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Some unexpected Gallup poll numbers suggest that post-Hurricane mudslinging hasn't left President Bush very dirty, if these numbers are accurate:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm

I'm not normally a big poll-freak, and don't normally trust them outright, but according to these numbers, only 13% of the sample blamed Bush for the problems faced by gulfcoast cities after the hurricane. I thought I'd mention it, seeing as there's a thread on this very forum asking whether the hurricane has destroyed the GOP's hopes for 2006 and 2008.. ;) Anyhow, just thought I'd throw that out there.

I just think it shows that most normal people aren't sick or twisted enough to try to use the hurricane for political gain.

Apparently, most Americans do not view the president as a god capable of summoning hurricanes.

I just think it shows that most normal people aren't sick or twisted enough to try to use the hurricane for political gain.
But what normal people are involved in politics on either side of the aisle? I think we still have time for plenty of opportunism and demagoguery.

This is terrible!!! Everyone knows that there was no hurricane, and that in reality George Bush personally ran through New Orleans and destroyed all that crap. After leveling the city, he then kicked down several levees, and then brought buckets of water into the city by hand and dumped them all over the place.

People need to remember that George Bush is the Anti-Christ and that everything that might ever go wrong anywhere is directly his fault! From the Holocaust, to Katrina, to the fact that you haven't been able to get a date in weeks, it all due to evil Bush! :sniper:

But what normal people are involved in politics on either side of the aisle? I think we still have time for plenty of opportunism and demagoguery.

Oh, I absolutely agree. But those poll results show that regular people don't approve.

After leveling the city, he then kicked down several levees, and then brought buckets of water into the city by hand and dumped them all over the place.

You win this thread.

Goes to show that people arent' as stupid as politicians believed.

I just think it shows that most normal people aren't sick or twisted enough to try to use the hurricane for political gain.

Could just be the cable news networks, I suppose. I think they waited until about 5 minutes after the storm had passed before they started in with "Who's to Blame?" and "Which Party will Come Out Ahead?" and such.

Some unexpected Gallup poll numbers suggest that post-Hurricane mudslinging hasn't left President Bush very dirty, if these numbers are accurate:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm

I'm not normally a big poll-freak, and don't normally trust them outright, but according to these numbers, only 13% of the sample blamed Bush for the problems faced by gulfcoast cities after the hurricane. I thought I'd mention it, seeing as there's a thread on this very forum asking whether the hurricane has destroyed the GOP's hopes for 2006 and 2008.. ;) Anyhow, just thought I'd throw that out there.

Well...a poll is a poll. Bush doesn't follow them so it matters little what they say about him. I think the wording of the questions is important too. "Blame President Bush for Hurricane Katrina" is a loaded question. Of course he didn't make the Hurricane happen.

And I don't really blame him completely for the aftermath. The media (both conservative and liberal) messed that up.

But for the record, he is still a complete idiot. What kind of President says "We need you support...and your cash money". Cash Money?

who cares, they both suck

and it is rare that drudge ever comes up with a gem.
but it does happen. but it is rare.

But for the record, he is still a complete idiot. What kind of President says "We need you support...and your cash money". Cash Money?
As opposed to Money Penny, who we really don't want at all. Go away, Miss Money Penny, go away and defile my synapses with your craptastical lyrics no longer.

If there's a Katrina PR war, then I hope none of the participants survive it.

Fuck the Drudge Report.

Read the statistics on Gallup's website:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=18412

EDIT: Also, they're judging just THAT poll... I don't doubt that Katrina and the resulting gas prices will knock Bush's approval rating down a few points.

If there's a Katrina PR war, then I hope none of the participants survive it.
True, it could end like the dreaded PR War of 1666 when King Habigal launched a dreaded Mustache Odor Insult against Lord Harakul. Habigal died laughing at his own joke, and Harakul was so outraged that he leaped to his feet, tripped over his own robes, and tumbled (head first) down the stairs leading to his royal throne. Terrible days that, terrible days.

Some unexpected Gallup poll numbers suggest that post-Hurricane mudslinging hasn't left President Bush very dirty, if these numbers are accurate:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm

I'm not normally a big poll-freak, and don't normally trust them outright, but according to these numbers, only 13% of the sample blamed Bush for the problems faced by gulfcoast cities after the hurricane. I thought I'd mention it, seeing as there's a thread on this very forum asking whether the hurricane has destroyed the GOP's hopes for 2006 and 2008.. ;) Anyhow, just thought I'd throw that out there.

Meh. False premise about mudslinging and a PR war.

But for the record, he is still a complete idiot. What kind of President says "We need you support...and your cash money". Cash Money?

http://sidereus.org/MONEY/images/01-large-cash-money.gif

Yo.

Fuck the Drudge Report.

Read the statistics on Gallup's website:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=18412

EDIT: Also, they're judging just THAT poll... I don't doubt that Katrina and the resulting gas prices will knock Bush's approval rating down a few points.

Same numbers. Drudge puts out the information a bit faster than the polling services release them, and emphasizes the more sensational bits, true. But faster is faster.

Meh. False premise about mudslinging and a PR war.

Not been watching the 24-hour news networks, then? I wouldn't blame you in any case.. but that's what I've been observing.. everyone trying to pass the blame on to the other guy, rumor galore, etc.

Edit: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/07/D8CFHLI01.html

about the Drudge Report...if it looks like a turd...smell like a turd... :D

Ehh... every disaster or event of negative national implications will always result in politicians of opposing viewpoints to rise out of the woodworks and strike another blow for their party. As for Bush's approval... it would take more than mudslinging politicians to drop it even lower than it is now... Bush would have to sacrifice a baby on a makeshift alter on top of the White House before that last bit of support gives way...

Same numbers. Drudge puts out the information....Drudge-Turd "forgot" to mention this :
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The ratings for Bush are highly related to party affiliation.

* By a margin of 69% to 10%, Republicans give Bush a positive rather than negative rating for his response.

* Democrats give almost a mirror opposite -- 66% negative to 10% positive.

* Independents side with the Democrats, giving a more modest margin -- 47% negative to 29% positive.

http://gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=18412

Drudge-Turd "forgot" to mention this :
_______________________________________________________
The ratings for Bush are highly related to party affiliation.

* By a margin of 69% to 10%, Republicans give Bush a positive rather than negative rating for his response.

* Democrats give almost a mirror opposite -- 66% negative to 10% positive.

* Independents side with the Democrats, giving a more modest margin -- 47% negative to 29% positive.

http://gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=18412


Nice. Good work.

Katrina was supposed to be the 9/11 for the dimocraps, but I guess something strange happened ont he way to the party: The American people don't agree with thier crap. Perhaps we should send FEMA to Oceandrive and the Cat-tribes house, because this poll is certainly a disaster for them.

Katrina was supposed to be the 9/11 for the dimocraps, but I guess something strange happened ont he way to the party: The American people don't agree with thier crap. Perhaps we should send FEMA to Oceandrive and the Cat-tribes house, because this poll is certainly a disaster for them.

Nice of you to attribute a view to me that is inaccurate.

And nice of you to ignore what the poll numbers actually said.

Drudge-Turd "forgot" to mention this :
_______________________________________________________
The ratings for Bush are highly related to party affiliation.

* By a margin of 69% to 10%, Republicans give Bush a positive rather than negative rating for his response.

* Democrats give almost a mirror opposite -- 66% negative to 10% positive.

* Independents side with the Democrats, giving a more modest margin -- 47% negative to 29% positive.

http://gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=18412

That's to be expected.. whether the negative effects were Bush's fault (or FEMA's) is one question, to which most answered "no," while Bush's "response" should rightly break along political lines, given that you're then assessing his management style more than anything.

Some unexpected Gallup poll numbers suggest that post-Hurricane mudslinging hasn't left President Bush very dirty, if these numbers are accurate:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm

I'm not normally a big poll-freak, and don't normally trust them outright, but according to these numbers, only 13% of the sample blamed Bush for the problems faced by gulfcoast cities after the hurricane. I thought I'd mention it, seeing as there's a thread on this very forum asking whether the hurricane has destroyed the GOP's hopes for 2006 and 2008.. ;) Anyhow, just thought I'd throw that out there.
Drudge Report LOL!
Trying to use the drudge report to spawn a serious discussion double LOL!

Perhaps we should send FEMA to Oceandrive...

Bring them on...I cant wait...oh god I cant wait.

And while you are at it...Bring me the Head of Drudge(Turd)-Report...on a silver platter.

early X-mas for me :D

Drudge Report LOL!
Trying to use the drudge report to spawn a serious discussion double LOL!
Drudge only links to other articles. This Drudge link is a link to another article on another website.

Try Learning how to read. LOL!

Drudge only links to other articles. This Drudge link is a link to another article on another website.

Try Learning how to read. LOL!Um... tell me something new... I repeat and maintain what I said earlier.

Um... tell me something new... I repeat and maintain what I said earlier.
No big text? :(
There is nothing more exciting than someone saying things in big text, and it also is always true. So please, keep saying LOL really big, because that is the only reason that the Intarweb was put into place in the first place.

Fuck the Drudge Report.

Read the statistics on Gallup's website:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=18412

EDIT: Also, they're judging just THAT poll... I don't doubt that Katrina and the resulting gas prices will knock Bush's approval rating down a few points.

Doubtfull since most of them said it wasn't even Bush's fault. Most said it was the state or local officials. Now I find that amazing.

Goes to show that people aren't as stupid as politicians make us to believe.

Grandstanding this is no more classy than the people who were grandstanding the opposite. Please stop - it is unbecoming.

If you can, go help - but don't ramble on about something you nor the pollsters have absolutely no first or even second hand experience with. That goes for both sides.

If you want to know what things are REALLY like after a category 4, I'll be glad to start a thread. Essentially; it's never as bad as they say, it's never as good as you hope.

You know, the only people that pay attention to most "PR wars" like these ones (the ones which are results of events beyond human control) are the people that are so die-hard for either side that they wouldn't change their mind even if God Himself told them otherwise. The smart people, the ones that don't automatically vote on party lines, don't care enough to listen to PR nonsense from either side. Mostly...

You know, the only people that pay attention to most "PR wars" like these ones (the ones which are results of events beyond human control) are the people that are so die-hard for either side that they wouldn't change their mind even if God Himself told them otherwise. The smart people, the ones that don't automatically vote on party lines, don't care enough to listen to PR nonsense from either side. Mostly...

If God told the Busheviks to vote for a Democrat, they'd either go mad or convert to another religion. :D

Apparently, most Americans do not view the president as a god capable of summoning hurricanes.
Or there is the even more proven fact that most people don't know who the head of FEMA is, much less what FEMA is.

If God told the Busheviks to vote for a Democrat, they'd either go mad or convert to another religion. :D

God would become a creation of the liberal media.

Well...a poll is a poll. Bush doesn't follow them so it matters little what they say about him. I think the wording of the questions is important too. "Blame President Bush for Hurricane Katrina" is a loaded question. Of course he didn't make the Hurricane happen.

And I don't really blame him completely for the aftermath. The media (both conservative and liberal) messed that up.

But for the record, he is still a complete idiot. What kind of President says "We need you support...and your cash money". Cash Money?

Mmm... O'Jays goodness...

Gah! Cannot... contribute that sort of music taste to Bush... gah... internal conflict... painful!

Oh wait, he probably just watched those spiffay Apprentice intro song things.

Mmmmm, O'Jay-y.

If I had been asked a few questions from that poll, I would have said I didn't think anyone was to blame for it. It was Katrina after all, that killed all those people and caused the destruction. That said, I think there was screwups galore at the local, state, and national level. The evacuation could have been handled better along with the the relief efforts.

It does appear now that things are moving in a postive direction.

I dont see why so many people complain about politicians trying to find out who is to blame for this tragedy. It is good for democracy that we criticize the people who failed. In order for democracy to work, it requires that politicians keep in mind that there are political repercussions to all of their actions. Politicians need to know that if they screw up the hurricane relief efforts, it is going to have political repercussions. It is this fear of losing votes by looking bad that makes democracy work. Personally, I would hate it if the government couldve prevented a tragedy but botched the job and no one tries to blame anyone for it. If that is how things work, what incentive would the government have to do things right? It is the fact that politicians know we will hold them to the fire if they screw up and then stop voting for them that makes democracy work and Im glad that people are asking questions about who is to blame for the botched relief operation.