NationStates Jolt Archive


America gives in terrorists

Tactical Grace
08-09-2005, 19:49
BBC: Animal lab firm's US debut halted

Animal testing group Huntingdon Life Sciences had its planned New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) listing pulled just 45 minutes before it was due to go ahead.

Executives from the UK research group were taken aside by the exchange's boss and told the listing had been halted.

The NYSE is reported to have received calls warning that the exchange could be threatened by animal rights activists opposed to the firm's debut.

More at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4225130.stm

Lead by example, eh boys? :rolleyes:

I'd love to hear what hope there is in the struggle against al-Qaeda-inspired groups, when the NYSE is scared of the ALF sending some excrement through the letterbox. :headbang:
Gun toting civilians
08-09-2005, 19:57
hey, I'd have no trouble treating ALF, ELF and any extremist group who thinks that burning down priviate property the same way that we would handle any middle eastern terrorist organiztion. Unfortunatly, I think I'm in the minority there.
Gauthier
08-09-2005, 19:58
BBC: Animal lab firm's US debut halted



More at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4225130.stm

Lead by example, eh boys? :rolleyes:

I'd love to hear what hope there is in the struggle against al-Qaeda-inspired groups, when the NYSE is scared of the ALF sending some excrement through the letterbox. :headbang:

If they're lucky it'll be just a bag of shit. Otherwise it can go all the way up to arson. Remember that ALF and it's sponsor PETA have encouraged arsonists commiting crimes for their cause (Rodney Coronado anyone?).

But unlike anything Islamic, PETA and ALF are both state-sanctioned and tax-free terrorist organizations.
Tactical Grace
08-09-2005, 20:00
But unlike anything Islamic, PETA and ALF are both state-sanctioned and tax-free terrorist organizations.
:headbang: I can't believe it, when they admit in public that they pour paint-stripper onto cars or set them on fire, that they are tolerated as a legitimate protest movement.

I say just :sniper: them all.
Coldwood
08-09-2005, 20:06
While i don't give a damn about the fanatics from al-kaida, this kind of 'terrorism' makes sense too me.
What animals are subjected too is one of the most horrid things in the world, it the abducted people come in one piece, those eco terrorists are too soft on them.
And burning down an inanimate object is hardly comparable to hurting an animal.
Tactical Grace
08-09-2005, 20:08
And burning down an inanimate object is hardly comparable to hurting an animal.
Heh, nah, these are people who put rodents above human beings. The arson put lives at risk, and then there are the death threats and actual physical violence.
Refused Party Program
08-09-2005, 20:10
While i don't give a damn about the fanatics from al-kaida, this kind of 'terrorism' makes sense too me.
What animals are subjected too is one of the most horrid things in the world, it the abducted people come in one piece, those eco terrorists are too soft on them.
And burning down an inanimate object is hardly comparable to hurting an animal.

While some animals are put through needless cruelty, halting medical research is hardly going to get much sympathy. It is unfortunate that so much research depends upon animal testing but at this moment in time there is no alternative for some types of study.

Some of these nutjobs also forced a breeding farm to close in the UK, even going to the lengths of desecrating family members' graves.
Utracia
08-09-2005, 20:30
I bet a lot of these wackos just get a rush out of breaking the law and get some feeling of righteousness that they are doing these illegal things for a cause.
Squi
08-09-2005, 20:50
Actually it was Huntington that gave in, the NYSE only requested (not demanded) that Huntington postpone trading on the NYSE. Despite speculation that the NYSE made this request on the basis of threats, no one knows, alternatively it could be the fact that the firm which was going to make the market for Huntington's stock pulled out at the last minute. Regardless, the NYSE is not America, is not part of the US government and is not representative of the US. One might as well comment about how craven the UK was in face of these same terrorist, Huntingtons came to the US because all the British companies they did business with decided doing business with them was not worth being firebombed.
The Black Forrest
08-09-2005, 21:01
Heh, nah, these are people who put rodents above human beings. The arson put lives at risk, and then there are the death threats and actual physical violence.

And how many people have they killed?
Gun toting civilians
08-09-2005, 22:01
All we need is for the Islamofascists to realise that all they need to do is buy off a few senators the same way the ALF and ELF do. Then they can come over here and get the government to protect them.

Human life is more important than animal life. Thats why we eat animals. It seems to me that most of those that associate with PETA and its more radical off-shoots are people who have lived in cities there whole life and have a very limited very of what nature is really like.
Blackfoot Barrens
08-09-2005, 22:06
We don't negociate with terrorists, godammit! Christ, where's the police state when you need it eh? Eh?
The Black Forrest
08-09-2005, 22:09
All we need is for the Islamofascists to realise that all they need to do is buy off a few senators the same way the ALF and ELF do. Then they can come over here and get the government to protect them.

Human life is more important than animal life. Thats why we eat animals. It seems to me that most of those that associate with PETA and its more radical off-shoots are people who have lived in cities there whole life and have a very limited very of what nature is really like.

We don't eat all animals. Some would kill us. It has even been argued that the eating of Chimps is what eventually led to AIDS.

As to where the PETA people live, nahh they come from all walks of life. I know a farmer that gives them money because he doesn't like the testing done for makeup.....
Sumamba Buwhan
08-09-2005, 22:15
All we need is for the Islamofascists to realise that all they need to do is buy off a few senators the same way the ALF and ELF do. Then they can come over here and get the government to protect them.

Human life is more important than animal life. Thats why we eat animals. It seems to me that most of those that associate with PETA and its more radical off-shoots are people who have lived in cities there whole life and have a very limited very of what nature is really like.

who's "we" - I don't eat animals and that goes for hundreds of thousands of other humans. but if we are going to lump all humans together then "we" also eat humans. so obviously humans are not more important than animals by your logic. of course I don't think "we" eat animals because we think they are less important.

Oh no, I outed myself as a vegetarian and now I am goign to be put on the same level as those ALF idiots. for the record, I think they are a bunch of dimwits.
Moseley and Stirchley
08-09-2005, 22:16
hey, I'd have no trouble treating ALF, ELF and any extremist group who thinks that burning down priviate property the same way that we would handle any middle eastern terrorist organiztion. Unfortunatly, I think I'm in the minority there.


No your not :sniper: :mp5:
Gun toting civilians
08-09-2005, 22:22
Let me clarify my earlier post. Most people have no problem eating meat or using animal based products.

If you want to be a vegitarian for what ever reason, thats your choice. By no means can it be called the majority opinion.
The Black Forrest
08-09-2005, 22:24
Let me clarify my earlier post. Most people have no problem eating meat or using animal based products.

If you want to be a vegitarian for what ever reason, thats your choice. By no means can it be called the majority opinion.

How many Hindu are there?
Myrcia
08-09-2005, 22:30
How many Hindu are there?

Not enough to qualify as the majority, although their numbers are sizeable.
Squi
08-09-2005, 23:41
And how many people have they killed?
As a note, none directly (I think) at this point, but not from lack of trying. Unlike many ALF and ELF affialiates, groups like SHAC are not concerned with human life. These are the people who ran a letter bomb campaign and have been involved in assaults on people (not with red paint, with crowbars) and firebombing buildings with people in them. Some groups are most considerate of human life and go to legnths to prevent harming people, but Huntington has captured the ire of the other rype as well.
Squi
08-09-2005, 23:46
How many Hindu are there?What bearing does this have on enforced vagitarianism? Some Hindus eat meat and most Hindus who are vegitarians believe it would be wrong to force vegitarianism upon the unwilling. It does have a bearing on humans superior to animals, but not to vegitarianism.
Tactical Grace
09-09-2005, 00:29
Actually it was Huntington that gave in, the NYSE only requested (not demanded) that Huntington postpone trading on the NYSE.
Where did you hear that? Because this story contradicts what you say completely: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4228086.stm
Wiztopia
09-09-2005, 00:38
I hate these goddamn assholes. I wish the government would do more to arrest them. :sniper: (There should be an AK47 smiley)
Karaska
09-09-2005, 01:26
Nah lets do chemical experiments on rapists and murderors on death sentence. I mean they killed and destroyed people's life and their going to get a gentle poke in the arm...
But since I know, no one out there is going to support me in torturing rapists and murderors
:( I hope they stab the shot in very very hard and that its one of those push the needle in type of shots...
Vlad von Volcist
09-09-2005, 01:30
While i don't give a damn about the fanatics from al-kaida, this kind of 'terrorism' makes sense too me.
What animals are subjected too is one of the most horrid things in the world, it the abducted people come in one piece, those eco terrorists are too soft on them.
And burning down an inanimate object is hardly comparable to hurting an animal.

So you would rather have the scientist test on humans?
You, PETA, and ALF are all fucking retards.
The Abomination
09-09-2005, 01:53
Damn it, why can't these regressive morons just go sleep with the damn animals they're so fond of. Breed yourselves out, scumbags!

I mean, I can see where they're coming from with the make-up testing. That does seem a bit needlessly cruel. But medical testing saves human lives. Oh the mindblowing horror, I think I'll go steal some poor guinea pig farmers dead mother.

I wish, I WISH that we were allowed to hunt them with rifles. Or, even better, attack their strongholds with MOABs. That would make me enormously happy.
Katganistan
09-09-2005, 02:00
While some animals are put through needless cruelty, halting medical research is hardly going to get much sympathy. It is unfortunate that so much research depends upon animal testing but at this moment in time there is no alternative for some types of study.

Some of these nutjobs also forced a breeding farm to close in the UK, even going to the lengths of desecrating family members' graves.

They stole the guinea pig farm owners' mother's body from her grave. The owners caved in after quite a long period of harassment in hopes they will return their mother's corpse.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/08/24/uk.guineapigs.reut/

I also read it in The Economist this morning.
FreeLance Americana
09-09-2005, 02:09
if gays can marry i can eat the animals!

*waiter, bring me the koala milkshake and a side order of hamsters*
Squi
09-09-2005, 04:48
Where did you hear that? Because this story contradicts what you say completely: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4228086.stmMSNBC had their story that way, sourced to a Huntington spokesperson. Could be either way, but the major US business institutions tend to make requests more than demands , "We request that you resign" more than "We demand that you resign". Cuts down on the lawsuits that way, after all HLS can possibly sue for breach of contract if the NYSE postpones listine HLS on its own, while if HLS postponed the listing at the request of the NYSE they cannot.