NationStates Jolt Archive


Katrina was ... manufactured?

Santa Barbara
12-09-2005, 18:38
You know you hang out with crazy people when you find yourself having to argue against the notion that the government created a hurricane.

People cite for example, the Environmental Modification Convention (http://www.state.gov/t/ac/trt/4783.htm) as proof that the UN nations have figured out ways to modify the weather to the point of creating hurricanes.

They also cite Nikola Tesla's weather experiments (Nikola Tesla seems to feature in just about any conspiracy theory it seems) and try to say that global warming is also manufactured.... by "Scientists."

:headbang:
The Czardaian envoy
12-09-2005, 18:40
Then in come the left-wing conspiracy theorists who claim the government did that because New Orleans area is mostly made up of poor black people who would vote Democratic anyway, and that if they destroyed their city then went in to help them they'd switch their vote. :rolleyes:
Little India
12-09-2005, 18:46
I would imagine it would be impossible to artificially manufacture a full scale natural phenomenon as destructive as Katrina was.

Besides, why would they create a hurricane to decimate the Deep South, and more importantly, how would they monitor and control it?
Ankhmet
12-09-2005, 18:48
I would imagine it would be impossible to artificially manufacture a full scale natural phenomenon as destructive as Katrina was.

Besides, why would they create a hurricane to decimate the Deep South, and more importantly, how would they monitor and control it?

Push it with juggernauts. Duh.
Liskeinland
12-09-2005, 18:51
Then in come the left-wing conspiracy theorists who claim the government did that because New Orleans area is mostly made up of poor black people who would vote Democratic anyway, and that if they destroyed their city then went in to help them they'd switch their vote. :rolleyes: Ooh… convincing…
Santa Barbara
12-09-2005, 18:51
I would imagine it would be impossible to artificially manufacture a full scale natural phenomenon as destructive as Katrina was.

Besides, why would they create a hurricane to decimate the Deep South, and more importantly, how would they monitor and control it?

Extremely Low Frequency sound waves, of course! ;)

As to WHY.... well there is no shortage of motivations. Everything from the New World Order, to the anti-Democrat/racist movitation listed above, to wanting to push America into a Civil War (since it is so "obvious" that the government caused it that the people are going to take up arms soon)...
The Czardaian envoy
12-09-2005, 18:58
Ooh… convincing…
Hey, every megalomaniac out there wants to destroy the world so he/she/it/they can rebuild it and thus become the ruler. It's the subject of 40950239503840045504000 fantasy/sci-fi novels at least. (I know I'm forgetting one, but I can't remember which....)
Allemonde
12-09-2005, 19:00
You know you hang out with crazy people when you find yourself having to argue against the notion that the government created a hurricane.

People cite for example, the Environmental Modification Convention (http://www.state.gov/t/ac/trt/4783.htm) as proof that the UN nations have figured out ways to modify the weather to the point of creating hurricanes.

They also cite Nikola Tesla's weather experiments (Nikola Tesla seems to feature in just about any conspiracy theory it seems) and try to say that global warming is also manufactured.... by "Scientists."

:headbang:

:p :p Ok man you need stop reading Micheal Chrichton. There is no way anyone could make a hurricane. Katrina was caused by the warm waters in the Gulf of Mexico which fueled the hurricane. Before it got to the the gulf it was only a catagory 1 hurricane.
Hemingsoft
12-09-2005, 19:01
Ok, the coverup is over. GWB and the GOP brainwashed me into cooking up a storm in the Atlantic and steering it into NO with my Atari controller. Sorry guys.
Balipo
12-09-2005, 19:01
Then in come the left-wing conspiracy theorists who claim the government did that because New Orleans area is mostly made up of poor black people who would vote Democratic anyway, and that if they destroyed their city then went in to help them they'd switch their vote. :rolleyes:

Remember though, all those conspiracy theorists who warned you should be careful what you say on your cell phones as all those conversations are monitored and recorded?

They were right as immediately after 9/11 the FBI and CIA started going through cell phone recordings they had to find terrorist communication. Anything said on landline or cell phone is listened too. Maybe not actively but, if eyebrows get raised...
Kecibukia
12-09-2005, 19:01
Extremely Low Frequency sound waves, of course! ;)

As to WHY.... well there is no shortage of motivations. Everything from the New World Order, to the anti-Democrat/racist movitation listed above, to wanting to push America into a Civil War (since it is so "obvious" that the government caused it that the people are going to take up arms soon)...

But since it's the Democrats that are generally trying to disarm people, maybe THEY caused it to put the blame on Republicans and make gun owners look bad and be forcibly disarmed. After all demographically, poor blacks rarely vote and are therefore expendable to politicians.

*puts on tinfoil hat*
The Czardaian envoy
12-09-2005, 19:03
Ok, the coverup is over. GWB and the GOP brainwashed me into cooking up a storm in the Atlantic and steering it into NO with my Atari controller. Sorry guys.
...And that was officially reported as a computer error! :eek:
Allemonde
12-09-2005, 19:04
Extremely Low Frequency sound waves, of course! ;)

As to WHY.... well there is no shortage of motivations. Everything from the New World Order, to the anti-Democrat/racist movitation listed above, to wanting to push America into a Civil War (since it is so "obvious" that the government caused it that the people are going to take up arms soon)...

:rolleyes: I think we need to call the guys with the paddywagons and the straight-jackets!!! Oblivsy has read way too much Micheal Crichton. Yeah I'll believe that katrina was a vast left-wing/environmentalist conspirciy!! :rolleyes:
Copiosa Scotia
12-09-2005, 19:06
It was the UN. They want to send troops to take over the United States under the guise of a humanitarian mission.
Santa Barbara
12-09-2005, 19:07
But since it's the Democrats that are generally trying to disarm people, maybe THEY caused it to put the blame on Republicans and make gun owners look bad and be forcibly disarmed. After all demographically, poor blacks rarely vote and are therefore expendable to politicians.

*puts on tinfoil hat*

I like the way you think.

you know, maybe I was wrong, maybe Katrina was manufactured... the motive is there, and NikolaTesladidsomethingsotheremustbeabilitytoooooo!
Ashmoria
12-09-2005, 19:09
good lord if the UN decided to make a category 5 hurricane to destroy the US gulf coast i would have suggested that new orleans prepare for a drought!
Random Weirdness
12-09-2005, 19:10
I would imagine it would be impossible to artificially manufacture a full scale natural phenomenon as destructive as Katrina was.

Besides, why would they create a hurricane to decimate the Deep South, and more importantly, how would they monitor and control it?

I've seen the hurricane factory myself! It's all true! The factory is small and you'd never notice it from the highway. They have a whole bunch of jet engines lined up vertically inside a round room.

Once they turn on the engines, the air starts swirling. Then when it's a baby hurricane the floor opens and it drops into a huge jar. (They also make tornadoes there too, they're smaller and easier to make than hurricanes).

So when they need a hurricane they load on of these jars onto an army cargo plane, and fly it to the spot on the ocean where they want the hurricane to start, with favorable wind conditions in place. Then they dump the jar out of the plane and a few small well-placed explosive charges shatter the jar. BINGO instant hurricane!

You have to beleive me, I've seen it! Now I have to go hide under my bed so the gov't won't find me, and lock me up for letting out their little secret...

:eek:
Harlesburg
12-09-2005, 19:12
Actually New Zealand has been Munipulating the Weather since WWII we had Tsunami Bombs and if it hadnt have been for the Fatboy we would have sunk Japan. ;)
The Czardaian envoy
12-09-2005, 19:12
Actually, that's not what happens at all.

What happens is that I make a swirling motion with my finger over the spot on the Multiverse Map where I want the hurricane to start, and drag my finger over the area it will cross.

That is all.

It's cool to be the ruler of all of Khoen Vanaar.
Conch Nation
12-09-2005, 19:17
:eek: And what about John Bolton's mustache? How on Earth do you explain that?
The Czardaian envoy
12-09-2005, 19:21
:eek: And what about John Bolton's mustache? How on Earth do you explain that?
Oh, that? It's the one faulty part of his disguise that enabled me to see him for what he really is: an alien from Xyclrubltitlddueyy who has come to Earth disguised as a human in order to T@k3 0V3r T3|-| w0Rl|>!!!!!!!! :mp5: :sniper:

( ;) )
CricketEaters
12-09-2005, 19:24
Of course the government manufactured the hurricane.

Their refusal to believe that gloabl warming exists and thus their total lack of action when it comes to making America a greener country has led to more global warming (though, arguably, not the loss in profit that most of the rest of the world has suffered as they, with the exception of Arrogant America, have fought to try to decrease global warming). Hurrican Katrina was partially attributed to far higher sea levels, which led to the Hurricanes creation. The higher sea levels came form the melting ice caps at the North and South poles. Why are they melting? Global Warming. Who is refusing to believe even in the existance of gloabl warming? America. Who did the Hurricane strike? the Americans.

It's not along the lines you were thinking of, perhaps, but it proves the point that they manufactured the hurricane.
Dishonorable Scum
12-09-2005, 19:25
Remember though, all those conspiracy theorists who warned you should be careful what you say on your cell phones as all those conversations are monitored and recorded?

They were right as immediately after 9/11 the FBI and CIA started going through cell phone recordings they had to find terrorist communication. Anything said on landline or cell phone is listened too. Maybe not actively but, if eyebrows get raised...

The difference being, of course, that is at least theoretically possible to monitor all phone conversations. It is completely impossible to manufacture a hurricane. :p

And I don't want to hijack this thread, but as for monitoring all phone conversations - In order for that to work, there would need to be some kind of connection between every telephone phone switch in America and the hypothetical location where the CIA processes all of the data. Which means, practically, that for every long-distance trunk line, there would need to be a second trunk line of equal capacity leading to the processing site. You'd effectively need to double the amount of telephone infrastructure for this to happen.

It happens that I used to work for a long-distance phone company, in the very department that controlled the company's long-distance trunk lines. So I'm in a position to know for a fact that such duplicate lines do not exist. And please don't claim the CIA could hide them from me. There's no way to hide that amount of equipment from the people who would have to have access to it in order to make it work in the first place. And there's no other practical way to get the data to the imaginary processing facility. And then there's the amount of computing power it would take to process all of that data... So while it's theoretically possible, in practice it's just not happening.

Isn't it funny how conspiracy theories always sound great until you run into someone with enough knowlege to blow them out of the water?

:p
Santa Barbara
12-09-2005, 19:28
Of course the government manufactured the hurricane.

Their refusal to believe that gloabl warming exists and thus their total lack of action when it comes to making America a greener country has led to more global warming (though, arguably, not the loss in profit that most of the rest of the world has suffered as they, with the exception of Arrogant America, have fought to try to decrease global warming). Hurrican Katrina was partially attributed to far higher sea levels, which led to the Hurricanes creation. The higher sea levels came form the melting ice caps at the North and South poles. Why are they melting? Global Warming. Who is refusing to believe even in the existance of gloabl warming? America. Who did the Hurricane strike? the Americans.

It's not along the lines you were thinking of, perhaps, but it proves the point that they manufactured the hurricane.

Yeah, but thats very very indirect, I wouldn't consider "ignoring global warming" to be "manufacturing a hurricane." I mean, if I feed you some barbecue beans, am I actually manufacturing farts? No, your gastrointestinal system is.
Kamadhatu
12-09-2005, 19:29
They also cite Nikola Tesla's weather experiments (Nikola Tesla seems to feature in just about any conspiracy theory it seems) and try to say that global warming is also manufactured.... by "Scientists."

:headbang:

Ya gotta watch those "scientists". Next, they'll be trying to tell us the earth is round and that we revolve around the sun.
Druids and Wizards
12-09-2005, 19:31
http://www.earthpulse.com (http://www.earthpulse.com/src/subcategory.asp?catid=1&subcatid=2)
JMayo
12-09-2005, 19:33
Truth is I made the storm. And if you send what ever cash you have left after you have donated to hurricane relief. I will tell you how.

Regards,

JMayo
The Czardaian envoy
12-09-2005, 19:35
Truth is I made the storm. And if you send what ever cash you have left after you have donated to hurricane relief. I will tell you how.

Regards,

JMayo

Actually, I made the storm.

It's because my purpose is to destroy creation from the inside. When it has fallen I can rebuild it, and RULE it.

Mwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
Copiosa Scotia
12-09-2005, 19:36
good lord if the UN decided to make a category 5 hurricane to destroy the US gulf coast i would have suggested that new orleans prepare for a drought!

Hmm... good point. Guess this conspiracy theory stuff is harder than it looks.
Santa Barbara
12-09-2005, 19:40
http://www.earthpulse.com (http://www.earthpulse.com/src/subcategory.asp?catid=1&subcatid=2)

Sigh. Yes, and - does it - why, yes it DOES! It mentions Nikola Tesla, now featuring in 99% of all science-oriented conspiracy theories.

That site says However, the possible uses which the HAARP records do not explain, and which can only be found in Air Force, Army, Navy and other federal agency records, are alarming.

And then it doesn't site these 'records.' Just implies that they exist, and leaves ito schizophrenic symptoms to come up with the rest.
The Czardaian envoy
12-09-2005, 19:41
Hmm... good point. Guess this conspiracy theory stuff is harder than it looks.
Never mind! We shall find a better theory some day! Ahahahahaha!
Druidville
12-09-2005, 19:53
Who is refusing to believe even in the existance of gloabl warming? America. Who did the Hurricane strike? the Americans.

I hope that's not your idea of logic. I could give the short course on where and how they form, and the reasons why "global warming" isn't quite the guilty party we should all think of.

But I'll leave that to you. :)