home. but it certainly won't hurt.
This was done at some school area in Alabama years ago, that area of the state has some of the lowest obesity rates in the country, much less the state. it may start at home but school food is artery clogging.

If more, it will only increase child obesity. Children will go longer periods without their favourite junk food, and begin binging once they get home. Soon enough the parents will mostly likely attempt to convince or force the kids to not eat them at all, where at that point it will be all sneaked in, getting the kids in more shit.

So no, it won't help.

For the kids who eat breakfast and lunch at school it will be very helpful but for the kids who bring lunch to school it wont do much. It should be very good for the poor kids who get the majority of their meals at school.

No. The problem is at home; parents are primarily responsible for the feeding of their kids, so they are the ones who buy all of this unhealthy food and give it to them, often without much other choice. Obesity isn't going to be fixed unless parents take responsibility.

I agree with keeping junk food from being sold at school, but their parents shoudl be able to send junk food to school with them if they want.

Kids who eat healthier will be better able to keep up during physical education plus I hear healthy eating helps with concentration and the like, so it should help them with their studies as well.


All the caffine in soda is probably one of the reasons kids can't sit still in class.

its a start,but if kids arent allowed eat junk food in school some will eat nothing during school hours and gorge themselves when they go home,making things even worse.a good foloow up on this should be education,what eating tons of junkfood can do to you,suggestions on diet changes,advice in general about being overwieght;how not to end up,and how to stop being

This was done at some school area in Alabama years ago, that area of the state has some of the lowest obesity rates in the country, much less the state. it may start at home but school food is artery clogging.


VERY interesting. :)

Where did you hear about that?

its a start,but if kids arent allowed eat junk food in school some will eat nothing during school hours and gorge themselves when they go home,making things even worse.a good foloow up on this should be education,what eating tons of junkfood can do to you,suggestions on diet changes,advice in general about being overwieght;how not to end up,and how to stop being


Here in Nevada I know that they are teaching the young ones (pre-kindergarten) good nutrition and their assignments are things like: eat 1 piece of fruit a day and stuff like that. They also have the teachers talk to the parents about what to feed their kids and if they think the kids aren't being fed a healthy diet they have a talk with the parents over it.

This is a reasonable step.

I've heard in Belgium they were debating serving beer in primary schools because soda was so unhealthy for them.

Whaaaaaaaaa?!?!?!?! <- sounding like Moe Sizlak (sp?)

The govenator has sighned a bill banning Junk food in California Schools. Does any one think this will help with child hood obesity?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4251928.stm

This is a reasonable step.

I've heard in Belgium they were debating serving beer in primary schools because soda was so unhealthy for them.

How the hell did he reply to my post before I posted it!!!

VERY interesting. :)

Where did you hear about that?
Local paper.

I suppose Arnold will give the schools more money since the lost profits on the soda machines will hit the schools hard.

I'm a vegetarian highschooler who knows how to cook for herself and brings her own lunches to school; I'm hardly dependent on the school cafeteria for food. Even still, on the rare occasions that I do have to eat there, all I can find is junk. Junk and $4 salads.
I know kids who eat there every single day. Don't try to tell me that having five healthy school lunches a week wouldn't make a difference in the health of students. Even if poor eating habits do start in the home, and even if the kids stay fat, they will be better off.
It's about time that schools stopped providing addictive drugs in the form of high-cal, high-fat, high-sodium food.

So now kids in California will have to deal with bad cafateria food and not have snacks. Ouch. Rreally how high should banning junk food be on a state legislature's list?

I've seen this program work wonders up North (that's Northern Canada...Arctic circle area:)) where diabetes among the native population makes junkfood a double whammy. Behaviour problems have gone down, and kids are allowed to eat in class now, as long as the snack is healthy. Kids are actually excited to eat carrot sticks and strawberrys! Vending machines are often a substantial form of fundraising in schools, and this problem has not been addressed yet...but it's a start. The biggest thing I liked about the policy in the North is that the junk food ban extends to the teachers too. No coffee in the classroom...they have to sneak it in the teacher's lounge...and only healthy snacks...no eating chips in front of the kids, taunting them with your privilege.

what does having sutch a vast amount of obese children tell you about your countries attitude?

So now kids in California will have to deal with bad cafateria food and not have snacks. Ouch. Rreally how high should banning junk food be on a state legislature's list?

Should be pretty high if they are worried about rising health costs and making sure education is effective.

what does having sutch a vast amount of obese children tell you about your countries attitude?


six out of ten people are supposed to be diabetic within 10 (years in america)

It's all about what they consume at home.

My mother always made sure we had junk food, cakes, pies, cupcakes, candy etc at home, even though she did not eat the stuff.

And she cooked us school cafeteria food as well...

:gundge:

It's all about what they consume at home.

My mother always made sure we had junk food, cakes, pies, cupcakes, candy etc at home, even though she did not eat the stuff.

And she cooked us school cafeteria food as well...

:gundge:


so basically you are saying that your mother was trying to kill you?

Kids should just bring their own junk food from home. Show these health nuts what you want! :)

The govenator has sighned a bill banning Junk food in California Schools. Does any one think this will help with child hood obesity?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4251928.stmI don't think that making junk food unavailable to children at school will magically undo obesity. But it can't hurt and at least schools are no longer part of the problem.

He probably pissed off a bunch of Coke and Pepsi salesmen, but the law doesn't affect consumption. Only sales by schools. I wonder how that affects the eternal band candy sales fundraisers?

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Is eternal the right word or is ubiquitous better?

He probably pissed off a bunch of Coke and Pepsi salesmen, but the law doesn't affect consumption. Only sales by schools. I wonder how that affects the eternal band candy sales fundraisers?

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Is eternal the right word or is ubiquitous better?That's a good question. But the point behind the law is to remove a daily source of candy, and not prevent it completely. That's what's unhealthy.

I've seen this program work wonders up North (that's Northern Canada...Arctic circle area:)) where diabetes among the native population makes junkfood a double whammy. Behaviour problems have gone down, and kids are allowed to eat in class now, as long as the snack is healthy. Kids are actually excited to eat carrot sticks and strawberrys! Vending machines are often a substantial form of fundraising in schools, and this problem has not been addressed yet...but it's a start. The biggest thing I liked about the policy in the North is that the junk food ban extends to the teachers too. No coffee in the classroom...they have to sneak it in the teacher's lounge...and only healthy snacks...no eating chips in front of the kids, taunting them with your privilege.

Man, I'd be happy if the schools gave me lots of strawberries, or pineapple for that matter. Unfortunately, their healthy alternatives couldn't really be considered alternatives.

I've heard in Belgium they were debating serving beer in primary schools because soda was so unhealthy for them.

Because students learn better when drunk! I swear, half the countries over there are off their rockers...

That's a good question. But the point behind the law is to remove a daily source of candy, and not prevent it completely. That's what's unhealthy.
I don't have any objections to the law. I think that kids have better things to do in school than eat candy and drink soda.

[old_and_cranky]
In the olden days before I graduated from high school, the only place you could find a Coke machine was in the teacher's lounge. The only place you could find a candy machine was in the gas station down the street. The only place you could buy a pizza that wasn't just a hamburger bun with ketchup and some melted American cheese was all the way across town. Those were the days before the adjusted SAT scores, before buses, when we had to walk ten miles...*No wait, I'm not finished, let go. Don't push that butto

Sounds good. What's so bad about Ahnuld anyway?

For those saying that schools will lose income due to McDonalds' lost sponsorship, well I think that schools should not be dependent on such sources of funds in the first place.

No. The problem is at home; parents are primarily responsible for the feeding of their kids, so they are the ones who buy all of this unhealthy food and give it to them, often without much other choice. Obesity isn't going to be fixed unless parents take responsibility.
I don't think that much can be done to police what parents feed their kids. Only school food can be controlled.

It actually may, for the kids who eat their lunch as well as breakfeast and between-classes snacks from school-provided cafeteria facillities and/or vending machines. Without such a strong influence by junk food-producing corporations in the school enviornment, where most kids spend the majority of their childhood, they may be less inclined to attach to those types of products outside of school and in their adult futures, placing them on a healthier consuming track. Then again, I could be completely wrong. I think we need to see some credible studies a few years after this program has had some time to settle in. My district recently put a similar restrictive policy in effect as well. Time will only tell if it makes a difference in kids' eating habits.

Pardon the interruption, but did anyone notice posts 12 and 13 (?) on the first page?
How did that happen and is it common?

Pardon the interruption, but did anyone notice posts 12 and 13 (?) on the first page?
How did that happen and is it common?


it happens every once in a while

somethign about servers not syncing up or something.

I don't see why they are restricting what children eat when around here (southern Alabama) the parents are more obese. All you have to do is get the parents weight back under control and the kids obesity rate will go down.

That new California law won't work very well. You're just succeeding and getting a lot of kids mad.

so basically you are saying that your mother was trying to kill you?

Quite possibly!

Actually, I think the school cafeteria cuisine came from the fact that she taught herself to cook and that she was a school teacher...

I never did figure out the junk food, though.

I will ask her when I get to heaven. :)