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Nintendo has released the controller for it's next console, the Revolution. And it certainly is... different.

The controller for Nintendo's upcoming Revolution home console system is a cordless remote-control-like device designed to be used with only one hand. Two small sensors placed near the TV and a chip inside the controller track its position and orientation, allowing the player to manipulate the action on screen by physically moving the controller itself. For example, you could slash an in-game sword by actually swinging the controller from side to side, turn a race car just by twisting your wrist, or aim your gun in a shooter by pointing the controller where you want to fire.

If this is well-done, it could be really cool. Can't wait to try it. :)

very cool idea... not exactly original but hey, who cares... if it works right i'll be looking forward to playing on my mate's revolution (getting a x360 myself)

Hmm... :(

Poor old Nintendo, I think it's time for it to go to that big video game-company place in the sky.

Hmm... :(

Poor old Nintendo, I think it's time for it to go to that big video game-company place in the sky.

Why do you say that? Because they're actually willing to try something new? This controller has all sorts of interesting possiblities.

This sounds like something that a lot of people will hate, and that we with other consoles (go PS3!) will laugh at.

Why do you say that? Because they're actually willing to try something new? This controller has all sorts of interesting possiblities.

Yeah, I actually find that idea intriguing.

Why do you say that? Because they're actually willing to try something new? This controller has all sorts of interesting possiblities.

It's also gonna require piles of accessories to use propperly. I reckon they should keep the good ol' 64 controler design as their primary controler, and use this stick thingy as a secondary option to make certain games more interactive.

This sounds like something that a lot of people will hate, and that we with other consoles (go PS3!) will laugh at.
sounds like something the other consoles will steal and use in their next-next gen controllers anyway

i mean why couldn't nintendo have a normal controller with this technology built-in? then you'd have the best of both worlds, not some weiro tv-style controller that's gonna get lost down the back of the sofa like everything else...

I like how you can turn it sideways to turn it into a NES controller.

Why do you say that? Because they're actually willing to try something new? This controller has all sorts of interesting possiblities.
I figure it's worth the gamble--they're lagging badly in the console race right now, so anything that sparks interest has to be a plus for them.

Wait a second, if you look closely at the controller there are only 4 radio slots. What if you want to play with two or more?

But why the remote look??? It seems that if you want two hands on it there would be no room to move your fingers. and it just SILLY! I love nintendo but I disaprove this, and the same with the PS3's controler, the side handles are like 6 inches long......

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782

Nintendo has released the controller for it's next console, the Revolution. And it certainly is... different.



If this is well-done, it could be really cool. Can't wait to try it. :)
*Whispering*

...........................I see thumbs undergoing surgery at earlier and earlier ages.................

(i remeber hearing/reading that one girl had to under go surgery in her thumb because she used her cell phone text-messenging contraption too damn much)

Wait a second, if you look closely at the controller there are only 4 radio slots. What if you want to play with two or more?

They might use the Wavebird technology. Those controllers have (I think) 16 different channels for the rf signals.

They called it the Revolution for a reason, they are trying something completely new. Personally, I think it has a lot of potential and I'm glad someones finally trying to break the mold of games rather than putting out more repetitive crap. There will also be ports for the old GCN controllers for all of those that just can't bring themselves to use those new fangled things.

The first sign of a totally fucked system is making a remote control controller. Look at it for Christ's sake, the D-pad is at the top and the buttons at the bottom, my God, where are the buttons?! Nintendo is not going to sell a damn one besides to fanboys so deep into the darkside they won't notice.

Nintendo: *grabs chest* "Oh, I'm comin' home to join you Sega!!"

I give it less than a month of shittastic sales before they go to a controller design you can actually play games with or just go under.

i mean why couldn't nintendo have a normal controller with this technology built-in? then you'd have the best of both worlds, not some weiro tv-style controller that's gonna get lost down the back of the sofa like everything else...
All systems are going to have wireless controllers, they could do the same thing as Nintendo with a little programming I am willing to bet, without sacrificng normal game playability. How will you play Mario, or Sonic, or Pokemon? All Nintendo staples.

It looks like all the games are gimmicks, all of which you can buy every single one of without having to buy the revolution, or the games that will cost twice to ten times as much.

Sonic? A nintendo staple? Like to see you play Sonic 3 on a SNES.

I'm not sure myself, I'm more interested in the 'cube-coding' but this would finally make console FPS's truly playable (they are worse on PC mind).

The first sign of a totally fucked system is making a remote control controller.

Your evidence being?

I give it less than a month of shittastic sales before they go to a controller design you can actually play games with or just go under.

Given that the entire console is based on the controller and all the major games companies seem to like it (EA, Capcom, Ubisoft, Square-Enix etc) I'd say you are spewing pure bullshit.

without sacrificng normal game playability.

You do know they are putting a regular control stick attachment in right? And since mario only ever needed 4 buttons max to play (jump, punch, camera and crouch/spray) and the attachment has two buttons with it...

Looks sexy. Although almost every game on their last console (bar those that could be played on their rivals too) sucked big donkey schlong, I may just consider buying one because it looks so much like a fat iPod. Yum.

Sonic? A nintendo staple? Like to see you play Sonic 3 on a SNES.
I can play it on the Nintendo GBA, when Sega console went under Nintendo gained rights to play games made with Sega characters, ie Sonic.

Not debating the merits of the system with a fanboy.

Bizzarro!
It looks like the games will have to be designed for the controller, rather than the other way 'round. I think it'd work in addition to a more traditional pad/stick/KB+Mouse, but not so well purely "instead of". Still, we shall see.

I have a Logitech tilty gamepad for my PC, but it's not really very useful. The old-style full-size XBox pad works much better - and you don't need your hands all scrunched up like with the PS pads!

Look at it for Christ's sake, the D-pad is at the top and the buttons at the bottom, my God, where are the buttons?!

also at the top?

Nintendo always liked doing thing a bit different but this is a tad too far

I still have my doubts that that's the real controller. It doesn't seem too radical or normal. Niether. Plus, how will you play N64 games on it? How will OOT work? I thought you could play them via download?

I still have my doubts that that's the real controller. It doesn't seem too radical or normal. Niether. Plus, how will you play N64 games on it? How will OOT work? I thought you could play them via download?

The revo has 4 GC controller ports for a very good reason...

They said the new controllers would do it.

Looks interesting. This is why I like Nintendo... They do things other companies would never think about.

They said the new controllers would do it.


It would appear that they are also releasing add-ons you can just slot the new controller into, at least for the SNES. Unfortunately that's the only way it's going to work with this controller design (I like the GC controller and have several so I'm OK).

Why do you say that? Because they're actually willing to try something new? This controller has all sorts of interesting possiblities.
while the controller does look interesting, it does have one PRO and a lotof CONs for it.
Pro: it will promote some excercise. (keeping your arm in a posistion to properly use the remote, the swinging, slashing, stabbing and who knows what else.)

con: playtime is limited to your arm strength. thus, as time goes on, your performance goes down due to fatigue.

then there is the fact that 'Wild' arm movements that will place the cursor (assuming there is one) outside the play area (tv screen)

for me, I sometimes lie in bed and play (I have a PS2 with a monitor attachment, so I can have it sitting on my chest and play lying on my back) nintendo will remove that ability. (try using the pointer lying down and the tv on the wall.)

so this remote, while interesting, isn't going to make me run out and by a Nintendo.

I think it'll be interesting. It might be awkward at first, an may take some getting used to, but like most new horizons Nintendo crosses, it'll be worth it in the end. Awesome idea, IMHO.

while the controller does look interesting, it does have one PRO and a lotof CONs for it.
Pro: it will promote some excercise. (keeping your arm in a posistion to properly use the remote, the swinging, slashing, stabbing and who knows what else.) Most people are saying that small subtle movements work far better

con: playtime is limited to your arm strength. thus, as time goes on, your performance goes down due to fatigue. Dunno about you but I have armrests on my sofa

then there is the fact that 'Wild' arm movements that will place the cursor (assuming there is one) outside the play area (tv screen) It appears that a 'cursor' is not going to be the main use of this thing

for me, I sometimes lie in bed and play (I have a PS2 with a monitor attachment, so I can have it sitting on my chest and play lying on my back) nintendo will remove that ability. (try using the pointer lying down and the tv on the wall.) The sensor system allows you to do this, the controller is not dependent on pointing at the TV screen

so this remote, while interesting, isn't going to make me run out and by a Nintendo. Fair enough, I'll probably get a PS3 or Xbox360 when the prices drop, it'll probably depend which has the best RPG's

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What the deuce?

If we're supposed to use it with one hand [nevermind the lack of an analog stick] how the fuck are we supposed to move and shoot at the same time?

It's really discouraging to see Nintendo slide like this. You'd figure they'd have learned their lesson with the utterly laughable LameCube controller. I can appreciate the occasional deviation from convention, but this is just ridiculous.

'Lamecube' the blinding wit. It's a love-or-hate controller that, personally I preferred the Xbox S but I don't get the hangup everyone had with SC2.

The controller has a D-pad and the tilt function. You move with the D-pad, you aim with the tilt and pull the trigger to fire.

What the deuce?

If we're supposed to use it with one hand [nevermind the lack of an analog stick] how the fuck are we supposed to move and shoot at the same time?

It's really discouraging to see Nintendo slide like this. You'd figure they'd have learned their lesson with the utterly laughable LameCube controller. I can appreciate the occasional deviation from convention, but this is just ridiculous.

Well each to their own I suppose, i thought the gamecube controller was pretty fine. As for it being extremely weird, I thought that about the DS but that turned out to do pretty well so nobody knows till they play it.

This sounds like something that a lot of people will hate, and that we with other consoles (go PS3!) will laugh at.

Exactly my thought. I laughed when I was told by a Nintendo fan about it, and then a friend of mine (who's a die hard Nintendo fan to the point of it being ridiculous) tried to defend it.

It looks like a remote control and a detached joystick..Which isn't what I think of when I think of console gaming. I mean, if they went back and revisited the PowerGlove, then I'd be impressed.

I think it well work, remember what folk said when they seen the N64 controller? Ugly, stupid...etc. Also remember that this may possibly make or break the big N, if they weren't confident in the controll then they'd have just stuck a modified GC controller in been done with it.

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while the controller does look interesting, it does have one PRO and a lotof CONs for it.
Pro: it will promote some excercise. (keeping your arm in a posistion to properly use the remote, the swinging, slashing, stabbing and who knows what else.) Most people are saying that small subtle movements work far betterwhich does put more strain on the wrist, (if you're talking about wrist movements - just thought about all those kids ) and you still need the room for your arms small I can imaging alot of buddies elbowing each other in those multi-player games. :D

con: playtime is limited to your arm strength. thus, as time goes on, your performance goes down due to fatigue. Dunno about you but I have armrests on my sofaBetter than me. don't have a sofa :D

then there is the fact that 'Wild' arm movements that will place the cursor (assuming there is one) outside the play area (tv screen) It appears that a 'cursor' is not going to be the main use of this thingmakes aiming for those First Person shooters, or selecting of Menu Options, as well as wondering if you are really point the remote at the enemy or yourself really difficult. but then again, this is a new system, so I'm willing to wait to see the end product.

for me, I sometimes lie in bed and play (I have a PS2 with a monitor attachment, so I can have it sitting on my chest and play lying on my back) nintendo will remove that ability. (try using the pointer lying down and the tv on the wall.) The sensor system allows you to do this, the controller is not dependent on pointing at the TV screenand where does the sensor system go? according to the article, by your TV.

Anyone know if the new system will be compatable with their gamecube games?

This sounds like something that a lot of people will hate, and that we with other consoles (go PS3!) will laugh at.
That is if you can afford a PS3.
What'll it cost? The GNP of a small nation?

Regardless, Nintendo's no longer trying to place themselves as the lead in consoles. Hell, they appear to be running a different race entirely with this. In all likelyhood though, they'll make the perfect "2nd console". If you see people with two consoles, it'll probably be a 360 and a Rev, or a PS3 and a Rev. Also, Rev's pricing will be much more...attractive, than the other two.

I think the new controller has potential. Say for Zelda, instead of pressing a button for sword play, you could do parrys and thrusts, blocks and slashs of any sort. Football games could have increased control (w/ the controller shell), and console FPS's would finally be able to shed the analog stick for aiming.

It remains to be seen wether or not Nintendo can harness it properly(they should be able to) or perhaps more importantly, if third party developers can.

All this aside, I'd love to be able to have all 3 consoles (as they all will have some great games), unfortunately, I can't afford all three. I'll probably go with the 360/Rev combo.

I think CAD put it best though. God HATES Fanboys. (Goes for all consoles)

It could be cool... but so many pitfalls. I approve of them trying it though. I always did prefer their controllers to the playstation equivalent (even though the X-box controller is my favourite.)

If they sell the controllers in groups of 2, then it'd work, since if I read the link correctly, that'll turn it into a more conventional design.

of course, this doesn't answer my question. Why do console manufacturers refuse to simply adopt the mouse and keyboard? it is the best design, after all. Oh well.

It could be cool... but so many pitfalls. I approve of them trying it though. I always did prefer their controllers to the playstation equivalent (even though the X-box controller is my favourite.)

If they sell the controllers in groups of 2, then it'd work, since if I read the link correctly, that'll turn it into a more conventional design.

of course, this doesn't answer my question. Why do console manufacturers refuse to simply adopt the mouse and keyboard? it is the best design, after all. Oh well.
The PS2 has a keyboard attachment for their Online Everquest Game. so did the now Defunt DreamCast.

and if they do that, make games for the Keyboard/Mouse interface, then why make a new console, just make games for the PC.

The PS2 has a keyboard attachment for their Online Everquest Game. so did the now Defunt DreamCast.

and if they do that, make games for the Keyboard/Mouse interface, then why make a new console, just make games for the PC.

I'm all for that. Would save me a lot of money. PCs are the best. But we all know that glorious day will never happen, and I need some way to play super smash bros, so I think consoles are here to stay. They should just adopt winning ideas, or invent new ones. Hence my liking of the nintendo idea.

That looks bad....I like the Xbox360 and the PS3 controllers I'm getting Xbox360

Wow. Nintendo releases something new and is met with a flood of "too different!" Why are people afraid of new things. Give it 5 years, when Sony and Microsoft release the next generation of systems, and I garuntee they'll all have similar design. This is the future of video games.

I was going to get a 360 when the price drops to reasonable, but this changes everything.

I think it well work, remember what folk said when they seen the N64 controller? Ugly, stupid...etc. Also remember that this may possibly make or break the big N, if they weren't confident in the controll then they'd have just stuck a modified GC controller in been done with it.
It was ugly and stupid...

Nintendo releases something new and is met with a flood of "too different!" Why are people afraid of new things.
It isn't "too different," it is too much gimmick and too little functionality. Of coruse it can be used in shooters, but how? You will obvsiously use it as a pointer to shoot, but how will you move or pull the trigger? Not with one hand, and two hands will be awkward and hard to work.

Wow. Nintendo releases something new and is met with a flood of "too different!" Why are people afraid of new things. Give it 5 years, when Sony and Microsoft release the next generation of systems, and I garuntee they'll all have similar design. This is the future of video games.

I was going to get a 360 when the price drops to reasonable, but this changes everything.
you mean like the DreamCast where the memory card was a small Video Game Unit that could play games that can (and sometimes does) affect the regular game?

That is if you can afford a PS3.
What'll it cost? The GNP of a small nation?

Fortunately, I will be able to afford it. Poor people shouldn't be spending their money on things like these anyway - they should spend it on food and lodging and those sorts of things.

This sounds like something that a lot of people will hate, and that we with other consoles (go PS3!) will laugh at.
I even laughed at the gamecube. Nintendo gets very stupid ideas!

It's also gonna require piles of accessories to use propperly. I reckon they should keep the good ol' 64 controler design as their primary controler, and use this stick thingy as a secondary option to make certain games more interactive.
They should also change the "C buttons" to a stick.

I even laughed at the gamecube. Nintendo gets very stupid ideas!

Aye, it was and still is pretty laughable when you think about it and how anachronistic it was.

Aye, it was and still is pretty laughable when you think about it and how anachronistic it was.

yeah, good games with no gore, so last century man.

(OK, you got Katamari Damacy you bastards)

Oh yeah, and an affordable release price that made a profit, very old-skool.

Aye, it was and still is pretty laughable when you think about it and how anachronistic it was.

Er, what? Anachronistic? Was? I have a gamecube and its going fine. A lot of third parties have stopped producing games for it but thats because like the N64 it was usually the least popular console. Maybe it was slightly less powerful than the other 2 but the better games and the price more than made it up for me.

yeah, good games with no gore, so last century man.

I wasn't thinking about that (although it is sort of true, with a few exceptions, that the games for the cube have pretty much sucked), but more about its lack of technology that by the time the cube came out was pretty much expected from any console.

(OK, you got Katamari Damacy you bastards)

That game is so overrated. It's quirky, yes, but is it good? No, not so much.

Hmm... :(

Poor old Nintendo, I think it's time for it to go to that big video game-company place in the sky.
Who's the itiot who said that.

Who's the itiot who said that.
The guy who posted it. Duh!

I wasn't thinking about that (although it is sort of true, with a few exceptions, that the games for the cube have pretty much sucked), but more about its lack of technology that by the time the cube came out was pretty much expected from any console.

Thing is though, I wanted a pure gaming machine. Nintendo made one, Microsoft and Sony didn't. Plus I can't afford a PS2 or Xbox. Nintendo's signature games are always good so I stick with them for that, plus they didn't get as much crap as the PS2 did :p

Thing is though, I wanted a pure gaming machine. Nintendo made one, Microsoft and Sony didn't. Plus I can't afford a PS2 or Xbox.

Sony, and in some respects Microsoft, made what most people wanted. Nintendo's last place as the console for those who can't afford a better one is even admitted by you.

Nintendo's signature games are always good so I stick with them for that,

They even managed to ruin Mario on the Gamecube. That sort of says it all.

The only really good game I've played on the Gamecube has been Resident Evil, and where did that come from? Not from the place that cell-shaded Zelda to death...

plus they didn't get as much crap as the PS2 did :p

The gamecube just got a lot of crap in a smaller volume, leaving you with very few choices.

Thing is though, I wanted a pure gaming machine. Nintendo made one, Microsoft and Sony didn't. Plus I can't afford a PS2 or Xbox. Nintendo's signature games are always good so I stick with them for that, plus they didn't get as much crap as the PS2 did :p
this is where marketing comes in. See, Sony made their PS2 into a DVD/CD player also, thus they were very popular with the College students who, on limited income, could get 3 machines in one. (the very reason why I bought a PS2.)

another plus for Sony is that their PS2 was backwards compatable with the PSX games. thus the PS2 hit the market with a LARGE library of games already established.

anyone know if Nintendo's Revolution is also backwards compatable.

this is where marketing comes in. See, Sony made their PS2 into a DVD/CD player also, thus they were very popular with the College students who, on limited income, could get 3 machines in one. (the very reason why I bought a PS2.)

another plus for Sony is that their PS2 was backwards compatable with the PSX games. thus the PS2 hit the market with a LARGE library of games already established.

anyone know if Nintendo's Revolution is also backwards compatable.

It is, although i dont know how exactly it works. You can download gamecube,n64 , snes and nes games but i'm not sure if you have to pay for them.

Not going to bother to read the whole thread, so it may have come up.

My friend pointed out the similarities between the new controller and a 'bullet.' By bullet, I mean sex toy, not thing-that-comes-out-of-gun.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/hamsterkid_2000/both.jpg

Top is controller, buttom is sex toy.

Sorry for distortion of controller picture, which is taken from 1up.com. I cut off their logo, but if you take and use the picture, please credit them. The bullet picture is from goodvibrations.com, I believe.

One hand controller? Japanese company? Hmmm... sounds like they're going to put out the sort of games that certain people like to play with one hand free...

One hand controller? Japanese company? Hmmm... sounds like they're going to put out the sort of games that certain people like to play with one hand free...
ahh... but is it airtight? Can't have liquids splashing on it and shorting it out you know. ;)

It will have to pass the ricepaper test, yes.

Can anyone honestly say they would wish to play with a control like that, that requires that much effort to use, and is likely very twitchy day in and day out?

Honesty it would be really cool to use it once in a while, but I think its going to get really old really fast

*shameless self promotion* I added a picture to my post on page 4.

This is an interesting design. Though the remote idea is just ugly as hell BUT it's an interesting concept. Say playing a Zelda game and insted of using your analog you actualy are swinging your hands as if were using Link's sword. Plus it'll give gammers the excuse that they're "working out".
Though for the NES games you can download you can actualy jsut turn the controller sideways and instantly you have a NES contoller.
On the originality area it is the winner (as 360 just reuses the XBox controller and the PS3's is litteraly a fricking boomarang)
Tough for design wise it's just ugly.
Though personaly growing up on their systems I've learned to try it before I go off and say it's the worst thing possible. And I think the other ones bashing it should try it first to before they go off and condem it to death.

Plus it'll give gamers the excuse that they're "working out".

They've been able to do that since DDR came out ;) I've played games using the dancepads, albeit never for long.

They've been able to do that since DDR came out ;) I've played games using the dancepads, albeit never for long.
Haha I forgot about that but this would work in favor of those who are "rythmicly chalenged" and who feel DDR [edited for kindness]isn't their type of game[/end edit].

This is an interesting design. Though the remote idea is just ugly as hell BUT it's an interesting concept. Say playing a Zelda game and insted of using your analog you actualy are swinging your hands as if were using Link's sword. Plus it'll give gammers the excuse that they're "working out".
Though for the NES games you can download you can actualy jsut turn the controller sideways and instantly you have a NES contoller.
On the originality area it is the winner (as 360 just reuses the XBox controller and the PS3's is litteraly a fricking boomarang)
Tough for design wise it's just ugly.
Though personaly growing up on their systems I've learned to try it before I go off and say it's the worst thing possible. And I think the other ones bashing it should try it first to before they go off and condem it to death.heh, I'll just wait till Mad-Catz designs another Controller. :D Theirs seems to be better than the company that makes the system.

They've been able to do that since DDR came out ;) I've played games using the dancepads, albeit never for long.I tried DDR... and proved to myself that having Two Left Feet would be an improvement for me

The PS2 has a keyboard attachment for their Online Everquest Game. so did the now Defunt DreamCast.

and if they do that, make games for the Keyboard/Mouse interface, then why make a new console, just make games for the PC.

The X-Box is basically a dedicated PC system.

I like what Nintendo is doing here. Instead of changing the color or making the handles long to the last console's controller, they keep making new controllers. Now they're making a controller that can work nearly perfectly in any genre. Primarily racing games and first-person shooters. No more of this horrible two joysticks shit we've had to put up with for the last 10 years.

I believe this speaks for itself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/mousedown/revo.swf

I even laughed at the gamecube. Nintendo gets very stupid ideas!

Hey now, I think the GC is a pretty awesome console. It will take a lot of effort to beat Metroid Prime and its sequel, Echoes. While admitably it's not the best system on the market, I wouldn't say it's a "stupid idea".

I believe this speaks for itself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/mousedown/revo.swf

:D Oh my God, that's awesome! I'm bookmarking this.

I dunno if it's been mentioned...but don't you all realize that you could turn the remote control sideways... sure the mouse thing is in front...but they're making the normal controller..



:( Remember when people didn't care about interface or asthetics, but whether you could play a game and not a basically interactive cinematic... Yeah...I miss those days...

I think this is a great feature, and will end up being one of the funnest next gen consoles, gameplay wise.

I mean, I bought a DS, and when I managed to get some actually decent games, the concept worked great(the touch screen). Nintendo has a way of making controllers(Loved every one they have made). I have no doubt I will be buying this, next year(getting my 360 for christmas, and Im sure my mother will buy a PS3 for herself)...

Finally, I will be able to play an fps on a console, and not over-aim(Not that I do much anyways, but now it will be intuitive, not practice-mastered)