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Damn it, you couldn't hold on to your panic for a couple of days could you? When does the bread, milk and tinned food riot start?

Most of the stations in my area have run dry, how is the rest of the country fairing?

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Damn it, you couldn't hold on to your panic for a couple of days could you? When does the bread, milk and tinned food riot start?

Most of the stations in my area have run dry, how is the rest of the country fairing?
Nobody's noticed here in Northern Ireland. Probably because it's getting pretty difficult to drive anywhere at the minute anyway. >_>;

No problems where I am - our petrol source is from Singapore.
And the !@#$%^&* profiteering by the oil companies is starting to piss people off.

Nobody's noticed here in Northern Ireland. Probably because it's getting pretty difficult to drive anywhere at the minute anyway. >_>;
Fair point, hope it doesn't hit you there, at least the emergency services get priority.

It makes me so mad though, a whisper of a "possible" fuel protest and the country goes mad. Just think it through people!

Why don't they have gloating smilie?

*is a bastard living in an oil rich country*

Alot more traffic on the road than usual this morning, it was just starting to get busy at our local petrol pumps.



Why don't they have gloating smilie?

Is this the one you are looking for..? >>> :D


*is a bastard living in an oil rich country*

I would'nt say that too loudly you know...President Dubya might hear...

Why don't they have gloating smilie?

*is a bastard living in an oil rich country*

But are the one who controls the oil?

Can't say that they've run dry, but I don't care. My car'll run off a full tank of petrol for a month under normal conditions, nearly 2 months if I start rationing it. And I filled it up on Sunday night, just in case :D. By the time I need a refill, it should be back to normal (if anything happens at all). It's the shortages of food I'm more worried about -- that's what you get for just-in-time stock, I guess.

Alot more traffic on the road than usual this morning, it was just starting to get busy at our local petrol pumps.

They started panic buying here yesterday lunchtime. I think the way in which fuel generally is produced, regulated and controled needs some real changes, but, by creating a panic aren't we just lining their pockets, pushing demand, and prices, ever higher?

Can't say that they've run dry, but I don't care. My car'll run off a full tank of petrol for a month under normal conditions, nearly 2 months if I start rationing it. And I filled it up on Sunday night, just in case :D. By the time I need a refill, it should be back to normal (if anything happens at all). It's the shortages of food I'm more worried about -- that's what you get for just-in-time stock, I guess.

No fuel means no fuel for the trucks which transport your food and water - it is still an issue.

Not really. Probably just making up the profits they'll lose if and when the strike happens.

The problem isn't with the companies making too much profit. Well, they do make a lot of money, but that's not the major problem. The problem comes from the government making absolutely shitloads from it -- I think something like 80% of the price of petrol is pure taxation. The government needs to cut taxes on petrol significantly if this 'crisis' is ever to go away -- it's all part of their plan to try to price people off the roads, only... it's not working and they're not offering viable alternatives, so it's nothing more than a poorly-disguised stealth tax which causes more problems than it solves.


No fuel means no fuel for the trucks which transport your food and water - it is still an issue.

Hence why I said I was more worried about food shortages. Mr car'll keep on running regardless of this fuel debacle, but I might not...

No fuel means no fuel for the trucks which transport your food and water - it is still an issue.
See! It's starting allready, there'll be standpipes in the street and looting at Asda before the day is out! Run for the hills! *aaaaaaahhh*

I was wondering why the petrol station along the road was busy last night...

The thing is its the panic buying that is causing shortages, the blockades are a fairly low likelyhood event.

As for fuel for food deliveries, it shouldn't be problem IIRC any owner of a largish fleet is required to hold at least 3 days worth of reserve fuel stocks.
During the last set of blockades, none of the major super markets ran out of fuel for thier lorries, it was the fact that certain small suppliers did and that at the time a number of the main depots were biult next to refinaries (well ASDA's Grangemouth RDC anyway) that cuased what few tiny shortages there were...

I was wondering why the petrol station along the road was busy last night...

The thing is its the panic buying that is causing shortages, the blockades are a fairly low likelyhood event.
My point exactly.

As for fuel for food deliveries, it shouldn't be problem IIRC any owner of a largish fleet is required to hold at least 3 days worth of reserve fuel stocks.
During the last set of blockades, none of the major super markets ran out of fuel for thier lorries, it was the fact that certain small suppliers did and that at the time a number of the main depots were biult next to refinaries (well ASDA's Grangemouth RDC anyway) that cuased what few tiny shortages there were...
If only the public at large we so rational and willing to believe this really is the case. I worked for a large retail company at the time of the last shortages, we weren't a fuel priority (rightfully) so we ran dry. Most of the workers firmly believed that if *we* ran dry, the food/water deliveries would too, despite reasoning and clear evidence to the contrary. Fear is it's own master.

Go Fuel Protests! :D

I think Corby ran out of diesel yesterday. Shortages will make my trip in to work quieter and more pleasant (it's only two miles; I almost always walk), and I'm driving down to London on Saturday, empty roads would make that much more pleasant.

As for food... There are 55,000 odd people in Corby, it's nice weather, we have a barbecue... No shortage of food here!

I was wondering why the petrol station along the road was busy last night...

The thing is its the panic buying that is causing shortages, the blockades are a fairly low likelyhood event.

As for fuel for food deliveries, it shouldn't be problem IIRC any owner of a largish fleet is required to hold at least 3 days worth of reserve fuel stocks.
During the last set of blockades, none of the major super markets ran out of fuel for thier lorries, it was the fact that certain small suppliers did and that at the time a number of the main depots were biult next to refinaries (well ASDA's Grangemouth RDC anyway) that cuased what few tiny shortages there were...

Higher fuel prices would also lead to higher food prices as you still have cart the stuff around to the stores. This well tends to make shoppers buy in bigger bulk and hence huge rushes on the shops as they don't want be driving too much. Vicious circle.

Which is why i bought pretty much all my food as tins before i went back to uni :D Plus i don't drive at uni so another lot saved...

It'll be like last time, but people will try to be 'prepared' hence the food rushes etc.

Just have to ride it out and see what happens.

UK Petrol Panic (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16123749&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=pumps-run-dry-as-drivers-panic-over-petrol-stocks-name_page.html) :headbang:
Damn it, you couldn't hold on to your panic for a couple of days could you? When does the bread, milk and tinned food riot start?

Most of the stations in my area have run dry, how is the rest of the country fairing?
prices down here in the south are coming back down again - it was down to 96p a litre yesterday (having been up to about 101/102 last week)... tho this is probably because we have a big ol' crude oil refinery about 30 miles down the coast from us... :cool:

They started panic buying here yesterday lunchtime. I think the way in which fuel generally is produced, regulated and controled needs some real changes, but, by creating a panic aren't we just lining their pockets, pushing demand, and prices, ever higher?

Yep. Wonderful, innit?

We're still fine here, and there is no shortage of petrol either...just the chinese whispers of possible protests and the oil companies raking in the cash...

Meh. I'm not going to panic buy. That way, when I run out and can't get any more I can have some time off work :D

But prices are ludicrous. There's a garage on my way to work that just went up 1p per litre every day last week - 89.9 on Monday morning, 95.9 by Friday evening.

The thing is, over the course of a month I buy what? 150 - 200 litres of fuel. So even a 10p in a month rise only costs me an extra £15 or £20 a month. Yes it sucks but it's not exactly the end of the world is it? Council tax rises are worse.

The thing is, over the course of a month I buy what? 150 - 200 litres of fuel. So even a 10p in a month rise only costs me an extra £15 or £20 a month. Yes it sucks but it's not exactly the end of the world is it? Council tax rises are worse.

That's not the point. The point is that companies which depend entirely on fuel (delivery companies and the like, for instance, airlines and even farmers), especially small ones, are having more and more trouble making a profit due to the increasing prices of fuel. It's them who are suffering the most, and in turn, anybody who uses their services also suffers.

My car broke down Saturday night and I wasn't able to figure out how to fix it this weekend, so I'm using public transportation. Oil shortages aren't going to affect me much this week. I plan to buy a new car next weekend, and you can bet it'll be more fuel efficient than the V8 Grand Marquis I was driving before.

My car broke down Saturday night and I wasn't able to figure out how to fix it this weekend, so I'm using public transportation. Oil shortages aren't going to affect me much this week. I plan to buy a new car next weekend, and you can bet it'll be more fuel efficient than the V8 Grand Marquis I was driving before.
*erm* Trains and busses use diesel, and there were more than a few services cancelled last time. Hope you have electric trams and light rail mate.

That's not the point. The point is that companies which depend entirely on fuel (delivery companies and the like, for instance, airlines and even farmers), especially small ones, are having more and more trouble making a profit due to the increasing prices of fuel. It's them who are suffering the most, and in turn, anybody who uses their services also suffers.

You're right of course, but that's not what the public are thinking. It's the psychological effect of going to £1 per litre. It's all 'OMG! Can you believe how much we're having to pay?! ', then the knock on effect of threats to blockade refineries (sorry, not 'blockade', it's 'visit'), word-of-mouth rumours that garages are going to run out, then panic buying.

You're right of course, but that's not what the public are thinking. It's the psychological effect of going to £1 per litre. It's all 'OMG! Can you believe how much we're having to pay?! ', then the knock on effect of threats to blockade refineries (sorry, not 'blockade', it's 'visit'), word-of-mouth rumours that garages are going to run out, then panic buying.

Well the same thing has happened for years. I remember there being uproar about 80p, and I think I remember uproar about 70p as well. The Americans are complaining about it being roughly 40p at the moment. It's all what you're used to -- people budget for a certain number of bills, and when one of those bills rises, it is noticeable. For instance, last time I refilled I had to pay about £34. This time i had to pay £40. While an extra few pence per litre doesn't sound like a lot, it really does add up. The fact that most of it is taxes designed to stop us from driving by draining all our money just makes people even angrier.