NationStates Jolt Archive

Forgive my morbidness, first of all.
But I've always been wondering if dying can be painless, if there is any way of killing oneself without needing to fear the pain.

I've been looking around on the internet lately, I found a book that might provide answers, but the price just scares me of ...link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786709405/qid=1126168137/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-1630776-2847139?v=glance&s=books)

And before anybody starts trying to "talk me out of it", I don't plan to jump of the next building just yet. At the moment, I'm curious, and I somehow like to always have an alternative option, hence the question ;)

I'm betting high explosive would be painless. Cost really isn't a factor. Just put it on your credit card.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

...........It brings on many changes....................

I'm betting high explosive would be painless. Cost really isn't a factor. Just put it on your credit card.

Actually, that's one of the options I wouldn't got for. Simply because you would need to know exactly how to blow them up, otherwise you could end up maimed and in a wheelchair forever. Kind of counterproductive in that way...

:eek: :eek: :eek:

...........It brings on many changes....................

*lol... Yes, I do have that song in mind right now...

That's just what this fucking world needs - a suicide manual for the uninventive. :rolleyes:

That's just what this fucking world needs - a suicide manual for the uninventive. :rolleyes:

Better safe than sorry...

You alright Cabra?-You are starting to scare me.

But I've always been wondering if dying can be painless, if there is any way of killing oneself without needing to fear the pain.

i always thought car exhaust + hose pipe into car (= suffocation) would be relatively painless myself. you'd be unconcious after a couple of minutes so you wouldn't have to even be there for the 'end'

edit: but please don't try it CW :eek:

Here you go.

i always thought car exhaust + hose pipe into car (= suffocation) would be relatively painless myself. you'd be unconcious after a couple of minutes so you wouldn't have to even be there for the 'end'
Nausia is pain?

Nausia is pain?
less painful than hitting the ground after a 30 foot drop :eek:

hypothermia is how id do it if i ever felt the urge, because it numbs the brain, causing you to want to curl up in a ball and go to sleep, from which, of course, you never wake up.

i always thought car exhaust + hose pipe into car (= suffocation) would be relatively painless myself. you'd be unconcious after a couple of minutes so you wouldn't have to even be there for the 'end'

edit: but please don't try it CW :eek:

I couldn't, I don't have a car ;)

Carbon Monoxide poisoning is meant to be painless, from what our chemistry teacher told us in class - you lose consciousness and then suffocate. Essentially you die without even realising it (well, I guess they're assuming that because people revived from accidental poisoning report not having felt any pain... or something. Actually, I don't know why my chemistry teacher was even teaching us about suicide methods... hrm... >.>)

There's really no 'painless' suicide method if you take into consideration the pain of the poor sod who has to find you afterwards though. No better way to totally fuck someone over than to have them find your dead body. 'Specially if they know you when you're alive.

I couldn't, I don't have a car ;)

Use a grill barbeque instead. Or get basically anything that produces carbon monoxide as a by-product.

Here you go.
Well, that should be about enough to put anyone off.

You alright Cabra?-You are starting to scare me.

Just as usual. Nothing to be scared about, I guess.
But to be honest, I generally don't have the intention to see it all through until old age gets me, that's why I've always been interested in that topic.

No, no plans on any actions yet. Please don't worry.

I have a question.

Are you seriously contemplating suicide, or just seeking attention?

Becuase if your'e making a thread to get attention, by asking this kind of question, then your the lowest of the low.

If you are seriously considering doing it....you need to talk to someone.

I reckon sticking a gun in one's mouth and pulling the trigger would cause instantaneous death, therefore rendering it painless. I suppose you'd have to get the angle right or whatever though - and of course guns aren't that easy to come by here (unless you know the 'right' people...).

However, while I don't have the same abhorrence for suicide that many people do, I really hope you don't do it! If you're really just curious, fair enough - I certainly know what it's like to have a morbid streak ;) But if it goes deeper than that, please get help before it gets to this stage. Sorry if that sounds like patronising, psuedo-pyschoanalytical bullshit; it's not intended that way.

Edit:

No, no plans on any actions yet. Please don't worry.Oh, good :)

No, no plans on any actions yet.
Good.

[QUOTE=Cabra West]Forgive my morbidness, first of all.
But I've always been wondering if dying can be painless, if there is any way of killing oneself without needing to fear the pain.

I've been looking around on the internet lately, I found a book that might provide answers, but the price just scares me of ...link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786709405/qid=1126168137/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-1630776-2847139?v=glance&s=books)

Hmm.... interesting. But don't tempt me. I have wondered about spraying aerosol directly into your mouth. Instant death- surely it wouldn't hurt if it was so intant.

I have a question.

Are you seriously contemplating suicide, or just seeking attention?

Becuase if your'e making a thread to get attention, by asking this kind of question, then your the lowest of the low.

If you are seriously considering doing it....you need to talk to someone.

Neither of the two, I'm simply curious. But thanks for judging me so graciously :p

I had an old school mate opt for the exhaust and hosepipe method, whereas a mates mate simply hanged himself.

Personally, i always figured i'd go for a couple packs of sleeping pills washed down with a few Jack D's...
But not anything that'd leave me physically maimed when i cock it up.

Hmm.... interesting. But don't tempt me. I have wondered about spraying aerosol directly into your mouth. Instant death- surely it wouldn't hurt if it was so intant.

Just any aerosol? What would kill you there? And why would it be instant?

I have wondered about spraying aerosol directly into your mouth. Instant death- surely it wouldn't hurt if it was so intant.I'm not sure. I knew a girl at school who used to spray aerosol spray aerosol into her mouth quite reguarly (apparently, this was entertaining for everyone else). Then she breathed it out again, and went on about her business. To the best of my knowledge, she never had any side effects never mind death! That said, I suppose it depends on the volume you spray, the ingredients of the spray etc etc.

Personally, i always figured i'd go for a couple packs of sleeping pills washed down with a few Jack D's...
But not anything that'd leave me physically maimed when i cock it up.

There was something I heard about sleeping pills lately... aparently, most of them have an ingredient added that makes you trow up should you overdose them, to prevent them from being used in suicides. I don't know how they would react in combination with alcohol either.

From what I heard many suicide attempts leave people maimed and - in the end - in a more desperate situation than before, which is why I think one should get as much information as possible before attempting anything.

Spraying an aerosol into your mouth?
Urghh.
Reckon that'd just make you choke. But what do I know?
If ya suck the nosel you might get lucky...

But if you vomited in your sleep you might go down a la Jimi Hendrix, Bon Scott, that dood from Drowning Pool etc.
Rock out then drop out.

Here's a thought. Suicide by cop via "terrorism".

So many jurisdictions have a shoot-to-kill policy now, right? Tie some frozen hotdogs to your waste, throw on a loose shirt, and have some wires sticking out of it. Run in to a nice, public place, preferably a governmental building, and start screaming about how the oppression has to stop, or some other such tripe.

You could even have a note in your pocket with the words, "HA HA, fooled you!" in big sparkly letters.



Okay, maybe I laugh a little too easily at tragedy these days...

Neither of the two, I'm simply curious. But thanks for judging me so graciously :p


Sorry, but I dont believe there are many who possess "passing curiosities" about suicide.

Those that do..often become obsessed quickly.

Ive had a few freinds attempt suicide, a couple succeeded, so I dont like anyone casually asking questions about it.

However, there are also people who like to talk endlessly about it, or even make up threads about it, to gain attention, wich is really what most suicide attempts are all about.

So....wich is it?

Sorry, but I dont believe there are many who possess "passing curiosities" about suicide.

Those that do..often become obsessed quickly.

Ive had a few freinds attempt suicide, a couple succeeded, so I dont like anyone casually asking questions about it.

However, there are also people who like to talk endlessly about it, or even make up threads about it, to gain attention, wich is really what most suicide attempts are all about.

So....wich is it?

Well, if I have to choose it would be more of an obsession. It's not really a passing curiosity, it's something that I've been interested in for almost as long as I can think.
Yes, I did attempt it once, but as I was 13 at the time it really ended up being a very pathetic attempt indeed.

I don't really care if you think that I'm an attention whore by creating a thread like this, that's really your problem if you do. I'm genuinly curious as to different methods, and if I should end up using one of them is my own business.

Sorry, but I dont believe there are many who possess "passing curiosities" about suicide.

Those that do..often become obsessed quickly.

Ive had a few freinds attempt suicide, a couple succeeded, so I dont like anyone casually asking questions about it.

However, there are also people who like to talk endlessly about it, or even make up threads about it, to gain attention, wich is really what most suicide attempts are all about.

So....wich is it?I have a few skeletons in my cupboard regarding suicide as well, that (no harm to anyone) I am not prepared to discuss here. Suffice to say that they had deep personal effect on me. However, despite being a pretty happy person, I do have an interest in morbidity, and think I have every right to have said interest. I am far from obsessed - it is very definitely not something that prevails my everyday life. I find morbid discussions like these more interesting from a psychological point of view - why do it, why do it a certain way etc etc. I don't consider myself to be a bad person for this.

I also think that, from a mental health point of view, it's better to discuss issues like this than not. Whether it is attention-seeking or whether it isn't, contemplation of suicide ought to be taken seriously. I am not suggesting that CW specifically is doing either of these things, but I would think it would be better to be informed on the subject than not - in the hopefully unlikely event that anyone on this thread knows someone who may be thinking about suicide, maybe discussing the methods would give more awareness of their intentions. For example, suicide method x involves materials a, b and c, that otherwise appear pretty inocuous and everyday. It's a longshot, but could provide advanced warning.

I'm with Kazcaper and Cabra West.

I, like some of the others here, have had a couple of incidents in the past.
Whilst i'm quietly content at the moment, once you hit rock bottom you have to accept that there's every possibilty of hitting it again.

And you can't save someone from themselves, but it's good to talk and to know you're not alone.

Well, if I have to choose it would be more of an obsession. It's not really a passing curiosity, it's something that I've been interested in for almost as long as I can think.
Yes, I did attempt it once, but as I was 13 at the time it really ended up being a very pathetic attempt indeed.

I don't really care if you think that I'm an attention whore by creating a thread like this, that's really your problem if you do. I'm genuinly curious as to different methods, and if I should end up using one of them is my own business.


Im not calling you an attention whore, but you wouldnt be the first to do such a thing.

However, if youre actually considering this, have you though about talking with someone about it?

I, like some of the others here, have had a couple of incidents in the past.
Whilst i'm quietly content at the moment, once you hit rock bottom you have to accept that there's every possibilty of hitting it again.

And you can't save someone from themselves, but it's good to talk and to know you're not alone.Indeed. While I think suicide can and should be avoided, I do ultimately feel that it's an individual's choice. So many people call it selfish and cowardly, and that may well be how it is for them. But I also think that a lot of people who haven't experienced depression don't understand just how debilitating and terrible it really is; sometimes, one honestly feels that there is no other way. I personally don't see it as cowardly as I feel it must be a huge decision to never experience anything - good or bad - ever again. While I understand why people think it selfish, the flip side of that is that you may feel a burden to those around you and wish to upset their life no longer with your continued presence in it. Of course, the people in question almost certainly don't agree, but it's hard to convince a depressed person of that. It's also immensely difficult to think rationally when in the throes of a low ebb.

I'm with Kazcaper and Cabra West.

I, like some of the others here, have had a couple of incidents in the past.
Whilst i'm quietly content at the moment, once you hit rock bottom you have to accept that there's every possibilty of hitting it again.

And you can't save someone from themselves, but it's good to talk and to know you're not alone.As far as I've been told by my therapist and a guy from a suicide telephone service, people at rock bottom don't commit suicide. You lack the "energy", so it's usually on their way down or when they're getting better that people attempt suicide.

As far as I've been told by my therapist and a guy from a suicide telephone service, people at rock bottom don't commit suicide. You lack the "energy", so it's usually on their way down or when they're getting better that people attempt suicide.I would say that's largely, but not exclusively, true. It is also very hard to determine what exactly 'rock bottom' is; you may think things can't get any worse, and then they do. Where exactly is the line drawn?

Im not calling you an attention whore, but you wouldnt be the first to do such a thing.

However, if youre actually considering this, have you though about talking with someone about it?

Again, I'm not considering killing myself right now. But I am considering it for the future. And yes, I tried to talk about it at some earlier stage, at times when I was seriously considering it, but in all cases I found the people I was talking to to be far from understanding.

I'm not considering it now because I think it would hurt people I don't want to see hurt. It would be egoistical and cruel. I'm however pretty positive that at one point, I won't have people I could hurt any more, or else I just won't care any more. And that's more or less the point when I would really consider to take action. But not now.

But the intention of this thread was not motives, it was methods...

Im not calling you an attention whore, but you wouldnt be the first to do such a thing.

However, if youre actually considering this, have you though about talking with someone about it?
I'm curious about this and I've never thought about killing myself. What's the most painless way to die is quite harmless question and I would like to know the answer too. Because I might think about killing myself if e.g. I get a cancer that will kill me in few months and it's going to be very painful.

I reckon sticking a gun in one's mouth and pulling the trigger would cause instantaneous death, therefore rendering it painless. I suppose you'd have to get the angle right or whatever though - and of course guns aren't that easy to come by here (unless you know the 'right' people...).
Works even better if you have your mouth filled with water, if I remember correctly.

Actually, that's one of the options I wouldn't got for. Simply because you would need to know exactly how to blow them up, otherwise you could end up maimed and in a wheelchair forever. Kind of counterproductive in that way...
It's easy - put a dynamite cartridge between your lips and set the fuse on fire. You're supposed to be in for a smoke that will blow your head off...

I would say that's largely, but not exclusively, true. It is also very hard to determine what exactly 'rock bottom' is; you may think things can't get any worse, and then they do. Where exactly is the line drawn?No clue. I can only recount what everyone that professionally deals with suicide has told me. ;)

But the intention of this thread was not motives, it was methods...
Driving in front of a truck seems to be quite popular around here. The worst possible method IMO.

Driving in front of a truck seems to be quite popular around here. The worst possible method IMO.
Jumping in front of a train is.

Jumping in front of a train is.
Well, at least that won't put anyone on the train on danger..

less painful than hitting the ground after a 30 foot drop :eek:

thing is, if you hit the ground at the right angle, you wouldn't feel a thing, it's just like diving off a diving board - head first ;)

Yeah. Who the hell would wanna jump in front of a train? Have these people not seen Rotten.com or Ogrish.com?

Drowning is meant to be relatively quick. Apparently, if you breathe in under water, something trips out in your brain and you're rendered unconcious.

Jumping in front of a train is.Yeah, and then everyone complains about how said person should have chosen a method that doesn't affect public transportation... :(
I've been in an Underground station shortly after something like that happened. I didn't go to look at the "spectacle"...

Well, at least that won't put anyone on the train on danger..
Not in danger no. But it's far from pretty and traumatic for the machinist and the travellers. The sound in the train is horrid. The train personel also has to cover the body (or rather what is left of it). Not to mention the guys who have to clean up the rest.

I talked to one of these guys a little while ago. He once picked a heart from between the rails.

Driving in front of a truck seems to be quite popular around here. The worst possible method IMO.

Definitely. That's one of the methods that might not succeed in killing you, but most likely will be painful.
And you would traumatise another person. I find that ... well, selfish and irresponsible. But it's kind of hard to tell that to somebody who just tried to kill himself, really.

personally, i believe the gunshot to the head method is best, but... if you dont have the self controll to do that... than i would suggest tying cinder blocks to your feet, and drop them off a bridge

Personally, I think I'd go for the guillotine (the one with the diagonal blade), since the decapitation is very safe and quick, which was in fact the motivation of the french to invent it.

Yeah. Who the hell would wanna jump in front of a train? Have these people not seen Rotten.com or Ogrish.com?

Drowning is meant to be relatively quick. Apparently, if you breathe in under water, something trips out in your brain and you're rendered unconcious.


No, thats not true.

You stay concious the whole way through it.
See, its like getting high off of inhalants.
The deprivation of oxygen gives you euphoric sense, as you slowly fade from life.

Its fairly quick, yes, but the natural response is to panic.
After that...bliss...and....dark.

Damn.
Drowning would suck then.

But there was a serial killer at the turn of the 20th century dubbed the "wives in the bath" killer (can't remember his name). He'd wait for his misses to take a bath, come in with the ruse that her were going to clean her feet then grab her legs and pull them upwards. The sudden jolt of water up their noses knocked them out - proved by Sir Bernard Spillsbury, pathologist extraordinaire.

Personally, I think I'd go for the guillotine (the one with the diagonal blade), since the decapitation is very safe and quick, which was in fact the motivation of the french to invent it.

well, yes the guillotine would be effective. but where in HELL do you intend to get a guillotine? build it? where do you intend to get the plans? "Carpentry projects for the do-it-at-home suicidist"?