NationStates Jolt Archive


Finger-pointing over Katrina continues....

Cpt_Cody
07-09-2005, 03:18
Nagin>> I got promises too. I can't stand any more promises. I don't want to hear any more promises. I want to see stuff done. That's why I'm so happy the president came down here because I think they were feeding him a line of bull also. They were telling him things weren’t as bad as it was, he came down and saw it and he put a general on the field. His name is general Honore. When he hit the field, we started to see action. What the state was doing, I don't friggin' know but I tell you, I am pissed. It wasn't adequate. The president and the governor sat down. Air force one, I said, Mr. President, Madam governor, you two have to get in sync. If you don't get in sync, more people are going to die.

O’Brien>> What date was this?

N>> I don't know.

O>> When did you say that?

N>> Whenever air force one was here.

O>> Okay.

N>> And this is after I called him on the telephone two days earlier. And I said, Mr. President, madam governor, you two need to get together on the same page because the lack of coordination people are dying in my city.

That's two days ago? Easement I don't know the exact date. They both shook their head, said yeah. I said great. I said everybody in this room is getting ready to leave. There was senators and his cabinet people, you name it, they were there. Generals. I said everybody right now, we're leaving. These two people need to sit in a room together and make a doggone decision right now.

O>> Was that done?

N>> The president looked at me. I think he was a little surprised. He said, no, you guys stay here. We're going to another section of the plane and we're going to make a decision. He called me in that office after that and he said, Mr. Mayor, I offered two options to the governor. I said -- I don't remember exactly what -- two options. I was ready to move today. The governor said she needed 24 hours to make a decision.

O>> You told me the president told you the governor said she needed 24 hours to make a decision?

N>> Yes.

O>> Regarding what? Bringing troops?

N>> Whatever they had discussed. As far as what the -- I was advocating a clear chain of command. So that we could get resources flowing in the right places.

O>> The governor said no?

N>> She said she needed 24 hours to make a decision. It would have been great if we could of left air force one, walked outside, and told the world that we had this all worked out. It didn't happen. And more people died.

:headbang: Please tell me what idiots voted in this woman, that she needed 24 hours in order to make a decision about a hurricane?

Though I still hold Nagin and Bush responsible, this woman's just fucking incompetent.
Gymoor II The Return
07-09-2005, 03:25
:headbang: Please tell me what idiots voted in this woman, that she needed 24 hours in order to make a decision about a hurricane?

Though I still hold Nagin and Bush responsible, this woman's just fucking incompetent.

Yeah, nice job pointing fingers while you are complaining about pointing fingers. Anyway, apparently what was discussed that the Gov needed 24 hours to think about was her giving up command of the Nat'l Guard. While this might have streamlined things, it also means that the Nat'l Guard would have lost it's legal authority to act as peace officers.

So, yeah, great job pointing fingers without a grasp of the facts.
The Nazz
07-09-2005, 03:30
You couldn't have added this to one of the five thousand other threads on this subject? You had to start a new thread with this kind of garbage?
Lotus Puppy
07-09-2005, 03:42
I believe that the institutions created long before they were born were more responsible than they (see my thread).
[NS]Antre_Travarious
07-09-2005, 03:44
Anyway, apparently what was discussed that the Gov needed 24 hours to think about was her giving up command of the Nat'l Guard.

So, yeah, great job pointing fingers without a grasp of the facts.
Tha tis not what was being discussed. They were discussing her deploying them at all.

Nice try though. Try an get a grasp of the facts.
Selgin
07-09-2005, 04:06
I think this article from the BBC is one of the most complete and balanced views I have yet seen on the subject:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4216508.stm
Rotovia-
07-09-2005, 04:12
With all respect the Mayor sounds like he's talking out his ass. I've said it before and I'll say it again, one organization can be solely blamed without question and that's FEMA. They excist purely to prevent this kind of juristiction wankfest that costs lives.
[NS]Antre_Travarious
07-09-2005, 04:32
With all respect the Mayor sounds like he's talking out his ass.
That is what I got out of the transcript, too. The video is even better, with him stammering and "recolecting".