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Foreplay: A waste of time before the main event?

Or

Much fun to be had on the way to the party?

I like it, I think it is the latter.

Foreplay IS the party man. It's like the part of the party you're not drunk yet, but you are having a great time.

Foreplay: A waste of time before the main event?

Or

Much fun to be had on the way to the party?

I like it, I think it is the latter.

My idea of foreplay is buying them a bag of chips and a half of cider :)

seriously though, the latter, always.

I wonder how long before Armandian Cheese is here? ;)

I like to terrify my prey before I catch and eat it. Oh wait… that sort of foreplay. :eek:
*backs off slowly, then runs once out of sight*

I wonder how long before Armandian Cheese is here? ;)

I like to terrify my prey before I catch and eat it. Oh wait… that sort of foreplay. :eek:
*backs off slowly, then runs once out of sight*

*Follows Liskeinland hopefully*

Foreplay IS the party man. It's like the part of the party you're not drunk yet, but you are having a great time.

Couldn't have put it better if I tried.

*Follows Liskeinland hopefully* Are you hoping to get fed or something?

Going to bed (no foreplay). Bye bye people.

Foreplay = important. Makes the ending much better, if nothing else.

foreplay is like the chocolate in a reeses peanut butter cup. you have to pass the chocolate before you can get to the peanut butter...

Foreplay: A waste of time before the main event?
Blasphemy! :eek:

Blasphemy! :eek:


I didn't say it...I was saying some people see it that way....

I like to get the party started slowly...then work the way up to the cake...then have my cake and eat it too...

I think I lost myself in my own metaphor... :confused:

Necessary. Though my boyfriend often disagrees, damn him. He doesn't understand the value of... non-penetrative activities.

Are you hoping to get fed or something?

Going to bed (no foreplay). Bye bye people.

Wow lisk...for a celibate person you sure get a LOT of offers...

Foreplay is an important lead-up to the main event; it can in fact facilitate it, depending on the relative size descrepancy of the particpants.

Foreplay is an absolute necessity, in my book. For me, sex is much, much better if the woman enjoys it too. And most women don't enjoy it if a man simply blunders full speed ahead into the main event. The extra stimulation from foreplay is usually necessary for a woman to experience orgasm.

So, guys, refine your foreplay techniques. Hell, ask for feedback - women love that. It'll improve your sex life in all kinds of ways. For one thing, you'll probably get more of it - women are more likely to want a replay if they've had a good time the first time. Also, a female orgasm is a pretty damned impressive thing to see (if you've never seen one, you're definitely doing something wrong.) And the woman is likely to heap lots of praise on you afterwards, which is great for the ego.

:p

Wait, some people have to consciously plan foreplay? It's always happened all by itself for the various folks I've been with unless time is of the essence. About the only time we have to put some thinking into the logistical side of foreplay is when the gameplan has somthing a bit more involved that needs a bit of advance planning.

Wow lisk...for a celibate person you sure get a LOT of offers... Well, you know the saying about playing hard to get… ;) actually I get no offers, but I don't really actively try to get offers.

Well, you know the saying about playing hard to get… ;) actually I get no offers, but I don't really actively try to get offers.

I know you don't actively go for offers. But they do seem to find you irresistible kid.

Foreplay = important. Makes the ending much better, if nothing else.

I had a feeling you'd be popping up in this thread sooner or later...but you are right. It does make the endgame much more enjoyable. ;)

I know you don't actively go for offers. But they do seem to find you irresistible kid.



I had a feeling you'd be popping up in this thread sooner or later...but you are right. It does make the endgame much more enjoyable. ;) It makes the end game of most things enjoyable. That's using "foreplay" in a very broad meaning, but you get the idea. Like videogames where you cut down hundreds of aliens before meeting the Queen. *apologises for bad simile*

Oh yes, and… don't call me kid. I've got a suit, damn you!

foreplay is the only way to reliably GET to the main event. if you skip the "frills" it wont be long before no self respecting woman will bother to have sex with you.

Foreplay and the Snuggling at the end are the best parts, the middle bits are so tireing.

"Oooofh my Back...."

"cant catch ma breath"

"Hold ona sec, might Cu*"

"That doesn't quite work now does it?"

"Get the Doorbell hun..."

Rich

It makes the end game of most things enjoyable. That's using "foreplay" in a very broad meaning, but you get the idea. Like videogames where you cut down hundreds of aliens before meeting the Queen. *apologises for bad simile*

Oh yes, and… don't call me kid. I've got a suit, damn you!

I have 4 suits. And a beard. And yet, some of my oldest, dearest friends still refer to me as "The Boy". Believe me, it was intended to be insulting.

I have 4 suits. And a beard. And yet, some of my oldest, dearest friends still refer to me as "The Boy". Believe me, it was intended to be insulting. Insult! :(
Is it a nice thick beard, or a scraggy hippy beard? If it's the latter, it won't help you look older, boy.

The latter, methinks.

No one's gone for getting it over as quickly as possible yet?
Fair 'nough.

true...apparently this is unequivocally a pro-foreplay group of people!

right on...

I have a goatee...not scraggily though...

Foreplay is an absolute necessity, in my book. For me, sex is much, much better if the woman enjoys it too. And most women don't enjoy it if a man simply blunders full speed ahead into the main event. The extra stimulation from foreplay is usually necessary for a woman to experience orgasm.

So, guys, refine your foreplay techniques. Hell, ask for feedback - women love that. It'll improve your sex life in all kinds of ways. For one thing, you'll probably get more of it - women are more likely to want a replay if they've had a good time the first time. Also, a female orgasm is a pretty damned impressive thing to see (if you've never seen one, you're definitely doing something wrong.) And the woman is likely to heap lots of praise on you afterwards, which is great for the ego.

:p

Every Woman is multi orgasmic, but not every woman has been shown that she is. If you are the one to teach her, look out. Foreplay is the best way to teach her this.

My last girlfriend for some reason didn't care for foreplay, and was always trying to rush me to the main event. She still got her 3 to 1 so it was ok.

Every Woman is multi orgasmic, but not every woman has been shown that she is. If you are the one to teach her, look out. Foreplay is the best way to teach her this.

My last girlfriend for some reason didn't care for foreplay, and was always trying to rush me to the main event. She still got her 3 to 1 so it was ok.

Didn't care for foreplay? That must be a rare women indeed.

Unfortunately, we now know that female orgasms are mostly faked. :rolleyes: :(

Unfortunately, we now know that female orgasms are mostly faked. :rolleyes: :(

There is an ummm...internal difference that when engaged in the act allows you to tell the difference. I'll leave it at that. When it's real you know. When it's fake...ditto. ;)

There is an ummm...internal difference that when engaged in the act allows you to tell the difference. I'll leave it at that. When it's real you know. When it's fake...ditto. ;) No you don't know, not if you know beforehand what the difference is. If you blindfolded me and got a wasp or a bee to sting me, I probably wouldn't know which it was, because I've never been stung by either before, so I have nothing to compare with.

Therefore we're all doomed to low self-esteem and anxiety. Such is man's lot.

Without foreplay, the act of intercourse becomes mechanical and dry. Foreplay adds to the anticipation and increases pleasure for all parties involved.

No you don't know, not if you know beforehand what the difference is. If you blindfolded me and got a wasp or a bee to sting me, I probably wouldn't know which it was, because I've never been stung by either before, so I have nothing to compare with.

Therefore we're all doomed to low self-esteem and anxiety. Such is man's lot.
I'll help you out there then.

Here are some signs, that are near impossible to fake, that a woman is having or very near having an orgasm.

1. She looks stoned. Pupils dialated, slightly glassy look to the eyes.
2. Body flush. If the lights are on, or dim, it will start about the center of her stomache and quickly spread over the rest of her body.
3. Muscle spasms. Usually in the genitals and surrounding areas. Ususally a fluttering much faster than can normally be controlled.
4. An increase in lubrication. Pretty self explainitory.

These are not universal, but are very common. If you find a woman who can fake all of these signs, she deserves to be in hollywood.

I'll help you out there then.

Here are some signs, that are near impossible to fake, that a woman is having or very near having an orgasm.

1. She looks stoned. Pupils dialated, slightly glassy look to the eyes.
2. Body flush. If the lights are on, or dim, it will start about the center of her stomache and quickly spread over the rest of her body.
3. Muscle spasms. Usually in the genitals and surrounding areas. Ususally a fluttering much faster than can normally be controlled.
4. An increase in lubrication. Pretty self explainitory.

These are not universal, but are very common. If you find a woman who can fake all of these signs, she deserves to be in hollywood. So, pretty much what happens to people just before they turn into zombies (possibly bar the last). Me scared.

Definate yes on the foreplay... Though some guys do need to learn what exactly it is.. it's not just the "feeling up" stuff.. I starts with the kissing. If you're not a good kisser, FORGET IT. :fluffle:

Oh and GOLDDIRK, you forgot one of the WORST things on your "middle" list:

*Hold on babe, Gotta get the phone - it's work (or mom).

They're both mood killers. (Do you really want the girl/guy to get the image of your boss or parents in their mind when you're about to?!? Ya that's what I thought. EEWW...)

~Rose

Unfortunately, we now know that female orgasms are mostly faked. :rolleyes: :(

If you catch a woman faking, call her on it. The look on thier face is priceless. :eek:

So, pretty much what happens to people just before they turn into zombies (possibly bar the last). Me scared.

Add the moaning, groaning, and screaming, and your pretty close. lol

Gun toting civilians
If you catch a woman faking, call her on it. The look on thier face is priceless.

Maybe so, but seriously, after a while, if the guy's just not doing it for ya - either he doesn't know how or whatever, sometimes it's just easier to fake, let him think you're happy, and be done with it. I really HATE when it gets to the point of repetition as a matter of macho pride - that "Oh I promise I can do better.. make you enjoy it more" or whatever. I've encountered plenty of guys whom while are fine to confront about faking, can't deal with the fact that it's just NOT gonna happen.

Add the moaning, groaning, and screaming, and your pretty close. lol If they're moaning, groaning and screaming, you're either doing everything right or horribly wrong.

Maybe so, but seriously, after a while, if the guy's just not doing it for ya - either he doesn't know how or whatever, sometimes it's just easier to fake, let him think you're happy, and be done with it. I really HATE when it gets to the point of repetition as a matter of macho pride - that "Oh I promise I can do better.. make you enjoy it more" or whatever. I've encountered plenty of guys whom while are fine to confront about faking, can't deal with the fact that it's just NOT gonna happen.

I met several women who were in your position. It had never happened and they had basicly given up on any hope of ever having an orgasm (one woman was in her mid 30's).

I encourage women to let me know what they like. I take instructions very well, and have the attitude that the better it is for her, the better it will be later for me. But I've been told that I'm a very rare man.

foreplay is like the chocolate in a reeses peanut butter cup. you have to pass the chocolate before you can get to the peanut butter...

HAHAHAHAHAHA perfect way to describe it!

my opinion: only thing that tops foreplay is the gasm, and if you do foreplay right the gasm WILL be soooooo much better

Foreplay is an absolute necessity, in my book. For me, sex is much, much better if the woman enjoys it too. And most women don't enjoy it if a man simply blunders full speed ahead into the main event. The extra stimulation from foreplay is usually necessary for a woman to experience orgasm.

So, guys, refine your foreplay techniques. Hell, ask for feedback - women love that. It'll improve your sex life in all kinds of ways. For one thing, you'll probably get more of it - women are more likely to want a replay if they've had a good time the first time. Also, a female orgasm is a pretty damned impressive thing to see (if you've never seen one, you're definitely doing something wrong.) And the woman is likely to heap lots of praise on you afterwards, which is great for the ego.

:p


hahaha this man knows what hes talkin about! write a newsletter so i can subscribe to it man :D so long as you have many other ideas in many other areas :D

but seriously, he's right on the money

Foreplay and the Snuggling at the end are the best parts, the middle bits are so tireing.

"Oooofh my Back...."

"cant catch ma breath"

"Hold ona sec, might Cu*"

"That doesn't quite work now does it?"

"Get the Doorbell hun..."

Rich

LMFAO! thats hilarious man

I've had them before (plenty of experience)...That's not the problem.

I think yes, foreplay is important. The issue with foreplay is that at some point, many males kick into the "I'm gonna get" attitude, females get lost during the male enjoyment part of it and forgets that there's 2 parties. At some point, the respective male feels bad so tries to prove that they can be successful. I think it's the trying to prove themselves thing that really just bugs me - Look, lets face it and be brutally honest - sometimes guys don't, sometimes girls don't - but it's still fun even if you don't reach climax. It may not happen every time. There's alot of guys out there whom can't deal with that fact and try to "prove their worth" when they don't really need to - and would get additional chances (so to speak) to make a woman's head explode. Hense why women fake - they just get sick of the "little engine that could" syndrome.

Regardless, the better the foreplay, the happier those involved will be.

It would seem that for the most part, only those who are out for themselves think that foreplay is bad.

It would seem that for the most part, only those who are out for themselves think that foreplay is bad.

Which is not to rule out the occasional quickie. Quickies can be good, but usually it's a one person deal.

I don’t believe in sex or any relations I think they interfere with work efficiency that’s why god invented porn just get rid of that basic human instinct and you can work much longer { yes I love money more then any thing so I make it a point to work 80 hours a week money talks and bs walks}

I had a feeling you'd be popping up in this thread sooner or later...but you are right. It does make the endgame much more enjoyable. ;)

Am I really so predictable?


Unfortunately, we now know that female orgasms are mostly faked. :rolleyes: :(

What? ... I don't know anyone who's ever had to fake it!


No you don't know, not if you know beforehand what the difference is. If you blindfolded me and got a wasp or a bee to sting me, I probably wouldn't know which it was, because I've never been stung by either before, so I have nothing to compare with.

Therefore we're all doomed to low self-esteem and anxiety. Such is man's lot.

... Okay. You are obviously getting some very crappy sex ed. There are things that the internal muscles do during orgasm that you CANNOT fake no matter how hard you try. Before I'd ever had an orgasm, I used to have this thing that I thought was an orgasm (Still not sure what it was, but I suspect it was me really WANTING an orgasm and subconsciously faking it.) I thought it was the real thing. The day I had my first, my then-boyfriend looked up at me, grinned, and said "That was the real thing, wasn't it?" ... I blustered on for a while, and took me a few weeks after that to realise that I'd been faking the first ones ... he knew right away.

In the vast majority of cases I think it is sine qua non.

I don’t believe in sex or any relations I think they interfere with work efficiency that’s why god invented porn just get rid of that basic human instinct and you can work much longer { yes I love money more then any thing so I make it a point to work 80 hours a week money talks and bs walks}

God invented porn?

That could almost make me become religious...

I don’t believe in sex or any relations I think they interfere with work efficiency that’s why god invented porn just get rid of that basic human instinct and you can work much longer { yes I love money more then any thing so I make it a point to work 80 hours a week money talks and bs walks}

Where i come from, bullshit walks and money walks too. We don't measure a person's worth in dollars.

Am I really so predictable?

Not entirely predictable...not entirely unpredictable.

... Okay. You are obviously getting some very crappy sex ed. There are things that the internal muscles do during orgasm that you CANNOT fake no matter how hard you try. Before I'd ever had an orgasm, I used to have this thing that I thought was an orgasm (Still not sure what it was, but I suspect it was me really WANTING an orgasm and subconsciously faking it.) I thought it was the real thing. The day I had my first, my then-boyfriend looked up at me, grinned, and said "That was the real thing, wasn't it?" ... I blustered on for a while, and took me a few weeks after that to realise that I'd been faking the first ones ... he knew right away.

This was also true of my first girlfriend. I figured she had been faking biut when she had a real one it was so obvious that initially it scared the shit out of me. And that's how I learned to tell the difference.

She actually cried because she was so happy having never known the difference between wanting to and having one.

What? ... I don't know anyone who's ever had to fake it!




... Okay. You are obviously getting some very crappy sex ed. There are things that the internal muscles do during orgasm that you CANNOT fake no matter how hard you try. Before I'd ever had an orgasm, I used to have this thing that I thought was an orgasm (Still not sure what it was, but I suspect it was me really WANTING an orgasm and subconsciously faking it.) I thought it was the real thing. The day I had my first, my then-boyfriend looked up at me, grinned, and said "That was the real thing, wasn't it?" ... I blustered on for a while, and took me a few weeks after that to realise that I'd been faking the first ones ... he knew right away. Our sex education was basically concerned with contraception, not actual sex. We didn't learn about creamy soft internal ecstasy.

I don’t believe in sex or any relations I think they interfere with work efficiency that’s why god invented porn just get rid of that basic human instinct and you can work much longer { yes I love money more then any thing so I make it a point to work 80 hours a week money talks and bs walks} I don't know about you, but I don't do my work at night… not unless I've been REALLY disorganised. Nor does half an hour of my time have much of an impact on my work.

I don't know about you, but I don't do my work at night… not unless I've been REALLY disorganised. Nor does half an hour of my time have much of an impact on my work.

Half an hour isn't very long. Maybe that is the problem.

Half an hour isn't very long. Maybe that is the problem. Eh? Whose problem, mine or his? Are you suggesting I don't work hard? :)

Necessary. Though my boyfriend often disagrees, damn him. He doesn't understand the value of... non-penetrative activities.


That's very easy to fix hon. Simply explain that you are an "all or nothing" type person - you either get foreplay or you don't play at all :)

Lucky me, my hubby loves it - I get about a 5 to 1 ratio of foreplay vs. main event :D

Eh? Whose problem, mine or his? Are you suggesting I don't work hard? :)

Wait a minute...do you work? Aren't you in high school? I'm confused. :confused:

Wait a minute...do you work? Aren't you in high school? I'm confused. :confused: I am indeed in secondary school, and I do homework. Which I'd better go and do now. Bye bye, will post soon. :)

That's very easy to fix hon. Simply explain that you are an "all or nothing" type person - you either get foreplay or you don't play at all :)

Lucky me, my hubby loves it - I get about a 5 to 1 ratio of foreplay vs. main event :D

Does that mean that 1 out of every five times he doesn't do foreplay, or that he does 5 different foreplay type things prior to the main event?

Does that mean that 1 out of every five times he doesn't do foreplay, or that he does 5 different foreplay type things prior to the main event?

I was referring to amount of time spent on each lol
Usually about 1.25hours of foreplay to 15mins of main event.
And before you comment on the 15mins, keep in mind we've been married 17yrs., have 3 teenagers and are 40yrs old - trust me, sleep becomes important ;)

That's very easy to fix hon. Simply explain that you are an "all or nothing" type person - you either get foreplay or you don't play at all :)

Lucky me, my hubby loves it - I get about a 5 to 1 ratio of foreplay vs. main event :DI was referring to amount of time spent on each lol
Usually about 1.25hours of foreplay to 15mins of main even

I do my best to give whoever I'm with a 3 to 1 ratio. She has at least 3 orgasms for ever one of mine. Sometimes that takes while, and other times its less then 15 min.

I do my best to give whoever I'm with a 3 to 1 ratio. She has at least 3 orgasms for ever one of mine. Sometimes that takes while, and other times its less then 15 min.


Sounds pretty reasonable - and yes, the times vary with us too.
Can get a bit difficult to count though as there are times when I seem to be in constant "O" for 5 to 10 mins and am not sure if I'm having several in a row or one continuous one. What a wonderful "problem" to have LOL :D

Sounds pretty reasonable - and yes, the times vary with us too.
Can get a bit difficult to count though as there are times when I seem to be in constant "O" for 5 to 10 mins and am not sure if I'm having several in a row or one continuous one. What a wonderful "problem" to have LOL :D

Yes, I'm jelous. Of course if that was the case with men, we'd either sleep for a week afterword or jsut die. But what a way to go.

I do my best to give whoever I'm with a 3 to 1 ratio. She has at least 3 orgasms for ever one of mine. Sometimes that takes while, and other times its less then 15 min.

That's the ratio I work with.

That's the ratio I work with. :eek: Inequality!

:eek: Inequality!

Not really...it works out since less then half of the men in the world give a woman an orgasm. Most don't care. I'm just trying to bring the numbers up :)

Not really...it works out since less then half of the men in the world give a woman an orgasm. Most don't care. I'm just trying to bring the numbers up :)

I look at it a little different. Most have not had a man bring them to orgasm, but if you are the one who does, and you make it happen more than once, they will be coming back for a repeat for a while, and telling all thier friends about it.

Women are much more vulgar than men.
Man conversation:
Guy 1: Get Laid last night?
Guy 2: oh, hell ya
Guy 1: sweet, me too.

Woman converation:
girl 1: How did it go last night?
girl 2: Oh it was so amazing!
girl 1: Really? Tell me all about it.
girl 2: Ok, well the night started out...(proceeds to give a stroke by stroke replay of the entire night)

You know, I have a question to pose to all the men of the forum out there. I have been with a few (emphasis on few) men, and the one who i am currently with (and am going to marry in a month) loves the forplay and the main event as well. His philosphy-- to ummm...make my toes curl as many times as possible. There are numerous times where, even after a half-an-hour or so of the main event- he still, ummm....his toes still don't curl (tryign to say this all without getting warned by a mod :) ) But, he says that its ok, b/c I got all i needed out of it....

So, here is my question? Do you, as men, still enjoy it? Enjoy it as much? Is my guy just weird (not that I am complaining or would trade him for all the tea in China), or is this a general consensus among the men?????

You know, I have a question to pose to all the men of the forum out there. I have been with a few (emphasis on few) men, and the one who i am currently with (and am going to marry in a month) loves the forplay and the main event as well. His philosphy-- to ummm...make my toes curl as many times as possible. There are numerous times where, even after a half-an-hour or so of the main event- he still, ummm....his toes still don't curl (tryign to say this all without getting warned by a mod :) ) But, he says that its ok, b/c I got all i needed out of it....

So, here is my question? Do you, as men, still enjoy it? Enjoy it as much? Is my guy just weird (not that I am complaining or would trade him for all the tea in China), or is this a general consensus among the men?????

Well, i agree with your mans philosphy, but I have been told that I'm a rare man. I've been there before, not very often but it does happen. Its much more common for it to be the other way around. Usually if its not going to happen for me, its because I'm really stressed, have just gotten over beening very sick, or have been very drunk. But as long as he's happy I wouldn't worry about it too much.

You know, I have a question to pose to all the men of the forum out there. I have been with a few (emphasis on few) men, and the one who i am currently with (and am going to marry in a month) loves the forplay and the main event as well. His philosphy-- to ummm...make my toes curl as many times as possible. There are numerous times where, even after a half-an-hour or so of the main event- he still, ummm....his toes still don't curl (tryign to say this all without getting warned by a mod :) ) But, he says that its ok, b/c I got all i needed out of it....

So, here is my question? Do you, as men, still enjoy it? Enjoy it as much? Is my guy just weird (not that I am complaining or would trade him for all the tea in China), or is this a general consensus among the men?????

I enjoy it as much because when done right foreplay is a 2 way street (or three way if you're lucky(just kidding)). However, sometimes after alot of foreplay it takes me a while during the main event too. I think it also depends on how much sex you've been having...the more you have the longer it takes.

There was recently a survey in Europe as to how long men take. I was surprised, some take AGES., 40 minutes or so.

There was recently a survey in Europe as to how long men take. I was surprised, some take AGES., 40 minutes or so.

40 minutes sounds about right if you are regularly active...

40 minutes sounds about right if you are regularly active...


i agree-- all though it also depends though on the time of day (morning quickies vs. looonnnggg afternoons) the amount of alcohol involved and a few other things- but for the most part- yeh......at least, from what i have observed--

Every Woman is multi orgasmic, but not every woman has been shown that she is. If you are the one to teach her, look out. Foreplay is the best way to teach her this.

Every woman's anatomy is very different when it comes to sex and every woman requires different stimulation to achieve an orgasm. Most woman aren't even orgasmic until 20+. And it has little to do with the quality of their partners. Some will only experience orgasm via oral, some only penetration etc... some can and some can't have a g-spot orgasm and very few women are multi-orgasmic. IE, Women are simply all over the board when it comes to sex.

40 minutes sounds about right if you are regularly active... "Honey, I'm getting bored…"

"Honey, I'm getting bored…"

Never heard that one before...

Never heard that one before... After 38 minutes…

:eek: kID OPENS DOOR TO FIND PARENTS "WRESTLING" ON THE MATRESS

Foreplay IS the party man. It's like the part of the party you're not drunk yet, but you are having a great time.

Right you are. You can tell a lot about someone by what their take on foreplay is. It's like the difference between wolfing down food and savouring every bite. And there's no question it makes your woman happier.

This was also true of my first girlfriend. I figured she had been faking biut when she had a real one it was so obvious that initially it scared the shit out of me. And that's how I learned to tell the difference.

She actually cried because she was so happy having never known the difference between wanting to and having one.


... Jay ... is that you? ;)

Our sex education was basically concerned with contraception, not actual sex. We didn't learn about creamy soft internal ecstasy.

I had rather meant sex ed. from friends. School sex ed. is rather pointless and useless. Unless I am teaching it.

I taught grade 8s sex ed. as a peer counselling project. There was a group of us, and it was all games and stuff. Except then I wasn't allowed to speak in front of the kids any more. Apparently they don't advise using the term "wild kinky monkey sex whilst hanging from a chandelier" in front of a bunch of goggle-eyed 13 year olds. Oops?

I taught grade 8s sex ed. as a peer counselling project. There was a group of us, and it was all games and stuff. Except then I wasn't allowed to speak in front of the kids any more. Apparently they don't advise using the term "wild kinky monkey sex whilst hanging from a chandelier" in front of a bunch of goggle-eyed 13 year olds. Oops?
Where were you when I was in schoolkid oh so many years ago?

I'll help you out there then.

Here are some signs, that are near impossible to fake, that a woman is having or very near having an orgasm.

1. She looks stoned. Pupils dialated, slightly glassy look to the eyes.
2. Body flush. If the lights are on, or dim, it will start about the center of her stomache and quickly spread over the rest of her body.
3. Muscle spasms. Usually in the genitals and surrounding areas. Ususally a fluttering much faster than can normally be controlled.
4. An increase in lubrication. Pretty self explainitory.

These are not universal, but are very common. If you find a woman who can fake all of these signs, she deserves to be in hollywood.
Doing what in Hollywood exactly?

You know, I have a question to pose to all the men of the forum out there. I have been with a few (emphasis on few) men, and the one who i am currently with (and am going to marry in a month) loves the forplay and the main event as well. His philosphy-- to ummm...make my toes curl as many times as possible. There are numerous times where, even after a half-an-hour or so of the main event- he still, ummm....his toes still don't curl (tryign to say this all without getting warned by a mod :) ) But, he says that its ok, b/c I got all i needed out of it....

So, here is my question? Do you, as men, still enjoy it? Enjoy it as much? Is my guy just weird (not that I am complaining or would trade him for all the tea in China), or is this a general consensus among the men?????

About once a month, I wind up telling my wife, "Well, I'm not 18 any more, you know." I always say it with a big grin on my face, though.

It's something that happens sometimes to all of us. Most of us are able to deal with the fact that we don't always get there. That doesn't mean we don't enjoy the journey, though. Sometimes it's nice just to take the slow, scenic route and not worry too much about the destination. ;)

Sounds to me like your guy is pretty well-adjusted about it - it doesn't seem to crush his ego. And if it's just an occasional thing, it's probably not anything to worry about. (However, if it's a problem all of the time, it might be something he wants to discuss with a doctor.)

:p

... Jay ... is that you? ;)

Umm...no...I'm not Jay...

About once a month, I wind up telling my wife, "Well, I'm not 18 any more, you know." I always say it with a big grin on my face, though.

It's something that happens sometimes to all of us. Most of us are able to deal with the fact that we don't always get there. That doesn't mean we don't enjoy the journey, though. Sometimes it's nice just to take the slow, scenic route and not worry too much about the destination. ;)

Sounds to me like your guy is pretty well-adjusted about it - it doesn't seem to crush his ego. And if it's just an occasional thing, it's probably not anything to worry about. (However, if it's a problem all of the time, it might be something he wants to discuss with a doctor.)

:p


I think it is the same for women as men. Sometimes as much as you want to the big "O" won't happen, regardless of sex. And on those days...you just enjoy the ride...or the wild sex involved in trying to get there...until you are so tired you give up, but you are happy.

Granted, as a younger man, 3 or 4 times a night with everyone happy everytime was not unusual.

Foreplay IS the party man. It's like the part of the party you're not drunk yet, but you are having a great time.

I would say foreplay is like starting the party slowly with a few bottles of champagne as opposed to drinking a bottle of vodka in a few minutes.

Doing what in Hollywood exactly?

If she can fake all the signs that I listed believeably, getting someone to believe that she is her the person that shes playing on screen shouldn't be a problem.

Or I could take the low road and call her the next Jenna Jamasen.

If she can fake all the signs that I listed believeably, getting someone to believe that she is her the person that shes playing on screen shouldn't be a problem.

Or I could take the low road and call her the next Jenna Jamasen.

If you are sleeping with the next Jenna Jameson I applaud you. :D

Ever spend an entire day on foreplay?

Like little kisses and grabs and things all day until the night comes and it's time for the real deal?

Ever spend an entire day on foreplay?

Like little kisses and grabs and things all day until the night comes and it's time for the real deal?


yup, done that. its even better if you are somewhere that you both have to be and can't get away, esp. if there are other people around-- then you have to "hide" it :fluffle: ;) :) :) :)

About once a month, I wind up telling my wife, "Well, I'm not 18 any more, you know." I always say it with a big grin on my face, though.

It's something that happens sometimes to all of us. Most of us are able to deal with the fact that we don't always get there. That doesn't mean we don't enjoy the journey, though. Sometimes it's nice just to take the slow, scenic route and not worry too much about the destination. ;)

Sounds to me like your guy is pretty well-adjusted about it - it doesn't seem to crush his ego. And if it's just an occasional thing, it's probably not anything to worry about. (However, if it's a problem all of the time, it might be something he wants to discuss with a doctor.)

:p
oh yeah, he doesn't mind, happens only occasionally-- i just feel guilty about it sometimes-- if that makes any sense at all!!! as for the ego thing, well, he never has a problem with that-- he says its an ego boost knowing that he has gotten me off so many times :D

Oh, and there was I expecting a conversation about golf ;)

Seriously, I'm a self-confessed fondler.

Foreplay is an important lead-up to the main event; it can in fact facilitate it, depending on the relative size descrepancy of the particpants.

HAR HAR HAR!

Oh, and there was I expecting a conversation about golf ;)

Seriously, I'm a self-confessed fondler.

self-confessed fondler of self or others?

What is this foreplay you speak of? I don't believe or endorse any non-penetrative activities.
My junk= #1
any other orifice= #2
That's the priority.

What is this foreplay you speak of? I don't believe or endorse any non-penetrative activities.
My junk= #1
any other orifice= #2
That's the priority.

The first person to say the aren't into foreplay. Welcome to the discussion.

Now the question is why?

The first person to say the aren't into foreplay. Welcome to the discussion.

Now the question is why?I think it's a waste of time. It's all about me. But then again, I guess I've never had a partner I actually cared enough about to actually go into foreplay. But other than that, It's like taking a road trip, she might want the scenic route, but I want to get to my destination via the quickest route.

I think it's a waste of time. It's all about me. But then again, I guess I've never had a partner I actually cared enough about to actually go into foreplay. But other than that, It's like taking a road trip, she might want the scenic route, but I want to get to my destination via the quickest route. Wowee. I know not what to say to this.

Foreplay is an absolute necessity, in my book. For me, sex is much, much better if the woman enjoys it too. And most women don't enjoy it if a man simply blunders full speed ahead into the main event. The extra stimulation from foreplay is usually necessary for a woman to experience orgasm.

So, guys, refine your foreplay techniques. Hell, ask for feedback - women love that. It'll improve your sex life in all kinds of ways. For one thing, you'll probably get more of it - women are more likely to want a replay if they've had a good time the first time. Also, a female orgasm is a pretty damned impressive thing to see (if you've never seen one, you're definitely doing something wrong.) And the woman is likely to heap lots of praise on you afterwards, which is great for the ego.

:p

as a female, i agree to all of the above statements..

self-confessed fondler of self or others?

Not fussed ;)

If she can fake all the signs that I listed believeably, getting someone to believe that she is her the person that shes playing on screen shouldn't be a problem.

Or I could take the low road and call her the next Jenna Jamasen.
Yeah... its just my thing is, what film gets close enough to the action that you can tell if the actress is having vaginal muscle spasms?