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Is Bush Marie Antoinette or Nero?

Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 00:35
In this latest wingnut talking point scenario (blame Blanco and Nagin primarily), everyone has personal responsibility except George Bush.

It assumes that Mr Bush has no primary responsibility in this whatsoever, and that he's basically elected and paid (on the order of $250K every year) to do, well, nothing.

This fantasy basically ignores the fact that Bush has been president for the last 4.5 years, along with all the attendant decisions he's made that affected emergency preparedness and prevention.

This worldview also assumes that Mr. Bush had a hand in finally getting the needed supplies to the people in need, rather than simply using the arrival of help as a photo op.

What it comes down to, though, is this: George Bush stayed on vacation, going on golf outings and political fundraisers/speeches, playing guitar, eating cake, clearing brush at his fake ranch, falling off his bike etc., while a known national disaster scenario was unfolding. Most Americans rightfully believe it is the federal government's job, led by the President, to deal with disasters this huge. And they see a President who didn't give a damn until the political heat was on.

Compared with the protection of lives, obscure wingnut philosophies about the rightful role of the federal government ring a tad hollow. The out-of-touch and crassly indifferent nature of Bush asslickers is once again visible for all to see.
Jenrak
05-09-2005, 00:48
I don't know who the heck Marie Antionette is, but I know he's not Nero.

Nero persecuted the Christians more than any other Roman Emperor, and Bush has had a strong amount of votes coming from Christians. So I will not tie Bush to Nero unless he starts persecuting Christians.
Ashmoria
05-09-2005, 00:50
he would look stunning in a shepardess outfit.
Dobbsworld
05-09-2005, 00:52
No way he's Marie Antoinette. Marie Antoinette would look terrible in those natty suits Bush wears.

I say Nero or Zero.
Gartref
05-09-2005, 00:52
Let them eat Bush.
Keruvalia
05-09-2005, 00:58
Is Bush Marie Antoinette or Nero?

Worse .... he's Bush.
Vetalia
05-09-2005, 01:28
Let them eat Bush.

Better than let them eat Dick...
Dobbsworld
05-09-2005, 01:30
Better than let them eat Dick...
From the photo I saw, that'd be a tad difficult to do anyway...
Free Soviets
05-09-2005, 01:56
Worse .... he's Bush.

"let them eat cake"
"fiddled while rome burned"
"the pet goat"
Caribel
05-09-2005, 02:02
Bu$h is a dumbass and a potfucker!
Anarchic Christians
05-09-2005, 02:08
Well he managed to match the fiddler twice no less.

At least he isn't Caligula, grandstanding, paranoia, grand projects started out of spite that land his people in shit, dying after two years of terrible misrule. 3/4, lucky escape there....


Doh!
Lotus Puppy
05-09-2005, 02:09
I've always wanted to ask, but what party is Gov. Blanco in? I never knew, truth be told.
Tactical Grace
05-09-2005, 02:38
He's using the Constitution as a figleaf...oh, it's the state government's responsibility...when the state has been destroyed and the government has ceased to function.
Gymoor II The Return
05-09-2005, 02:39
I don't know who the heck Marie Antionette is...--snip--

:eek:

Are you serious?
Gymoor II The Return
05-09-2005, 02:42
I've always wanted to ask, but what party is Gov. Blanco in? I never knew, truth be told.

She's a Democrat. She also has a lot to answer for, but then it wasn't her decision to reduce federal spending for Fema and projects that would have reinforced the levees.

Apparently, drills and preparation for natural disasters was de-emphasized after the creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security.
God007
05-09-2005, 02:49
There is NO way that we as a nation could have prepared for this kind of devestation. Yes, we could have tried to beef up the levies, but i doubt that that would help, because there, as far as i know, There is no way to beef up catagory 3 levies up to catagory 4-5 in the amount of time that they had.
The Chaos Sentinels
05-09-2005, 03:15
What I dont get is why some people try to figure out who is to blame for the severity of natural disasters where they should be trying to figure out how to fix the problem when it presents itself. Its not like the Bush administration predicted (and prevented) the death toll numbering in the thousands- its what is being done to help these people get back on their feet, even considering the deaths of friends and family.

We cannot reduce the severity of disasters to an extent that would have made any difference in the eyes of the beholders. If the death toll was only 900 instead of 1000+, you people would still be trying to figure out who is to blame. Many more thousands of people have been saved... many to an extent that is as miserable as death. But that will not be forever, and having your life is better than not.

The conditions could be improved now, of course. But the victims of Katrina will return to their lives eventually, no matter how changed they are.
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:00
I don't know who the heck Marie Antionette is, but I know he's not Nero.

Nero persecuted the Christians more than any other Roman Emperor, and Bush has had a strong amount of votes coming from Christians. So I will not tie Bush to Nero unless he starts persecuting Christians.
Bush is a false christian and the so-called christians who support him are neo-pharissees
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:02
No way he's Marie Antoinette. Marie Antoinette would look terrible in those natty suits Bush wears.

I say Nero or Zero.
true and Nero was a knave like Bush too
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:03
Let them eat Bush.
:D :D :D
Stinky Head Cheese
05-09-2005, 04:04
Bush is a false christian and the so-called christians who support him are neo-pharissees
Who are you to judge what kind of Christian he is?
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:05
Worse .... he's Bush.
from a long line of nephilim that stretches back into atiquity
Anarchic Christians
05-09-2005, 04:06
Who are you to judge what kind of Christian he is?

Well he does fail the 'love thy neighbour' 'do unto others' and a couple of other tests.

However, I'm not the one to decide this.
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:07
Well he managed to match the fiddler twice no less.

At least he isn't Caligula, grandstanding, paranoia, grand projects started out of spite that land his people in shit, dying after two years of terrible misrule. 3/4, lucky escape there....


Doh!
the Romans knew what to do with their bad leaders
Cpt_Cody
05-09-2005, 04:08
I think no one in their right mind would say Bush has no responsibility for what happened, but to lay the blame all at his feet is gross oversimplification. It is the primary responsibility of the state and local government to organize for disaster relief, with the federal government providing an important secondary role. Nagin and Blanco could've done so much more to prevent this disaster from becoming what it's turned into, and so could have Bush. It was a failure of all levels of government and something that will undoubtedly result in official investigations and such.
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:09
He's using the Constitution as a figleaf...oh, it's the state government's responsibility...when the state has been destroyed and the government has ceased to function.
with a disaster on this scale its the federal govts job--why else do you think FEMA exists? Oh but Bush privitaized FEMA which prevented it from acting
the neocon parasite Grover Norquist (a Bush-bot) was quoted as saying they wanted to make the federal govt so small you could drown it in a bath tub. This diaster is a direct outcome of this warped philosophy
Italia Major
05-09-2005, 04:12
Funniest thing I have ever read here~! :p

Let them eat Bush.
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:15
She's a Democrat. She also has a lot to answer for, but then it wasn't her decision to reduce federal spending for Fema and projects that would have reinforced the levees.

Apparently, drills and preparation for natural disasters was de-emphasized after the creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security.
Blanco/Nagin are just the latest scapegoats for an atrocity of a President who doesnt want to be held accountable for his numerous acts of treason
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:16
There is NO way that we as a nation could have prepared for this kind of devestation. Yes, we could have tried to beef up the levies, but i doubt that that would help, because there, as far as i know, There is no way to beef up catagory 3 levies up to catagory 4-5 in the amount of time that they had.
but Bush taking 5 days to respond is an act of criminal negligence
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:18
Who are you to judge what kind of Christian he is?
because I know the values that christainity preaches and Bush violates every single one of them without fail
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 04:20
Well he does fail the 'love thy neighbour' 'do unto others' and a couple of other tests.

However, I'm not the one to decide this.
Bush is everything christianity stands in opposition to
Copiosa Scotia
05-09-2005, 04:49
Let them eat Bush.

Well played, sir.
Avika
05-09-2005, 04:57
I see the attacks on Bush are on as usual. It's funny how people complain about Bush making america a dictatorship, yet complain when Bush doesn't act like it is. It's funny how all of you put all of your blame on Bush when there were several hundred unused school buses destroyed in the hurricane. Maybe those oculd have helped? Maybe Bush can't babysit everyone all the time. Maybe, if the US had a liberal democrat as president who did the same thing Bush is doing for Katrina's victims, you all wouldn't have made such personal attacks on him?
Muravyets
05-09-2005, 08:21
I see the attacks on Bush are on as usual.

Yeah! Get him!! :D

Okay, let's leave Katrina aside and look at all the other ways he's a total fuck up: war-excuse-of-the-week; no WMDs; no bin Ladin (maybe they're together?); Valerie Plame; associates with that evil bastard Karl Rove; associates with that evil bastard Dick Cheney; 1800+ US soldiers and 1000s of Iraqis and Afghanistanis dead; "Mission Accomplished"; 9/11 intelligence failures (his trademark!!); how big is the deficit now?; increased environmental pollution; alienated all our allies; can't speak English; that infuriating frigging smirk; plus, his suits don't fit.

I say Marie Antoinette because I don't think he knows how to play the fiddle, but he is a stupid, privileged whore.
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 08:25
Yeah! Get him!! :D

Okay, let's leave Katrina aside and look at all the other ways he's a total fuck up: war-excuse-of-the-week; no WMDs; no bin Ladin (maybe they're together?); Valerie Plame; associates with that evil bastard Karel Rove; associates with that evil bastard Dick Cheney; 1800+ US soldiers and 1000s of Iraqis and Afghanistanis dead; "Mission Accomplished"; 9/11 intelligence failures (his trademark!!); how big is the deficit now?; increased environmental pollution; alienated all our allies; can't speak English; that infuriating frigging smirk; plus, his suits don't fit.

I say Marie Antoinette because I don't think he knows how to play the fiddle, but he is a stupid, privileged whore.
you can add alot more to this list of fuckups too but amazingly you cant name ONE not ONE good thing that hes done. Even all his appointments are the scum of the earth. America is starting to resemble the roman empire right before the fall
Muravyets
05-09-2005, 08:33
you can add alot more to this list of fuckups too but amazingly you cant name ONE not ONE good thing that hes done. Even all his appointments are the scum of the earth. America is starting to resemble the roman empire right before the fall

That's because he hasn't done anything good, probably ever in his life. It is my firm opinion that everything he says is a lie and everything he does is a crime. A Hague tribunal should be called every time that bastard farts.

PS: I didn't like his father, and I don't like his brother, either. And I'd feel this way if he was a Dem, a Communist, or just some schmoe on the street, because he's nothing but a worthless, egotisitical frat-loser.

So, Marie Antoinette, definitely.
Zagat
05-09-2005, 08:50
I see the attacks on Bush are on as usual.
Aha, and although I do recall some criticism of them, I note that Bush senior and Regan didnt have to deal with this same rate of 'attack'.

It's funny how people complain about Bush making america a dictatorship, yet complain when Bush doesn't act like it is.
What's funny is that there have been republican Presidents before, and they didnt get 'attacked' like Bush. Even Bimbo-Clinton didnt inspire this much animosity and anger. Every President is either Republican or Democrat, and usually faces opposition from...well from the opposition. Most do not have to deal with this level of opposition. Now maybe all these attacks and Bush's constant fuckups, all without any indication that he can actually do anything right, are a coincidence rather than cause and effect. But frankly if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, I wouldnt put it's being a duck down as a coincidence of the looking, walking and sounding (like a duck), but rather as the cause of its looking, walking and sounding (like a duck).

It's funny how all of you put all of your blame on Bush when there were several hundred unused school buses destroyed in the hurricane.
You gotta be joking? What do you think a leader is for? There is an art to good leadership. One has to know when despite being empowered to come in heavy handed, one should take a more even handed approach, equally one needs to know when to step in, even if it is not necessarily correct technically beurocratic proceedure to do so. Bush knows neither of these things, as the hyped up campaign to send an already distressed post 9/11 populice into paranoia and vengence lust, along with his utter inability to percieve a need for clear leadership (and that he as President was the only one who could provide this) in the case of New Orleans. Bush is worthless as a leader, that much was clear after 9/11.

Maybe those oculd have helped?
I suggest they could, and ultimately, the person at the top of the line of blame, is President Bush.

Maybe Bush can't babysit everyone all the time.
Of course he cannot and should not, but a good leader knows when it is time to 'lead', I dont think that it is true that no one in the whole of the US is a competent leader, so I can only conclude that once this mess has been sorted to a degree, US voters ask themselves seriously what is going on that US citizens are stuck with a 2nd rate (and that is being generous) leader as President, when undoubtedly there are many many many more capable, more competent leaders in the United States. It's time to stop treating politics like some kind of damm sport; it's time to stop stretching our own creduality in order to make the 'facts' fit ideology.

Maybe, if the US had a liberal democrat as president who did the same thing Bush is doing for Katrina's victims, you all wouldn't have made such personal attacks on him?
Aha, that's completely believable, because mega conservative Renaldo (just as one example) would never say anything bad about a liberal or a democrat....that goes double for Fox news...
Maybe if you actually were objective and looked at the facts with a view to reaching a rational conclusion (rather than a view to make the facts fit your preconcieved conclusion), you'd see that it is entirely possible that some people are not suited to being President, that nothing prevents such persons from being Republican, and where people get so caught up in pretending politics is like a slightly more boring Superbowl, such idiots can end up as President...not only is it possible, but the current President of the US is proof of it's having happened.
Swimmingpool
05-09-2005, 09:46
Let them eat Bush.
You win this thread.
Carops
05-09-2005, 10:02
you can add alot more to this list of fuckups too but amazingly you cant name ONE not ONE good thing that hes done. Even all his appointments are the scum of the earth. America is starting to resemble the roman empire right before the fall

I can't stand him, but I don't really think America is resembling the Roman Empire just before the fall...
Gymoor II The Return
05-09-2005, 10:05
I can't stand him, but I don't really think America is resembling the Roman Empire just before the fall...

Yeah, Rome technically fell when some really burly guy with a germanic or related accent took over...

Arnold for prez 2008...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
The blessed Chris
05-09-2005, 10:10
Yeah! Get him!! :D

Okay, let's leave Katrina aside and look at all the other ways he's a total fuck up: war-excuse-of-the-week; no WMDs; no bin Ladin (maybe they're together?); Valerie Plame; associates with that evil bastard Karl Rove; associates with that evil bastard Dick Cheney; 1800+ US soldiers and 1000s of Iraqis and Afghanistanis dead; "Mission Accomplished"; 9/11 intelligence failures (his trademark!!); how big is the deficit now?; increased environmental pollution; alienated all our allies; can't speak English; that infuriating frigging smirk; plus, his suits don't fit.

I say Marie Antoinette because I don't think he knows how to play the fiddle, but he is a stupid, privileged whore.

Still, there's always a career in stand up comedy to await him... :D
Anarchic Christians
05-09-2005, 10:11
I can't stand him, but I don't really think America is resembling the Roman Empire just before the fall...

Well no, you haven't had a Pres who's idea of a census was to collect cobwebs. Mind you, abstinence-only is nearly as silly and much more dangerous.
Anarchic Christians
05-09-2005, 10:12
Still, there's always a career in stand up comedy to await him... :D

Real stand-ups are funny for the reason they want to be. Go listen to Eddie Izzard or Peter Kay, there's real stand-up.
Carops
05-09-2005, 10:12
Yeah, Rome technically fell when some really burly guy with a germanic or related accent took over...

Arnold for prez 2008...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Technically not. Rome experienced a very long and boring decline. By the tome of the sacking of Romne by the Goths in 405 AD, there was very little of the Western Roman Empire left in many ways. The Film "The Fall of The Roman Empire," set during the reign of Marcus Aurelius and then his evil son Commodus, shows the time when the rot really started to set. Romulus Augustus was the very last western Roman Emperor. The Eastern Roman Empire, which became the Byzantine Empire, lasted as a political entity until 1453, ending with the fall of Constantinople.
Ihrentan
05-09-2005, 10:14
because I know the values that christainity preaches and Bush violates every single one of them without fail
Well, really only one thing makes you a Christian, and only God can judge that.
Kelleda
05-09-2005, 10:16
I don't know who the heck Marie Antionette is, but I know he's not Nero.

Nero persecuted the Christians more than any other Roman Emperor, and Bush has had a strong amount of votes coming from Christians. So I will not tie Bush to Nero unless he starts persecuting Christians.

Not the exact right angle, but you're thinking, and that's good.

Actually, you wouldn't want to compare Christians to Christians. See, in Nero's time, the Olympian gods were still kinda big in Rome. They still didn't like Christianity all that much. Anyway, the Christians serve now as the believers in the Olympians did then. Some would make the argument that the Muslims are the new Christians, so to speak, but this would also be inaccurate, as they actually do pretty well with respect to other countrys' minority creeds (not as well as they should be treated, but still). But Bush has three years left and nothing to lose, so we'll see.
Cheneille
05-09-2005, 10:16
Bush to the people of New Orleans: "Let them eat Cake"

Has kind of a ring to it.
Muravyets
05-09-2005, 18:54
Well no, you haven't had a Pres who's idea of a census was to collect cobwebs. Mind you, abstinence-only is nearly as silly and much more dangerous.

I forgot that one, thanks. <adds to list of fuck-ups> Oh, and No Child Left Behind and the secret energy plan, too. :D
Muravyets
05-09-2005, 18:56
I forgot that one, thanks. <adds to list of fuck-ups> Oh, and No Child Left Behind and the secret energy plan, too. :D

And Social Security and Medicare prescriptions... Dammit, it just doesn't end.

Oh, oh, and the biggest one of all -- the Patriot Act!! How could I forget that? I must have been dazzled by the panoply.
Muravyets
05-09-2005, 19:00
I've been trying to get my brother to play NS with me; I want to play "Race to the Bottom" to see which of our philosophies would run a country into the ground faster, but I realize neither of us could ever beat the current US admin at that.
Dobbsworld
05-09-2005, 19:02
Actually, you wouldn't want to compare Christians to Christians. See, in Nero's time, the Olympian gods were still kinda big in Rome. They still didn't like Christianity all that much. Anyway, the Christians serve now as the believers in the Olympians did then. Some would make the argument that the Muslims are the new Christians, so to speak, but this would also be inaccurate, as they actually do pretty well with respect to other countrys' minority creeds (not as well as they should be treated, but still). But Bush has three years left and nothing to lose, so we'll see.
So when exactly did the Greek Gods (the Olympians (http://www.hol.gr/greece/olymp.htm)) suddenly surmount the Roman (http://www.crystalinks.com/romegods.html) Gods?
Michaelic France
05-09-2005, 19:18
"Nero persecuted the Christians more than any other Roman Emperor"

I don't think you should take this so literally. Bush doesn't openly persecute any group because that's not an acceptable political technique anymore, but he does hold biases towards the liberal movement and the faith of Islam. O, and Marie Antoinette was the last queen of France (she got beheaded)
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 21:16
That's because he hasn't done anything good, probably ever in his life. It is my firm opinion that everything he says is a lie and everything he does is a crime. A Hague tribunal should be called every time that bastard farts.

PS: I didn't like his father, and I don't like his brother, either. And I'd feel this way if he was a Dem, a Communist, or just some schmoe on the street, because he's nothing but a worthless, egotisitical frat-loser.

So, Marie Antoinette, definitely.
our minds are one on this--the Bush litter all thru the aeons aer the aristocracy of the "soulless ones"
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 21:21
I can't stand him, but I don't really think America is resembling the Roman Empire just before the fall...
thank you for the correction. I shoulda said the roman empire after the fall
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 21:29
Yeah, Rome technically fell when some really burly guy with a germanic or related accent took over...

Arnold for prez 2008...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
:D :cool: :D
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 21:34
Well no, you haven't had a Pres who's idea of a census was to collect cobwebs. Mind you, abstinence-only is nearly as silly and much more dangerous.
thats only cause the census of cobwells are already in Bushs head

P.S. if my posts dont sound right today its from the haze
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 21:39
Well, really only one thing makes you a Christian, and only God can judge that.
correct--and the God within me tells me Bush is the beast
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 21:47
I forgot that one, thanks. <adds to list of fuck-ups> Oh, and No Child Left Behind and the secret energy plan, too. :D
or you can just list everything by saying EVERYTHING HE DOES EVERYTHING HE THINKS EVERYTHING HE FEELS EVERYTHING HE LOOKS AT CAN FEEL THE HATE--Bush is the purest potency of evil. The literal FACE OF EVIL
PersonalHappiness
05-09-2005, 22:08
O, and Marie Antoinette was the last queen of France (she got beheaded)


She was not the last queen. As far as I know, monarchy was reastablished - think of all the Napoleons following...

Ad Bush:
Similarities to Marie Antoinette: super-rich, influential family background, only got the position because of her/his parents, not able to say the right things in the right moments :rolleyes:
Similarities to Nero: wants to write history and even risks the existence of his country for his own fame, Nero spent all his live trying to be better tahn his mommy, George W Bush is trying to top his daddy...

So I bet, Mr. Bush is a mixture. I think, he has little in common with Caligula. While Bush seems to have a rather prudish way of dealing with sexuality and marriage, Caligula married his horse and slept with his sisters... :D :p :D
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 22:16
She was not the last queen. As far as I know, monarchy was reastablished - think of all the Napoleons following...

Ad Bush:
Similarities to Marie Antoinette: super-rich, influential family background, only got the position because of her/his parents, not able to say the right things in the right moments :rolleyes:
Similarities to Nero: wants to write history and even risks the existence of his country for his own fame, Nero spent all his live trying to be better tahn his mommy, George W Bush is trying to top his daddy...

So I bet, Mr. Bush is a mixture. I think, he has little in common with Caligula. While Bush seems to have a rather prudish way of dealing with sexuality and marriage, Caligula married his horse and slept with his sisters... :D :p :D
I thought he married his sister and slept with the horse?
Jah Bootie
05-09-2005, 22:44
Well he managed to match the fiddler twice no less.

At least he isn't Caligula,
I'll say. I saw the movie and I'm really not interested in seeing Bush's weiner.
Casimir Poseiden
05-09-2005, 22:46
I'll say. I saw the movie and I'm really not interested in seeing Bush's weiner.
Im sure he has an inny--thats why hes called Bush ;)
PersonalHappiness
05-09-2005, 22:48
I think there must have been laws against marrying one's sister. But on the other hand - what about laws against marrying horses and by the way, he was emperor and allowed to do whatever he felt like. The only thing I know for sure is that the horse finally became senator... :D
Domici
05-09-2005, 22:52
There is NO way that we as a nation could have prepared for this kind of devestation. Yes, we could have tried to beef up the levies, but i doubt that that would help, because there, as far as i know, There is no way to beef up catagory 3 levies up to catagory 4-5 in the amount of time that they had.

Well I suppose that this is consistent with the philosophy that Laura Bush presented on stem cell research.

It might not work, so why even try.

The work was underway to fix those levees, but Bush cut the funding for it because he wanted to pay for his tax cuts and his war.
Anarchic Christians
05-09-2005, 22:57
So when exactly did the Greek Gods (the Olympians (http://www.hol.gr/greece/olymp.htm)) suddenly surmount the Roman (http://www.crystalinks.com/romegods.html) Gods?

The Romans basically borrowed the Greek gods. They believed the whole Mount Olympus=Home of the Gods so they basically worshipped the Olympian Gods.

Zeus=Jupiter
Mars=Aries
etc.
Shingogogol
06-09-2005, 00:33
Marie "let them eat cake"

Nero was : "fiddling while rome burns at home"


uh, well, given that the US is an empire and
has been for the last 100 years +,


and the last 3 years saw a decrease in federal budget disaster
aid money....including for the #1 biggest risk, N.O.,

Was Marie going to war at the time?


um...,
remember,
'there is no honor in empire'.
never was, never will be
Casimir Poseiden
06-09-2005, 00:45
I think there must have been laws against marrying one's sister. But on the other hand - what about laws against marrying horses and by the way, he was emperor and allowed to do whatever he felt like. The only thing I know for sure is that the horse finally became senator... :D
I wish this horse would be President of America--he would be much better then Bush I KNOW it

*btw did this horse have a name?
Muravyets
06-09-2005, 06:17
Marie Antoinette was the last queen of France (she got beheaded)

Marie Antoinette was the last king's mistress. Not even queen, just the king's bint.

BTW, on MSNBC tonight, anchor Keith Olberman referred to Bush and his constant use of the (royal?) "we" (as in "we are not satisfied") as sounding like "a 21st century Marie Antoinette." :D
Lyric
06-09-2005, 06:23
In this latest wingnut talking point scenario (blame Blanco and Nagin primarily), everyone has personal responsibility except George Bush.

It assumes that Mr Bush has no primary responsibility in this whatsoever, and that he's basically elected and paid (on the order of $250K every year) to do, well, nothing.

This fantasy basically ignores the fact that Bush has been president for the last 4.5 years, along with all the attendant decisions he's made that affected emergency preparedness and prevention.

This worldview also assumes that Mr. Bush had a hand in finally getting the needed supplies to the people in need, rather than simply using the arrival of help as a photo op.

What it comes down to, though, is this: George Bush stayed on vacation, going on golf outings and political fundraisers/speeches, playing guitar, eating cake, clearing brush at his fake ranch, falling off his bike etc., while a known national disaster scenario was unfolding. Most Americans rightfully believe it is the federal government's job, led by the President, to deal with disasters this huge. And they see a President who didn't give a damn until the political heat was on.

Compared with the protection of lives, obscure wingnut philosophies about the rightful role of the federal government ring a tad hollow. The out-of-touch and crassly indifferent nature of Bush asslickers is once again visible for all to see.

Is Bush Marie Antoinette or Nero? Neither. He's King Sadim. Reverse Midas. Everything Bush touches turns into a great big pile of shit. I'd sure like to think Bush would suffer Marie's fate, though!
Romanore
06-09-2005, 06:30
Is Bush Marie Antoinette or Nero? Neither. He's King Sadim. Reverse Midas. Everything Bush touches turns into a great big pile of shit. I'd sure like to think Bush would suffer Marie's fate, though!

*huggle for Lyric*

I'd prod you for this post, but I'm not gonna act stupid. Love ya, sis. :fluffle:

(Btw, when did you get back from Forumban?)
Muravyets
06-09-2005, 06:31
our minds are one on this--the Bush litter all thru the aeons aer the aristocracy of the "soulless ones"

You got it, Cas. May I call you Cas? You can call me Murray. ;)

First the father, now the son, and who here thinks they don't want Jeb to be the third? These aren't presidents -- they're wannabe kings trying to establish a hereditary dynasty, and they've all got the same smug, condescending, elitist, "let them eat cake" attitude -- though they've got a lot of nerve acting superior to anyone, the lowlife trash. Disgusting.

Well, I'm sorry (and apologies to our British friends) but we fought a revolution precisely to get rid of losers like these, and I happen to own a red, white and blue ass they can kiss.
Casimir Poseiden
06-09-2005, 06:42
Is Bush Marie Antoinette or Nero? Neither. He's King Sadim. Reverse Midas. Everything Bush touches turns into a great big pile of shit. I'd sure like to think Bush would suffer Marie's fate, though!
you have a beautiful mind
Casimir Poseiden
06-09-2005, 06:46
You got it, Cas. May I call you Cas? You can call me Murray. ;)

First the father, now the son, and who here thinks they don't want Jeb to be the third? These aren't presidents -- they're wannabe kings trying to establish a hereditary dynasty, and they've all got the same smug, condescending, elitist, "let them eat cake" attitude -- though they've got a lot of nerve acting superior to anyone, the lowlife trash. Disgusting.

Well, I'm sorry (and apologies to our British friends) but we fought a revolution precisely to get rid of losers like these, and I happen to own a red, white and blue ass they can kiss.
its highly fitting that Bush is the descendant of King George--its actually like a reincarnation--no wonder he hates the french
[NS]Antre_Travarious
06-09-2005, 07:26
This is an idiotic thread.
Muravyets
06-09-2005, 15:55
its highly fitting that Bush is the descendant of King George--its actually like a reincarnation--no wonder he hates the french

everybody needs an excuse. :p
Zagat
07-09-2005, 06:30
Marie Antoinette was the last king's mistress. Not even queen, just the king's bint.

No, that is absolutely false...

...whatever made you imagine such a thing? :confused:
CanuckHeaven
07-09-2005, 06:34
he would look stunning in a shepardess outfit.
You are baaaaaaaaaad. :)
Lyric
07-09-2005, 06:45
*huggle for Lyric*

I'd prod you for this post, but I'm not gonna act stupid. Love ya, sis. :fluffle:

(Btw, when did you get back from Forumban?)

I was never on Forumban. Why did you think I was?
Muravyets
07-09-2005, 07:19
No, that is absolutely false...

...whatever made you imagine such a thing? :confused:
You're right; I'm wrong. I was thinking of Madame de Pompadour.

I apologize to Marie Antoinette for calling her a bint, but the rest of her reputation still suits Bush very well.
Zagat
07-09-2005, 07:23
You're right; I'm wrong. I was thinking of Madame de Pompadour.

I apologize to Marie Antoinette for calling her a bint, but the rest of her reputation still suits Bush very well.
Well that's a relief.....I was seriously starting to wonder what passed for history classes in locale... ;)
Muravyets
07-09-2005, 17:08
Well that's a relief.....I was seriously starting to wonder what passed for history classes in locale... ;)
If I relied on my public school education, I wouldn't know what any of you were talking about. Thank god for the internet and the printing press. :rolleyes: