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I mean geez, how unmanly can these liberal-pinko-girlie men get? He should have just stayed home and ate tofu.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/09/katrina.gore.ap/index.html

I mean geez, how unmanly can these liberal-pinko-girlie men get? He should have just stayed home and ate tofu.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/09/katrina.gore.ap/index.html

OMG AHAHAHAH! That is crazy. Though he did do some good and he'd pay himself, which is amazingly good for a politican still. That is a good sign, now if only BUSH was like him.

I don't know, those jets are probably contributing to global warming. :p

But really, this is pretty generous of him. Could have had this guy running things, but nooooo....

If he's got his personal physician then he won't mind wading around the poisonous flood waters then.

I don't know, those jets are probably contributing to global warming. :p

But really, this is pretty generous of him. Could have had this guy running things, but nooooo....

You sound just like Upper Xen...omg....that is just so weird.

Global warming can be fixed....I'm surprised it hasn't already.

He's 57 years old, people. It's so easy for young, healthy people to criticize older folks for being... old. Besides, whats with this "criticize anyone who helps Katrina victims" trend lately? What have you done to help? You're the ones sitting home eating tofu, looks like.

Why doesn't he run for President again? I bet he'd win next time.

HA HA HA! He took a doctor with him to help a bunch of people who were sick and stranded in flood water! HA HA HA! What an idiot!

Why doesn't he run for President again? I bet he'd win next time.

Please don't say that.

He's 57 years old, people. It's so easy for young, healthy people to criticize older folks for being... old. Besides, whats with this "criticize anyone who helps Katrina victims" trend lately? What have you done to help? You're the ones sitting home eating tofu, looks like.

I got a reason. A flight costs $500 and hotels and everything are booked solid and plus I'd screw myself out of a year of schooling. I have no income and can only do my best by supporting them whenever possible, yet I am still against building below sea-level.

Frist is his own damn physician. :p
Why doesn't he run for President again? I bet he'd win next time.
Frist is also capitalizing on the disaster, so his most likely opponent will have the same cards, so to speak. Also, Gore has said some things considered to be very far left-wing in the US in recent years. The Republicans would smear him so much that his party would lose congressional seats. The Democrats won’t run him.

I mean geez, how unmanly can these liberal-pinko-girlie men get? He should have just stayed home and ate tofu.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/09/katrina.gore.ap/index.html
you were just being silly eh? you read the article, right?

KNOXVILLE, Tennessee (AP) -- Al Gore helped airlift some 270 Katrina evacuees on two private charters from New Orleans, acting at the urging of a doctor who saved the life of the former vice president's son.

Gore criticized the Bush administration's slow response to Katrina in a speech Friday in San Francisco, but refused to be interviewed about the mercy missions he financed and flew on Sept. 3 and 4.

However, Dr. Anderson Spickard, who is Gore's personal physician and accompanied him on the flights, said: "Gore told me he wanted to do this because like all of us he wanted to seize the opportunity to do what one guy can do, given the assets that he has."

An account of the flights was posted this week on a Democratic Party Web page. It was written by Greg Simon, president of the Washington-based activist group FasterCures. Simon, who helped put together the mission, also declined an interview.

On Sept. 1, three days after Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast, Simon learned that Dr. David Kline, a neurosurgeon who operated on Gore's son, Albert, after a life-threatening auto accident in 1989, was trying to get in touch with Gore. Kline was stranded with patients at Charity Hospital in New Orleans.

"The situation was dire and becoming worse by the minute -- food and water running out, no power, 4 feet of water surrounding the hospital and ... corpses outside," Simon wrote.

Gore responded immediately, telephoning Kline and agreeing to underwrite the $50,000 each for the two flights, although Larry Flax, founder of California Pizza Kitchens, later pledged to pay for one of them.

"None of the airlines involved required a contract or any written guarantee of payment before sending their planes and volunteer crews," Simon wrote of the American Airlines flights. "One official said if Gore promised to pay, that was good enough for them."

He also recruited two doctors, Spickard and Gore's cousin, retired Col. Dar LaFon, a specialist in internal medicine who once ran the military hospital in Baghdad.

Most critically, Gore worked to cut through government red tape, personally calling Gov. Phil Bredesen to get Tennessee's support and U.S. Transportation Secretary Norm Mineta to secure landing rights in New Orleans.

About 140 people, many of them sick, landed in Knoxville on Sept. 3. The second flight, with 130 evacuees, landed the next day in Chattanooga.

I had an opinion...Oh yeah. What self-important politician isn't helping?

Jeez people, how dull do you have to be to think I was serious in calling him a wimp? How much thicker do I have to pile on the sarcasm there??

No one reads my posts unless I include something nonsinsical for people to react to. :(

Jeez people, how dull do you have to be to think I was serious in calling him a wimp? How much thicker do I have to pile on the sarcasm there??

No one reads my posts unless I include something nonsinsical for people to react to. :(

Whait...they're not being sarcastic?

Whait...they're not being sarcastic?

Serious as Catholics praise god.

I mean geez, how unmanly can these liberal-pinko-girlie men get? He should have just stayed home and ate tofu.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/09/katrina.gore.ap/index.html

Did you even read that link you posted. If you had you would have read that he went down to rescue patients from a charity hospital and recruited those doctors to assist with the evacuees. How is that unmanly of him? Would he have been more of a man if he waded in that toxic waste? I think he did more than our panzy ass president did. Where was the vice-panzy president? At a ball game with Sec. of Def. or shopping for shoes with Sec. of State? He didn't even bother to go down there until the president sent him.

Whait...they're not being sarcastic?

Lol, some yes, some no.

Jeez people, how dull do you have to be to think I was serious in calling him a wimp? How much thicker do I have to pile on the sarcasm there??

No one reads my posts unless I include something nonsinsical for people to react to. :(

You have to make it MUCH thicker. And even then I generally take posts at face value unless I happen to know the posters political beliefs more than I do yours.

See, round these parts, its hard to tell the difference between sarcasm and genuine idiocy... especially with the latter being generally more common than the former.

Did you even read that link you posted. If you had you would have read that he went down to rescue patients from a charity hospital and recruited those doctors to assist with the evacuees. How is that unmanly of him? Would he have been more of a man if he waded in that toxic waste? I think he did more than our panzy ass president did. Where was the vice-panzy president? At a ball game with Sec. of Def. or shopping for shoes with Sec. of State? He didn't even bother to go down there until the president sent him.

What did you expect? He's the Vice President. Nobody cares about Vice-Presidents that aren't in offcie.

Why doesn't he run for President again? I bet he'd win next time.

I think you're right. Here is the push. (http://algore2008.net/)

Did you even read that link you posted. If you had you would have read that he went down to rescue patients from a charity hospital and recruited those doctors to assist with the evacuees. How is that unmanly of him? Would he have been more of a man if he waded in that toxic waste? I think he did more than our panzy ass president did. Where was the vice-panzy president? At a ball game with Sec. of Def. or shopping for shoes with Sec. of State? He didn't even bother to go down there until the president sent him.

I suggest you read the entire thread before you get your panties in a bundle (unless you are in return being sarcastic in some way.) Man, I thought that the idea of criticizing someone for bringing a physician into a disaster area was so ridiculous that no one would take it at face value. I guess I was wrong.

What did you expect? He's the Vice President. Nobody cares about Vice-Presidents that aren't in offcie.

If that were true, then why was this thread started.

You have to make it MUCH thicker. And even then I generally take posts at face value unless I happen to know the posters political beliefs more than I do yours.

See, round these parts, its hard to tell the difference between sarcasm and genuine idiocy... especially with the latter being generally more common than the former.

Very true. You can never really tell, unless you ask. Something like this makes it all the harder though!

You have to make it MUCH thicker. And even then I generally take posts at face value unless I happen to know the posters political beliefs more than I do yours.

See, round these parts, its hard to tell the difference between sarcasm and genuine idiocy... especially with the latter being generally more common than the former.
Like that guy who quoted from a study about Affirmative Action that actually was FOR Affirmative Action while he was against. It was pretty easy to tell the sarcasm involved when you read the first posters article but I mean... there are some idjuts on NS.

If that were true, then why was this thread started.

The article contains finger-pointing.

You have to make it MUCH thicker. And even then I generally take posts at face value unless I happen to know the posters political beliefs more than I do yours.

See, round these parts, its hard to tell the difference between sarcasm and genuine idiocy... especially with the latter being generally more common than the former.

Sigh...see, no one reads my posts. Otherwise this would have been seen as painfully obvious sarcasm and parody of the knee-jerk liberal bashers.

I mean, how could people think the originator of the Cool Science Thread (shameless self-promotion,) wasn't tongue-in-cheek in the original post of this thread?

I suggest you read the entire thread before you get your panties in a bundle (unless you are in return being sarcastic in some way.) Man, I thought that the idea of criticizing someone for bringing a physician into a disaster area was so ridiculous that no one would take it at face value. I guess I was wrong.

LOL, unbundled now. I was writing while the others were posting... I guess I should type a bit faster.

Sigh...see, no one reads my posts. Otherwise this would have been seen as painfully obvious sarcasm and parody of the knee-jerk liberal bashers.

I mean, how could people think the originator of the Cool Science Thread (shameless self-promotion,) wasn't tongue-in-cheek in the original post of this thread?

Yeah, I made a thread about the ridiculousness of banning guns and had people arguing against me as if I was actually for banning guns. Sarcasm is hard to tell online. Especially if I don't read your posts, which I don't. (What did you just write?)

Sigh...see, no one reads my posts. Otherwise this would have been seen as painfully obvious sarcasm and parody of the knee-jerk liberal bashers.

Hell, I could tell just because you actually called liberals (and Gore) "pinko tofu eaters". On a forum like this, that would be a disaster unless you're sarcastic.

Yeah, I made a thread about the ridiculousness of banning guns and had people arguing against me as if I was actually for banning guns. Sarcasm is hard to tell online. Especially if I don't read your posts, which I don't. (What did you just write?)

Too bad there aren't sarcsm tags. Perhaps we need colors corresponding with different nuances of speech. :confused:

I mean geez, how unmanly can these liberal-pinko-girlie men get? He should have just stayed home and ate tofu.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/09/katrina.gore.ap/index.html

Good for him. Admirable, but it looks like someone's trying to set himself up for a second run.

Too bad there aren't sarcsm tags. Perhaps we need colors corresponding with different nuances of speech. :confused:
No.... I think even then no one would get it. Maybe we should just write "sarcasm intended" if we are sarcastic. Or maybe that's not obvious enough for some people.

Too bad there aren't sarcsm tags. Perhaps we need colors corresponding with different nuances of speech. :confused:

If there were, there would be a whole lot less debating on this forum, and debating is what makes it fun. :)

Sigh...see, no one reads my posts. Otherwise this would have been seen as painfully obvious sarcasm and parody of the knee-jerk liberal bashers.

I mean, how could people think the originator of the Cool Science Thread (shameless self-promotion,) wasn't tongue-in-cheek in the original post of this thread?
There are those among us who don't hang on your every word, and take things like thread titles at face value. Consider that, next time.

Closed, due to some pretty obvious flamebaiting.

EDIT: Unlocked, but next time, Gymoor, make the wording a little better. I now realize that this was satire (though poorly worded, in my opinion. I didn't see the satire til it was pointed out to me, and even then...), but if you plan on making it out to be satire that everyone can see, do so.

I mean geez, how unmanly can these liberal-pinko-girlie men get? He should have just stayed home and ate tofu.

(acting as if you were serious in the above)

HEY! Just as all Republicans are not Bush, not all Liberals are Gore!

And, um, what did GW do? Let's recount:
Day 1: hurricane hits coast. GW goes to Arizona to talk about Medicare.

Day 2:Levee breaks in New Orleans. GW goes to San Diego to talk about WWII.

Day 3: NO is flooding. GW goes on Good Moning America to say that nobody anticipated the levee breaking. Little did he know, apparently, that many people, including former levee engineer Geneve Grille, CNN, and most other major networks, had predicted this. Grille actually predicted this THE SATURDAY BEFORE THE STORM HIT!

Day 4: GW FINALY gets down to New Orleans

Gore was on the job the DAY AFTER IT HIT!

Now who was late?

Closed, due to some pretty obvious flamebaiting.

EDIT: Unlocked, but next time, Gymoor, make the wording a little better. I now realize that this was satire (though poorly worded, in my opinion. I didn't see the satire til it was pointed out to me, and even then...), but if you plan on making it out to be satire that everyone can see, do so.


Hmmmph!

[the following is a good natured joke, delivered with a smile and intended to merely gently tease those who are perhaps an iota too fast on the trigger. No feelings are inteded to be hurt, nor are any toes intended to be stepped on in any way. If the target of said gentle ribbing has no toes, then the mention of toes is not intended in any way as a form of ridicule of said toe-less condition.]

Poorly worded! Poorly worded? That, my dear sir or ma'am, is a worse insult than any contained within my humble thread.

But seriouslyfolks, I had thought the satire was painfully obvious. The fact has been pointed out in the thread several times, so hopefully any confusion has been remedied.

No.... I think even then no one would get it. Maybe we should just write "sarcasm intended" if we are sarcastic. Or maybe that's not obvious enough for some people.

I think some people are actively looking for a debate, and will go after it even if you wrote in size 7 red letters "sarcasm". :eek:

[the following is a good natured joke, delivered with a smile and intended to merely gently tease those who are perhaps an iota too fast on the trigger. No feelings are inteded to be hurt, nor are any toes intended to be stepped on in any way. If the target of said gentle ribbing has no toes, then the mention of toes is not intended in any way as a form of ridicule of said toe-less condition.]

It's spelled intended, dumbass! :D

It's spelled intended, dumbass! :D

:rolleyes: well, that's how I intended to spell it (which I did, 3 of the 4 times I used the word....so nyah nyah nyah nyah*)

*note: the word "nyah" is not meant as flamebait. :D

Okay, I think I've thoroughly beaten that dead horse. Shall we move back to the meat of this discussion?

:rolleyes: well, that's how I intended to spell it.

Just make sure it doesn't happen again. ;)

I mean geez, how unmanly can these liberal-pinko-girlie men get? He should have just stayed home and ate tofu.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/09/katrina.gore.ap/index.html
Seems to me as if he was just doing what he could to help. Too bad others like Nancy Pelosi and Teddy Kennedy, Jr., didn't follow his example.

Seems to me as if he was just doing what he could to help. Too bad others like Nancy Pelosi and Teddy Kennedy, Jr., didn't follow his example.

He was being sarcastic. And, I'll say again, it's really cool that he helped as much as he did, but it still seems like he's setting himself up for another run at the Presidency or something. His apparent modesty by refusing an interview coupled with the story being released nevertheless sounds a bit too perfect. Then again, maybe my general hate of him is coloring my opinion of this situation. Either way, good for him.

Seems to me as if he was just doing what he could to help. Too bad others like Nancy Pelosi and Teddy Kennedy, Jr., didn't follow his example.

Teddy has reason to be leery of bodies of water. D'oh!

Humor again people.

Teddy has reason to be leery of bodies of water. D'oh!

Humor again people.
First non-Colodia LOL in awhile. Thank you. :)

First non-Colodia LOL in awhile. Thank you. :)

You are welcome. I have a question for you though: If I made a similar joke about a Republican, would you laugh?

He was being sarcastic. And, I'll say again, it's really cool that he helped as much as he did, but it still seems like he's setting himself up for another run at the Presidency or something. His apparent modesty by refusing an interview coupled with the story being released nevertheless sounds a bit too perfect. Then again, maybe my general hate of him is coloring my opinion of this situation. Either way, good for him.
I've never been either an "evacuee" or a "refugee," but if I had been I'm certain it wouldn't matter one whit to me why someone helped, just as long as they actually helped.

I am glad he is putting the Fred Phelps money to some good use finally.

I had an opinion...Oh yeah. What self-important politician isn't helping?
Well, of course he's self-important and self-serving. That's why he did this on September 3rd, and it was reported on September 9th, with him refusing to give interviews about it. Jeez. Talk about grand-standing, eh? Gore's just an attention-whore.

Why doesn't he run for President again? I bet he'd win next time.

Ya, but it would make for a predeterminedly short run. Aren't you only allowed to win twice?

Ya, but it would make for a predeterminedly short run. Aren't you only allowed to win twice?
But he didn't win the last time, unless you're talking about the popular vote and that'd be really weird if he was told he wasn't allowed to stand again because of that.
Off-topic a bit, but I find it odd how in the US if you lose the presidential race, you're immediately considered a lame duck and thus unable to run again. Gore got more votes than Bush in 2000 but was considered a liability in 2004. Kerry got more votes than anyone else in history, bar Bush and again is considered a complete loser not worthy of consideration for 2008.
Imagine if sports were run that way. 'Sorry Michael Jordan, but you were in a team that lost 103-102, so we're getting rid of you. Loser.'

But he didn't win the last time, unless you're talking about the popular vote and that'd be really weird if he was told he wasn't allowed to stand again because of that.
Off-topic a bit, but I find it odd how in the US if you lose the presidential race, you're immediately considered a lame duck and thus unable to run again. Gore got more votes than Bush in 2000 but was considered a liability in 2004. Kerry got more votes than anyone else in history, bar Bush and again is considered a complete loser not worthy of consideration for 2008.
Imagine if sports were run that way. 'Sorry Michael Jordan, but you were in a team that lost 103-102, so we're getting rid of you. Loser.'

In American politics, if you lose the "loster stink" sticks to you if you lose on a national scale. Everyone knows you lost. No one cares if you lose a city alderman seat or something.

But he didn't win the last time, unless you're talking about the popular vote and that'd be really weird if he was told he wasn't allowed to stand again because of that.
Off-topic a bit, but I find it odd how in the US if you lose the presidential race, you're immediately considered a lame duck and thus unable to run again. Gore got more votes than Bush in 2000 but was considered a liability in 2004. Kerry got more votes than anyone else in history, bar Bush and again is considered a complete loser not worthy of consideration for 2008.
Imagine if sports were run that way. 'Sorry Michael Jordan, but you were in a team that lost 103-102, so we're getting rid of you. Loser.'
In politics, perception is everything.

You are welcome. I have a question for you though: If I made a similar joke about a Republican, would you laugh?
You bet! The vast majority of politicians are repugnant.

You bet! The vast majority of politicians are repugnant.

Good to meet you then.

Well ok on all of that .... but the best thing out of all this is the "Re-Elect Gore in 2004" buttons being sold at algore2008.net .... classic tongue in cheek at its finest. :D

In American politics, if you lose the "loster stink" sticks to you if you lose on a national scale. Everyone knows you lost. No one cares if you lose a city alderman seat or something.

Meh ... it worked out ok for Nixon after he lost in 1960. Came back with a 2 term vengeance ... well ... not quite 2 .... but you get the idea.