NationStates Jolt Archive


Investigate the guard? Hell with that, investigate the AP

Teh_pantless_hero
04-09-2005, 02:34
Of course, guard response was poor (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_national_guard), but the AP and other news organisations wasn't. They had people there interviewing people and surveying the damage, in New Orleans and the much ignored Mississippi. But really, what the hell are these people doing?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_mississippi_hk2

Gibbs and his wife, Holly, have been stuck at their flooded home in Gulfport just off the Biloxi River. Water comes up to the second floor, they are out of gasoline, and food supplies are running perilously low.
Why are these people still there? You can cram a couple extra people in an ambulance, can't you? Why didn't the dicks interviewing take them off with them? Good job, you got their name in the news, now haul them back to civilization and let them get a taxi.
Tactical Grace
04-09-2005, 03:56
The journalist is only an observer, never a participant.

It is a strict code of professional ethics.

And yes, ethics without irony. If they were to act thus in the US, why not Bosnia or Iraq? The impartiality disappears, and that is playing dangerous politics.
Lotus Puppy
04-09-2005, 04:00
My friend, any subjectivity in reporting is bad. It leads to such things as Rathergate.
Teh_pantless_hero
04-09-2005, 04:00
The journalist is only an observer, never a participant.

It is a strict code of professional ethics.

And yes, ethics without irony. If they were to act thus in the US, why not Bosnia or Iraq? The impartiality disappears, and that is playing dangerous politics.
Wern't those war zones? Wern't those places were people were in their livable homes or people working there that had to be there? Seems to me to be a totally different situation from a natural disaster area where people are dieing because shit isn't getting done and they are stuck there without food, water, or medication to say the least.
Gun toting civilians
04-09-2005, 05:05
The journalist is only an observer, never a participant.

It is a strict code of professional ethics.

And yes, ethics without irony. If they were to act thus in the US, why not Bosnia or Iraq? The impartiality disappears, and that is playing dangerous politics.

Thats how a reporter should act, but hasn't been that way with american journalist for a long, long time.
[NS]Antre_Travarious
04-09-2005, 05:14
Why didn't the dicks interviewing take them off with them? Good job, you got their name in the news, now haul them back to civilization and let them get a taxi.
Perhaps it was a phone interview. I know that phone coverage is sketchy, but I have heard several inteviews with people who are stuck in thier homes, but still have phone. (How, I don't know).
Stinky Head Cheese
04-09-2005, 05:19
Of course, guard response was poor (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_national_guard), but the AP and other news organisations wasn't. They had people there interviewing people and surveying the damage, in New Orleans and the much ignored Mississippi. But really, what the hell are these people doing?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_mississippi_hk2


Why are these people still there? You can cram a couple extra people in an ambulance, can't you? Why didn't the dicks interviewing take them off with them? Good job, you got their name in the news, now haul them back to civilization and let them get a taxi.
I bet you are one of the ones who said the reporter shouldn't get involved when the republicans were demanding that the reporters who were interviewing homocide bombers and terrorists should turn them in to the police to save lives. :rolleyes:
Lotus Puppy
04-09-2005, 05:35
I bet you are one of the ones who said the reporter shouldn't get involved when the republicans were demanding that the reporters who were interviewing homocide bombers and terrorists should turn them in to the police to save lives. :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, but I can't respect anyone on the left that makes those sort of comments. The left is a safe haven for media subjectivity. They use the FCC and the "corporatization of media" to report with obvious slants. Rathergate would not exist without you guys. Neither would the Supreme Court decision that forced Matt Cooper to turn in his sources for a high level leak, making every journalist scared. The right have some issues, too, but at least they have the decency to reserve most of their slanted comments to where they belong: as commentary and punditry, not actual reporting.
Dobbsworld
04-09-2005, 05:40
So you'd have been happier if the media had ignored the story? Or are you simply jealous of the media's ability to rapidly deploy itself... in light of such protracted inter-governmental inability to do same?
Lotus Puppy
04-09-2005, 05:43
So you'd have been happier if the media had ignored the story? Or are you simply jealous of the media's ability to rapidly deploy itself... in light of such protracted inter-governmental inability to do same?
You actually have a point, there. Ever heard of the Emergency Broadcast System? Local TV stations use it all the time for weather alerts. Anyhow, it was meant for telling the public of an attack on the US. It was never activated on 9/11, the most the US was attacked since the EBS began. It didn't need to. The media was on it in seconds.
Dobbsworld
04-09-2005, 05:53
You actually have a point, there. Ever heard of the Emergency Broadcast System? Local TV stations use it all the time for weather alerts. Anyhow, it was meant for telling the public of an attack on the US. It was never activated on 9/11, the most the US was attacked since the EBS began. It didn't need to. The media was on it in seconds.
I must be slipping...
Teh_pantless_hero
04-09-2005, 16:54
I bet you are one of the ones who said the reporter shouldn't get involved when the republicans were demanding that the reporters who were interviewing homocide bombers and terrorists should turn them in to the police to save lives. :rolleyes:
And I bet you are just looking for reasons to not like people?
Jah Bootie
04-09-2005, 17:03
Of course, guard response was poor (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_national_guard), but the AP and other news organisations wasn't. They had people there interviewing people and surveying the damage, in New Orleans and the much ignored Mississippi. But really, what the hell are these people doing?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_mississippi_hk2


Why are these people still there? You can cram a couple extra people in an ambulance, can't you? Why didn't the dicks interviewing take them off with them? Good job, you got their name in the news, now haul them back to civilization and let them get a taxi.
Well, if there were no news crews there, it might be that nobody would come to help at all. You can't go on a reporting mission and a rescue mission at the same time.
Jah Bootie
04-09-2005, 17:05
Not only that, but if you rolled into the city with a helicopter and said "hey, I can take one person" do you think there is a chance that helicopter would get off of the ground?