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Sex Ed: My Thoughts On

Rotovia-
10-09-2005, 01:06
Now from what I understand many American Highschools get paid by the government to teach abstinence only sex ed programs. Which is fine, if you assume kids aren't horny little beavers. As I've already stated I went to a very liberal-leaning high school. So my sex ed classes were fun.

Interestingly we had ZERO preganancies, ONE case of STDs (it was crabs and it was a friend of mine. Oh how I laughed at her). Now compare this to a neighbouring school who taught abstinence only and had NINE pregeancies & TWELVE cases of STDs (four of which were HIV). And these are only the cases I knew of personally.

I still remember our Pricipal ending a Senior Assembly with: "No Glove, No Love... OUR YOU'LL GET AIDS AND DIE!!!!". That put the fear of God in me... or at least the fear of unsafe sex...

Anyway, poll comming. Let's be curtious and polite people. If you're upset or emotional over a post you read, take a few minutes away from the computer or this thread and then respond. Standard My Thoughts On rules.
Lunatic Goofballs
10-09-2005, 01:09
Saving souls is all well and good(assuming you are in the business of doing so). But my theory is that they have to be alive for you to do so. :)
Kjata Major
10-09-2005, 01:14
NO! We should all run around naked like Brave New World and have "erotic games" and "Feely parties" with contraception mandatory for both males and females. That'd fix that! Everyone belongs to everyone else! ALL PRAISE FREE SEX!

......well that'd fix it wouldn't it.
Galloism
10-09-2005, 01:16
NO! We should all run around naked like Brave New World and have "erotic games" and "Feely parties" with contraception mandatory for both males and females. That'd fix that! Everyone belongs to everyone else! ALL PRAISE FREE SEX!

......well that'd fix it wouldn't it.


I think it's time for your pill.
Vegas-Rex
10-09-2005, 01:17
Abstinence only education just lets kids learn about sex from less creditable sources, so the danger increases dramatically. Even if the kids chose abstinence that makes them even more in danger of STDs because it means that when they do have sex it will be for incredibly powerful emotional reasons and thus they'll be less likely to use protection.

My problem is just that unless you're trying to be a medical student sex ed, drugs, and diet are the only things you'll ever learn in a health class. This, plus the fact that parents rarely have time to teach their kids much themselves, means that when today's generation gets sick it will have no idea how to handle it. While doctors are useful, going to them every time you feel queasy is expensive and unnecessary. People need to know what constitutes serious vs. non-serious illness and how to deal with non-serious stuff.
CSW
10-09-2005, 01:20
Of the 30 kids that I've been keeping track of who went to a restrictive MIDDLE school (abstinence only kids), roughly half of them had sex before they were 16. I love that statistic.

Abstinence only works if you want it, having some gym teacher say "sex is bad kids, so don't do it, because I say so" won't really change anyone's mind.
Lunatic Goofballs
10-09-2005, 01:20
NO! We should all run around naked like Brave New World and have "erotic games" and "Feely parties" with contraception mandatory for both males and females. That'd fix that! Everyone belongs to everyone else! ALL PRAISE FREE SEX!

......well that'd fix it wouldn't it.

I'll bring the beer. :D
Kjata Major
10-09-2005, 01:22
I think it's time for your pill.

I'm serious all of that came from the BOOK by Huxley.

See here: http://www.huxley.net/bnw/

Chapter 3 has alot on that stuff....

He let out the amazing truth. For a very long period before the time of Our Ford, and even for some generations afterwards, erotic play between children had been regarded as abnormal (there was a roar of laughter); and not only abnormal, actually immoral (no!): and had therefore been rigorously suppressed.

A look of astonished incredulity appeared on the faces of his listeners. Poor little kids not allowed to amuse themselves? They could not believe it.

"Even adolescents," the D.H.C. was saying, "even adolescents like yourselves …"

"Not possible!"

"Barring a little surreptitious auto-erotism and homosexuality–absolutely nothing."

"Nothing?"

"In most cases, till they were over twenty years old."

"Twenty years old?" echoed the students in a chorus of loud disbelief.

"Twenty," the Director repeated. "I told you that you'd find it incredible."

"But what happened?" they asked. "What were the results?"

"The results were terrible." A deep resonant voice broke startlingly into the dialogue.

They looked around. On the fringe of the little group stood a stranger–a man of middle height, black-haired, with a hooked nose, full red lips, eyes very piercing and dark. "Terrible," he repeated.
Economic Associates
10-09-2005, 01:23
I'll bring the beer. :D

And I'l' bring the tazers and some nice warm white "jackets" for all of you. :rolleyes:
CSW
10-09-2005, 01:24
I'm serious all of that came from the BOOK by Huxley.

See here: http://www.huxley.net/bnw/

Chapter 3 has alot on that stuff....



Which is the entire point of the book. Utopia through the complete subjugation of mankind through distraction.
Culu
10-09-2005, 01:25
Teaching abstinence? Sounds a bit odd, to me. I mean, it's not as if there were much to teach about it. To me it seems equally featherbrained as "Trying not to fall out of windows 101".
Lunatic Goofballs
10-09-2005, 01:26
And I'l' bring the tazers and some nice warm white "jackets" for all of you. :rolleyes:

Hah! Do you think it's my first time in a 'nice warm white jacket'? I have escaped from them all!

...

Actually, some of the newer high-security jackets can hold me. I had to talk my way out of them. :(
Eastern Coast America
10-09-2005, 01:27
Yes, when teaching contraceptions, abstience should be taught.

You see. There will always be horny teenagers. It doesn't quite work when a guy sees boobs and gets a boner. I mean, teenagers are going to have sex whether you like it or not. So better they have safe sex, than having unprotected sex.
The Island of Rose
10-09-2005, 01:27
Heck as long as they give both sides equal time, that's fine. Because in my school, my fellow classmates don't seem to know that not having sex is also an option.
The Force Majeure II
10-09-2005, 01:28
my teacher just showed us dunk contest videos in sex-ed, and the occasional after-school special about AIDS....of course this was like 14 years ago...

Needless to say, I was a bit shocked when I was cleaning my junk in the shower and it just went off.
Vegas-Rex
10-09-2005, 01:29
Teaching abstinence? Sounds a bit odd, to me. I mean, it's not as if there were much to teach about it. To me it seems equally featherbrained as "Trying not to fall out of windows 101".

They do it a lot like they do "creation science": a small amount of actually describing what's being taught and a whole lot of poorly designed science used to discredit the alternatives.
Sonaj
10-09-2005, 01:53
More practical exercises! :p

In Sweden we get homework to do a short essay about the different kinds of contraceptives (condoms, the pill etc.) and we were basically told that abstinence was the safest (surprise, I know) contraceptive, though intercourse wasn't bad, that it was natural and bla, bla, bla. Anyway, we weren't exactly 'encouraged' to abstain, we were more 'threatened' to abstain. Even condoms falter, you will get AIDS and die.
Crappy teacher. The chances of getting AIDS here are about as high as getting a sunburn in a mine (except for homosexual intercourse, when it is slightly more common).
Kejott
10-09-2005, 01:55
I think abstinence education might work for other people, but I am highly offended at the fact that someone is trying to tell me what to do with my own body. That's just me, but it might work for other people.
Desperate Measures
10-09-2005, 01:58
Look people, abstinence only is the only way to go. Pregnancies will happen and as we all know, God hates pregnant single mothers. Why else isn't there enough day care facilities? AIDS is a sex before marriage disease, people!
You must go to this website or you'll get herpes: http://www.abstinenceonly.com/
Vegas-Rex
10-09-2005, 01:59
I think abstinence education might work for other people, but I am highly offended at the fact that someone is trying to tell me what to do with my own body. That's just me, but it might work for other people.

The question is, is that really any different then schools trying to indoctrinate things they usually do, like academic honesty? Isn't it equally offensive when schools tell you what's moral in regard to things outside of your body?
Vegas-Rex
10-09-2005, 02:01
Look people, abstinence only is the only way to go. Pregnancies will happen and as we all know, God hates pregnant single mothers. Why else isn't there enough day care facilities? AIDS is a sex before marriage disease, people!
You must go to this website or you'll get herpes: http://www.abstinenceonly.com/

ROFL! That site is as funny as the creationist museum!
Ashmoria
10-09-2005, 02:01
abstinence education is fine in middle school where kids really shouldnt be having sex. but my son had abstinence only sex-ed as a junior in highschool! there were several parents in the class. by 17 you have already made yoru decision about abstinence and you need some real information on sex, pregnancy and contraception.
Kjata Major
10-09-2005, 02:02
The question is, is that really any different then schools trying to indoctrinate things they usually do, like academic honesty? Isn't it equally offensive when schools tell you what's moral in regard to things outside of your body?

What would happen if they didn't though? Would it be governmental fault for keeping it silent and out of the way? Its a better thing to teach, and scare a little or be slightly instructive on personal body use so that it doesn't spread.
Kejott
10-09-2005, 02:02
The question is, is that really any different then schools trying to indoctrinate things they usually do, like academic honesty? Isn't it equally offensive when schools tell you what's moral in regard to things outside of your body?

I would definately agree that's offensive as well, but certain aspects of morality are universal, and those should be tought.
Lush Hyrule
10-09-2005, 02:06
NO! We should all run around naked like Brave New World and have "erotic games" and "Feely parties" with contraception mandatory for both males and females. That'd fix that! Everyone belongs to everyone else! ALL PRAISE FREE SEX!

......well that'd fix it wouldn't it. You Must Be Male
Kjata Major
10-09-2005, 02:17
You Must Be Male


.....you don't get sarcasm do you. I think that was pretty obvious by the tone and complete opposition to it. Though it was clear general awareness and yet this 'its wrong' crap should go out the window as long as it is seen and known and treated properly. Make contraception information early and availiable. More sex for children and less STDs, pregnacies and less desire to go 'mental' in a freer world.
Poliwanacraca
10-09-2005, 02:19
If the purpose of sex ed is to educate, as one would assume from the name, then abstinence-only programs are rather pointless. Refusing to discuss alternatives isn't education and never has been. I have no problem whatsoever with strongly encouraging abstinence, but I have a problem with not letting kids know what they can do if they choose not to abstain - because, in the end, it is their choice, and no education of any sort can promise that they won't make the "wrong" decision. Given that, I can't imagine any sane parent who'd want to see their son or daughter get AIDS or become a parent at age 13 because they were too poorly informed to think to use protection. In my book, a reasonable sex ed program could certainly strongly emphasize that abstinence is really the best and safest idea at least until you're a little older...but it really needs to add that if you're going to have sex, please, use a prophylactic of some sort, and here are your options, and here is how they work, and here are resources if you have more questions.
Undelia
10-09-2005, 02:25
Let the condom companies teach sex education. Trojan has a very good TV ad going around that says “Besides abstinence, condoms are the only 100% way to protect yourself form STDs and pregnancy.” They educate AND sell their product. Genius
Kjata Major
10-09-2005, 02:28
Let the condom companies teach sex education. Trojan has a very good TV ad going around that says “Besides abstinence, condoms are the only 100% way to protect yourself form STDs and pregnancy.” They educate AND sell their product. Genius

Ummm...was that serious or were you joking. Cause that is a total lie.
Laerod
10-09-2005, 02:34
Now from what I understand many American Highschools get paid by the government to teach abstinence only sex ed programs. Which is fine, if you assume kids aren't horny little beavers. As I've already stated I went to a very liberal-leaning high school. So my sex ed classes were fun.

Interestingly we had ZERO preganancies, ONE case of STDs (it was crabs and it was a friend of mine. Oh how I laughed at her). Now compare this to a neighbouring school who taught abstinence only and had NINE pregeancies & TWELVE cases of STDs (four of which were HIV). And these are only the cases I knew of personally.

I still remember our Pricipal ending a Senior Assembly with: "No Glove, No Love... OUR YOU'LL GET AIDS AND DIE!!!!". That put the fear of God in me... or at least the fear of unsafe sex...

Anyway, poll comming. Let's be curtious and polite people. If you're upset or emotional over a post you read, take a few minutes away from the computer or this thread and then respond. Standard My Thoughts On rules.How big are those schools?
Rotovia-
10-09-2005, 02:38
How big are those schools?
I believe it's normally school's that receive minimal public funding to begin with and need the extra money.
Laerod
10-09-2005, 02:46
I believe it's normally school's that receive minimal public funding to begin with and need the extra money.That's not why I'm asking. I'd like some comparison betweent the amounts of students to know if 9 pregnancies is really that much more than 1. ;)
Undelia
10-09-2005, 02:53
Ummm...was that serious or were you joking. Cause that is a total lie.
I just saw the ad on television the other night. I may not have not got the quote exactly right, but it was the jist of it.
ArunAktoni
10-09-2005, 02:53
Am i the only one that thinks the post by Laerod was, kind of dumb? Nay, the guy read it completely wrong,

The neighboring school had NINE pregnancies, yes, and TWELVE STD cases, while
The other school had ZERO! ZERO! Pregnancies and ONE STD case.

Does that mean that one school had 9-12 times the attendance as the other? Doubt.
Rotovia-
10-09-2005, 02:55
That's not why I'm asking. I'd like some comparison betweent the amounts of students to know if 9 pregnancies is really that much more than 1. ;)
We had 650, they had 400. At the time I was attending. We stole their atheletic budget for our drama program, so it's not hard to tell why our numbers were up.
The Arch Wobbly
10-09-2005, 03:01
I think it's time for your pill.

Soma?
Laerod
10-09-2005, 03:06
Am i the only one that thinks the post by Laerod was, kind of dumb? Nay, the guy read it completely wrong,

The neighboring school had NINE pregnancies, yes, and TWELVE STD cases, while
The other school had ZERO! ZERO! Pregnancies and ONE STD case.

Does that mean that one school had 9-12 times the attendance as the other? Doubt.I'm sorry but if one of the schools had 500 students and the other 1000 the difference the numbers 1 and 12 would have completely different meanings. I'm only being "intelligent" by wanting to know the whole story. If that counts as "dumb" for you, you might need to read a dictionary.
We had 650, they had 400. At the time I was attending. We stole their atheletic budget for our drama program, so it's not hard to tell why our numbers were up.Thanks, that's all I wanted to know. ;)

Sounds like a nice blow against abstinence only teaching. :D
Fosgate
10-09-2005, 05:46
My school took an interesting, yet probably the safest route:

We had a Sex Ed class in my school, as an elective though. The teacher who taught it (a cool guy) taught it in an interesting way. Realizing that no one can really stop a teenager or anyone else from having sex, he basically taught the students all about sex, and the many ways and types of protection. He never encouraged or rejected sex, but instead he just said it was a only natural for people to do. He did stress the importance of protection when having sex though, but I never once heard the man say "Sex was bad" in any way. He tried to make people understand that if they chose to have sex, at least do it safely.
Serapindal
10-09-2005, 05:53
So we have two choices.

1. Ban sex.

2. Encourage little kids to have sex with each other for fun.

They both sound so good...how to choose? :p
Serapindal
10-09-2005, 05:55
Incest! It's the best, beats all the rests, can't protest, can't contest, so let's go molest!

Teach Incest today.
Fosgate
10-09-2005, 06:18
So we have two choices.

1. Ban sex.

2. Encourage little kids to have sex with each other for fun.

They both sound so good...how to choose? :p

Normally I'd say stop the worrying about it and let people die/have kids from having unsafe sex. Like taking warning labels off of products. However, that would defeat the purpose of this entire discussion.

I believe that it's not a matter of no sex vs. having sex - it's a matter of safe sex education and respect vs. people not understanding/realizing/knowing about the dangers of unsafe sex.

Why tell kids not to have sex when they can go and do it whether or not they've been told they shouldn't? It's like someone robbing you and you saying "It's not right for you to be robbing me". I'ts not going to stop them, and I'm sure you'd get a nice hit in the face or something for that smartass comment.

We should be teaching them about the nature of sex and about different methods safe sex. Let them learn to respect sex a bit more and maybe, just maybe, more kids will practice safe sex or even not have sex at all. We make it such a taboo that kids have a stronger desire to have sex.
Rotovia-
10-09-2005, 06:24
Normally I'd say stop the worrying about it and let people die/have kids from having unsafe sex. Like taking warning labels off of products. However, that would defeat the purpose of this entire discussion.

I believe that it's not a matter of no sex vs. having sex - it's a matter of safe sex education and respect vs. people not understanding/realizing/knowing about the dangers of unsafe sex.

Why tell kids not to have sex when they can go and do it whether or not they've been told they shouldn't? It's like someone robbing you and you saying "It's not right for you to be robbing me". I'ts not going to stop them, and I'm sure you'd get a nice hit in the face or something for that smartass comment.

We should be teaching them about the nature of sex and about different methods safe sex. Let them learn to respect sex a bit more and maybe, just maybe, more kids will practice safe sex or even not have sex at all. We make it such a taboo that kids have a stronger desire to have sex.
This raises a good point. Tell kids sex is bad, they go out and have unsafe sex... show kids a picture of a disease ridden scrotum and watch how quickly those boners shrink.


(Oddly enough I'm not kidding)
Soviet Haaregrad
10-09-2005, 06:29
Heck as long as they give both sides equal time, that's fine. Because in my school, my fellow classmates don't seem to know that not having sex is also an option.

It isn't. :fluffle:
Fosgate
10-09-2005, 06:31
This raises a good point. Tell kids sex is bad, they go out and have unsafe sex... show kids a picture of a disease ridden scrotum and watch how quickly those boners shrink.


(Oddly enough I'm not kidding)

Heh.

The problem with that is that kids will be like "Well, that won't happen to me."
Deeeelo
10-09-2005, 07:39
I guess the safest sex is no sex, but I feel tremendous pity for those who deny themselves on that basis.
Fosgate
10-09-2005, 07:41
I guess the safest sex is no sex, but I feel tremendous pity for those who deny themselves on that basis.

It is the "safest sex", but it's not our place to tell someone they should or shouldn't have sex.
New Burmesia
10-09-2005, 08:07
Well, at school people have to put condoms on polystyrene willies, so we don't do abstinence only.

And I live next to the town with the highest teenage preganacy rate in Europe (Basildon :mad: ), so i'd say that absitnence-only is perhaps better than what we do now.

On, and we also do get shown very vivid pics of STIs. It doesn't put people off.
Upi Upi
10-09-2005, 09:00
I don't think schools should teach this at all. It was the parent's responsibility for all of history before a few years ago, and up until the 20th century, premarital pregnancies were complete rarities. Schools should encourage parents to teach their own kids about these things, and if they are too lazy or ignorant, it should be up to the parents to put their kids in a program entirely separate from the school system to learn whatever it is the government decides kids should learn about sex.
Kaitonia
10-09-2005, 09:59
my teacher just showed us dunk contest videos in sex-ed, and the occasional after-school special about AIDS....of course this was like 14 years ago...

Needless to say, I was a bit shocked when I was cleaning my junk in the shower and it just went off.

Yeah, that tends to happen when washing one's privates... for 15-20 minutes straight. :rolleyes: :p
Saint Curie
10-09-2005, 10:18
Heh...I remember in middle school I'd been put into this fundamentalist Christian church/school with about 100 students total...we didn't get sex ed, but we got this miserable teacher who had an inattentive philandering husband, and she would occasionally launch into a spontaenous bit about how we filthy young men thought marriage should be just fun under the sheets all day, but we were "wrong, wrong WRONG"...

Man, I hope things got better for her at some point...
Liskeinland
10-09-2005, 11:20
Well, from what you're all saying, most of the education in America is total abstinence… while the education we have here doesn't even take into account we might not be fucking each other like rabbits… which offends me mildly. And Britain has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe… I don't reckon either extremes work. Maybe encouraging abstinence, with "but DO, just DO use protection if you do screw someone." Double safety!
Cabra West
10-09-2005, 12:13
I don't think schools should teach this at all. It was the parent's responsibility for all of history before a few years ago, and up until the 20th century, premarital pregnancies were complete rarities. Schools should encourage parents to teach their own kids about these things, and if they are too lazy or ignorant, it should be up to the parents to put their kids in a program entirely separate from the school system to learn whatever it is the government decides kids should learn about sex.

*roflmao

"Complete rarities"? Where did you come up with that idea?
Premarital pregnancies have been a problem for every society for as long as there was marriage. The Greeks complain about it, so do the Romans, and if it wasn't a problem, I doubt that Leviticus would have decreed harsh punishment for it.

The only thing that was different in the past was that for premarital pregnancies, there were but two cures : Marriage or "Anglemaker". Anglemaker being the euphemistic term for a back street abortionist...
Liskeinland
10-09-2005, 12:30
*roflmao

"Complete rarities"? Where did you come up with that idea?
Premarital pregnancies have been a problem for every society for as long as there was marriage. The Greeks complain about it, so do the Romans, and if it wasn't a problem, I doubt that Leviticus would have decreed harsh punishment for it.

The only thing that was different in the past was that for premarital pregnancies, there were but two cures : Marriage or "Anglemaker". Anglemaker being the euphemistic term for a back street abortionist... True… but you'd expect our "advanced" societies to have less of a problem, wouldn't you? At least we don't shove it under the carpet all the time… 'tis a start.
Cabra West
10-09-2005, 12:37
True… but you'd expect our "advanced" societies to have less of a problem, wouldn't you? At least we don't shove it under the carpet all the time… 'tis a start.

In a way. I think the only thing that has changed is that society has less of a problem with pemarital pregnancies. 50 years ago single parents would have been unthinkable, today they are more or less the norm. I don't think that's better or worse, it's different, and it shows more respect to the individual than it did before.

Sex education in school is in fact an achievement, as it makes sure that EVERYBODY knows about what's going on, how to have safe sex, what the risks are, etc. If you leave that up to the parents, many kids would never hear about condoms or AIDS in the first place, you would open the door to misinformations of all kind. "Sex with a virigin will cure AIDS" come to mind...
Liskeinland
10-09-2005, 12:39
In a way. I think the only thing that has changed is that society has less of a problem with pemarital pregnancies. 50 years ago single parents would have been unthinkable, today they are more or less the norm. I don't think that's better or worse, it's different, and it shows more respect to the individual than it did before.

Sex education in school is in fact an achievement, as it makes sure that EVERYBODY knows about what's going on, how to have safe sex, what the risks are, etc. If you leave that up to the parents, many kids would never hear about condoms or AIDS in the first place, you would open the door to misinformations of all kind. "Sex with a virigin will cure AIDS" come to mind... I don't know about where you live, but in our school they barely touch on how nasty the diseases can be. We were shown a video which basically told us about ONE disease (can't remember the name), which apparently makes relieving yourself hurt a great deal. Nothing about AIDS, nothing about infertility (although that could be a blessing, could reduce teenage pregnancies!).
Cabra West
10-09-2005, 12:42
I don't know about where you live, but in our school they barely touch on how nasty the diseases can be. We were shown a video which basically told us about ONE disease (can't remember the name), which apparently makes relieving yourself hurt a great deal. Nothing about AIDS, nothing about infertility (although that could be a blessing, could reduce teenage pregnancies!).

I grew up in Germany... and I got lessons about STDs from 5th grade on till graduation after the 13th grade. No aspect was left out, biological, social, psychological, political, historical, you name it. All methods of contraception were discussed, including reliability and possible side effects.
Funny thing is, I went to a private Catholic school.
Liskeinland
10-09-2005, 12:45
I grew up in Germany... and I got lessons about STDs from 5th grade on till graduation after the 13th grade. No aspect was left out, biological, social, psychological, political, historical, you name it. All methods of contraception were discussed, including reliability and possible side effects.
Funny thing is, I went to a private Catholic school. Well everyone views our lessons as a joke… PSHE in general is taught like a joke. "Here's a video warning members of a boys' school not to get pregnant" is basically how far it went.
Although I really don't know why half the class stared at me when the teacher said "Of course, some of you might be staunch Catholics"… :p
Basically, everyone thinks the way we're taught is shite.
Freedomstaki
10-09-2005, 12:50
They need too. It's know for sure that the kids are gonna have sex...

Why's that... because they didn't know the bad things about it...
But if you do teach sex-ed, they'll see how gross it is and most likely wait.... or maybe be so TRUMAIZED they end up being a 90-Year Old Virgin.

I don't have health class, I heard it's a rumor at my school but I don't know...

I remember a few weeks ago, they did a thing on a high school in Ohio, which teached absistence (which they have to teach out there) there was about 8 pregnat girls...

So let's see...

Which one works?

Sex-ed.
Ifreann
10-09-2005, 13:13
in ireland we first got sex-ed in 6th class in primary school,i dont know that translates to in the american school system,its for 11-12 y/o's.we didnt get much in the way of education about contraception.actually the guys only got taught the guys half and then the girls learned their bit.which is prob why they were in there longer than us,more to learn about.

then in 1st year in secondary school(12-13)the girls got a talk about periods and that,and we learned about pregnancy and contraception and so on in science clas whenever we got onto the human reproductive system,which depended opn the teacher.we never got an actual sex-ed class.

that and we all got 'the talk' from our parents,most of us got it around 11-12 i think.

no we're all 17,and a few are 18 and we're in our last year in secondary school,6th.and there has been 3 pregnancies in this school since i got here,which adds up to about 1100 or so students,mostly girls.one of them is in my year,had a baby girl in between 4th and 5th year.we didnt have anyone telling sex is bad,we didnt have anyoner sayin 'use a condom or DIE!' and we got on fine.


EDIT:actually now that i think of it,the teachers have gotten pregnant lots of times.3 teachers have been on maternity leave twice(each) since ive been here.
Liskeinland
10-09-2005, 13:15
in ireland we first got sex-ed in 6th class in primary school,i dont know that translates to in the american school system,its for 11-12 y/o's.we didnt get much in the way of education about contraception.actually the guys only got taught the guys half and then the girls learned their bit.which is prob why they were in there longer than us,more to learn about.

then in 1st year in secondary school(12-13)the girls got a talk about periods and that,and we learned about pregnancy and contraception and so on in science clas whenever we got onto the human reproductive system,which depended opn the teacher.we never got an actual sex-ed class.

that and we all got 'the talk' from our parents,most of us got it around 11-12 i think.

no we're all 17,and a few are 18 and we're in our last year in secondary school,6th.and there has been 3 pregnancies in this school since i got here,which adds up to about 1100 or so students,mostly girls.one of them is in my year,had a baby girl in between 4th and 5th year.we didnt have anyone telling sex is bad,we didnt have anyoner sayin 'use a condom or DIE!' and we got on fine. Lucky school, then. It does depend on the cultural atmosphere, though. I never got any "talk" from my parents at all, and no good sex ed, but so what? However, sex education often doesn't work because it's not taken seriously.
Cabra West
10-09-2005, 13:17
in ireland we first got sex-ed in 6th class in primary school,i dont know that translates to in the american school system,its for 11-12 y/o's.we didnt get much in the way of education about contraception.actually the guys only got taught the guys half and then the girls learned their bit.which is prob why they were in there longer than us,more to learn about.

then in 1st year in secondary school(12-13)the girls got a talk about periods and that,and we learned about pregnancy and contraception and so on in science clas whenever we got onto the human reproductive system,which depended opn the teacher.we never got an actual sex-ed class.

that and we all got 'the talk' from our parents,most of us got it around 11-12 i think.

no we're all 17,and a few are 18 and we're in our last year in secondary school,6th.and there has been 3 pregnancies in this school since i got here,which adds up to about 1100 or so students,mostly girls.one of them is in my year,had a baby girl in between 4th and 5th year.we didnt have anyone telling sex is bad,we didnt have anyoner sayin 'use a condom or DIE!' and we got on fine.


EDIT:actually now that i think of it,the teachers have gotten pregnant lots of times.3 teachers have been on maternity leave twice(each) since ive been here.

But we do have TV ads "There are 3700 chances of getting pregnant when having unprotected sex. Always use a condom" which get shown at prime time. :D
Ifreann
10-09-2005, 13:40
But we do have TV ads "There are 3700 chances of getting pregnant when having unprotected sex. Always use a condom" which get shown at prime time. :D

its 37 million.god i love that ad,who would ever have sex up against a rusty gate to a field,lol.
Cabra West
10-09-2005, 13:55
its 37 million.god i love that ad,who would ever have sex up against a rusty gate to a field,lol.

I wasn't sure about that number any more... and I've seen that ad so many times ;)
In fairness, that couch doesn't look any more comfortable either...