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Yesterday marks my second trip to MEPS up in Albany. i finally got everything squared away, the police thing isn't an issue, my facebones aren't going to be a problem, and all i need to do is get my braces off, which i'll do before the end of the month.

I didn't get sworn in because the facebone documentation has to be read by the doctor who "didn't have the time" today, so i'll get my next, and hopefully final appointment on thursday.

after that, i just have to worry about the fitness test, which i'll ace because i'm working on it. i have to do twelve push-ups and run one mile in 8 minutes to get in. after that i ship out to basic, then after the nine weeks i'll go to Ft. Knox for AIT. or do both Basic and AIT at Ft. Knox. either way, i'm as good as in.

each round trip costs my recruiter/the Government $50 in gas, and God knows how much in food and the hotel bill, which comes from the Taxpayers, so, i'm sorry for wasting your taxes, but i promise i'll be worth it. if you don't pay taxes, then screw you.

a few things; when the service liason sends you to lunch, it's never a good thing. make sure to have your braces out before going to MEPS, and finally, the hamburgers and french fries they serve in the cafeteria are the best.
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Erm... ok. Your decision, after all.

It's your choice.

Why?

Why?
Um ... probably because he sees it as a good thing to do both for the Country and for his future. Ya think? :D

Um ... probably because he sees it as a good thing to do both for the Country and for his future. Ya think? :D

I never understood that, to be honest. But then, that's just me.

"I'm enlisting"

Let me know if there's any way I can help ... information, whatever.

I admire you, and wish you the very best!

I never understood that, to be honest. But then, that's just me.
Well, all I can say is that I've never regretted my decision to join all those years ago, and I went through two years in 'Nam.

Um ... probably because he sees it as a good thing to do both for the Country and for his future. Ya think? :D
I suppose. I don't really have a problem with the idea if it's a carefully researched, well thought out decision. And certainly a volunteer army is better than the draft.

Well, all I can say is that I've never regretted my decision to join all those years ago, and I went through two years in 'Nam.

Not wanting to diminish anything, and believe me, I'm glad you're here posting and all... but I don't really regard that as an achievement.
Staying alive, yes. Trying your best there, yes. Having been there in the first place, no.

But I think I'd better stop posting now, my opinion doesn't really belong in a thread like that, I guess. ;)

Not wanting to diminish anything, and believe me, I'm glad you're here posting and all... but I don't really regard that as an achievement.
Staying alive, yes. Trying your best there, yes. Having been there in the first place, no.

But I think I'd better stop posting now, my opinion doesn't really belong in a thread like that, I guess. ;)
Hon, if the anti-war protestors during the 60s couldn't diminish my service, I seriously doubt anyone now living can do so. :)

And your opinion belongs here just as much as does anyone else's.

Best wishes, Ramsia. You have my respect and thanks.

after that, i just have to worry about the fitness test, which i'll ace because i'm working on it. i have to do twelve push-ups and run one mile in 8 minutes to get in. after that i ship out to basic, then after the nine weeks i'll go to Ft. Knox for AIT. or do both Basic and AIT at Ft. Knox. either way, i'm as good as in.

The twelve push-ups thing is just to fool you. Once you're in, they'll be measuring your fitness not in the number of push-ups you do, but in the number of hours you do them for.

Well...make sure you pick out what color body bag you get put in...that way we can figure out which one is you on the evening news.

Enlisting isn't a wise choice. But I suppose some people prefer of life of constant terror and death, being haunted for years afterward by the horrific things they saw on a daily basis and leading a life that makes you disliked by many of the populace because you fought a useless expensive war that was completely unnecessary.

But good luck...

Well, all I can say is that I've never regretted my decision to join all those years ago, and I went through two years in 'Nam.WOW...

and what was your daily war duties?...were you a grunt? were you on the ground killing and getting shot at?

Hon, if the anti-war protestors during the 60s couldn't diminish my service, I seriously doubt anyone now living can do so. :)Try running against Bush...and see how uncle Karl totally screws you...("diminish your service" is not the words I was looking for)

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I'm not going to join the naysayers here, because I believe the military is an honorable profession. (I tried to join the Navy when I was 18 myself, but was kept out due to my eyesight.) I may not approve of the way the Bush administration is using our military at the moment, but that's a political issue that has nothing to do with the men and women in uniform.

So good luck to you, and congratulations.

Best wishes. Good luck in helping defend this country.

Well...make sure you pick out what color body bag you get put in...that way we can figure out which one is you on the evening news.

Enlisting isn't a wise choice. But I suppose some people prefer of life of constant terror and death, being haunted for years afterward by the horrific things they saw on a daily basis and leading a life that makes you disliked by many of the populace because you fought a useless expensive war that was completely unnecessary.

But good luck...

Ramsia, don't listen to cowards like this. The people of this nation will respect you; they will be proud of you for what you're going to do. They may not like the war, but they will understand that you're defending their country. Most people anyways.

I just enlisted as well. I've gotten this reaction from a couple of people. Cowards is all they are. They can't or won't defend our country. Ignore them.

9 weeks of basic...so you joined the Army or do the other branches have 9 weeks of Basic too...I hadn't thought so, but I forget easily.

I'm shipping out on Sept. 22 for Basic at Fort Jackson, SC then 13 weeks at Fort Lee, VA for AIT. After that I'll be going to Korea, where I'll be a Petroleum Supply Specialist. What job did you pick?


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Good luck to you! Be safe wherever you end up!
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A profession that involves killing is none I can endorse or find honourable. But good luck to you, and I hope your stint helps you outgrow the puerility of the "yahweh ackbar pregnant dogs" comment.

A profession that involves killing is none I can endorse or find honourable.

Not all military jobs involve killing people. I'll be fueling up anything (land, air or water vehicles)that takes petroleum of any kind. I may never have to pull the trigger of my sidearm.

A profession that involves killing is none I can endorse or find honourable. But good luck to you, and I hope your stint helps you outgrow the puerility of the "yahweh ackbar pregnant dogs" comment.

Tell me one thing:
most people outside military assume, that being a soldier means to be trained to kill other people only. Why is that?

While there may be some wakkos, most soldiers would prefer not to be in the situation where they have to kill people (because this mostly means YOUR ass is under fire, too! Besides, even soldiers are still human...). Sometimes it is necessary. Sure. But so it is for policemen.

Not honourable, hm? I mean, being a cop...

Tell me one thing:
most people outside military assume, that being a soldier means to be trained to kill other people only. Why is that?

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Ramsia, don't listen to cowards like this. The people of this nation will respect you; they will be proud of you for what you're going to do. They may not like the war, but they will understand that you're defending their country. Most people anyways.

I just enlisted as well. I've gotten this reaction from a couple of people. Cowards is all they are. They can't or won't defend our country. Ignore them.

*snip*

Feel free to point out exactly what makes me a coward? My lack of desire to go overseas to fight a pointless battle against people in their own country that in no way helps to strengthen or defend my country?

As far as military service, I am not capable due to the lack of a certain internal organ (long story and not really pertinent, but I don't have a spleen), which the military feels each soldier needs (and they are right). Even if I was able, I wouldn't volunteer at this point as we are just wasting young people's lives there (this ths opinion of a friend of mine stationed in Baghdad watching his high school buddies get shot at daily, occassionally injured, occassionally killed).

So how does this make me a coward? Actually, I believe it makes me an informed resistor. I know both sides of the issue and I'm not blinded by Patriotic bullshit spewed by some recruiter who could care less what happens to you once you're on the bus so long as he can keep his #'s up.

If you want to do your duty and help America, volunteer for the national guard and ask for Hurricane duty. Iraq is a place we don't belong.

Best of luck to ya Ramsia
I'm joining the Australian Infantry in February.
12 push ups?? we have to do 15 hehe
lol i'm sure your taxes will repay all travel costs.

Best of luck to ya Ramsia
I'm joining the Australian Infantry in February.
12 push ups?? we have to do 15 hehe
lol i'm sure your taxes will repay all travel costs.

I find this interesting. For the FBI special agent Physical Fitness Test you have to do:

45 sit-ups in 60 seconds
48.4 sec 300m sprint
40 push-ups non-stop
10:00 minute 1.5 mile run

Seems harder to do that than get into the military.

Tell me one thing:
most people outside military assume, that being a soldier means to be trained to kill other people only. Why is that?...
Because.... Being a soldier means to be trained to kill other people.

Because.... Being a soldier means to be trained to kill other people.

we are trained to defend ourselves against attack.

sorry balipo 15 push-ups isn't the only thing
For the Australian army (from what i have been told by my recruiter and read)
male:
15 push-ups military style
45 sit-ups military style
shuttle run to level 7.5 = 1120 metres taking approximately 6 minutes and 30 seconds to complete.

This is just the minimum required
i dont know much about the FBI so i cant realy compare the two.

While this wouldn't be my choice, I respect your decision, and think that you're doing what you feel is right and honorable.

God bless, and Good Luck, and God Speed that you can come home to your family should you get shipped off to somewhere else in the world.

*sends him a hug*

~Rose

I find this interesting. For the FBI special agent Physical Fitness Test you have to do:

45 sit-ups in 60 seconds
48.4 sec 300m sprint
40 push-ups non-stop
10:00 minute 1.5 mile run

Seems harder to do that than get into the military.Are you kidding me?

--You Do NOT have to Live in the US..to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(GI.Jose)

--You Do NOT have to be a US Citizen to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(more GI.Jose)

--You Do NOT have to Read-and-Write Good English...to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(more GI.Jose)

--You Do NOT have to be smart ...to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(ez IQ test)

--You Do NOT have to be Psycologicaly Average(100% mentally stable)...to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(You can be on all kind of pills)

--You Do NOT need a clean Criminal Record...to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(Maybe it can even help your record)

for more information just Call 1-800-USA-ARMY, ext. 181.
Or Click this http://www.goarmy.com/contact/email_us.jsp

Good Luck !!!

we are trained to defend ourselves against attack.

And that's exactly why soldiers are sent to other countries. To defend ourselves...against attack....HEY!! That sounds like we are the attackers!

hmm...

I disagree with the war you will be getting yourself involved in (Iraq will by my guess, or maybe Iran, Syria, North Korea, China.)

But from one person to another, I wish you well, and good health.

I hope you come back in one piece, physically and mentally.

I hope that your family recognise you when get home, and don't ask "You've changed! Why don't you talk to us anymore, why don't you laugh?!"

I hope what you experience won't give you nightmares.

I hope you don't wake up screaming the house down from those nightmares, while attacking your partner because you think they are the enemy.

I hope you don't lose friends in your unit.

I hope you don't kill anyone without reason.

I hope you keep your wits about you, your head down, and that you dodge bullets, shells, bombs but not the moral challenges you will face.

I hope you are not killed.


I can hope, can't I?

Good luck.

Why?

the $10,000 enlistment bonus, the state paycheck, the federal paycheck, the 100% tuition assistance, the fact that they let me play with a giant gun and high explosives, the chance to travel to other countries and actually learn about the people there and not have to rely on propoganda to form my oppinions, the health benefits, and the fact that My father served three consecutive tours as an Airforce Truck driver in Vietnam, my grandfather was a Master Sergeant with a machinegun regiment in WW2, my great grandfather was in the 7th Cav, both my uncles served in the 101st Airborne in Vietnam, and everyone else in my family served in some capacity or another since they immigrated from Scotland prior to the Civil War, and i can trace my family's military history back to the army of Wiliam the conquoror.

i think that's enough of a reason.


I'm shipping out on Sept. 22 for Basic at Fort Jackson, SC then 13 weeks at Fort Lee, VA for AIT. After that I'll be going to Korea, where I'll be a Petroleum Supply Specialist. What job did you pick?


I'll be going into the Army National guard as an M1A2 crewman. I'll probably be deployed to Iraq with the rest of My unit, the 1-101st CAV.


Are you kidding me?

--You Do NOT have to Live in the US..to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(GI.Jose)

--You Do NOT have to be a US Citizen to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(more GI.Jose)

--You Do NOT have to Read-and-Write Good English...to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(more GI.Jose)

--You Do NOT have to be smart ...to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(ez IQ test)

--You Do NOT have to be Psycologicaly Average(100% mentally stable)...to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(You can be on all kind of pills)

--You Do NOT need a clean Criminal Record...to Kill and Die for the Occupation Army.(Maybe it can even help your record)

fail.

You DO have to be a citizen to enlist in the Armed forces.

You DO have to be Literate to enlist in the Armed Forces.

You DO have to be smart to enlist in the US Armed Forces.

You DO have to be stable to enlist in the Armed Forces.

You DO have to have a clean criminal record to enlist in the Armed Forces.

Infact, anything involving violence gets you automatically disqualified. and unpayed traffic ticket is automatic disqualification. any medication for ADD is automatic disqualification. pins in weight bearing bones in automatic disqualification.

And you do have to have at least a highschool diploma to enlist, though a GED is preferred. because they'll just give you a diploma after nough years of highschool. you have to work to get a GED. the National Guard is doing this thing where they actually ship you out to Richmond, and then have you take GED classes while you train, and you get payed for it!


Seems harder to do that than get into the military.

i just have to do 1 mile in 8 min. and 12 push ups to be able to ship out, after that the push-ups shoot up to 35.


I hope you come back in one piece, physically and mentally.

I hope that your family recognise you when get home, and don't ask "You've changed! Why don't you talk to us anymore, why don't you laugh?!"

I hope what you experience won't give you nightmares.

I hope you don't wake up screaming the house down from those nightmares, while attacking your partner because you think they are the enemy.

I hope you don't lose friends in your unit.

I hope you don't kill anyone without reason.

I hope you keep your wits about you, your head down, and that you dodge bullets, shells, bombs but not the moral challenges you will face.

I hope you are not killed.


One could say that i was never all there to begin with.

They'll be able to recognise me easily. i laugh alot. and will continue to. Humor is how i deal with stress and things like that.

I don't dream anyway.

that never happened to my father.

i probably will. it's sort of an occupational hazard.

is throwing rocks at my tank a good enough reason? what about someone who simply jumps under the treads while i'm driving down the road?

i do that all the time anyway.

i'm invincible.





thank you all for your concern.






finally, the "Yahweh Ackbar" comment is just a bit of ironic humor. a guy is shouting "Jehova is great" in arabic from a Nazi tank.

One could say that i was never all there to begin with.


Some of those who disagree with your enlisting probably agree.


They'll be able to recognise me easily. i laugh alot. and will continue to. Humor is how i deal with stress and things like that.


I hope your laugh and humour don't become empty. I hope you don't become hollow and empty. I hope you will still be able to smile and laugh.


I don't dream anyway.


I hope for your sake it stays that way.


that never happened to my father.


Does not mean it won't happen to you.



i probably will. it's sort of an occupational hazard.


Occupational being the word.

hazard being the understatement.



is throwing rocks at my tank a good enough reason? what about someone who simply jumps under the treads while i'm driving down the road?


It depends on your thought process, and what you think is enough to fire your ammo, and what you think may haunt you later in life.

You will be greeted by more than people jumping under your tracks, and throwing rocks.

Over 1,800 US Soldiers would testify to this.


If they were alive.




i do that all the time anyway.


For you and your familiy's sake, I hope this will be the case.


i'm invincible.


Say the doomed.

I was joking, it's my humor, you see. it's very dry and morbid. so i can't very well lose it to war.


Prior to the Battle of Thermopolae, a Greek soldier said to a Spartan "The persian Archers are so numerous that their arrows will block out the sun."

The Spartain replied "Then we will have our battle in the shade."

This was one of those jokes that are reassuringly arrogant. it's just said so you can chuckle and be on your way. all three hundred Spartain Hoplites died at Termopolae to cover the retreat of the rest of the greek taskforce. they were literally buried under the persian arrows.


The way i see it, if i lose my sense of humor, i lose my humanity and my only way to keep sane. so i'll keep making jokes, i'll keep laughing, and i'll remain light hearted, no matter what i run into.

You should look into Up Front! (http://oddlots.digitalspace.net/upfront/upfront.html) it was made by Bill Mauldin in stars and stripes during WW2, and for a while after. it shows real war from the soldiers perspective, as only a soldier can show. I plan on doing this while i'm serving, only in a slightly (http://upload.localnetsys.com/upload/september05/Mortarball.jpg) different (http://upload.localnetsys.com/upload/september05/USAFBombshell.jpg) fashion. (http://upload.localnetsys.com/upload/september05/Britbuggy.jpg)

after that, i just have to worry about the fitness test, which i'll ace because i'm working on it. i have to do twelve push-ups and run one mile in 8 minutes to get in.
In order to graduate Basic Training, you have to much more than that. This is just to get in. ANd if you are unable to do this minimum, they put you in a special program until you can. And this is all before you even get to Basic Trianing.
Good luck to you. I am a 10 year veteran of the Army, getting out in a week. I am glad there are young people courageous enough to replace me.

Well...make sure you pick out what color body bag you get put in...that way we can figure out which one is you on the evening news.

Enlisting isn't a wise choice. But I suppose some people prefer of life of constant terror and death, being haunted for years afterward by the horrific things they saw on a daily basis and leading a life that makes you disliked by many of the populace because you fought a useless expensive war that was completely unnecessary.

But good luck...
if you are an american, you must be
a. really out of touch with reality
b. really ungrateful
c. both.

why, because there are many things that you are on the benefitting end of that our military has provided for you. and preferring a life of terror and death, as you put it, just may be code name for BEING BRAVE, and HAVING A PURPOSE- DRIVEN LIFE. what the hell do you all day? are you actually putting down someones elses dream? as negative as i can be, i would not even do that.

Cliche or not, we military folk lay our asses on the line to defend everyone's right to hate, disparage and generally badmouth our decision.

Don't let it get you down, OP. Keep your head down and come back alive.

Best of luck to you.

In order to graduate Basic Training, you have to much more than that. This is just to get in. ANd if you are unable to do this minimum, they put you in a special program until you can. And this is all before you even get to Basic Trianing.

we went over that.


Good luck to you. I am a 10 year veteran of the Army, getting out in a week. I am glad there are young people courageous enough to replace me.
Thank you. I'll make sure to live up to the uniform.

Well...make sure you pick out what color body bag you get put in...that way we can figure out which one is you on the evening news.

Okay, my coffin will be the one under an American flag.

Antre_Travarious'] I am a 10 year veteran of the Army, getting out in a week. I am glad there are young people courageous enough to replace me.

I'm glad that there were brave people like yourself to ensure that Ramsia and I even had this chioce.

Congratulations on your 10 years. Good luck in whatever you choose to do once you're out.

Thank you for defending this great nation.

I disagree with the war you will be getting yourself involved in (Iraq will by my guess, or maybe Iran, Syria, North Korea, China.)

But from one person to another, I wish you well, and good health.

I hope you come back in one piece, physically and mentally.

I hope that your family recognise you when get home, and don't ask "You've changed! Why don't you talk to us anymore, why don't you laugh?!"

I hope what you experience won't give you nightmares.

I hope you don't wake up screaming the house down from those nightmares, while attacking your partner because you think they are the enemy.

I hope you don't lose friends in your unit.

I hope you don't kill anyone without reason.

I hope you keep your wits about you, your head down, and that you dodge bullets, shells, bombs but not the moral challenges you will face.

I hope you are not killed.


I can hope, can't I?

Good luck.
That's dispicable. You obviously have no shame whatsoever.

Well...make sure you pick out what color body bag you get put in...that way we can figure out which one is you on the evening news.

Enlisting isn't a wise choice. But I suppose some people prefer of life of constant terror and death, being haunted for years afterward by the horrific things they saw on a daily basis and leading a life that makes you disliked by many of the populace because you fought a useless expensive war that was completely unnecessary.

But good luck...

It's fine to have an opinion, which you've stated, but suggesting that he pick out what color body bag he'd like to be put in is extremely rude. Yea, it may be your opinion of the war, and you're entitled to it, but when someone decides to enlist into to the military, the least you could do is be a little more respectful.

~Euroslavia, Forum Moderator~

Yea, it may be your opinion of the war, and you're entitled to it, but when someone decides to enlist into to the military, the least you could do is be a little more respectful.

Are we to take it that this applies solely to the military, or should it also apply to any form of employment?

I myself have been seriously considering enlisting, but for reasons entirely of my own.

I'm already a military brat (Air Force Mother, soon to retire) and as it stands, my family is out of money for education and I don't have my degree. My only real choice is a student loan, or to enlist in the USAF. A part of me would love to enlist, go to school, serve for however many years suits me, and get out - both financially stable and educated, as upposed to neither and without the resources to change that on my own. Only thing stopping me is the risk of severe injury over in Iraq. Maybe when things cool down. I don't feel strongly enough about the war to head on over and risk coming back sans legs/arms/privates. :p

As for the OP, I wish you luck and hope for your safety. It's a jungle out there. Make your fellow countryfolk proud. :)

I don't feel strongly enough about the war to head on over and risk coming back sans legs/arms/privates. :p
Well, I came back from Vietnam without my privates, but that's because most of them decided to re-enlist. :D

Are we to take it that this applies solely to the military, or should it also apply to any form of employment?

It is simply polite to be respectful towards someone's career choice - especially when they are, in essence, putting their necks out and signing their lives away for the country. Sure, some wars you may or may not agree with, but that does not diminish the sacrifice these guys make.

As far as other career choices, I'd be just as respectful for someone choosing to become a police officer, firefighter, er even an EMT.


Different story when someone says, "I'm going to be a Graphic Designer," (like me...). Not much of a vital service or sacrifice made for the sake of others. Just sick back and have an effective and artistic way of seeing things. Woop!

Well, I came back from Vietnam without my privates, but that's because most of them decided to re-enlist. :D

Good stuff. They've obvious got more balls than I. :D

Good stuff. They've obvious got more balls than I. :D
ROFLMAO!!! Good one! :D

Well, I came back from Vietnam without my privates, but that's because most of them decided to re-enlist. :D
forrest....i didnt know you sustained that type of injury. your libido is simply amazing......

And that's exactly why soldiers are sent to other countries. To defend ourselves...against attack....HEY!! That sounds like we are the attackers!

hmm...



I see the concept of the preemptive strike is lost on you.

I myself have been seriously considering enlisting, but for reasons entirely of my own.

I'm already a military brat (Air Force Mother, soon to retire) and as it stands, my family is out of money for education and I don't have my degree. My only real choice is a student loan, or to enlist in the USAF. A part of me would love to enlist, go to school, serve for however many years suits me, and get out - both financially stable and educated, as upposed to neither and without the resources to change that on my own. Only thing stopping me is the risk of severe injury over in Iraq. Maybe when things cool down. I don't feel strongly enough about the war to head on over and risk coming back sans legs/arms/privates.

As for the OP, I wish you luck and hope for your safety. It's a jungle out there. Make your fellow countryfolk proud.


Both my parents are retired Air Force Reserves. the actually met in the 70th APS at Homestead AFB. Trust me on this, the Air Force is the theird safest branch of the service, just behind the Navy and Coast Guard Hell, unless you're a fighter/helicopter pilot, PJ, MP, or something like that, you'll probably never see any combat at all. because you'll probably be stationed on an airbase working on the planes or behind a desk.

but let me reccomend C130 Pilot as your MOS. Best, job, ever.

Both my parents are retired Air Force Reserves. the actually met in the 70th APS at Homestead AFB. Trust me on this, the Air Force is the theird safest branch of the service, just behind the Navy and Coast Guard Hell, unless you're a fighter/helicopter pilot, PJ, MP, or something like that, you'll probably never see any combat at all. because you'll probably be stationed on an airbase working on the planes or behind a desk.

but let me reccomend C130 Pilot as your MOS. Best, job, ever.

Indeed. Hence the joke-name Chair Force. Heh.

That'd be pretty badass, really. I had the chance to get a private pilots license cheap but I blew that one. My connection to the cheap aviation moved to Texas. Le Sigh.

Aviation would be quite awesome though, although I don't know what would interest the most of the jobs I'd have available.

It is simply polite to be respectful towards someone's career choice -

Of this I am aware, politeness is not something I am railing against.

...especially when they are, in essence, putting their necks out and signing their lives away for the country. Sure, some wars you may or may not agree with, but that does not diminish the sacrifice these guys make.

Whether I respect them more or less if they chose to join the military or similar forces is my own concern, and it was the fact that entering the military seemed to be perhaps singled out as being worthy of particular respect by an official of the forum, speaking whilst wearing their Moderator hat, that I questioned.

I, yourself or Euroslavia are free to express whatever form of respect we believe to other people here, provided we do not breach other borum rules, but I am uneasy with a Moderator writing as Moderator and making such value judgements.

Did you say you were aiming at National Guard, Ramsia? Or regulars?

the $10,000 enlistment bonus, the state paycheck, the federal paycheck, the 100% tuition assistance, the fact that they let me play with a giant gun and high explosives, the chance to travel to other countries and actually learn about the people there and not have to rely on propoganda to form my oppinions...*snip


fail.

You DO have to be a citizen to enlist in the Armed forces.

You DO have to be Literate to enlist in the Armed Forces.

You DO have to be smart to enlist in the US Armed Forces.

You DO have to be stable to enlist in the Armed Forces.

You DO have to have a clean criminal record to enlist in the Armed Forces.

Infact, anything involving violence gets you automatically disqualified. and unpayed traffic ticket is automatic disqualification. any medication for ADD is automatic disqualification.... *snip.
Later I will address these points...one at a time. (actually I am surprised no1 picked on these)

any ways...Good Luck..."traveling around the world..and avoiding Military on base Propaganda"...

BTW what kind of TV do you think you will be watching on those foreign countries?

I, yourself or Euroslavia are free to express whatever form of respect we believe to other people here, provided we do not breach other borum rules, but I am uneasy with a Moderator writing as Moderator and making such value judgements.I am uneasy with Euroslavia "Fair and Balanced" ways...

he has already warned me for Talking against Bush....he said it was Spam.

forrest....i didnt know you sustained that type of injury. your libido is simply amazing......
ROFLMAO!!! Yup! It is, ain't it! :D

That would be a trick though ... your privates re-enlist without you! ROFL!

I am uneasy with Euroslavia "Fair and Balanced" ways...

he has already warned me for Talking against Bush....he said it was Spam.
In your case, it was! :D

As a future doctor I cannot condone this choice, a career of war, but I respect you for it. I'm going to have to watch people die and be told to be sorry about it, yet you will be trained not to feel much about it at all *sigh*

In your case, it was! :DYour are welcomed to help Euroslavia's case:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9644165#post9644165

I, yourself or Euroslavia are free to express whatever form of respect we believe to other people here, provided we do not breach other borum rules, but I am uneasy with a Moderator writing as Moderator and making such value judgements.

Gotcha, and agreed. :)

the $10,000 enlistment bonus, the state paycheck, the federal paycheck, the 100% tuition assistance, the fact that they let me play with a giant gun and high explosives, the chance to travel to other countries and actually learn about the people there and not have to rely on propoganda to form my oppinions, the health benefits, and the fact that My father served three consecutive tours as an Airforce Truck driver in Vietnam, my grandfather was a Master Sergeant with a machinegun regiment in WW2, my great grandfather was in the 7th Cav, both my uncles served in the 101st Airborne in Vietnam, and everyone else in my family served in some capacity or another since they immigrated from Scotland prior to the Civil War, and i can trace my family's military history back to the army of Wiliam the conquoror.

i think that's enough of a reason.If it's enough of a reason for you, then of course. :) With that said, I hope that in the end, you feel that your sacrifice was worth it.

As a future doctor I cannot condone this choice, a career of war, but I respect you for it. I'm going to have to watch people die and be told to be sorry about it, yet you will be trained not to feel much about it at all *sigh*
Sorry to take issue with you, but that's utter bullshit. No soldier in a democracy should ever, EVER feel other than great sorrow at taking the life of anyone, opposing force or not!

Your are welcomed to help Euroslavia's case:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9644165#post9644165
No thanks. Got my own opinions on this sort of issue, ones I prefer to keep to myself. :)

Yesterday marks my second trip to MEPS up in Albany. i finally got everything squared away, the police thing isn't an issue, my facebones aren't going to be a problem, and all i need to do is get my braces off, which i'll do before the end of the month.

I didn't get sworn in because the facebone documentation has to be read by the doctor who "didn't have the time" today, so i'll get my next, and hopefully final appointment on thursday.

after that, i just have to worry about the fitness test, which i'll ace because i'm working on it. i have to do twelve push-ups and run one mile in 8 minutes to get in. after that i ship out to basic, then after the nine weeks i'll go to Ft. Knox for AIT. or do both Basic and AIT at Ft. Knox. either way, i'm as good as in.

each round trip costs my recruiter/the Government $50 in gas, and God knows how much in food and the hotel bill, which comes from the Taxpayers, so, i'm sorry for wasting your taxes, but i promise i'll be worth it. if you don't pay taxes, then screw you.

a few things; when the service liason sends you to lunch, it's never a good thing. make sure to have your braces out before going to MEPS, and finally, the hamburgers and french fries they serve in the cafeteria are the best.
http://upload.localnetsys.com/upload/september05/MM19K.gif

Pick your first posting
(1) North Korea
(2) Syria
(3) Poland
(4) New Orleans
(5) Iraq
(6) Iran
(7) Hawaii

:D

"I'm enlisting"

Let me know if there's any way I can help ... information, whatever.

I admire you, and wish you the very best!


I echo the response made by Eutrusca. Good luck and God speed. And, thank you, in advance.....

Yesterday marks my second trip to MEPS up in Albany. i finally got everything squared away, the police thing isn't an issue, my facebones aren't going to be a problem, and all i need to do is get my braces off, which i'll do before the end of the month.

I didn't get sworn in because the facebone documentation has to be read by the doctor who "didn't have the time" today, so i'll get my next, and hopefully final appointment on thursday.

after that, i just have to worry about the fitness test, which i'll ace because i'm working on it. i have to do twelve push-ups and run one mile in 8 minutes to get in. after that i ship out to basic, then after the nine weeks i'll go to Ft. Knox for AIT. or do both Basic and AIT at Ft. Knox. either way, i'm as good as in.

each round trip costs my recruiter/the Government $50 in gas, and God knows how much in food and the hotel bill, which comes from the Taxpayers, so, i'm sorry for wasting your taxes, but i promise i'll be worth it. if you don't pay taxes, then screw you.

a few things; when the service liason sends you to lunch, it's never a good thing. make sure to have your braces out before going to MEPS, and finally, the hamburgers and french fries they serve in the cafeteria are the best.
http://upload.localnetsys.com/upload/september05/MM19K.gif

Congratulations!

Thank you!

Now... go kill some terrorists!

If at any point you have questions about not being there...

http://www.objector.org/

an open ear is always available.




The GI Rights Hotline
http://girights.objector.org/



Central Committee for Conscientious Objectors
(888) 236-2226
(215) 563-8787 Fax (215) 567-2096
1515 Cherry Street
Philadelphia, PA 19102
girights@objector.org

Pick your first posting
(1) North Korea
(2) Syria
(3) Poland
(4) New Orleans
(5) Iraq
(6) Iran
(7) Hawaii

:D

hmmm, tough one

yay for you (and ignore the people on here saying your going to die I had the same :( )

good luck and God bless....thanks for what your doing for the rest of us

If at any point you have questions about not being there...

http://www.objector.org/

an open ear is always available.




The GI Rights Hotline
http://girights.objector.org/



Central Committee for Conscientious Objectors
(888) 236-2226
(215) 563-8787 Fax (215) 567-2096
1515 Cherry Street
Philadelphia, PA 19102
girights@objector.org
Conscientious Objectors are no longer an issue. It's an all volunteer military now. Get a grip.

I'm glad that there were brave people like yourself to ensure that Ramsia and I even had this chioce.

Congratulations on your 10 years. Good luck in whatever you choose to do once you're out.

Thank you for defending this great nation.
Thank you for your appreciation. We don't hear it much outside of the military communities.