I've realized something...
It doesn't really matter. If you think about it, the rules I've seen argued the most are the ones put in place to keep you safe. So why do people argue with them?
Example. My Freshman dorm has a curfew. It's a private school so they can do whatever they want really. But, a lot of people complain about the curfew, when it really is there to keep us safe.
So, is it really that big of a deal? Why is it so hard to just accept a rule instead of having to fight everything. I'm not what you would consider a rule breaker, I've never been out of the dorm past curfew, and I'm perfectly happy. Even on a larger scale, the law. Why is it so hard to just abide by the law. If you do nobody will bother you. What's the deal?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
12-09-2005, 23:35
Becuase we must rebel, damn it! We have to be individuals (just like everbody else), or else the cool kids won't let us sit at their lunch table.
Now, if only I could find this "Machine" that everyone is raging against. Maybe they're refering to the Coke machine that never gives you back the proper amount of change. Yeah, that sounds like a good target.
Vegas-Rex
12-09-2005, 23:41
1. Fiddle is right. People crave rebellion, its an artifact from when we had to steal our women from the silverbacks.
2. Just because a law was created to keep you safe, doesn't mean its good at it. Bad laws/rules exist, and should be fought so they can be changed.
Mitigation
12-09-2005, 23:43
I think this is a simple issue. If no one debates some laws being unnecessary, then what we end up with ARE unnecessary laws being instituted. And who wants a useless rule telling them they can't do something?
One way or another, there is ALWAYS going to be someone out there that can find a reason for any law you can name to be revoked. Its human nature, and something we have to live with. And although it may bother you to hear people voicing their opinions on these things. Debate over these subjects is in the end, for the betterment of our society. Whats the alternative? We all live our lives silently and do whatever we're told?
::edit:: damnit I can never type my thoughts out fast enough to be the first reply lol
The Peanut Gang
12-09-2005, 23:50
Some rules were ment to be broken. If we did everything we were told then life would be really boring. Im not saying that im a complete and total rebellion, im saying that i like to live on the wild side. Boring just does not suit me.
If people want to break rules/laws that's fine as long as you are willing to accept the consequences if you are caught.
If people want to break rules/laws that's fine as long as you are willing to accept the consequences if you are caught.
And then a drunken bastard just ran his car into your Mom/Dad/Brother/Sister/Daughter/Son whatever. hahaha I love it when that happens.
I have no problem with fighting a bad law, I have a problem with people who complain about laws that really aren't so bad. People are just wierd.
What a concluding point.
And then a drunken bastard just ran his car into your Mom/Dad/Brother/Sister/Daughter/Son whatever. hahaha I love it when that happens.
I have no problem with fighting a bad law, I have a problem with people who complain about laws that really aren't so bad. People are just wierd.
What a concluding point.
I wasn't real clear and this annoys me. I don't like it when people break the law, it pisses me off for laws are there for a reason. Those who want to be rebellious should know that if caught you shouldn't whine about a law being wrong. Whether it breaks your own moral code doesn't matter. It is still illegal. This country doesn't have any oppressive laws at its core, (ignoring idiot things like the Patriot Act but that is for a different discussion) so there is nothing to complain about.
I wasn't real clear and this annoys me. I don't like it when people break the law, it pisses me off for laws are there for a reason. Those who want to be rebellious should know that if caught you shouldn't whine about a law being wrong. Whether it breaks your own moral code doesn't matter. It is still illegal. This country doesn't have any oppressive laws at its core, (ignoring idiot things like the Patriot Act but that is for a different discussion) so there is nothing to complain about.
Yes, well that makes it a bit more clear, but I still have problems with people who drive drunk. I'm going to do some homework.
Sometimes people don't need or want to be kept safe. Rules are normally put in place to curb the scum of society from fucking shit up, for themselves or others. It's when rules are made simply for the sake of having rules, that's when things need to change. If you think a rule is unnecessary, work to get rid of it. If you want to risk breaking rules, go ahead - sometimes the reward is worth it. Just don't complain when the hammer falls.
Remember, always question authority. Only occasionally disregard it. ;)
[NS]Simonist
13-09-2005, 01:35
It's when rules are made simply for the sake of having rules, that's when things need to change.
You mean, like if a school were to put into place a rule that not only are the students to traverse the halls as if they're drivers down a street, but they also paint the hallways according to the plausible "people/car" scenario, complete with yield signs and left turn lanes?
A middle school, no less, where none of these kids are even studying how to drive yet.
This, my friends, is a gross misuse of power.
Mitigation
13-09-2005, 01:37
Simonist']You mean, like if a school were to put into place a rule that not only are the students to traverse the halls as if they're drivers down a street, but they also paint the hallways according to the plausible "people/car" scenario, complete with yield signs and left turn lanes?
A middle school, no less, where none of these kids are even studying how to drive yet.
This, my friends, is a gross misuse of power.
............please tell me you made that up.....
Zatarack
13-09-2005, 01:38
His ideas are perfect! Spread it to the...uh...citizenry...Remember, there is no new World Order.
[NS]Simonist
13-09-2005, 01:41
............please tell me you made that up.....
Sorry, but no. My old middle school did it about three years back. I found out this year when I started helping the cheerleaders after school. Sick, isn't it?
1337 h4x0r5
13-09-2005, 01:43
2% club
(the percent of population in prison)
Simonist']*snip*
A fine example. Power can cause those who possess it to do strange and ridiculous things.
Hiberniae
13-09-2005, 01:52
It doesn't really matter. If you think about it, the rules I've seen argued the most are the ones put in place to keep you safe. So why do people argue with them?
Example. My Freshman dorm has a curfew. It's a private school so they can do whatever they want really. But, a lot of people complain about the curfew, when it really is there to keep us safe.
So, is it really that big of a deal? Why is it so hard to just accept a rule instead of having to fight everything. I'm not what you would consider a rule breaker, I've never been out of the dorm past curfew, and I'm perfectly happy. Even on a larger scale, the law. Why is it so hard to just abide by the law. If you do nobody will bother you. What's the deal?
What time is the curfew? And if your a freshman in college a curfew seems a bit degrading. Your suppose to get a new access to old freedoms to help integrate you into the world. There isn't suppose to be that parental figure to sit there holding your hand and telling you how to manage your time.
MaedinSai
13-09-2005, 13:57
It doesn't really matter. If you think about it, the rules I've seen argued the most are the ones put in place to keep you safe. So why do people argue with them?
That slope, my friend, is more slippery than a stoat in vaseline.