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Whatever the disaster Bush Never forgets about his friends.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3335685

what a surprise *rolls eyes*

ok......... :rolleyes:

That man knows how to get the best out of every situation :sarcasm:

The title of the article is false as the work to be done is limited to three Navy facilities in Mississippi. More info:

KBR was assigned the work under a "construction capabilities" contract awarded in 2004 after a competitive bidding process. The company is not involved in the Army Corps of Engineers' effort to repair New Orleans' levees.

The title of the article is false as the work to be done is limited to three Navy facilities in Mississippi. More info:

KBR was assigned the work under a "construction capabilities" contract awarded in 2004 after a competitive bidding process. The company is not involved in the Army Corps of Engineers' effort to repair New Orleans' levees.

Exactly what Bush bashers keep forgetting. Halliburton won a competitive bid and, as such, has the contract for certain jobs. They are also just about the only US company that is large enough and has the resources available to handle a lot of the jobs they do. FYI: The office where I work also awards contracts with the US government bidding process. Bids are sealed until considered and the bidding company is not known until after the selection has been made.

KBR was assigned the work under a "construction capabilities" contract awarded in 2004 after a competitive bidding process

KBR was assigned the work under a "construction capabilities" contract awarded in 2004 after a competitive bidding process

Halliburton = Cheney = Bush = EVIL :rolleyes:

With a little research the folks that keep trying to make this connection would learn that Halliburton has had dozens of government contracts awarded in competitive process long before Bush ever thought of running for president. The fact is, they're the best at it and have the most to offer.

Zooke, that doesn't support anyones political agenda. Why would they post it? What place does truth have in mud-slinging?

:rolleyes:

I'm no fan of Halliburton, but honestly...this thread is barely informative, and it is hardly necessary.

what a surprise *rolls eyes*
ditto

I really hope this is wrong...

If it ain't *gets baseball bat*.

Halliburton is here to help, that is for a cost.

Why let the people in who will do it for free when they can pay a contracting company billions of dollars, a company they have no relations to at all, shut up, no relations!

It's a self-perpetuating situation...they keep getting all these juicy contracts for rip-off rates that the public has to pay through taxes, and so they grow, and continue to be the company that wins all the 'competitive' bids because the government has basically made sure they are the only ones who can compete. And when they leave government, they can have a nice office and a fat paycheck. Retirement planning 4tw.

And I was under the impression the Spoils System died under the Jackson Administration.

BECOME INFORMED PEOPLE!

Sick Dreams:KBR was assigned the work under a "construction capabilities" contract awarded in 2004 after a competitive bidding process

Karlila: KBR was assigned the work under a "construction capabilities" contract awarded in 2004 after a competitive bidding process. The company is not involved in the Army Corps of Engineers' effort to repair New Orleans' levees.

Here is the facts of the matter!

I know I'm wasting my breath with these people but for God's sake, actually read something before blaming people!

It's a self-perpetuating situation...they keep getting all these juicy contracts for rip-off rates that the public has to pay through taxes, and so they grow, and continue to be the company that wins all the 'competitive' bids because the government has basically made sure they are the only ones who can compete. And when they leave government, they can have a nice office and a fat paycheck. Retirement planning 4tw.

You obviously have no experience and do not understand how the government bidding process works. If they offer the most resources at the best price, they win. Bids are analyzed and selection is made without knowledge of the company submitting the bid. That is why it is called a "sealed bid" process. Halliburton doesn't get all of the bids. The various government bodies have contracts with corporate giants like Halliburton as well as smaller companies, including major contractors and toilet tissue distributors. Even the paper clips in our office are purchased through a company that won a sealed bid.

Why let the people in who will do it for free when they can pay a contracting company billions of dollars, a company they have no relations to at all, shut up, no relations!

So you would allow anyone, qualified or not, rewire your electric power, repair your roof, or be permitted on military installations without security screening, just so long as it is for free? My cousin doesn't know his butt from his elbow...I'll send him over to your house to make repairs. Don't worry about the gun he carries. We're pretty sure he's taking his meds. :rolleyes:

Any company or individual bidding on a government contract must also qualify in terms of financial stability, bondability, and prior performance. If Joe Blow puts in a bid for construction and he doesn't have the financial and material assets to guarantee his work, his bid is passed over.

Oh how I hate that VP.

No surprise there. Halliburton has always been the best at oil services, and that includes cleaning up contaminated wastes. Besides, they'll probably be needed to service the refineries and pipelines.

Bush remembers who his friends are... as well as his portfolio.

So you would allow anyone, qualified or not, rewire your electric power, repair your roof, or be permitted on military installations without security screening, just so long as it is for free? My cousin doesn't know his butt from his elbow...I'll send him over to your house to make repairs. Don't worry about the gun he carries. We're pretty sure he's taking his meds. :rolleyes:
There are wholly qualified people volunteering to help people in New Orleans.

You obviously have no experience and do not understand how the government bidding process works. If they offer the most resources at the best price, they win. Bids are analyzed and selection is made without knowledge of the company submitting the bid. That is why it is called a "sealed bid" process.
I think it is naive to expect that the process is corruption-free. People cris-cross the boundary between government and business freely. Some, like Cheney, straddle it. The whole process is prone to conflicts of interest.

Whatever the disaster Bush Never forgets about his friends.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3335685
I think part of the problem is perception. Most people assume that the Bush Admin. funds Halliburton simply because Dick Cheney was on it. The real reason is backwards: Cheney was on the board there because Halliburton was, next to Fannie Mae, the most politicized business in the US. Since the Vietnam War, Halliburton has done a lot with the US government for oil services, everything from rig repair to toxic chemical cleanup to, as we saw during the Gulf Wars, extinguishing oil well fires. What they do almost naturally requires them to be so politicized, because quite frankly, most oil companies don't need Halliburton's services on a regular basis.
In fact, it virtually lives off government money. Halliburton has been turning up substantial losses from their civilian operations, as there are other, smaller firms able to do the same thing. All Haliburton is is a company whose executives are ex-politicians, looking to make private sector money while still doing public sector work.

They won the contract in a competitive bidding process. There's nothing wrong with this because it's a standard procedure to allow companies to bid on government contracts, and Halliburton was the company who won the bidding. They were the best competitor for the job. Now, it would be different if this was not a competitive bidding process, but that's not the case.

They won the contract in a competitive bidding process. There's nothing wrong with this because it's a standard procedure to allow companies to bid on government contracts, and Halliburton was the company who won the bidding. They were the best competitor for the job. Now, it would be different if this was not a competitive bidding process, but that's not the case.

Why bother with the facts Vetalia, they'll only ignore it and continue to view Bush as The Great Satan :rolleyes:

There are few companies with the ability to untake such a huge task.
Haliburton is one of the few. Cry and whine about a Bush/Cheney link all you want...the facts are the facts...they are the only company capable of handling such logistics world wide....if you dont believe it, look into it...quit listening to the soundbites of the media and ask a soldier who feeds and houses them and if they are happy with the services haliburton provides.

This all comes down to one thing.

Do you believe Dick Cheney is honest.

I don't.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/30/cheney.halliburton/
http://www.mediareviewnet.com/Cheney%20Coordinated%20Halliburton%20Contracts.htm
Tales of the FBI hacking on what has really happened... http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041029/news_1n29halli.html
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/contract/2004/1028greenhouse.htm

Apparently the Restore Iraqi Oil deal was a no-bid contract, worth $7 billion alone.






It was a no-bid contract.
It is worth $7 billion.
The FBI is investigating.

Competitive bids aren't always necessarily that competitve, certainly where Dick Cheney's pals are involved.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/22/AR2005052200613.html http://www.ecotalk.org/SERVEaccenture.htm

C6?

We are talking about Katrina and the fact that Halliburton actually won a competitive bid.

Read up on the facts throughout this thread and you'll see that.

If you want to talk Iraq, take it somewhere else.

C6?

We are talking about Katrina and the fact that Halliburton actually won a competitive bid.Yes I know.

Read up on the facts throughout this thread and you'll see that.I have allready done that but reading the thread title would suffice.

If you want to talk Iraq, take it somewhere else.I have and I always will. Don't worry about me. That post is all I have to say about this subject.