NationStates Jolt Archive


Al Qaeda video serves new warning to the U.S.

CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 05:30
This news report (http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1126462783388_158?hub=topstories) has been on my server for several hours and I am surprised that no one has picked up on it:

On the fourth anniversary of the September 11 terror attacks, al Qaeda reminded the United States it still has the country in its sights.

ABC News acquired a new videotape featuring the self-proclaimed "American al Qaeda." Officials say his name is Adam Gadahn, an operative believed to be living in Pakistan.

On the tape, apparently reading from a script, he delivers a very pointed threat against Los Angeles and Melbourne, Australia.

"Yesterday, London and Madrid, tomorrow Los Angeles and Melbourne, Allah willing," he says. "And this time, don't count on us demonstrating restraint or compassion."

If nothing else, this tape should give Bush a boost in the polls?
Deeeelo
12-09-2005, 05:34
This is news? Al Qaeda wants to kill Americans? Really?
Colodia
12-09-2005, 05:34
Well this time the threat is as close to home as it'll ever get. The man is from Orange County isn't he? That's....a few hundred feet behind my house.

And yet...I'm not worried.
The Soviet Americas
12-09-2005, 05:37
Al-Qaeda and other religious idiots make me yawn. *Yawn*
Non Aligned States
12-09-2005, 05:40
Does it say "Made in America" in the credits? The timing of these things are getting a little too coincidental to be above suspect.
Colodia
12-09-2005, 05:43
Does it say "Made in America" in the credits? The timing of these things are getting a little too coincidental to be above suspect.
Good point. Bush's popularity isn't exactly looking well for him, and he could very well jump on this threat and spin it to his own needs.

Great, toy with the minds of the good Kerry-voting people here of California for his own needs.
Santa Barbara
12-09-2005, 05:47
So should I be quaking in my boots? I have a greater risk of dying to a thousand other causes. By incouraging this fearmongering you might be technically engaging in the spread of terror more than any wacko's threat is. And if its a real threat, there are agencies that get to investigate it; we are not part of these agencies so it does us little good to get our pants in a knot over it.
CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 05:55
So should I be quaking in my boots? I have a greater risk of dying to a thousand other causes. By incouraging this fearmongering you might be technically engaging in the spread of terror more than any wacko's threat is. And if its a real threat, there are agencies that get to investigate it; we are not part of these agencies so it does us little good to get our pants in a knot over it.
I think you raised some good points. However, does one take these lightly, as Bush has been accused of regarding incidents before 9/11, or are we just pawns spreading the threat of terror?

Ironically though, I think that Bin Laden's tape just prior to the election in 2004, helped Bush immensely at the polls. Before that tape, most of the polls were showing a Kerry lead.
The Black Forrest
12-09-2005, 06:00
Meh. So an Islamic fanatic wants to kill Americans. Is this supposed to be new?

*Shock* I guess Bin Laden lied when he said the blue states were not his enemies.

Oh well. SOSDD

Never mind the fact Al-Q works to their schedules rather then shoot for symbolic dates.
The Black Forrest
12-09-2005, 06:01
Ironically though, I think that Bin Laden's tape just prior to the election in 2004, helped Bush immensely at the polls. Before that tape, most of the polls were showing a Kerry lead.

Could be. But I think gay marriage won more for him then that.....
Copiosa Scotia
12-09-2005, 06:07
Melbourne? Seriously, why?
Santa Barbara
12-09-2005, 06:07
I think you raised some good points. However, does one take these lightly, as Bush has been accused of regarding incidents before 9/11, or are we just pawns spreading the threat of terror?

Ironically though, I think that Bin Laden's tape just prior to the election in 2004, helped Bush immensely at the polls. Before that tape, most of the polls were showing a Kerry lead.

Meh, thats not irony, thats politics. It's much like how 9/11 increased popularity for Bush. Just give them a bit of fear, the masses will come crawling to their rulers. What was that Goebbels quote again? seems appropriate suddenly...
Non Aligned States
12-09-2005, 06:12
Meh, thats not irony, thats politics. It's much like how 9/11 increased popularity for Bush. Just give them a bit of fear, the masses will come crawling to their rulers. What was that Goebbels quote again? seems appropriate suddenly...

I think it was something like this.

"Of course the people do not want war. Nobody in his sane mind wants war. But the needs of the state do not have to pander to the will of the people. All you need to do is proclaim an enemy to stir up strong nationalistic sentiment. Anyone who opposes you can be ridiculed as unpatriotic and traitorous."

It's probably off, but that was the gist of it.
CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 06:15
Meh, thats not irony, thats politics. It's much like how 9/11 increased popularity for Bush. Just give them a bit of fear, the masses will come crawling to their rulers. What was that Goebbels quote again? seems appropriate suddenly...
Yes I tend to agree. The quote you were looking for?

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Maybe that is the wrong one?
CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 06:17
Could be. But I think gay marriage won more for him then that.....
Ummm yeah, that too.
Treue
12-09-2005, 06:40
i agree with you guys, all this administration is doing is trying to make everyone afraid to leave their houses so they will give a blank check to the government to do whatever they want "for the betterment of the people". it is my feeling that the normal voting population is stupid, they dont research what they vote for if they vote at all and even if they do they dont understand it half the time.

about this al qeada thing, i dont live to far away from LA, and im not worried, i think that they are just letting us know they are still there and having a little fun making every security agency in the country scramble to find out if its true or not. if they attack, they attack, my shitting my pants over it isnt going to change anything, so why should i spend my days wondering whats going to happen like everyone else in this brain-washed country?
Waterkeep
12-09-2005, 06:58
Occam's razor cuts the theory that this is a conspiracy of the White House.

There's a much simpler explanation:
It's a conspiracy of the terrorists.

Will this give Bush a boost in the polls? Damn straight. But don't think that the White House is pulling the strings here, this is the terrorists pulling the strings. They can see as well as we can that Bush's poll numbers are slipping. They can also see, probably better than we, what the man and his "War on Terra" has done for their recruitment levels. They can see democratic nations happily tossing away their own rights and people in the nation getting madder at the government. They can see that the actions of this govenrment have so incensed some of the population that they're getting people in London and Madrid willing to attack their own nations.

You think they want any of this to stop? They want Bush in more than anybody. Expect something *major* right before the 2008 election, probably disrupting it and requiring Bush stay in office for at least a short time extra. Expect to see the conspiracy theories fly and people getting up in arms about it, possibly literally. And that's what they want more than anything.
Mount Eliza
12-09-2005, 07:10
Melbourne? Seriously, why?

Cause our governement has our head stuck farthest up the neather regions of the Bush Government, and an incapable opposition party.
Deeeelo
12-09-2005, 07:20
So ,according to many of you, Bush is now some sort of Al Qaeda press agent? Hey, we get it, you don't like him. Bush reportedly sleeps late and certainly takes alot of time off. He isn't busy enough for absolutely everything to be his fault!
Chellis
12-09-2005, 07:41
So ,according to many of you, Bush is now some sort of Al Qaeda press agent? Hey, we get it, you don't like him. Bush reportedly sleeps late and certainly takes alot of time off. He isn't busy enough for absolutely everything to be his fault!

Considering some of the things said about clinton, we might be going easy on him.
Airlandia
12-09-2005, 07:49
Considering some of the things said about clinton, we might be going easy on him.

An important difference being that some of the things said about Clinton were actually *true*. :p

Oh wait! To liberals that wouldn't matter, would it? Never mind. ;)
Deeeelo
12-09-2005, 07:51
Considering some of the things said about clinton, we might be going easy on him.
Such as?
Chellis
12-09-2005, 07:53
Such as?

Accusations of being a traitor, selling military secrets to the chinese?
Deeeelo
12-09-2005, 07:56
Accusations of being a traitor, selling military secrets to the chinese?
How are those two things worse than being blamed for everything that is done by anyone, anywhere?
Selgin
12-09-2005, 07:56
You think they want any of this to stop? They want Bush in more than anybody. Expect something *major* right before the 2008 election, probably disrupting it and requiring Bush stay in office for at least a short time extra. Expect to see the conspiracy theories fly and people getting up in arms about it, possibly literally. And that's what they want more than anything.
Actually, I heard some of this same nonsense at the end of Clinton's 2nd term - that he would engineer some sort of urban rioting requiring him to declare martial law and stay in office longer.

It was poppycock then, and it's poppycock now.
BackwoodsSquatches
12-09-2005, 07:58
You think they want any of this to stop? They want Bush in more than anybody. Expect something *major* right before the 2008 election, probably disrupting it and requiring Bush stay in office for at least a short time extra. Expect to see the conspiracy theories fly and people getting up in arms about it, possibly literally. And that's what they want more than anything.

Bush makes the pretense of bringing democracy to Iraq, right?
Well, what action could be more against the very concept of that democracy, than delaying the national elections, and extending his term?

I mean that would be directly out of Emporer Palpatine's playbook, wouldnt it?

How on earth would that just be overlooked?

I suppose, however, that Bush's motto should be "Thanks for not Paying Attention, America."
But still, it certainly wouldnt do his party any better in that forthcoming election.
BackwoodsSquatches
12-09-2005, 07:59
How are those two things worse than being blamed for everything that is done by anyone, anywhere?


If even ONE of the accusations thrown at Bush are true, given that the numbers are legion, that still makes Bush a liar, and a bastard. (figuratively)
Chellis
12-09-2005, 08:03
How are those two things worse than being blamed for everything that is done by anyone, anywhere?

I dont see any serious accusations like that.
Chellis
12-09-2005, 08:05
Bush makes the pretense of bringing democracy to Iraq, right?
Well, what action could be more against the very concept of that democracy, than delaying the national elections, and extending his term?

I mean that would be directly out of Emporer Palpatine's playbook, wouldnt it?

How on earth would that just be overlooked?

I suppose, however, that Bush's motto should be "Thanks for not Paying Attention, America."
But still, it certainly wouldnt do his party any better in that forthcoming election.

If the elections were heavily influenced by a terrorist attack, I wouldnt be surprised if the supreme court agreed to another election, or something of sorts.
Deeeelo
12-09-2005, 08:07
If even ONE of the accusations thrown at Bush are true, given that the numbers are legion, that still makes Bush a liar, and a bastard. (figuratively)
My point is this, Bush can't possibly be behind everything that everyone does. It doesn't seem to matter what happens, someone or nearly eeryone blames Bush. I'm not particularly fond of Bush but I realise that it is impossible for him to be the cause of everything bad that happens, everywhere.
Orteil Mauvais
12-09-2005, 08:08
If the elections were heavily influenced by a terrorist attack, I wouldnt be surprised if the supreme court agreed to another election, or something of sorts.

(Just to add to the conspiracy) But with the power of Pat Robertson's prayers that kill justices, then the supreme court can be ENTIRELY conservative christian, and they can support bush. YAAAY three times majority!
Airlandia
12-09-2005, 08:08
Bush makes the pretense of bringing democracy to Iraq, right?
Well, what action could be more against the very concept of that democracy, than delaying the national elections, and extending his term?

Any evidence of this actually happening beyond your imagination? o_O

I mean that would be directly out of Emporer Palpatine's playbook, wouldnt it?

And the reason "Emporer Palpatine" is relevant to a non-Star Wars thread would be? :confused:

How on earth would that just be overlooked?

I dunno, you tell me! :p

I suppose, however, that Bush's motto should be "Thanks for not Paying Attention, America."

Nah, that's trademarked to the Left. :)

But still, it certainly wouldnt do his party any better in that forthcoming election.

An astute observation. Perhaps there's hope for you yet. ;)
Deeeelo
12-09-2005, 08:09
It's almost as if Bush is the new Boogey-man. And he's gonna get you!
BackwoodsSquatches
12-09-2005, 08:14
Any evidence of this actually happening beyond your imagination?

Wow.
The question was posed hypothetically.
Way to not have any idea of what the conversation was about.



And the reason "Emporer Palpatine" is relevant to a non-Star Wars thread would be? :confused:

Palpatine extended his term as Supreme Chancellor, due to the ongoing war.



I dunno, you tell me! :p

Umm..maybe someone just wouldnt notice?
Like you, maybe?



Nah, that's trademarked to the Left. :)

Wow.
Good comeback.
No..really.



An astute observation. Perhaps there's hope for you yet.

Gee....I rejoice quietly.
It may be hard to see...but deep down...Im rejoicing.
Waterkeep
12-09-2005, 08:41
Actually, I heard some of this same nonsense at the end of Clinton's 2nd term - that he would engineer some sort of urban rioting requiring him to declare martial law and stay in office longer.

It was poppycock then, and it's poppycock now.
Congratulations on totally missing my point and agreeing with me at the same time. I don't think I've ever seen anybody do that before.

Read it again. Like you, I don't think the administration would engineer anything like that. What I was saying was that the terrorists may well do something like that, for the specific purpose of turning America against itself.
Airlandia
12-09-2005, 08:51
BackwoodsSquatches,

Wow.
The question was posed hypothetically.
Way to not have any idea of what the conversation was about.

Unfortunately, *stupid* hypothetical questions remain *very* stupid. :rolleyes:


Palpatine extended his term as Supreme Chancellor, due to the ongoing war.

Quite right. But I was hoping for signs that you got your ideas of reality from somewhere other than Hollywood. ^_^;


Umm..maybe someone just wouldnt notice?
Like you, maybe?

You mean like the way good little liberals never noticed that the CBS memos were forgeries and still haven't noticed Air Enron's embezzlements? :p Nah, I think that an extension of a Presidential term is big enough that even *you* would notice! :)


Gee....I rejoice quietly.
It may be hard to see...but deep down...Im rejoicing.

Always glad to increase a fellow human being's happiness! ;)

Dweelo,
I've come to the conclusion that Bush Derangement Syndrome is a form of maltheism. Those who bash him secretly regard him as an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent Higher Being who just happens to be malicious. I suspect that their next step will be to build stone alters to him along with the burning of incense. ^_~
BackwoodsSquatches
12-09-2005, 08:59
BackwoodsSquatches,



Unfortunately, *stupid* hypothetical questions remain *very* stupid. :rolleyes:

Ok, look.

Before this goes any farther, lets get one thing straight.

YOU were the one who completely missed the whole point of the conversation.

Someone posed a hypothetical question, and I answered it, and posed a couple of my own.

YOU completely missed the whole point of the thread, and my post, to wich you responded, wich makes you look pretty dumb.





Quite right. But I was hoping for signs that you got your ideas of reality from somewhere other than Hollywood.

Ok, maybe you dont know what a "correlation" is, or youre simply just flaming.
Either way, its annoying.


You mean like the way good little liberals never noticed that the CBS memos were forgeries and still haven't noticed Air Enron's embezzlements? :p Nah, I think that an extension of a Presidential term is big enough that even *you* would notice!

Now, this has progressed to a pointless "teh liberal are teh suxorz" rant on your behalf, and really isnt needed here.
Furthermore, your tone is becoming increasingly antagonistic.


If you arent going to converse like an adult, you really should just leave.
Chellis
12-09-2005, 09:14
Ok, look.

Before this goes any farther, lets get one thing straight.

YOU were the one who completely missed the whole point of the conversation.

Someone posed a hypothetical question, and I answered it, and posed a couple of my own.

YOU completely missed the whole point of the thread, and my post, to wich you responded, wich makes you look pretty dumb.







Ok, maybe you dont know what a "correlation" is, or youre simply just flaming.
Either way, its annoying.




Now, this has progressed to a pointless "teh liberal are teh suxorz" rant on your behalf, and really isnt needed here.
Furthermore, your tone is becoming increasingly antagonistic.


If you arent going to converse like an adult, you really should just leave.

Just put him on your ignore list. Thats what its there for.
Keruvalia
12-09-2005, 09:29
Melbourne? Seriously, why?

The terrorists hate them for their kangaroos.
Airlandia
12-09-2005, 09:32
Ok, look.

Before this goes any farther, lets get one thing straight.

YOU were the one who completely missed the whole point of the conversation.

Someone posed a hypothetical question, and I answered it, and posed a couple of my own.

YOU completely missed the whole point of the thread, and my post, to wich you responded, wich makes you look pretty dumb..

And I'm trying to convey that I consider the "point" of the conversation to be rather silly. There is nothing the terrorists can do to force a delay of the election. Zlich. Nada. Ain't gonna happen. Am I being too subtle about this? Do I need to lay the sarcasm on thicker to make my point? :rolleyes:

Ok, maybe you dont know what a "correlation" is, or youre simply just flaming.
Either way, its annoying.

Ever consider that the "Star Wars" episode you're "correlating" is a work of *fiction*? That your correlations might be more impressive if you made them to something that happened in *history*? Just a thought. :rolleyes:

Now, this has progressed to a pointless "teh liberal are teh suxorz" rant on your behalf, and really isnt needed here.
Furthermore, your tone is becoming increasingly antagonistic.

If you arent going to converse like an adult, you really should just leave.

So you can dish out sarcasm but you can't take it in return? o_O That's too bad. But doubtless very "adult". Don't worry about my being antangonistic. I'm just having fun watching the conspiracy theories unravel. :)
Aldranin
12-09-2005, 11:50
Good point. Bush's popularity isn't exactly looking well for him, and he could very well jump on this threat and spin it to his own needs.

Great, toy with the minds of the good Kerry-voting people here of California for his own needs.

What would that do for him? He doesn't need to be all that popular, he's not running against anyone else.
SimNewtonia
12-09-2005, 11:54
The terrorists hate them for their kangaroos.

lol!

It probably has a touch more to do with the fact that Melbourne's hosting the Commonwealth Games next year, though.
The Similized world
12-09-2005, 13:26
It probably has a touch more to do with the fact that Melbourne's hosting the Commonwealth Games next year, though.
Nah. The loons just recently noticed that the good people down under plays music on the radio. Melbourne was agreed on 'cos they spottet it first on their map ;)

That said, the most plausible conspiracy theory I've seen yet, is AQ's plan to delay the elections. I doubt they're that ambitious though. But there's no arguing that it's in their best interest to see the Bush administration in office. Personally I hardly think they're concerned about the name of the president. As long as the PNAC people are in control, AQ will appear justified to a lot of people. That's most likely all that matters to them.
Corneliu
12-09-2005, 14:04
I think you raised some good points. However, does one take these lightly, as Bush has been accused of regarding incidents before 9/11, or are we just pawns spreading the threat of terror?

Ironically though, I think that Bin Laden's tape just prior to the election in 2004, helped Bush immensely at the polls. Before that tape, most of the polls were showing a Kerry lead.

Actually....most polls showed Bush with a lead of 3 points and he won by 3 points.
Corneliu
12-09-2005, 14:08
My point is this, Bush can't possibly be behind everything that everyone does. It doesn't seem to matter what happens, someone or nearly eeryone blames Bush. I'm not particularly fond of Bush but I realise that it is impossible for him to be the cause of everything bad that happens, everywhere.

Well said Deeeelo!

As to this thread,

CanuckHeaven. This is nothing knew so why are you posting spam? Everyone knows al qaeda has threatened the united states. He's been doing it for over a decade. So what is your point of posting this?
Santa Barbara
12-09-2005, 15:06
Yes I tend to agree. The quote you were looking for?

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Maybe that is the wrong one?

Nah, its like what Non Aligned States wrote just above you. Not the exact quote, but close to it.

That one is good too though. Nazis are great source-quotes for some reason... probably that ingrained German eloquence.
CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 17:16
As to this thread,

CanuckHeaven. This is nothing knew so why are you posting spam? Everyone knows al qaeda has threatened the united states. He's been doing it for over a decade. So what is your point of posting this?
What do you mean that this is nothing new? I have not seen this story before. And what are you the spam police?
Corneliu
12-09-2005, 17:18
What do you mean that this is nothing new? I have not seen this story before. And what are you the spam police?

CH,

Al Qaeda has been threatening us for over a decade. It doesn't matter if they name a city. The fact remains is that they continue to threaten the United States every few weeks.

So What is new about a story that has been occuring for over 10 years?
CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 17:57
CH,

Al Qaeda has been threatening us for over a decade. It doesn't matter if they name a city. The fact remains is that they continue to threaten the United States every few weeks.

So What is new about a story that has been occuring for over 10 years?
Because it doesn't matter to you, I should refrain from starting a thread? Perhaps it matters to the people of LA or Melbourne? Get over yourself and if you don't like the thread, please post elsewhere. and you accuse me of spam.....geeez!! :eek:
Corneliu
12-09-2005, 20:13
Because it doesn't matter to you, I should refrain from starting a thread? Perhaps it matters to the people of LA or Melbourne? Get over yourself and if you don't like the thread, please post elsewhere. and you accuse me of spam.....geeez!! :eek:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Al Qaeda declared war on the United States in the 1990s. Later on, they began to threaten the allies of the United States. Those Allies include:

France
Great Britain
Spain
Portugal
Poland
Italy
Germany
Belgium
Greece
Australia
New Zealand
Japan

And many others!

Give me a break CH! This is nothing new infact, is repeating old news since they constantly threaten some city or other as well as other nations who ally themselves with the US.
CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 20:18
Correct me if I'm wrong, <<<SNIP>>>>.
You are wrong. This is NEW news and it names LA and Melbourne as targets. Like I stated earlier, you are free to post elsewhere. Please stop spamming my thread. :D
CPS Inc
12-09-2005, 20:20
We'll see how many videos they release then....

:sniper:
Teh_pantless_hero
12-09-2005, 20:20
Melbourne? Seriously, why?
The authorities wouldn't show them any kangaroos when they came to visit?
Corneliu
12-09-2005, 20:24
You are wrong. This is NEW news and it names LA and Melbourne as targets. Like I stated earlier, you are free to post elsewhere. Please stop spamming my thread. :D

Nah it is nothing new. They have threatened australians before so it really isn't anything new
Luporum
12-09-2005, 20:35
For some reason I just don't care, this tape is a very disapointing sequel, I think Bin Laden needs to start making prequels to attract some attention.

As he's now finding out Americans have a pretty short attention span even if our lives are at stake.
CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 22:58
Nah it is nothing new. They have threatened australians before so it really isn't anything new
From CBS (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/videos500251.shtml#).
Corneliu
12-09-2005, 23:02
From CBS (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/videos500251.shtml#).

Nevermind CH.

Apparently you don't realize that they have threatened to attack allies of the United States before. Alwell.
CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 23:07
Nevermind CH.

Apparently you don't realize that they have threatened to attack allies of the United States before. Alwell.
And I suppose that you just shrug it off the way Bush did in 2001 when he was told that Bin Laden would use airplanes to attack the US BEFORE it actually did occur?

BTW, the above point also ties into the question as to why Bush would sit in that classroom on Sept. 11, 2001, knowing that the enemy would use planes.
Corneliu
12-09-2005, 23:10
And I suppose that you just shrug it off the way Bush did in 2001 when he was told that Bin Laden would use airplanes to attack the US BEFORE it actually did occur?

BTW, the above point also ties into the question as to why Bush would sit in that classroom on Sept. 11, 2001, knowing that the enemy would use planes.

Your not going to bait me CH. I'm not going to rise to it. 9/11 was 4 years ago so it really is no use debating it anymore.
Sumamba Buwhan
12-09-2005, 23:13
Forget Los Angeles... here's the real deal when it comes to imminent terrorist attacks:


TERROR IN TINY TOWN
Sunday, September 11, 2005
Greg Palast reporting from Southold, New York

In the War on Terror, we are all on the front lines. Now Southold has
apparently been targeted by Al Qaeda. I'm not surprised.

Southold, if you look at a map, is situated at the ass end of nowhere.
We are known for our Strawberry Festival and fire truck parade.
According to the Census, this tiny place is made up almost entirely of inbred
farmers, real estate speculators and volunteer firemen.

At one end of town is the "Brand Names Outlet Mall" and the water-slide
park. At the other end, there's a ferry boat that takes those who feel
lucky to the Indian casino in Connecticut. And in between, there's Main
Street where we hold the Strawberry Festival. (The festival is a quaint
and annoying white-folks' ritual, an opportunity for backstabbing,
petty infighting and all-American small-mindedness. But that's another
story altogether.)

Last month, Town Supervisor Josh, with powers granted him by the
Department of Homeland Security, declared a "national security emergency."
(Supervisor Josh Horton is called by his first name because he was
elected at the precocious age of 26 -- based, it seems, on his stellar
qualifications: he wears shoes.) In light of the clear and present threat of
attack, Supervisor Josh ordered every one taking the ferry boat to the
Indian casino to park in the dirt lot across from the Country Store and
not along Route 25.

It was just after the London bombings and Supervisor Josh insisted this
was truly a matter of preparing for terrorist attack, though some
locals suspected it was less about Al Qaeda and more about zoning.
Supervisor Josh had been trying all year, unsuccessfully, to change the zoning
on the dirt lot next to the ferryboat launch from "farming" to "parking"
to boost the town's take from the inebriated gambling tourists. To
scare off both Al Qaeda and parking violators, Josh has posted, care of the
federal treasury, an SUV at the ferry dock armed with two .50-caliber
machine guns. I kid you not.

The ferry to the Indian casino is our officially designated town
"terrorism vulnerability point" (TVP). If you don't pick a "terrorism
vulnerability point," the town can't get its slice of Homeland Security loot
from the federal government.

All ferry passengers are now asked for their home phone numbers, though
if they are suicide bombers, they will not, after they strike, be able
to answer the phone. No matter.

Homeland Security assigned three guardsmen, armed and armored, to the
Vulnerability Point because the town police are a little shorthanded
since the crime wave in the hamlet of Greenport a couple years back. It
involved some petty theft, racial slur complaints and baggies of pot
sold. The crime wave ended when the village disbanded its minuscule police
force -- which had committed all the crimes.

Locals are taking the heightened security at the ferry with patriotic
stoicism. Our local pennysaver printed a letter from John Wronowski
saying, "National security and safety [must be] at the forefront of our
efforts …since September 11, 2001."

Mr. Wronowski owns the ferry boat and parking lot.

The paper, The Suffolk Times, interviewed a passenger who bravely
travels to visit his inlaws twice a week. He said, with true grit, "I am not
afraid."

But I am. What if there's a sleeper cell in Southold? All they have to
do is review the Homeland Security website for the town's Vulnerability
Point and they'll know, "Hit the water slide, Ahmad! The casino ferry's
being watched!" :D

And there's more here that scares me. There's a jug out at the Lickety
Splitz Ice Cream Parlor on Route 25 for the Cennar Family. It seems
that one of the Cennar kids has been diagnosed with some terrible disease.
Undoubtedly, the doctor bills are killing the family, could bankrupt
them -- and the community jug is out. There's always a jug out for
someone who's ill or got crippled and whose bank account has been wiped away.

And I thought: this is a national security threat. With the lumber yard
shut and the plastics plants gone to China, Al Qaeda could quite easily
gain a couple of recruits in our town: all Bin Laden has to do is offer
health insurance.
Aryavartha
12-09-2005, 23:16
For some reason I just don't care, this tape is a very disapointing sequel, I think Bin Laden needs to start making prequels to attract some attention.

As he's now finding out Americans have a pretty short attention span even if our lives are at stake.

I think that may well be true. ;)

Seriously, I have reasons to believe that the video is for internal consumption. The cells have been busted already.

Is the video available online? Can anyone post a link please? Thanks.
CanuckHeaven
12-09-2005, 23:27
I think that may well be true. ;)

Seriously, I have reasons to believe that the video is for internal consumption. The cells have been busted already.

Is the video available online? Can anyone post a link please? Thanks.
Click on the link (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/videos500251.shtml#).

There are two video links:

• Terrorist Threat Against L.A.

CBS News’ Harry Smith spoke with Los Angeles Police Department Chief William Bratton about a video threat that may be from al Qaeda.

• New U.S. Terrorism Threat

There's a new videotaped threat against the United States, and it is said to be from al Qaeda. It was delivered to ABC News and the CIA is studying it.
Aryavartha
13-09-2005, 08:28
Click on the link (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/videos500251.shtml#).

There are two video links:



Thanks CH. They have only excerpts. Is there a full version online?

I still think that the latest one is just an act of bravado since the cells in US have long been busted.
Aryavartha
13-09-2005, 16:19
Daily Telegraph (Sydney, Australia)
September 13, 2005 Tuesday
HEADLINE: How Adam became Azzam
BYLINE: NICK PAPPS


THE terrorist threatening an al-Qaeda attack on Melbourne is a disgruntled ex-goat farmer from California with an obsession for death metal music.

Gadahn, who appeared in a similar tape last year, calls himself "Azzam the American" and has been in Pakistan and Afghanistan for several years after running away from his hippie father in southern California.

Inquires by The Daily Telegraph have revealed Gadahn is the son of a psychedelic musician named Phil Pearman, who changed the family name to Gadahn and dropped out to become a goat farmer in Winchester, south of Los Angeles.

It is believed Gadahn was first exposed to Islam through the family business, where his father raised goats and slaughtered them in accordance with Islamic law.

"Having been around Muslims in my formative years, I knew well that they were not the bloodthirsty, barbaric terrorists that the news media and the televangelists paint them to be," he wrote on a university website.

In 1995, at the age of 17, Gadahn began attending a mosque in California's Orange County.

In 1998 it is believed Gadahn fled to Pakistan or Afghanistan with his group from the mosque to begin al-Qaeda training. The FBI believes Gadahn began work as a translator for al-Qaeda and has since married a Pakistani woman and fathered a child.

Gadahn has been linked to Pakistani terrorist Abu Zubayah...
Frangland
13-09-2005, 16:28
Ummm yeah, that too.

every state referendum for it was defeated soundly... it was even squashed in California and Oregon, about as liberal as states get in the US.
E Blackadder
13-09-2005, 16:30
stand defiant colonial freinds! dont let them backwards lot scare you!