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Yet another somewhat bizarre post from Sel Appa. Please await poll before posting.

Being the King.

Is the poll up yet?

No?

The alchemist.

No no wait, the guy that waves his penis at merchant carts passing by!

It's up. I voted merchant, that's always been an attraction to me. Merchants never really seem to be in the fight of anything. They just go about their business. They also travel a lot back then, so you'd see a lot of the world.

DAMN, I clicked "Lord" Instead of "Knight"


Anyway, assume I voted Knight, because A) You get most of the perks of being a lord and B) you get to dress up in armour an knock seven bells out of other blokes in armour

im going with merchant

its a good job for a woman. you can make good money. talk to lots of people and maybe get an "in" to the upper classes without the pressure to be whored off to some guy for political advantage.

im going with merchant

its a good job for a woman. you can make good money. talk to lots of people and maybe get an "in" to the upper classes without the pressure to be whored off to some guy for political advantage.
Yay Merchants!

Queen. I'd be a real evil bitch, too.

Actually you'll still be pressured by the perverted knights there :D

But if your really good at what you do, you can threaten embargo on there pimp ass lol ;)

You left out the religious ranks, I want to be "73H 1337 UB3R P0P3!!shift+1!"
Alternately, a bishop would be nice because then I could walk diagonally all the time and zip across the board really fast, kicking the skulls of any queens I might happen to pass in as I go.
Seriously, though, you did leave out a major chunk of society when you failed to mention any religious roles, but put in Muslim man, especially since Islam ISN'T A COUNTRY OR LANDMASS OF ANY VARIETY and therefore doesn't jive with the idea of laughing at the blunders of Europeans (what of European muslims, eh? Must they mock themselves).
Finally, there is no minister/adviser, and that is where "teh shit" is because no one assasinates advisers, they always aim for the King.

However, now that I am done bitching, of the roles available I picked the knight, since they get a 4 Attack score, 2 Movement points per turn, and can be upgraded to Cavalry when their controller researches Military Tradition.

Asian culture was far ahead of Medieval Europe's, hence, I'd rather live there.

Well you certainly have a very odd way of looking at history. It is understandable. After all, Europeans are the cause for all the problems in the world. There was no war, poverty and diseases in Asia during the Middle Ages. They were too enlightened.

Never mind the fact that bubonic plague originated in China, and was spread by men who made a living out of pillaging and raping. Never mind that the first wide-scale use of windmills and waterwheels for industry were in Europe. Never mind European contributions to the sophistication of art. Never mind that every culture has good and bad qualities.

Those are lies told by euro-centric whites in an effort to oppress minorities and beat women. As everyone knows,
White, Christian= bad
Everybody else= good

Sorry for not putting King/Queen and for forgetting the clergy.

Yes, Europeans have caused pretty much every problem ever. Africa was very cultured until Europeans came along...see where they are now.

Have to go with the 'Asian' option meself :p

Japanese samurai... or Chinese Mandarian class... neither cares about the peon masses in Europe :p :p

You are aware that the "high culture" of Africa was what started the slave trade, right? Europeans didn't go inland to get their slaves, because they would die of disease if they did. Instead, they simply bought slaves captured by coastal African tribes.

I'd be a knight-errant. Wandering from town to town doing good deeds and hacking and slashing sounds like a life for me.

I'd be The Turk. Vienna, here we come!

Well you certainly have a very odd way of looking at history. It is understandable. After all, Europeans are the cause for all the problems in the world. There was no war, poverty and diseases in Asia during the Middle Ages. They were too enlightened.

Never mind the fact that bubonic plague originated in China, and was spread by men who made a living out of pillaging and raping. Never mind that the first wide-scale use of windmills and waterwheels for industry were in Europe. Never mind European contributions to the sophistication of art. Never mind that every culture has good and bad qualities.

Those are lies told by euro-centric whites in an effort to oppress minorities and beat women. As everyone knows,
White, Christian= bad
Everybody else= good

Yup nevermind the fact that ancient europe went on crusade sprees and would even kill fellow christians, nevermind the fact that the black death originated in Europe because idiotic kings and officials thought it wasn't good to bath daily, nevermind the fact that everyone was pretty uneducated and thought that if they went on crusades (Aka-killing sprees) that they would go to heaven because the pope seemed to think that god enjoyed watching his children die.

Please don't diss off China :D I'm kind of chinese here

Although everyone the crusades were really sickening I mean who the hell would think that god enjoys watching us die (Shish damn corrupted priests)

I would like to be a Count, or Usurper type guy...
Count Von Jibea MDXXI

Euorpe does more good then harm...The Muslims started the Crusades, Bubonic plauge originated in China, Ghengis Kahn was there in the 1200s, Africa willingly "traded" slaves, and Europe just is there participating second hand. Europe did do somethings like WW1 and 2, several other wars, and other things, but not are fault for everything.

Blacksmith.

Serfs 4 life!

Actually, I think being a mongolian horde would be sweet.

Yup nevermind the fact that ancient europe went on crusade sprees and would even kill fellow christians, nevermind the fact that the black death originated in Europe because idiotic kings and officials thought it wasn't good to bath daily, nevermind the fact that everyone was pretty uneducated and thought that if they went on crusades (Aka-killing sprees) that they would go to heaven because the pope seemed to think that god enjoyed watching his children die.

Please don't diss off China :D I'm kind of chinese here

Although everyone the crusades were really sickening I mean who the hell would think that god enjoys watching us die (Shish damn corrupted priests)

1. Crusades-Started by Muslims attack on the Byzantine Empire
2. Black Death-Started in China, and travelled to Europe through trade routes

Parthini']Serfs 4 life!

Actually, I think being a mongolian horde would be sweet.

Pervert :D you just like the fact that they can have three to five wives per warrior lol

I'm starting to think there isn't a point of a poll for this. There seem to be too many jobs.

Yup nevermind the fact that ancient europe went on crusade sprees and would even kill fellow christians, nevermind the fact that the black death originated in Europe because idiotic kings and officials thought it wasn't good to bath daily, nevermind the fact that everyone was pretty uneducated and thought that if they went on crusades (Aka-killing sprees) that they would go to heaven because the pope seemed to think that god enjoyed watching his children die.

Please don't diss off China :D I'm kind of chinese here

Although everyone the crusades were really sickening I mean who the hell would think that god enjoys watching us die (Shish damn corrupted priests)
Please don’t diss Europe. I’m kind of European here. Like I said, all cultures have good and bad qualities. What makes Genghis Khan’s massacres any better or any worse than the crusades?

Please don’t diss Europe. I’m kind of European here. Like I said, all cultures have good and bad qualities. What makes Genghis Khan’s massacres any better or any worse than the crusades?

I didn't diss off Europe I only answered back because you dissed off China first *points to Undelia accusingly :D *
And as for Genghis Khan diss him off as much as you like, I'm not Mongol hehee and in fact I have a dislike for him because he conquered china...the barbarian....

To the OP, you forgot to add "Architect" in your list.
Those and the painters made Renaissance and the "medieval" 13 and 14h century.

You're American, arent'ya? ;)

The Mongols also got 3-5 horses O_o

Parthini']The Mongols also got 3-5 horses O_o

Lol from what I know after your a Mongol for a while you won't be able to tell the difference from horse to wives :D

I didn't diss off Europe I only answered back because you dissed off China first *points to Undelia accusingly :D *
And as for Genghis Khan diss him off as much as you like, I'm not Mongol hehee

Yes, you kindof did.

To paraphrase; The bubonic plague started in Europe because the stupid kings, etc thought it was bad to bathe daily...
Crusade sprees, killing fellow Christans...

What makes Genghis Khan’s massacres any better or any worse than the crusades?
Well, i wouldn't say 'better or worse', but the Crusades were religiously based, Gengis' Empire was atheistic- treated all religions equally and gave no preferential treatment to any of them.... his slaughters were.... more equal you could say!
:p

IThe Muslims started the Crusades
This may be so, but not the from them conquering Jerusalem. It had been occupied for 300-400 years at the time of the first crusade. The fact that the Byzanthines got whoopass from the Seljuk Turks (Moslem, but mavericks and not really connected with the authorities in Palestine) is what made the Christian intervene. By the way, Christians had to be dragged out of their residences, as no one was willing to leave land they owned just rot for a year of so - this, in case they got back home.
And the Byzanthines were, after a while, just as obvious foes as the Moslems. Ever heard of the IVth crusade, where French knights and Venetian cronies created the short-lived Latin Empire after they conquered Constantinople? And this after they had been fighting the Catholic Apostolic King of Hungary, because of some minor quarrel the Venetians had with him (they got the other knigts to join in as payement for transport provided by Venice).
Lovely stuff.

Well, i wouldn't say 'better or worse', but the Crusades were religiously based, Gengis' Empire was atheistic- treated all religions equally and gave no preferential treatment to any of them.... his slaughters were.... more equal you could say!
:p

and all for psychological warfare. Pyramid heads, and pouring liquid silver down somebodies mouth, ears, and eyes, just for insulting a Mongol...

Yes, you kindof did.

To paraphrase; The bubonic plague started in Europe because the stupid kings, etc thought it was bad to bathe daily...
Crusade sprees, killing fellow Christans...

yup and you said the plague thing about China so I answered back about the black death... and personally I have little respect for the kings and popes of the ancient time because they were in my mind... asses....
Soo don't take any offense I hate all religious leaders that were corrupt and kings in Medieval time equally

and all for psychological warfare. Pyramid heads, and pouring liquid silver down somebodies mouth, ears, and eyes, just for insulting a Mongol...

Why the heck would you waste silver on someone?!?! were the mongols rolling in cash?!?!?!?!

yup and you said the plague thing about China so I answered back about the black death... and personally I have little respect for the kings and popes of the ancient time because they were in my mind... asses....
Soo don't take any offense I hate all religious leaders that were corrupt and kings in Medieval time equally

The bubonic plague is the black death.

Well, i wouldn't say 'better or worse', but the Crusades were religiously based, Gengis' Empire was atheistic- treated all religions equally and gave no preferential treatment to any of them.... his slaughters were.... more equal you could say!
:p
Bah, the crusaders slaughtered plenty of fellow Christians. Please see the Fourth Crusade, which, unless I’m getting my crusades mixed up, was all about sacking Constantinople.

The bubonic plague is the black death.

Oh wait looked it up according to sources no one knows where it originated but its suppose to have come from either Asia or Ancient Egypt... in some ways this pisses me off even more because you automatically assume Asia means China.. bias..
These is no evidence or clear idea at all, at least the crusades can be proven your just sprouting theories

Why the heck would you waste silver on someone?!?! were the mongols rolling in cash?!?!?!?!

Yes, GK was the richest man ever, hence the search for his tomb.

Why the heck would you waste silver on someone?!?! were the mongols rolling in cash?!?!?!?!
Lead, actually.
I agree with you though: the Mongols got a lot of bad press from people writing at later times. If you look through the sources, most of them mention these as exceptions. And it wasn't "just for insulting a Mongol" or whatever. They would ask for surrender and present the alternative from the start. It's a bit more humane than the omnipresent standard in the XIII-XIVth centuries.

The Bard.

*Strums Lute*

Okay... I can tell you right now the black death originated in Europe no matter what you think.... :confused:
No way. This particular one was most likely from Central Asia, and went through Ming China first. Incidentally, China had the highest standard of higene.
In fact, hygene could be a liability. Plague was endemic throughout Eurasia and parts of Africa, and you could become immune or less likely to get it. If it weren't for antibiotics, the same disease would wipe us up today just as it did then, no matter how much we wash (look at India today: they still have the plague, but it doesn't sweep through the country).

No way. This particular one was most likely from Central Asia, and went through Ming China first. Incidentally, China had the highest standard of higene.
In fact, hygene could be a liability. Plague was endemic throughout Eurasia and parts of Africa, and you could become immune or less likely to get it. If it weren't for antibiotics, the same disease would wipe us up today just as it did then, no matter how much we wash (look at India today: they still have the plague, but it doesn't sweep through the country).

Yes I know I posted that comment earlier before looking up on the internet, however at the same time from what I've read none of this has been proven we don't know where the hell it came from people just gathered evidence that points to either Asia or Ancient Egypt but in the end its just theory which makes the entire thing impossible to argue because there is no solid proof

You left out the religious ranks, I want to be "73H 1337 UB3R P0P3!!shift+1!"
Alternately, a bishop would be nice because then I could walk diagonally all the time and zip across the board really fast, kicking the skulls of any queens I might happen to pass in as I go.
Seriously, though, you did leave out a major chunk of society when you failed to mention any religious roles, but put in Muslim man, especially since Islam ISN'T A COUNTRY OR LANDMASS OF ANY VARIETY and therefore doesn't jive with the idea of laughing at the blunders of Europeans (what of European muslims, eh? Must they mock themselves).
Finally, there is no minister/adviser, and that is where "teh shit" is because no one assasinates advisers, they always aim for the King.

However, now that I am done bitching, of the roles available I picked the knight, since they get a 4 Attack score, 2 Movement points per turn, and can be upgraded to Cavalry when their controller researches Military Tradition.

And I thought I didn't like you. But not only did you reference Chess... you play Civilization!!! I'm so down with teh Civ.

Me... I'd be King. You can't beat the King. Unless you checkmate him. But that's not easy.

Oh wait looked it up according to sources no one knows where it originated but its suppose to have come from either Asia or Ancient Egypt... in some ways this pisses me off even more because you automatically assume Asia means China.. bias..
These is no evidence or clear idea at all, at least the crusades can be proven your just sprouting theories
It is generally accepted, however, that the bubonic plague entered Europe through Italian merchants fleeing a Mongol seige of a city on the black sea. The Mongols catapulted diseased corpses into the city.

It is generally accepted, however, that the bubonic plague entered Europe through Italian merchants fleeing a Mongol seige of a city on the black sea. The Mongols catapulted diseased corpses into the city.
Then it was the Mongols not the Chinese shish!!
Sigh were getting way off topic so shall we all return to the original topic....

:upyours:

:p

:upyours:
okay...may I ask who that is pointed at

actually, the chinese started the plauge. they had it long before europe and made a vaccine for it

actually, the chinese started the plauge. they had it long before europe and made a vaccine for it
From mucus!!!!!!! :D

It isn’t technically a vaccine, but it is a primitive form of inoculation.

Please don’t diss Europe. I’m kind of European here. Like I said, all cultures have good and bad qualities. What makes Genghis Khan’s massacres any better or any worse than the crusades?
Genghis Khan was a benevolent dictator. He was the best warrior one Earth. He gave cities the chance to surrender, if they didn't, hard cheese on them.

Who cares....rather have something that can potentially save my life then to die because I don't know how to utilize my mucus :D

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Genghis Khan was a benevolent dictator. He was the best warrior one Earth. He gave cities the chance to surrender, if they didn't, hard cheese on them.

Benevolent dictator....thats what nationstates says I am...that isn't very good you know that...
personally I think he was one of the greatest military leaders on earth but definetely not the best warrior if a knight got a fast horse and got into melee with him, he would get PWN faster then you could blink

im evil :sniper:

actually, the mongol mangudai could kick the ass off a knight

im evil :sniper:

No you aren't your just some wierdo who puts smiles all over the place, you haven't said an interesting thing the entire time :p :D

read my other posts
when the chinese invented the Chu Ku No
they invented the first automatic wepon.
it was a 6 shooter crossbow

Who cares....rather have something that can potentially save my life then to die because I don't know how to utilize my mucus :D
I didn’t say anything was wrong with it. And who says I have to be afraid for my life to cover myself in someone else’s mucus? It would be someone else’s mucus, not your own.

Doesn't anyone read my posts? Everything you say, I've just clarified.

Assuming for a moment that females could be cardinals, I would be a wicked and corrupt cardinal sullying the name of Christ for my own profit and glory :D

Then there's the whole hellfire thing when I die...hmm....ok, forget that >.>;


I would be a queen! That way, I could take more than 1-2 baths a year :)

I didn’t say anything was wrong with it. And who says I have to be afraid for my life to cover myself in someone else’s mucus? It would be someone else’s mucus, not your own.

How did they gather it....

read my other posts
when the chinese invented the Chu Ku No
they invented the first automatic wepon.
it was a 6 shooter crossbow

OOO didn't see that... by the way I think it was invented by Zhuge Liang

neato.
do you think a hunish tarkan could beat down a european knight with their standard weapons
- a torch an whip and scimitar
against
-a sword and shield and axe

How did they gather it....
Look up the history of inoculation if you’re so interested.

neato.
do you think a hunish tarkan could beat down a european knight with their standard weapons
- a torch an whip and scimitar
against
-a sword and shield and axe

hmm it really matters, I think if the Turk was skillful enough he could wrap the whip around the horses leg and pull it down before burning the knight (which is slow because of heavy armor) and the horse at the same time... However since I don't think most Hunish Turks were this well trained I would have to go with the Knight

Knight, that way I can go beat up the silly Asian and Muslim laughing at me while their silly blows bounce off my armor :D

mwahahahahahaha
the tarkans were very trained
far, far more trained than any knight in europe

Ok, dealing with hygene back then.
Hygene is infused today with much mithology, owing to the fact that it has been state propaganda for so long. It is and isn't dangerous on so many levels that discussing how many times they bathed is absurd.
I agree it might have been yukey (especially, from our modern and European perspective). And uncomfortable (although, people knew they had the possibility to bathe and did not... what does that say?). But it being dangerous is very exagerated (unless in the obvious cases: delievering a baby, perfong surgery etc. - although, if I was to shove my unwashed hand into an open wound it wouldn't necessarily become infected; also, hygene standards have only been enforced by doctors well after the apperance of identifiable modern medicine - early 1900s).

Ok, dealing with hygene back then.
Hygene is infused today with much mithology, owing to the fact that it has been state propaganda for so long. It is and isn't dangerous on so many levels that discussing how many times they bathed is absurd.
I agree it might have been yukey (especially, from our modern and European perspective). And uncomfortable (although, people knew they had the possibility to bathe and did not... what does that say?). But it being dangerous is very exagerated (unless in the obvious cases: delievering a baby, perfong surgery etc. - although, if I was to shove my unwashed hand into an open wound it wouldn't necessarily become infected; also, hygene standards have only been enforced by doctors well after the apperance of identifiable modern medicine - early 1900s).


Unbathed people stink. So yeah, Hygiene would be right under food on my basic necessities list.

Unbathed people stink. So yeah, Hygiene would be right under food on my basic necessities list.
you no like stinkey?

you no like stinkey?

They need to make public showers for the homeless. It would benefit all members of society, rich and poor. :D

ya,what would they use,plumbing?

They need to make public showers for the homeless. It would benefit all members of society, rich and poor. :D
on theother hand..... they never did seperate genders in this era.
watch out ladies, dont drop the soap

mwahahahahahahhahahahahahaha :fluffle:

mwahahahahahaha
the tarkans were very trained
far, far more trained than any knight in europe

I certainly hope you're not talking about this Tarkan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkan)


:D

I certainly hope you're not talking about this Tarkan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkan)


:D
hell no im not

Unbathed people stink. So yeah, Hygiene would be right under food on my basic necessities list.
My point was more on the line of:
Medieval society did not fall pray to diseases because of poor hygene. You want a culprit? Underfeeding, with a very basic diet (chronic lack of nutrients, staple crops and just that etc.)

I certainly hope you're not talking about this Tarkan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkan)


:D
Sikidim.
It says:
"His English language album is due to be released in the Spring 2005 as Tarkan has re-started the album several times."
I forsee failure.

now that i think of it, im totally for public showers.
ill bring the soapso the ladies drop it
genius
:fluffle:
see pg. 5

mwahahahahhahahahahhahaaha

hell no im not

Then you might want to be a bit more specific in the future, because that Tarkan sure as hell isn't goint to defeat me even without wearing any armor and such

i said the tarkans which carried torches whips and scimitars



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:upyours:

sorry about the harshness.

it had to be done

i said the tarkans which carried torches whips and scimitars
So, he's done with music? He finally realised he sucks at it? And a whip of all things...

you dropped the soap didn't you? :gundge:

i said the tarkans which carried torches whips and scimitars



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Well you only said Tarkans, not "tarkans with whips, torches and scimitars" (although that could still mean the singer, if that's his cup of tea :D )

And I don't see how that's going to defeat me wearing plate armor, carring a shield and weilding any availible weapons.

Yet another somewhat bizarre post from Sel Appa. Please await poll before posting.
a serf, or an asian that laughs at european things.
i was going to say serf until you said that, cause i thought you'd ment chinese or tibetan serf.

Mmmm... Caustic.

Merchant, they have freedom to travel, and aren't as much of a target as a King. Plus you get to buy things all over the world

I'd love to be a wench, but my boobs are too small to make enough clevage... so I'll go with peasant

Either some big and powerful regional Chinese warlord, or a knight or samurai because codes of honor are cool. And if I wanted to be evil, I suppose I could be a Mongolian general... :)

I'd love to be a wench, but my boobs are too small to make enough clevage... so I'll go with peasant

They have clothes capable of "fixing" that... ;) :D

They have clothes capable of "fixing" that... ;) :D
Wow... these must be some magic garments that you are talking about.

I'd be a Polish hussar so I can ride about pwning knights. ;)

Why isn't there a 'village idiot' option?

I had no clue that Renaissance Man, Muslim and Asian were jobs!

But thank you for providing a very entertaining poll (especially if you've ever played Castle).

King: A very good option. You get all manner of people serving you, a personal army of bodyguards, no need to go out and fight if you dont want to, banquets and servants, and the politics are fragmented enough that you dont really have to make that many decisions. The only drawback? You are marked for death should your kingdom ever fall. Still, I believe the benefits outweigh that risk, this is the one I chose.
Lord: another great option, arguably better than King. But Lords typically do have to fight.
Knight: a terrible job. having to fight while wearing hundreds of pounds of metal is not my idea of a good time. During the summer, your armor becomes a portable furnace. During winter it becomes a portable ice box. If you fall, it is nearly impossible to get back up. You can barely move yet are expected to fight. People who voted for this obviously havent thought it through very well.
Peasant-can leave manor: This is a broad category and can be good or bad depending on your actual job, but with Lord and King as an option, there is no reason to choose this.
Serf-cannot leave manor: This isnt bad, but with Lord and King as options, why would you choose it?
Merchant: A great job. Less dangerous than being Lord or King, but retaining the ability to be wealthy enough to be comfortable. You dont get all the servants, but you dont have to do back breaking work either.
Soldier: See Knight.
Renaissance Man: This isnt a job, wtf?
Muslim that laughs at Europe's blunders: see Renaissance man
Asian that laughs at Europe's blunders: see Muslim

Lord, cuz I'd be German
And my name would be Herrgott Baltzer

Mr. God Embalmer :)

The alchemist.
Heh heh.
Me too. I was looking for an option along those lines myself.

I'd be a Polish hussar so I can ride about pwning knights. ;)
If you live in Trotskygrad, I figure the very last thing you'd want to be is a Polish hussar - unless it's a choice between that and a Georgian semi-illiterate dwarf. :)

Hey, where's a Roman Catholic Cardinal?

I'd love to be a wench, but my boobs are too small to make enough clevage... so I'll go with peasant
Same here :(

If you live in Trotskygrad, I figure the very last thing you'd want to be is a Polish hussar - unless it's a choice between that and a Georgian semi-illiterate dwarf. :)


Luckily my fictional city doesn't care if you're Polish, Russian or Ukrainian, or from anywhere else for that matter. :p

And I don't see how that's going to defeat me wearing plate armor, carring a shield and weilding any availible weapons.

The whip has the advantage in range over most melee weapons. Additionally, it can ensnare your limbs if the wielder is any good. A knight who has his feet yanked from him is rather down for the count. After that, it's a quick dagger thrust through the visor.

Don't laugh at the whips. They can be nasty things if you know what you are doing.

That being said, I pick the Atlantean Archon :p

I've read through this whole thread and noone has mentioned that in Medieval Europe. Lords were Knights. There were the only ones who could afford the armor, weapons and horse. Also, there were the only ones who had the time to train. Plus, they had to protect their own fiefs. So, If you are a Knight it means you own land and owning land means you are a Lord, Because they are the only ones who owned any land.
So I would be a Lord and I'd invite all those ladies who said they would be wenches to come to my Castle.

Luckily my fictional city doesn't care if you're Polish, Russian or Ukrainian, or from anywhere else for that matter. :p
I meant to say that a Hussar would be a problem for a Trotskite, not a Pole (I mean, come on! Dzerzinski!?). Ever heard of Pilsudski? He was into gloryfing the Hussars, and he kicked Trotski's ass big time.

Being a lord will be more freeing than a king. Lots of times you can ignore him and he can not do anything. His lords have the army!

where is "blacksmith"?

I wouldn't call "Arab" and "Asian" "jobs". More, "ethnicities".

Anyway, I choose Pope. Preferably one of the later ones that had a bunch of mistresses and illegitimate children.

where is "blacksmith"?

I wouldn't call "Arab" and "Asian" "jobs". More, "ethnicities".

Anyway, I choose Pope. Preferably one of the later ones that had a bunch of mistresses and illegitimate children.
....And then got murdered

Coo'. No gong-farmer option? I'm disappointed...:(

Knight: a terrible job. having to fight while wearing hundreds of pounds of metal is not my idea of a good time. During the summer, your armor becomes a portable furnace. During winter it becomes a portable ice box. If you fall, it is nearly impossible to get back up. You can barely move yet are expected to fight. People who voted for this obviously havent thought it through very well.
And this is why I wish people would bother with some research. Contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, wearing a full suit of plate did not turn you into a lumbering slow-moving monster. Yes it weighed a lot, but unlike a shirt of maile all that weight was evenly distributed around your entire body; a knight in plate could jump from one horse to another or do cartwheels. You're only going to suffer if it's a particularly hot summer and you're not keeping yourself cool, or you forgot to wear some warm clothing during the winter.

The whip has the advantage in range over most melee weapons. Additionally, it can ensnare your limbs if the wielder is any good. A knight who has his feet yanked from him is rather down for the count. After that, it's a quick dagger thrust through the visor.
A few feet at most, against a charging knight you might get one crack (which will probably be blocked by his shield) before he's upon you and sending his sword through your skull. There's a reason some wepons weren't very proliferate on the battlefield ;)

Asians and Muslims had similar jobs and it worked better for me to just have a seperate category for them. The poll was a bad idea, I should have just made a list of suggestions. Whoever said lord=knight is wrong. Knights were below lords, they fought for lords who provided soldiers for kings.

Asians and Muslims had similar jobs and it worked better for me to just have a seperate category for them. The poll was a bad idea, I should have just made a list of suggestions. Whoever said lord=knight is wrong. Knights were below lords, they fought for lords who provided soldiers for kings.
The poll wouldn't be so bad if you had ditched the Muslim (once again I ask, though, what about Muslims who also happened to be European citizens? Did they have to look in the mirror and giggle all the time?) and Asian options and stuck an "other" and a "Myrth" (because Myrth is timeless, after all, and was probably about with the kings and queens) in there.

The poll wouldn't be so bad if you had ditched the Muslim (once again I ask, though, what about Muslims who also happened to be European citizens? Did they have to look in the mirror and giggle all the time?) and Asian options and stuck an "other" and a "Myrth" (because Myrth is timeless, after all, and was probably about with the kings and queens) in there.
It was illegal to be Moslem in Christian lands (and you were NOT a "citizen" - the concept belongs to the XVIIIth century). As a Moslem who lived in European Moslem lands, you just had to giggle. Although, many Christians in Moslem European lands did not get the joke.

Knight and lord are not interchangeable, but a person could very well be both a knight and a lord.

Knight and lord are not interchangeable, but a person could very well be both a knight and a lord.
Not really, but I guess it could happen. A knight would rule a fiefdom when not fighting. A lord would rule many fiefdoms and didn't always fight.

Anyway, this isn't really for debate. It is for...well, look at the title.