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If we're going to ***** and moan about Gender Equality, then Woman should be made on the Front Line. If they meet the Requirements, then yes, we should put them on the front line. Does anyone disagree?

I don't disagree. I second the motion.

It's not a motion, eh?

I agree they should they have the rights and 1 women can beat out a man anytime I guess they probably have better aim

I disagree. I think several women should be allowed on the front line, not just one.

<Sarcasm> But we don't want to see our daisys coming back in body bags. </Sarcasm> <not Sarcasm> And plus the men will hit on them and act stupidly to save them in combat </not Sarcasm>

Anyways, im for it.

If women want a career where they can get killed like men do, let them.
Give them a few contraceptives to stop them having unwanted kids if need to (I'm sure some Right-wingers will object to this suggestion).

They should definitely allow women in combat roles, and on the front line. I met a girl last week who has wanted to be a sniper for a long time, but she can't. She has to settle for military intelligence, because the Army won't let her fight, since she's a woman.

Right-wingers, Catholics aside, don't object to contraceptives. Anything that prevents conception doesn't destroy a life in the minds of pro-lifers

Anyway, I'm a woman and I'm very lazy and weak and short, so please don't make me go shoot guns at bad guys on the front lines. There's no way I'm hiking ten miles when I have cramps. You can all kiss my ass.

I think they should definately be allowed in combat, but I think that the units should be segragated between gender. Guys don't know how to act around women these days as it is, now imagine a horny soldier out in the field who hasn't seen a woman for months. Some shit is going to go down. An all woman unit would kick major ass though.

<Sarcasm> But we don't want to see our daisys coming back in body bags. </Sarcasm> <not Sarcasm> And plus the men will hit on them and act stupidly to save them in combat </not Sarcasm>

Anyways, im for it.


Well, suppose you've got a point there! But still, I'm sick and tired of being thought of as the 'fairer sex'. I am, always was and always will be a total tom boy. I have more scars and a thicker emergency room file than any other guy I know. I don't see why women should be 'protected' from the horrors of the front line.

But like Exomnia says, if it means that some guy takes a bullet and dies because of me on the front line, then what's the point in even debating this issue?

An all woman unit would kick major ass though.

Exactly. Some people say "fight like a girl" as if it's a bad thing. However, with a man, all you get is punched and kicked. With a woman, you get punched (with large rings), kicked with high heels - IN PLACES A MAN SHOULD NOT BE KICKED, slapped, eye-gouged, scratched, bitten et cetera.

It's a generalization, but one that generally holds true.

So, yeah, go all-women battalions. Scrap the nuclear missile.

Anyway, I'm a woman and I'm very lazy and weak and short, so please don't make me go shoot guns at bad guys on the front lines. There's no way I'm hiking ten miles when I have cramps. You can all kiss my ass.

No one mentioned FORCING you to go. Its a discussion of whether those women who want to go should be allowed to do so.

P.S. I'm for it as I believe that women should be allowed to do so if they want to.
However I would also like to point out that an all female battalion will not stop all sexual harassment or even all consensual sexual activity. It would probably cut down on gawking though. :eek:

Exactly. Some people say "fight like a girl" as if it's a bad thing. However, with a man, all you get is punched and kicked. With a woman, you get punched (with large rings), kicked with high heels - IN PLACES A MAN SHOULD NOT BE KICKED, slapped, eye-gouged, scratched, bitten et cetera.

It's a generalization, but one that generally holds true.

So, yeah, go all-women battalions. Scrap the nuclear missile.

LOL, my sister still has the cat scratch scars I gave her when we were kids. Unfortunately, I still have the bite scars she gave me...

She hit me over the head with a tennis racquet once. That hurt...

Right-wingers, Catholics aside, don't object to contraceptives. Anything that prevents conception doesn't destroy a life in the minds of pro-lifers

Anyway, I'm a woman and I'm very lazy and weak and short, so please don't make me go shoot guns at bad guys on the front lines. There's no way I'm hiking ten miles when I have cramps. You can all kiss my ass.

We're talking about voluntary service here. Women who want to be in the front line.

I agree. If women want to want to be bullet-catchers alongside the men, and they meet the physical requirements, they should be allowed.

I would personally go further and say that, if (non-specific-possibly-existant-deity/deities forbid) we ever got to a point where conscription was reintroduced, young women should be conscripted and forced to fight and die the same as young men.

VERY few women will meet the same physical requirements are men are expected to normally achieve. That said, there are combat roles that arguably don't require high levels of fitness oand stength; women should be allowed in those.
But for the roles that do, why should the force weaken itself to accomodate "equality"? Men and Women are not equal: on average, men are stronger.

VERY few women will meet the same physical requirements are men are expected to normally achieve. That said, there are combat roles that arguably don't require high levels of fitness oand stength; women should be allowed in those.
But for the roles that do, why should the force weaken itself to accomodate "equality"? Men and Women are not equal: on average, men are stronger.

Well, the question is whether a woman that meets the requirements should be allowed to be on the front line.

Oh, and by the way, Australia's looking to consider this. Not full-on front line YET ('twas on the news a few weeks ago), but I personally believe it's a step in the right direction. In my view, women have long been underestimated.

My personal view is that if they choose to, and they meet the requirements, then there is absolutely no reason why women should not be allowed to fight.

My personal view is that if they choose to, and they meet the requirements, then there is absolutely no reason why women should not be allowed to fight.Why if they choose? Do men get to choose where they get sent once they enlist for army service? I think not. If women are to be allowed in combat roles, those that are deemed physically eligable should be required to serve in the front line when they're needed.

I agree. Few men have the physcial and mental stamina to handle front line infantry duty, the number are less than 1 in 10. Very few women have the physical and mental stamina to handle frontline infantry duty, less than 1 in 100.

Its not any better being a member of the Cav either.

What front line duty is is spending weeks sleeping in holes in the dirt, going weeks without a shower, living for weeks out of what you can carry on your back. Its getting 4 hours of sleep a night, its never knowing when the next attack is coming, or where you are going until you get there, or even when your next hot meal is.

All that being said, i have met women who I would take into combat, but they are the minority.

They should definitely allow women in combat roles, and on the front line. I met a girl last week who has wanted to be a sniper for a long time, but she can't. She has to settle for military intelligence, because the Army won't let her fight, since she's a woman.

WTF women are the best snipers.

Why if they choose? Do men get to choose where they get sent once they enlist for army service? I think not. If women are to be allowed in combat roles, those that are deemed physically eligable should be required to serve in the front line when they're needed.

Every one who enlists in the US armed forces gets to chose thier jobs. Just because you meet the qualifications for a job, it doesn't mean that you have to do it.

some germanic women made great worriors, however there must be a practicle reason why only men went to war, but they are not built for killing people, though its not difficult these days cos the baddies are always poorly equipt and badly trained and are up against "state of the art" weapons, so children would be just as good on the front line, possibly better than american soldiers by a long shot, infact why cant we lower the age to jion the army how bout "should children be on the front line" thread theres no reason why sixteen and twelve should be any different when it comes to mentally preparing yourself to kill someone

let alone being a women

If women want to fight on the front line, let them. If gay people want to join the military, let them. Just make sure there's still ways to get out of the draft. Gender equality has made me a wee bit paranoid that they might draft me if this war gets out of hand. I guess that's progress, but I'll be a consciencious objector or plead insanity if they do draft me!!

wag1 ppl

r there any ladies inthis game?

Why if they choose? Do men get to choose where they get sent once they enlist for army service? I think not. If women are to be allowed in combat roles, those that are deemed physically eligable should be required to serve in the front line when they're needed.

Instead of making front line service compulsory for everyone, why not solve the problem by making those who VOTE for war (and their children) serve on the front line, along with any other military that CHOOSES to fight on the front line. If you advocate the war, you have to volunteer for the front line.

Betcha wars would be significantly reduced, if not entirely eliminated.

infact why cant we lower the age to jion the army how bout "should children be on the front line" thread theres no reason why sixteen and twelve should be any different when it comes to mentally preparing yourself to kill someone

Yes, yes lets screw up even younger people for life. No one should have to kill someone!! No one, man woman child or old person can possibly be mentally prepared for that. War is horrible no matter who's fighting it.

wag1 ppl

r there any ladies inthis game?Didn't you get a 3-day forumban?

wag1 ppl

r there any ladies inthis game?

Of course, quite a few, actually.

Instead of making front line service compulsory for everyone, why not solve the problem by making those who VOTE for war (and their children) serve on the front line, along with any other military that CHOOSES to fight on the front line. If you advocate the war, you have to volunteer for the front line.

Betcha wars would be significantly reduced, if not entirely eliminated.
My thoughts exactly! Send Bush to fight his own damn war!!!

Every one who enlists in the US armed forces gets to chose thier jobs. Just because you meet the qualifications for a job, it doesn't mean that you have to do it.


They will try to get you in the job you want but they will move you any where they see fit. I have known many people from the us armed forces and very few of them actualy got the job they picked.
And you HAVE to do what ever job they tell you to. You agree to that when you sign up.

Yes, yes lets screw up even younger people for life. No one should have to kill someone!! No one, man woman child or old person can possibly be mentally prepared for that. War is horrible no matter who's fighting it.

oh yeah

WTF women are the best snipers.
bollox do they make good snipers they have to keep still for days without fidgeting, :eek: ---------------------- :sniper:

They will try to get you in the job you want but they will move you any where they see fit. I have known many people from the us armed forces and very few of them actualy got the job they picked.
And you HAVE to do what ever job they tell you to. You agree to that when you sign up.That's what I thought....I'm just saying that woment shouldn't be allowed to say "no thanks" once they've been chosen, assigned, whatever. You can't have your cake and eat it.

My thoughts exactly! Send Bush to fight his own damn war!!!


woop woop

bollox do they make good snipers they have to keep still for days without fidgeting, :eek: ---------------------- :sniper:

exactly, women have way more patience and don't need to scratch their crotch every 10 minutes.

exactly, women have way more patience and don't need to scratch their crotch every 10 minutes.

how would they know who to shoot first?

theyll shoot all the wrong people cos they look funny

No, thats Americans

how do you know that girlies make good snipers then?

3/4 of the world's snipers are women. I'll see if I can find the source

I, as a man, have no problem with women fighting in front line units, so long as they can do the job well. Tell me if it's just me, but I wouldn't want a complete bitch in my unit, moaning all the time (this is an isolated case, and does not reflect the female species as a whole)... I wouldn't be able to do my job.

A true woman knows that killing :sniper: other people because its your job and your told that they're lives are worth less than others, is a very sick thing to do. :gundge:


I dont know why man cant seem to get that point.
:headbang:

But i say let all wars be fought over with computer games instead.

Let love rule :fluffle:

I don't know about front-line units, but either the US or Irael tried an all female crew on a destroyer once. The result was criticaly reduced effectiveness due to the crew's in ability to function well socialy in that environment, if I remember correctly.

This was a while ago, and I'm gonna go check my facts.

*vomit*

A true woman knows that killing :sniper: other people because its your job and your told that they're lives are worth less than others, is a very sick thing to do. :gundge:


I dont know why man cant seem to get that point.
:headbang:

But i say let all wars be fought over with computer games instead.

Let love rule :fluffle:

Whist I detest your overuse of smilies, I must agree with the point you made at the end i.e computer game war.

No more killing, just pwning. Woo!

im all for women bing able to go to the front line or b snipers :sniper: lol and if were lucky the enemywont b used to them and to busy gawking to defend themselves lol

im all for women bing able to go to the front line or b snipers :sniper: lol and if were lucky the enemywont b used to them and to busy gawking to defend themselves lol

Did you just "lol" yourself?

I agree. Women should be allowed on the front lines of combat.

Indeed, I think women should be required to register for the military draft, the same as young men. (Of course, I also hope we never wind up with a draft again.)

of course women should be allowed fight on the front lines.they've undergone the same training so they're just as able to fight on the front lines as any man

1) sticking a woman with some horny guys in a trench isn't a good idea

2) Men are naturally stronger than women so gender segregated groups would always have the men achieving the most

3) if there was another draft we would need people to fill in the missing jobs

4) female culture means there are less female recruits

5) we guys will do stupid things to impress them

6) its gentlemanly to sacrifice your life for a woman

7) soldiers will value the life of there partners over the life of other soldiers

Women are, in general, simpley not as agressive as men are. Therefore the British army refused to put them on the front lines. Its not a case of gender facisim as some would have it, since many women were part of the group that took this decision.