NationStates Jolt Archive

I just on CNN. They aren't just doing an evacuation right now, but a forced, mandatory evacuation. There are some people who, for whatever reason, refuse to leave their homes and Lousiana's police chief said that they're going to remove them, and are prepared to use force, if necessary. The military said that they will take part in the evacuation, but not the physical part, with regards to physically removing residents from their homes.

What's your take on this? And is it Constitutional?

Well, why would someone want to live is water that just got contaminated by toxic waste? An officer recieved third degree burns JUST BY BIENG IN THE WATER! Plus, noone wants any animals spared a fate of drowning/starving to death unless all the people leave. Gotta think about the animals, like anyone cares if a few thousand dogs slowly starve to death or are burned by toxic waste mixed with sewer water.

I just on CNN. They aren't just doing an evacuation right now, but a forced, mandatory evacuation. There are some people who, for whatever reason, refuse to leave their homes and Lousiana's police chief said that they're going to remove them, and are prepared to use force, if necessary. The military said that they will take part in the evacuation, but not the physical part, with regards to physically removing residents from their homes.

What's your take on this? And is it Constitutional?

Is it constitutional? That's a tough question to answer. We might find out soon. But until we do, it's prudent. As someone already said, the flood waters are toxic. They've saturated the ground who knows what dangers are there? Not to mention that resources spent on trying to help those people survive in an effectiely hostile environment are resources better spent trying to reclaim it.

There were alot of people who could have left the city on thier own before the storm as told to do so, and decided to stay and many of those are now dead.

At least some of these people who refuse to leave now, had ways of leaving on thier own, but refused to leave
before the storm as well, despite being told to do so.

The water is toxic, this is a safety issue. As long as they are there all efforts to provide supplies with be in vain. If the police left them there they people would bitch because "they're not helping people they could be".

Since martial law is declared, all civil rights (except for basic human rights), are put on the back burner in the interests of public safety.

Is this right? It depends on what "right" is.

Is this the right thing to do? Yes. Martial Law is the rule.

Should they use force? Yes. with Martial Law, people have no choice but to comply and those who don't have no reason to whine.

Since martial law is declared, all civil rights (except for basic human rights), are put on the back burner in the interests of public safety.

Is this right? It depends on what "right" is.

Is this the right thing to do? Yes. Martial Law is the rule.

Should they use force? Yes. with Martial Law, people have no choice but to comply and those who don't have no reason to whine.
False.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law#United_States_of_America

"Contrary to many media reports, martial law has not been declared in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, because no such term exists in Louisiana state law"

Furthermore, the government cannot suddenly decide to be unconstitutional... That's called an insurrection or a rebellion. Even if the state or federal law gives the military the power, if someone is handcuffed or shot by police, they would certainly have the right to take their case to the Supreme Court.

Because, while I agree with the decision to move them, it's disputable whether the temporary housing is "just compensation."