NationStates Jolt Archive


Would you vote for me?

The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 18:16
If I was running for the post as leader of your country, would you vote for me based on my profile. Assume the opposition is the leader of your country. Please state your country.

My profile:

Egalitarian.
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics.
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record.
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers.
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime.
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started.
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16.

Anything I missed, please ask me and I'll try to answer.
Carops
05-09-2005, 18:17
If I was running for the post as leader of your country, would you vote for me based on my profile. Assume the opposition is the leader of your country. Please state your country.

My profile:

Egalitarian.
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics.
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record.
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers.
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime.
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started.

Anything I missed, please ask me and I'll try to answer.

No sorry. But have a cookie anyway.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 18:19
No sorry. But have a cookie anyway.

Thanks for the cookie.

*Eats the cookie. Mumbles something about "Kill Carops"* :)
Undelia
05-09-2005, 18:20
Nope. I’ll be voting Libertarian, no matter how crazy or not on the ballot it is! :D
Tograna
05-09-2005, 18:21
firearms? nah.... rest seems ok.
Monotonous
05-09-2005, 18:22
I suppose I would. Now, *ahem*, about that bribe...
The blessed Chris
05-09-2005, 18:27
Frankly, I'd vote for anybody, omitting Bush, over Tony Blair, have a vote.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 18:29
I suppose I would. Now, *ahem*, about that bribe...

It should arrive some time between now and 2335. Probably later, mind.
Carops
05-09-2005, 18:30
Thanks for the cookie.

*Eats the cookie. Mumbles something about "Kill Carops"* :)

If I vote for you, I suppose I'd at least get a gun to defend myself ... *thinks*
Calmly Angry People
05-09-2005, 18:31
I probly would, bit ify on the iraq thing though
Monotonous
05-09-2005, 18:36
It should arrive some time between now and 2335. Probably later, mind.
*waits patiently by the door*
It's been a few minutes now. Where's mah money?
Tinkie-Winkie Popo
05-09-2005, 18:38
I also go with the Libertarian vote

But, you are better than Bush or Blair......
The Jam Doughnut
05-09-2005, 18:39
put the fire arms age to 5

and get rid of ratings on cds, computer games, play station games and dvds because your right games and dvds shouldn't be blamed for violence and stuff

then il be happy so il vote for you every thing else good chioce your right :) ;)
Kinda Sensible people
05-09-2005, 18:40
It all depends on who you were running against. I dissagree on guns and I don't see a viable option to protect people in the case of cosmetics if we do not experiment on animals.
Vetalia
05-09-2005, 18:41
It all depends on what you mean by "egalitarian". Everything else is cool with me, but I don't think kids should be able to buy porn at age 16. That just seems dangerous given the kind of scum that associate in those places; I support age 16 for access/purchase online, but not purchasing it in stores.
Squi
05-09-2005, 18:43
Nothing in your profile disqaulifies you from recieving my vote, although I am somewhat bothered by your smoking in restaurant and/or bar stance - I would prefer them to have the freedom to decide for themselves - but the stance is not enough to disqualify you from recieving my vote. Of course I long ago gave up on looking for a canidate who matched my positions on the issues, so I am not an issue voter, instead I look primarily at the underlying philosophy of the canidate, so for my consideration would you please adress what you consider the proper role of the chief executive in the relationship between the government and it's citizens and how the law interacts with this role.
Carops
05-09-2005, 18:43
put the fire arms age to 5

and get rid of ratings on cds, computer games, play station games and dvds because your right games and dvds shouldn't be blamed for violence and stuff

then il be happy so il vote for you every thing else good chioce your right :) ;)

Ah! Be gone with your huge red writing! It's scaring the children!
Schloss Hobbitton
05-09-2005, 18:45
Do you think religions should need to prove they were philanthropic before qualifying for tax breaks (think: scientology)?

Do you think people with children should pay less tax, or get government handouts?

Do you favour corporal punishment? For what crimes?

Do you favour capital punishment? For what crimes?
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 18:51
It all depends on what you mean by "egalitarian".

Everybody is equal. Equal rights, duties, opportunities, voice.

Everything else is cool with me, but I don't think kids should be able to buy porn at age 16. That just seems dangerous given the kind of scum that associate in those places; I support age 16 for access/purchase online, but not purchasing it in stores.

To be honest, I feel if you can have sex at 16, why should you wait 2 more years to get magazines/DVDs of people doing said act? It makes no sense to me.

It all depends on who you were running against.

The current leader of your country.

I don't see a viable option to protect people in the case of cosmetics if we do not experiment on animals.

I belive if a person develops cosmetics and feels it's safe for all, then he or she should be willing to dip their fonger in the bottle.
MoparRocks
05-09-2005, 18:51
Egalitarian.
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics.
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record.
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers.
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime.
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started.
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16.




1. Maybe
2. Don't really care...
3. Yes
4. Depends on the situation
5. Sure, why not?
6. Yes.
7. Yeah.
8. Thank you!
9. Yes and no...
10. Don't care much, either way.


6 YES, 2 MAYBE, 2 NO

I might vote for you.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 18:56
Do you think religions should need to prove they were philanthropic before qualifying for tax breaks (think: scientology)?

If I read you right, then yes.

Do you think people with children should pay less tax, or get government handouts?

Get a tax break.

Do you favour corporal punishment? For what crimes?

Do you favour capital punishment? For what crimes?

No to corporal, and definately no to capital.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-09-2005, 19:05
What is your stance on the propogation of hamster based nuclear arms?
Would you agree to finance a scientific study into how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?
Would you outlaw excessive use of the word "Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer" in the presence of underage individuals?
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Sponge Based Philanthrophic Society?
What would you do for a Klondike Bar?
Until these questions are answered about you and your beliefs I can't, in good faith, vote for you as President of the United States. Such an office demands the kind of man who isn't afraid to take a stand on the word "Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer", and that is exactly why George Bush has twice trumped the opposition. However, I am starting to suspect that this letter I received saying that "my concern was appreciated" wasn't sent in neccessarily good faith. They must have gotten to him somehow, those "Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer"-bastards must have stopped him.
It seems we will need a new leader to carry the fight to the enemy. Can you take up the standard? Heft the banner? Hoist the flag pole? Hold the torch? Shake your booty? Can you?
Kinda Sensible people
05-09-2005, 19:05
The current leader of your country.


You or George Bush? Heh.... No question there. You'd have my vote.
Haken Rider
05-09-2005, 19:11
Our Guy has practicaly the same profile.
Axinon
05-09-2005, 19:12
I agree with you on many points (although not all). I'd vote for you over G.W.Bush






....but I can't vote yet....
The blessed Chris
05-09-2005, 19:19
Ah! Be gone with your huge red writing! It's scaring the children!

Precisely why children need firearms, to maim or kill what they happen to be scared of :D
Gulf Republics
05-09-2005, 19:20
I wouldnt vote for you because you cant spell believe and you have over 2,000 posts which means you have too much time on your hands or your an activist, and nobody wants an activst for a major position because they cause more problems then they fix.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 19:23
I wouldnt vote for you because you cant spell believe and you have over 2,000 posts which means you have too much time on your hands or your an activist, and nobody wants an activst for a major position because they cause more problems then they fix.

I know. It's just one of those things I can never spell right.

And I have too much time on my hands. Time which can be spent running a country.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 19:57
Can I say a big "Thank You" to: Axinon, Frozopia, Michaelic France, Monotonous, MoparRocks, Myballsarehuge, Nadkor, Neo-Anarchists, Occhia, Pantylvania, Psuedo-Anarchists, The blessed Chris, and Tinkie-Winkie Popo.

Glad to see I have some support.
Smunkeeville
05-09-2005, 20:20
If I was running for the post as leader of your country, would you vote for me based on my profile. Assume the opposition is the leader of your country. Please state your country.

My profile:

Egalitarian.
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics.
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record.
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers.
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime.
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started.
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16.

Anything I missed, please ask me and I'll try to answer.

I agree with everything but the porn and sex age. I think unless you are an adult sex and porn should be off limits, but of course I am an evangelical Christian so I think sex is for marriage and porn is not a great use of time anyway.

Although I am pro-life, I would still vote for you because the rest seems to fit. I wouldn't vote for a pro-life candidate if the rest didn't fit so it seems only fair.
Smunkeeville
05-09-2005, 20:24
I also forgot to ask

what exactly do you mean by separation of church and state because many have differing opinions of what that means?
Kroisistan
05-09-2005, 20:25
Hell yes, Mr. Primesident.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 20:29
Although I am pro-life, I would still vote for you because the rest seems to fit. I wouldn't vote for a pro-life candidate if the rest didn't fit so it seems only fair.

Well thanks then.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 20:32
I also forgot to ask

what exactly do you mean by separation of church and state because many have differing opinions of what that means?

Basically I feel religious groups and the State should not intefere with each other unless necessary.
Hogsweat
05-09-2005, 20:37
That's fine 'cept for the guns. I'd easily vote for you if you banned firearms. However, what's your stance on the military? is it important? is nationalised industry (healthcare and education especially) more important than private?
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 20:42
That's fine 'cept for the guns. I'd easily vote for you if you banned firearms. However, what's your stance on the military? is it important? is nationalised industry (healthcare and education especially) more important than private?

Ah, well then. As to the other questions:

I belive the military is important, but mainly for defending the homeland.
I belive nationalised industry (healthcare and education especially) to be farmore important than private industry.
Zatarack
05-09-2005, 20:44
Not silly enough.
Sonaj
05-09-2005, 20:45
Depends on what party your with (yes, I know I´ve already voted), I´ll probably go with the socialist democrats (at least until Persson leaves).
Hogsweat
05-09-2005, 20:48
Ah, well then. As to the other questions:

I belive the military is important, but mainly for defending the homeland.
I belive nationalised industry (healthcare and education especially) to be farmore important than private industry.

Wow, your like, my favourite candidate ever. Next, do you think it's a waste of money to educate from a young age about the following (answer with A,Yes, B, no, etc)

A- Guns and their proper use
B- Sex
C- Drugs
D- Politics
E- To share (ala Socialism)
F- To grab what you can when you can (ala Capitalism)

What's your status on drugs, and guns, and prostitution?
Europaland
05-09-2005, 21:06
Egalitarian: Yes
Atheist: Yes
I belive in separation from church and state: Yes
Pro-choice on abortion: Yes
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics: No - experiments should be banned unless absolutely necessary
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record: No - all guns should be banned
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers: No - all smoking in bars and restaurants should be banned
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime: Yes
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started: No - they should leave immediately
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16: No - all pornography should be banned
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 21:16
Wow, your like, my favourite candidate ever. Next, do you think it's a waste of money to educate from a young age about the following (answer with A,Yes, B, no, etc)

A- Guns and their proper use
B- Sex
C- Drugs
D- Politics
E- To share (ala Socialism)
F- To grab what you can when you can (ala Capitalism)

What's your status on drugs, and guns, and prostitution?

I think they should be taught about all of them, with maybe the exception of Capitalism.

My status on drugs? Free the weed, and also prosecute the dealers before you target the users. Also focus on rehabilitation.

Guns; legalize them, yet require a permit to own one. Also send a first-time owner to a state-sponsored training school for maybe 1 or 2 sessions about proper use of a gun. (As in, teaching them WHEN to shoot as opposed to HOW).

Prostitution: I like the idea of official "red-light" districts. Also, get them to pay income tax.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-09-2005, 21:51
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics: No - experiments should be banned unless absolutely necessary
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record: No - all guns should be banned
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers: No - all smoking in bars and restuarants should be banned
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16: No - all pornography should be banned
Spoil sport, its for stuff like this that you never get invited to any of the Good Parties.

Anyways, what, Noble Men, are you going to do about "Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer"? Surely such an important issue can't jsut be swept under the collective rug and ignored by the collective conscience?
Utracia
05-09-2005, 21:55
Firearms? Are there any specifications?

Different sections for smokers/non-smokers? What kind of division will be made?
The Vuhifellian States
05-09-2005, 21:59
Hell yes I'd vote for you.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 22:07
Different sections for smokers/non-smokers? What kind of division will be made?

Basically, there would be a set area where you can smoke, and an area where you can't.

Anyways, what, Noble Men, are you going to do about "Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer"? Surely such an important issue can't jsut be swept under the collective rug and ignored by the collective conscience?

First of all, what is Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-09-2005, 22:12
First of all, what is Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer?
I've already said what it is, it is a word that should be stopped before it causes anymore harm to children. People are using this word, this "Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer", with no sense of decency or shame within the sight of children. Not only that, but when I sent a letter to the MPAA requesting that "Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer" be made a qualification for an R rating (under the heading of Absurdly Harsh Language) they ignored me until 8 months into my mailing campaign, at which point they gave me a restraining order. You simply must stop "Borshwatzinmeyerhaverharlschmitzenfuer" from ruining the youth of our youthful youths.
I do declare, all this vulgarity has about given me the vapors. I must go fiind my smelling salts.
Utracia
05-09-2005, 22:19
Basically, there would be a set area where you can smoke, and an area where you can't.

Some restaurants just have one side of the room as smoking section and the other side as non-smoking. Doesn't really help since the smoke just travels into the non-smoking section.
I V Stalin
05-09-2005, 22:25
Egalitarian.
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics.
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record.
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers.
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime.
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started.
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16.
I agree on pretty much everything you've said (except firearms - should be banned - and the Iraq war - it was unjustified, yes, but we should move out), though I prefer to vote from an economic viewpoint. So, what are your economic plans for the UK? Remember, if I like what you say, that's an extra vote for you. :)
Conoloria
05-09-2005, 22:38
fuck you
Chikyota
05-09-2005, 22:43
fuck you

Yes, because that is mature.

[/sarcasm]
Utracia
05-09-2005, 22:44
fuck you

:rolleyes:
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 22:53
I agree on pretty much everything you've said (except firearms - should be banned - and the Iraq war - it was unjustified, yes, but we should move out), though I prefer to vote from an economic viewpoint. So, what are your economic plans for the UK? Remember, if I like what you say, that's an extra vote for you. :)

First off, I'd keep the pound, since the Euro IMO and it's one-size-fits-none interest rates would not be appropriate for us at this time. I would also try to keep industry around, despite its' shrinking significance. I'd re-enforce self-sufficiency where possible.

fuck you

If only...
Bleenie
05-09-2005, 23:05
If I was running for the post as leader of your country, would you vote for me based on my profile. Assume the opposition is the leader of your country. Please state your country.

My profile:

Egalitarian.
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics.
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record.
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers.
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime.
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started.
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16.

Anything I missed, please ask me and I'll try to answer.
will you marry me?
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 23:09
will you marry me?

Straight to signature.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 23:13
Thanks to the following for voting for me:

Axinon, Bleenie, Casimir Poseiden, Dostoprimechatelnosti, Frozopia, Karaska, Kleptonis, Kynot, Leliopolis, Michaelic France, Monotonous, MoparRocks, Myballsarehuge, Nadkor, Neo-Anarchists, Occhia, Pantylvania, Psuedo-Anarchists, Siull, Smunkeeville, Sonaj, Takeizahausen, The blessed Chris, The Vuhifellian States and Tinkie-Winkie Popo.
I V Stalin
05-09-2005, 23:15
Thanks to the following for voting for me:

Axinon, Bleenie, Casimir Poseiden, Dostoprimechatelnosti, Frozopia, Karaska, Kleptonis, Kynot, Leliopolis, Michaelic France, Monotonous, MoparRocks, Myballsarehuge, Nadkor, Neo-Anarchists, Occhia, Pantylvania, Psuedo-Anarchists, Siull, Smunkeeville, Sonaj, Takeizahausen, The blessed Chris, The Vuhifellian States and Tinkie-Winkie Popo.
Add me to the list :)
Makaveli The Great
05-09-2005, 23:18
I want a leader who can spell :P :sniper:
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 23:23
Add me to the list :)

Yay! Thanks for voting!
Utracia
05-09-2005, 23:28
Yay! Thanks for voting!

I really can't figure why anyone would want the crushing responsibility of leading a nation. Making the decisions that can affect the lives of millions depending on the wisdom of that decision? No thank you.
The Noble Men
05-09-2005, 23:35
I really can't figure why anyone would want the crushing responsibility of leading a nation. Making the decisions that can affect the lives of millions depending on the wisdom of that decision? No thank you.

I think the reason many do it is for the power. Others do it because they feel they can do it better.
Smunkeeville
05-09-2005, 23:47
Basically I feel religious groups and the State should not intefere with each other unless necessary.
sure thing then. I would definatly vote for you. any chance you are really able to run? I would make a great campaign volunteer. lol.
Hogsweat
06-09-2005, 10:59
Anyway, yes, you have my vote fully. Where are you campaigning, UK or US? :-P
Compulsive Depression
06-09-2005, 11:23
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.

Around here (The UK) these things aren't issues.
Nobody cares about religion very much. It isn't important in the running of the country.
The church is built into the state (which is a good way to keep an eye on it).
If you don't want an abortion you don't have one, and leave every one else to theirs, thank you.

How about important things?
Individual freedoms vs. power of the state?
What should taxes be used for? How much should be collected?
Do the innocent have anything to fear?
Saxnot
06-09-2005, 11:36
I support most of the original post, except the crazy free-for-all on guns thing.
Orangians
06-09-2005, 11:42
If I was running for the post as leader of your country, would you vote for me based on my profile?

No.
Style of dzan
06-09-2005, 12:23
If I was running for the post as leader of your country, would you vote for me based on my profile. Assume the opposition is the leader of your country. Please state your country.

My profile:

Egalitarian.
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics.
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record.
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers.
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime.
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started.
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16.

Anything I missed, please ask me and I'll try to answer.


Hard to decide:
Compared to our current leader, your pluses are:
- Atheist (big plus)
- At least allow smoking in bars

Minuses
- You would allow guns (big minus, since I want to stay alive)
- You believe that Iraq war was unjust




Hard to decid - I would choose basing whether you are or are not charismatic. Leader must be charismatic.

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Orangians
06-09-2005, 12:28
Minuses
- You would allow guns (big minus, since I want to stay alive)



The guns might actually serve to keep you alive depending on the situation. :)
Style of dzan
06-09-2005, 12:38
The guns might actually serve to keep you alive depending on the situation. :)


Well, no. At least I have no idea how that would keep me alive. you have example?
Delator
06-09-2005, 12:49
Well, I'm from the US, so you automatically get my vote...but I'll look at your view anyways. :)

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Egalitarian. - Excellent

Atheist. - Meh, doesn't much matter to me either way.

I belive in separation from church and state. - Very good, so do I.

Pro-choice on abortion. - I don't like abortion, but I'm aware of the problems that will arise from making it illegal, so I consider myself pro-choice. Therefore, we agree.

For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics. - Kinda Sensible people's argument made some sense, but I like this stance overall.

I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record. - I have no problems with firearm ownership. I have problems with firearm accessability. It's way too easy to get a gun in the US. How might you go about changing this?

I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers. - As long as they are actually physically seperated areas, and there is proper ventilation for the smoking section, then I'm all for this.

I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime. - Outstanding. I blame bad parents, what's your stance?

I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started. - Another point for you!

I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16. - Vetalia makes a point, but on the whole I can agree with this stance.

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Q: Do you think religions should need to prove they were philanthropic before qualifying for tax breaks (think: scientology)?

A: If I read you right, then yes

- Another agreement

Q: Do you think people with children should pay less tax, or get government handouts?

A: Get a tax break.

- And another


Q: Do you favour corporal punishment? For what crimes?
Do you favour capital punishment? For what crimes?

A. No to corporal, and definately no to capital.

- This is where we differ greatly, but I'm digging your other viewpoints too much to hold this against you too much.

I belive the military is important, but mainly for defending the homeland.

- Here we are also in agreement.

I belive nationalised industry (healthcare and education especially) to be farmore important than private industry.

- I'm all for nationalised education, but I'm kind of wary of nationalised health care. I'm not against it, but I can forsee a lot of problems trying to implement such a policy in the U.S. All in all, though, I would agree with this stance.

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Q. Do you think it's a waste of money to educate from a young age about the following...

A- Guns and their proper use
B- Sex
C- Drugs
D- Politics
E- To share (ala Socialism)
F- To grab what you can when you can (ala Capitalism)

What's your status on drugs, and guns, and prostitution?

A. I think they should be taught about all of them, with maybe the exception of Capitalism.

I don't think Socialism or Capitalism should be taught, except as basic differences in terms of politics, but otherwise we are in complete agreement.

My status on drugs? Free the weed, and also prosecute the dealers before you target the users. Also focus on rehabilitation.

This alone would get you my vote.

Guns; legalize them, yet require a permit to own one. Also send a first-time owner to a state-sponsored training school for maybe 1 or 2 sessions about proper use of a gun. (As in, teaching them WHEN to shoot as opposed to HOW).

More or less how I'd go about it, but again, how will you limit availability?

Prostitution: I like the idea of official "red-light" districts. Also, get them to pay income tax.

Income tax...brilliant!

I'd re-enforce self-sufficiency where possible.

Always a wise decision.

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Aside from the Corporal/Capital punishment, and a little reservation on my part on nationalised medicine, I would swear we are clones of each other.

I wonder as to your gender, if you are female, you might get another marriage proposal. :p

In any case, you have my vote! :)
Swilatia
06-09-2005, 12:57
If I was running for the post as leader of your country, would you vote for me based on my profile. Assume the opposition is the leader of your country. Please state your country.

My profile:

Egalitarian.
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics.
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record.
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers.
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime.
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started.
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16.

Anything I missed, please ask me and I'll try to answer.
I would not vote for you
Orangians
06-09-2005, 13:03
Well, no. At least I have no idea how that would keep me alive. you have example?

If somebody breaks into your house, for example. I didn't realize there was any dispute that a gun carries the potential to save, as well as endanger, human lives.
Rocking Tree-Huggers
06-09-2005, 13:10
It should arrive some time between now and 2335. Probably later, mind.


That's what he told me, and I've been to the future and back and it hadn't arrived.
Style of dzan
06-09-2005, 13:15
If somebody breaks into your house, for example. I didn't realize there was any dispute that a gun carries the potential to save, as well as endanger, human lives.

Theoretically you are right. There of course, can be such situations. My point, is that in my country, in current situation, I do not feel any threat to my life.

Now, if I unfortunately happen to be in argument with guy heavily drunk, under drugs, with injured pride, and/or aggressive (etc.), I risk being beaten and/or robbed. (I have been beaten and robbed before: terrible experience that I do not wish for anybody). If guns are allowed, I risk being killed. And I would choose not to.


In your example, I still do not see how gun ownership would save my life? Somebody breaks in my house, and!?!? He probably steals something and I call police. How the fact that I do not own the gun endangers me?
Orangians
06-09-2005, 13:34
Theoretically you are right. There of course, can be such situations. My point, is that in my country, in current situation, I do not feel any threat to my life.

Now, if I unfortunately happen to be in argument with guy heavily drunk, under drugs, with injured pride, and/or aggressive (etc.), I risk being beaten and/or robbed. (I have been beaten and robbed before: terrible experience that I do not wish for anybody). If guns are allowed, I risk being killed. And I would choose not to.


In your example, I still do not see how gun ownership would save my life? Somebody breaks in my house, and!?!? He probably steals something and I call police. How the fact that I do not own the gun endangers me?

The police force sometimes responds to crimes as they occur, but more often than not responds to a crime that's already happened. If you're able to call the police and if you're in a suburb or city close in proximity to a police station, you have a chance, unless your police force is particularly overburdened that night. Otherwise, you're out of luck. Your best shot is to have a gun, assuming you know how to use it.

I don't know where you live, but since you probably don't live in the Utopian Republic of NoCrime, there's always a potential threat to your life.

If a person breaks into your house with the intent to rob you, you'd only need a gun if you wanted to prevent the robbery. If a person breaks into your house with the intent to kill you, your only fighting chance (if you can't get to a phone or if the cops don't arrive in time) is to own a gun. If you have a gun and your attacker has a knife, you're already at an advantage. If you have a gun and your attacker has a gun, you at least have an equal shot. See what I mean?

Years back I read a story in the newspaper about a young woman who broke up with her crazy and obsessive boyfriend. He stalked her and made threatening phone calls to her, so she called the police to report the abuse. The cops told her that there was nothing they could really do for her until he actually made a move. Her father told her to buy a gun just in case her ex-boyfriend did decide to make a move. One night her ex-boyfriend broke into her house and tried to attack her, so she shot and killed him. The police found duct tape, rope, and knives in the trunk of his car.

Now this story isn't characteristic or stereotypical of all gun-related deaths, but the point is that a gun saved her life. A gun was absolutely integral to her self-defense. The cops deter crime, investigate crime, and sometimes prevent crimes, but individuals have to assume the responsibility for self-defense just in case. Don't you agree?
Style of dzan
06-09-2005, 14:00
If a person breaks into your house with the intent to rob you, you'd only need a gun if you wanted to prevent the robbery. If a person breaks into your house with the intent to kill you, your only fighting chance (if you can't get to a phone or if the cops don't arrive in time) is to own a gun. If you have a gun and your attacker has a knife, you're already at an advantage. If you have a gun and your attacker has a gun, you at least have an equal shot. See what I mean?

If I and robber each have guns, then it is possible that I can get killed. If we do not, then mostly not.
Robbery case: even, if only I own the gun, then I am risking killing him. Better I am robbed ten times, then have killed person once. Property is just things.

I have hard time imagining that somebody would break into my house with intent to kill me - I do not really have any enemies. What would be base for person to risk life sentence in prison just to kill me?! It is unreal. Comparably, I could support nuking China, because it would kill many people, one of which can later kill me. Such possibility indeed exists, but quite small. And solutions are not adequate. Just like with guns. And just an addition: it's much harder to kill me without gun, than with it.

Police almost never comes in time to stop the crime. It comes later, but there exists large possibility that criminal will be caught.



Now this story isn't characteristic or stereotypical of all gun-related deaths, but the point is that a gun saved her life. A gun was absolutely integral to her self-defense. The cops deter crime, investigate crime, and sometimes prevent crimes, but individuals have to assume the responsibility for self-defense just in case. Don't you agree?

Yes, I agree. Use pepper spray and tear gas. I am serious.

And I also know that there exists situations when gun can save life.

My point is:
Currently, probability that some criminal would kill me is too small to be discussed. There is thousand more probable things that can kill me. Stealing, of course. A lot of types of that. Killing, no. And I can be beaten also.

In the case if guns are allowed, the probability that I could be killed increases significantly (replacing cases where I could be only beaten since, the bad guy does not own the gun). Yeah, I can protect my property probably more (and also probably die protecting it). I value my and other lifes more than my property.


Year ago I was in situation, when one of my friends (was high on amphetamine and agressive) got unbelievably angry at some guy. If he would have a gun, he would shot that guy without any doubts. Now, they fought a bit, we pulled them away. Next day, that guy had some small injuries, they apologized to each other and no problems from that time.
Do you see my point?
Drunk commies deleted
06-09-2005, 15:37
You've got my vote.
Legless Pirates
06-09-2005, 15:48
No, because of the guns
The Noble Men
06-09-2005, 17:28
Sorry I haven't been able to answer your questions. Here we go:

First off, I'm British, and I should be able to run the next election or the one after.

Now to some specific questions:

"I have no problems with firearm ownership. I have problems with firearm accessability. It's way too easy to get a gun in the US. How might you go about changing this?"

By reducing the trade of firearms to government-run stores, and making the private trade of guns illegal.

"I blame bad parents, what's your stance?"

I belive we can not pinpoint one factor towards child crime. Blaming it on video games is a mere scapegoat.

"I wonder as to your gender, if you are female, you might get another marriage proposal. :p"

Male.

"Individual freedoms vs. power of the state?"

Freedom to a point.

"What should taxes be used for? How much should be collected?"

I belive the majority of the taxes should fund projects that benefit the people. I don't know about "how much", as the situation can vary.

"Do the innocent have anything to fear?"

Fear who?
Random Kingdom
06-09-2005, 17:28
I would have said no, but I'm a minor. :(
Hiberniae
06-09-2005, 17:35
If I was running for the post as leader of your country, would you vote for me based on my profile. Assume the opposition is the leader of your country. Please state your country.

My profile:

Egalitarian.
Atheist.
I belive in separation from church and state.
Pro-choice on abortion.
For animal experimentation, but only if it's for medicine, not cosmetics.
I belive we should all be able to own firearms above age 18, if you don't have a crinimal record.
I belive that all bars restaurants should be forced to have different areas for smokers and non-smokers.
I belive that video-games should not be blamed for child crime.
I belive that although the Iraq war was unjust, the invading forces have to stay in order to fix the mess they started.
I belive that the porn buying age should be the same as the having-sex age, and that bith should be 16.

Anything I missed, please ask me and I'll try to answer.


Hmm...Not too sure if I would, depends on what your economic views were and if you agree/disagree with socializing healthcare.
Hogsweat
06-09-2005, 17:41
Yes, when I can vote, i'll vote for your party. What's it called? (heh, another four years and yay)