NationStates Jolt Archive


for a good cause?

FeetBeats
11-09-2005, 22:58
the other day i gave $10 to wal mart for the hurricane katrina relief fund. i later found out from a wal mart employee/friend that this money goes to rebuilding wal marts around the gulf coast. now that is bullshit. i mean it is a measly $10. i've given more money to other katrina relief funds. i would just like to know where my money is going. besides, how are any of the katrina victims going to shop wal mart?

do you think this money should have gone to the victims or to rebuilding wal mart? let me know... :confused:
New Foxxinnia
11-09-2005, 23:02
Why would they rebuild Wal Marts in a place no one is going to live?
FeetBeats
11-09-2005, 23:04
Why would they rebuild Wal Marts in a place no one is going to live?

i guess it is for when it is all cleaned up but that is supposed to be like, 10 years.
Myidealstate
11-09-2005, 23:04
If that's true it borders to fraud IMO.
New Foxxinnia
11-09-2005, 23:05
i guess it is for when it is all cleaned up but that is supposed to be like, 10 years.
Then another huge hurricane will hit.
Kjata Major
11-09-2005, 23:06
If that's true it borders to fraud IMO.

Correction....IS fraud.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
11-09-2005, 23:06
Why would they rebuild Wal Marts in a place no one is going to live?
Because Wal-Mart must go on, even if there is no humanity, there must be Low Prices. When the apocalypse comes, and humanity is spept from the universe in a fit of divine fury, the Wal-Mart will still be there, and it will still offer a wide array of feminine hygeine products, orange juice, and an in store deli run at the lowest prices in the area.
Ashmoria
11-09-2005, 23:06
your friend may well be mistaken. go back to the store and ask the manager. see if there is some kind of official notice about it.

if it turns out to be true, its a great time to call a reporter from your local newspaper. s/he would LOVE to get her/his hands on a story like this
FeetBeats
11-09-2005, 23:07
i would also like to point out that when the twin towers fell, not once did i come across a relief fund for the families of the victims. all i heard was "do you want to help rebuild the towers?". this is getting ridiculous.
FeetBeats
11-09-2005, 23:08
Because Wal-Mart must go on, even if there is no humanity, there must be Low Prices. When the apocalypse comes, and humanity is spept from the universe in a fit of divine fury, the Wal-Mart will still be there, and it will still offer a wide array of feminine hygeine products, orange juice, and an in store deli run at the lowest prices in the area.

don't forget the clothes that are made for fat people (small is medium, medium is large etc...)
Kjata Major
11-09-2005, 23:10
don't forget the clothes that are made for fat people (small is medium, medium is large etc...)

LOL! Ya! Walmart pants can fit me as low as size 34 X_X
FeetBeats
11-09-2005, 23:11
LOL! Ya! Walmart pants can fit me as low as size 34 X_X

i have to wear children's XL and i am 19!
Kjata Major
11-09-2005, 23:12
i have to wear children's XL and i am 19!

Ya, walmart is crafty. I hate that. Like girls wearing Size 0 when it should be -2!
FeetBeats
11-09-2005, 23:12
okay, let me take this in another direction. who believes that it is their responsibility to pitch in and donate money to the cause?
Kjata Major
11-09-2005, 23:15
okay, let me take this in another direction. who believes that it is their responsibility to pitch in and donate money to the cause?

Not responsibility, but to put up a charity to 'rebuild walmarts' is a crime and they should be thrown in jail and closed down if that's the case of taking advantage of a grieving and distraut population with lies and false advertising.
Cana2
11-09-2005, 23:16
Because Wal-Mart must go on, even if there is no humanity, there must be Low Prices. When the apocalypse comes, and humanity is spept from the universe in a fit of divine fury, the Wal-Mart will still be there, and it will still offer a wide array of feminine hygeine products, orange juice, and an in store deli run at the lowest prices in the area.
You mean people accually shop there? Here all we stand out side and protest it. We never though about going inside...
FeetBeats
11-09-2005, 23:25
Not responsibility, but to put up a charity to 'rebuild walmarts' is a crime and they should be thrown in jail and closed down if that's the case of taking advantage of a grieving and distraut population with lies and false advertising.

close down wal mart!?! but how would i get my ridiculously low priced clothing at 3:00 in the morning?
Ashmoria
11-09-2005, 23:26
okay, let me take this in another direction. who believes that it is their responsibility to pitch in and donate money to the cause?
you dont know that it HAS?

http://www.walmartfacts.com/community/article.aspx?id=1331

Donations

More than $3 million of product and water (more than 100 trailer loads) has been donated to shelters and others in the impacted areas. Many of these product donations -- diapers, toothbrushes, wipes and other personal products -- were given to assist evacuees arriving in large numbers at numerous Red Cross shelters earlier this week.
Wal-Mart has donated the use of 19 vacant facilities to various relief agencies. More buildings are being evaluated for potential uses. These facilities are being provided at no cost to the agencies, and Wal-Mart is paying for utilities.
Stores have provided products free of charge in hard hit areas, such as Pass Christian and Waveland, Miss., where other assistance could not arrive. Truckloads of water, ice and dry food were sent to the parking lots of stores to distribute to residents in conjunction with the National Guard. A mobile pharmacy has also been established in Waveland, Miss., since the Wal-Mart store there is not yet open.
Wal-Mart has donated more than 150 computers to Red Cross Shelters, allowing evacuees to locate and communicate with family and friends via the Internet.
Customers can still donate at all store and clubs or online to the Red Cross, Salvation Army and Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund through [www.walmartfacts.com, www.walmart.com, www.walmartfoundation.org, www.walmartstores.com, www.samsclub.com].

Wal-Mart has donated $17 million in cash to aid emergency relief efforts:
$15 million to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund
$1 million to the Salvation Army
$1 million to the American Red Cross.

More than $4 million has been collected in public contributions made directly by customers at the 3,800 U.S. Wal-Mart and SAM’S CLUB locations. These dollars will be donated to emergency relief efforts.

Associates in Germany, the United Kingdom, South Korea, Japan and Puerto Rico also are contributing to fund drives to aid the hurricane victims

they are assuring jobs to their workers who have been evacuated. they will be given jobs at a (now) local walmart. they have brought in thousands of truckloads of water and other supplies. they will fill important prescriptions for free for evacuees who have no money. they are donating computers to shelters so that people can go online to try to find family and friends

what more do you want??
FeetBeats
11-09-2005, 23:31
they are assuring jobs to their workers who have been evacuated. they will be given jobs at a (now) local walmart. they have brought in thousands of truckloads of water and other supplies. they will fill important prescriptions for free for evacuees who have no money. they are donating computers to shelters so that people can go online to try to find family and friends

what more do you want??

so the truth comes out. thank you. but by my second question i mean do you think it is your responsibility to donate to the cause?
Kjata Major
11-09-2005, 23:34
so the truth comes out. thank you. but by my second question i mean do you think it is your responsibility to donate to the cause?

Personally I said no. Then again I am known for doing one thing and saying another like all of America.
Ashmoria
11-09-2005, 23:38
so the truth comes out. thank you. but by my second question i mean do you think it is your responsibility to donate to the cause?
yes. and its your responsibility to donate carefully so you can be sure that the money is well spent. the wasting/scamming of charity money drives me crazy
FeetBeats
11-09-2005, 23:39
yes. and its your responsibility to donate carefully so you can be sure that the money is well spent. the wasting/scamming of charity money drives me crazy

i agree. i've already donated a crapload of money and i'm insanely poor.
Cana2
11-09-2005, 23:49
i agree. i've already donated a crapload of money and i'm insanely poor.
Ditto. Maybe get rid of the words "crapload" and "insanely".
JuNii
11-09-2005, 23:57
if you really wanna makes sure, talk to a lawyer, they might be able to suggest ways of performing an Audit to track the donations, because if it's true that they are using it only to (re)build walmarts, then that is fraud.
The LRPT
12-09-2005, 00:04
This reminds me a lot of The Salvation Army.
Here in San Antonio, we have our few thousand people that we've opted to help, and as such there is a strong sympathy card being played in the local community at times. I've recently learned that The Salvation Army takes, if not all then a good deal indeed, of their recieved donations and then sends it to their National HQ. From there the money is put towards expenses including bills and worker paychecks. Granted that indirectly the money is being put towards those in need through their workers. Also it could be fair to assume that at least some of their bills are a direct result of responding to the current 'crisis' if you will.

I still think there the misconception that the money is going directly "into the pockets of those in need," or, straight into providing the basic human needs (food, clothes, shelter) and maybe even then into luxuries after that (entertainment products like, cd players for example).

Having actually done work at some of the shelters (I will be fair and point out that I've done no work with The Red Cross, just The Salvation Army), it is fairly obvious that most donations in my community are coming from the people. As far as I can tell, "The Salvation Army" is just a recognizable label that people will be able to relate to. All the people running the offices I've come across are from various church groups who can run things surprisingly well in comparison.

Is this not also a kind of fraud and/or deception as well? It is arguable, that while good in cause, is not entirely fair to those who donate. I don't particuarly like the idea of "donating" my money to a worker's paycheck.
01923
12-09-2005, 00:32
Not responsibility, but to put up a charity to 'rebuild walmarts' is a crime and they should be thrown in jail and closed down if that's the case of taking advantage of a grieving and distraut population with lies and false advertising.

It's not a lie if it was advertised as a fund to rebuild stores... Not a very worthy fund, I'll admit, but perhaps we're jumping to conclusions with the fraud charges?

This is why it's important to investigate the charities to which you donate. Including the government.
Myrmidonisia
12-09-2005, 00:39
You mean people accually shop there? Here all we stand out side and protest it. We never though about going inside...
LOL. Imagine my surprise when I found out people shop in IKEA stores, as well.
Myidealstate
12-09-2005, 08:34
so the truth comes out. thank you. but by my second question i mean do you think it is your responsibility to donate to the cause?
To the cause of helping people in dire need? Of course it's our responsibility. We have to care about each other.
Myidealstate
12-09-2005, 08:36
Because Wal-Mart must go on, even if there is no humanity, there must be Low Prices. When the apocalypse comes, and humanity is spept from the universe in a fit of divine fury, the Wal-Mart will still be there, and it will still offer a wide array of feminine hygeine products, orange juice, and an in store deli run at the lowest prices in the area.
The apocalyptic riders have to shop somewhere!