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Somebody posted the link on another site.

It would appear that the master of morality Pat Robertson has explained that God is punishing Louisiana because Ellen Degeneres is hosting the emmys(she is from New Orleans).

http://datelinehollywood.com/archives/2005/09/05/robertson-blames-hurricane-on-choice-of-ellen-deneres-to-host-emmys/

Yes Ellen we are waiting for your apology!!!

How many people actually listen to Robertson? :rolleyes:

God can freaking send a category 5 hurricane to destroy a city but he can't feed the hungry, protect the weak, or even make peace on freaking earth. UGH :headbang:

How many people actually listen to Robertson? :rolleyes:

At least one more person than really ought to.

In order to avoid further tragedy, Robertson called not only for the Television Academy to find a new heterosexual host, but to bar all homosexuals and bisexuals from taking part in the ceremony.

Clearly, Robertson has no idea what barring all homosexuals and bisexuals from the Emmys would entail.

Anyone want to take a guess on how Pat Phelps... er Robertson is going to explain this latest verbal jackassery?

Clearly, Robertson has no idea what barring all homosexuals and bisexuals from the Emmys would entail.

Wouldn't it be simpler to bar crazed lunatics like this from mass media? There's got to be some kind of ruling that can apply here. The same that prevents you from yelling fire in a crowded theatre when there isn't one is there?

Yes, yes...because a benevolent deity would obviously decimate a city of people, because one person who doesn't abide by their follower's book comes from the state that the city is a part of. Yes, that'll send the message. "Hey! You!Yes, you! No, no, just the one person. Stop being gay!"

*rolls eyes* Oy. Really, when I see him on TV, I dunno whether to laugh, or get angry.

Fake news story.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/katrina/robertson.asp

Another reason why I'm for charging God with hate crimes, murder & crimes against humanity under the Geneva Convention.

Bleh... I really hate those kind of persons. (Religous fanatics, that is, not gays) I don't know if you knew but a priest from a chapter in Canada said he was happy so many Swedes were killed by the tsunami disaster since we were too soft on homosexuals.

Why do they feel it's necessary to comment on such things? How the fu(k can people who love other people (Which sounds quite christian to me) be such a pain in the God's ass that he has to punish a whole lot of people at once, including devout christians who happens to be in the wrong place? Why not just smite all the sinners instead? I hate religion... :confused:

Fake news story.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/katrina/robertson.asp

Aww, well, damn. It does seem like something he'd say, though.

Aww, well, damn. It does seem like something he'd say, though.
Which is just as scary as if he actually did say it.

Damn! Hell with what Robertson spews, it sounded like something he would say. ;)

When you go out in search of inflamatory blind zealots expect to get inflamatory blind responses. He's entitled to his opinion as I am to think hes full of ****. I don't see how this reflects on the Christian faith however, he's certainly in the minority otherwise you would see a whole lot less non-profit religion based aid going there.

Aww, well, damn. It does seem like something he'd say, though.
Which is why a lot of us believed it, because it's completely believeable to hear something like that from Pat "9-11 was caused by gay faggot pinko liberal scum" Robertson.

How many people actually listen to Robertson? :rolleyes:
Nobody useful.

Of course we did.

Our control of world events is so overwhelming, and our evil machinations so sinister, that we can even control the weather.

Just another perk, I guess.

Of course we did.

Our control of world events is so overwhelming, and our evil machinations so sinister, that we can even control the weather.

Just another perk, I guess.

Y'know, I'm beginning to think us bisexuals get discriminated against!You gays get all the great benefits! *sighs*

Another reason why I'm for charging God with hate crimes, murder & crimes against humanity under the Geneva Convention.

After which you are immediately smitten down for associating divine power with Pat Robertson. Radical Christians honestly remind me of Al-Qaeda. Maybe they are in league...terrorists!

Y'know, I'm beginning to think us bisexuals get discriminated against!You gays get all the great benefits! *sighs*

Well, it's your heterosexual sides bringing you down. You can't expect to be wishy-washy and then be given ultimate power. It's just not the way it works. If you're going to work to undermine heterosexuality, you can't very well be complicit in it.

Meanwhile Pope Benedict XVI and the Vatican actually gave money for the Katrina disaster.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L04694453.htm

hello

while i would never consider agreeing with this statement, were it truely made by this Robertson person, and in fact occasionally define myself as gay (well, semi-) but never ever as religious,i must say that:

a. he should still be allowed to make it. just as i must be allowed to reply that anyone who says so is an idiot

b. what is more significant, i think you're all overlooking a fine (or not so fine) theological point here- we humans are supposed to be moral, god is NOT. if anyone ever read the book of job, that's more or less the point of it. i.e.:

what they teach in most schools goes: god does nasty things to job, he keeps his faith, god rewards him. however, there's a part a lot of people skip, in which, essentially, job finally goes "why?!?" and god answers (there's also a philosophical debate with his friends, before that, which i'm ommiting). each of these phases lasts 20 pages or so, but god's answer, if memory decieves me not, is something like "because". besides, if you assume a superior being, this superior being will kill you eventualy, no matter how straight you are. so it probably might as well choose any way that pleases it to do so.

This doesn't surprise me. But his logic is wrong... this was the home place of Robertson types took the brunt of the storm.... the southern US! Jeez..

hello
b. what is more significant, i think you're all overlooking a fine (or not so fine) theological point here- we humans are supposed to be moral, god is NOT. if anyone ever read the book of job, that's more or less the point of it. i.e.:

what they teach in most schools goes: god does nasty things to job, he keeps his faith, god rewards him. however, there's a part a lot of people skip, in which, essentially, job finally goes "why?!?" and god answers (there's also a philosophical debate with his friends, before that, which i'm ommiting). each of these phases lasts 20 pages or so, but god's answer, if memory decieves me not, is something like "because". besides, if you assume a superior being, this superior being will kill you eventualy, no matter how straight you are. so it probably might as well choose any way that pleases it to do so.

If God wished, he could place us all in little bubbles and ensure that we had all the food and water we needed to live a long and healthy life. Trials, adversity, and such exist to make us better developed individuals. It would be cruel of God to NOT allow us the opportunity to face challenges in life. Job faced just about every possible one there could be, and did not break or lose faith. He became a better man and was rewarded by God for being a servant both wise and faithful.

Fake news story.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/katrina/robertson.asp

Oops... oh well...

To face challenges in life? Sexuality isn't a challenge.

If God wished, he could place us all in little bubbles and ensure that we had all the food and water we needed to live a long and healthy life. Trials, adversity, and such exist to make us better developed individuals. It would be cruel of God to NOT allow us the opportunity to face challenges in life. Job faced just about every possible one there could be, and did not break or lose faith. He became a better man and was rewarded by God for being a servant both wise and faithful.

In previous editions, he did not receive any rewards at the end.

So how does Robertson explain God sending Katrina to destroy not just New Orleans, but also the southern coasts of Mississippi and Alabama? Also, Christian singer Aaron Nevelle is from New Orleans. Shouldn't that counteract the fact that a celebrity lesbian is from there also?

So how does Robertson explain God sending Katrina to destroy not just New Orleans, but also the southern coasts of Mississippi and Alabama? Also, Christian singer Aaron Nevelle is from New Orleans. Shouldn't that counteract the fact that a celebrity lesbian is from there also?

The article was a fake.. it was just satire.

He didn't actually say that. You know I wouldn't expect this to come out of Robertson's mouth.. but rather Fred Phelps. Dateline Hollywood should of used Phelps instead of Robertson because that would be more fitting. Robertson says some idiotic things, but this fits more in the Phelps MO.

This has got to be the hipocritical and stupid thing I've ever heard from a Christian:
"Because of that female's sins, God has punished [I don't know how many] of other people that were simply born in the same town as she was. Also remember that God is love and God is just."

Aaaah, Christians are te best...

OK, no more bashing Christianity over this.

Pat Robertson is to Christianity as Stalin is to Communism as Bin Laden is to Islam. There :)

In previous editions, he did not receive any rewards at the end.

I just checked my good old King James. Job got rewards beyond that he had before his trials. Nonetheless, the idea here isn't that we should follow God through thick and thin so we can get rich in earthly terms. The story would possess the same meaning either way - perservere to the end and you'll be the better for it as a person, and therefore worthy of eternal rewards, namely heaven.

OK, no more bashing Christianity over this.

Pat Robertson is to Christianity as Stalin is to Communism as Bin Laden is to Islam. There :)



I just checked my good old King James. Job got rewards beyond that he had before his trials. Nonetheless, the idea here isn't that we should follow God through thick and thin so we can get rich in earthly terms. The story would possess the same meaning either way - perservere to the end and you'll be the better for it as a person, and therefore worthy of eternal rewards, namely heaven.

The book of Job was written before the Jews had come up with a concrete idea of heaven.
And many (including myself) see that last bit where Job got rewards as an add-in, years after the book was written. Historically and theologicaly this can be affirmed.

So what then?

i think the title of the article says it all: Lesbian is New Orleans native
i mean, OMG!! :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :p

seriously, this Robertson fellow seems like such a fucktard :rolleyes:
the guy should just get real





pretty funny though :P
edit: reading it again... is this actually serious??

it doesn#t necessarily have to be robertson.. there are plenty of people who say things along the "gays have caused catrina" line.. in case you don't think you'll burn in hell forever for it, you could chance going to gay.com and lok in the news section for coverage of that.. it would be so funny would it not be real

Somebody posted the link on another site.

It would appear that the master of morality Pat Robertson has explained that God is punishing Louisiana because Ellen Degeneres is hosting the emmys(she is from New Orleans).

http://datelinehollywood.com/archives/2005/09/05/robertson-blames-hurricane-on-choice-of-ellen-deneres-to-host-emmys/

Yes Ellen we are waiting for your apology!!!
(shrug ) Makes about as much sense as blaming President Bush for it.

Y'know, I'm beginning to think us bisexuals get discriminated against!You gays get all the great benefits! *sighs*

I think it's because bisexuality seems fashionable. Snap out of it!

:D

nobody's blaming bush for it. (well, a couple, maybe. but then, a couple people believe in pink windowsills as well).

but you can blame bush for the way help was coordinated (or was not coordinated).
but again, there are probably people blaming the gays for that as well, so..

(shrug ) Makes about as much sense as blaming President Bush for it.

Except, of course, that Bush has accepted blame. (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20050914/ts_latimes/bushacceptsblameforslowhurricaneresponse)

well, bush has said a lot of things that didn't mae sense.. in fact i find it hard to discover any verbal uttering of his i found coherent and logical
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Yes, yes...because a benevolent deity would obviously decimate a city of people, because one person who doesn't abide by their follower's book comes from the state that the city is a part of. Yes, that'll send the message. "Hey! You!Yes, you! No, no, just the one person. Stop being gay!"

*rolls eyes* Oy. Really, when I see him on TV, I dunno whether to laugh, or get angry.

angry, please angry

Except, of course, that Bush has accepted blame. (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20050914/ts_latimes/bushacceptsblameforslowhurricaneresponse)
:rolleyes:

Just once, for the sake of something new, I would like to hear someone say, "This is God's punishment on the straights for breeding too much."

:fluffle:

Not really, but blaming gays is so irrational.

It's kinda like the butterfly effect.

The Sodomy Effect :eek:

Just once, for the sake of something new, I would like to hear someone say, "This is God's punishment on the straights for breeding too much."

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well, how about: this is god's punishment for the christians cuz they kept praying so much he couldn't get a nice quiet round of sleep for ages and he just wants them to shut up?

well, how about: this is god's punishment for the christians cuz they kept praying so much he couldn't get a nice quiet round of sleep for ages and he just wants them to shut up?

I can empathise with that.

I can empathise with that.
Fass as Diety? OMFG!!! LOL! :D

Fass as Diety? OMFG!!! LOL! :D

Well, I'm already divine, darling.

Okay, its a fake article, but on the other hand, there are a disturbing number of people who WOULD say things like that on telly.

Admittedly, even one person is a disturbing number.

Especially as we KNOW what causes hurricanes. [Insert metrological explanation that I cant be hooped typing here]

Ahhh, come on, surely an omnipotent being would have better things to do?

Freddie Phelps ACTUALLY SAID this tripe. Pat Robertson could be expected to say this tripe. Both will end their lives sadly as old, decrepit excuses for men, and, in the afterlife, have the most disappointing surprise ever. Let's not pay them any attention, because they're crazy babies in need for it. However, I do have a warning: If you don't follow THE GREAT WATERMELON, you'll all go to Hell! I mean it! ;)

As for the victims of Katrina that these idiots are daring to tarnish in their hate-filled agendas, they'll get better. I hope for the best for them, and wish I could do more (I'm from Brazil and have no cash of my own, unfortunately). The dead will be remembered, and will go to an ACTUAL Heaven (assuming one exists) - as opposed to the place Freddie and Pat are going to, which smells surprisingly of fire and brimstone.

As for my own belief system, I only believe that Fred and Pat will be reincarnated badly, and that the victims will reincarnate well. Peace out.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/DrkHelmet/HurricaneKatrina.jpg