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Ok, if these were your only choices for President of the U.S., which one would you pick? Why?

Gonna have to go with any republican because the other choices just scare me.

I would bet that Martha’s life experiences have made her pretty libertarian., but there is no way to know that for sure. She could be a rich socialist. At least she isn’t tied to a neo-con agenda like Republicans.

Vote Martha!

Hillary all the way!

Because it would be hilarious as the conservatives hate her so. Oprah, being a black woman, for the same reason.

Choice E: None of the above.

none of them know how to connect with your average citizen. they are all either rich, a politician, or both. they line their own pockets and leave the working class struggling to survive.

Vote Martha!

Aren't criminals excluded from running?

Opera? We have a musical style running for president?

Sure, I'll vote for my web browser!

www.opera.com

Thats the holy trinity of hell right there. I'm forced to choose any republicans. Oprah as president *shudder*

I would bet that Martha’s life experiences have made her pretty libertarian., but there is no way to know that for sure. She could be a rich socialist. At least she isn’t tied to a neo-con agenda like Republicans.

Vote Martha!

Are you sure? After all, she is a Capitalist. :eek:

Aren't criminals excluded from running?
It’s a hypothetical. Like Opera would run. She can’t have half the country hating her. She’s a TV personality.

Gotta go with Hillary. I detest her, but I'm scared of what Oprah might do with power, I equally detest Martha(plus she's rather libertarian, major minus in my book), and I can't vote Republican.

So Hillary it is. You know what, don't bother having an election. I say Hillary, let's just go with that, k?

Choice E: None of the above.

none of them know how to connect with your average citizen. they are all either rich, a politician, or both. they line their own pockets and leave the working class struggling to survive.

So, whom would you suggest? Oh, please make it someone who might have a chance of winning.

Are you sure? After all, she is a Capitalist. :eek:
And that is a good thing.

Opera? We have a musical style running for president?

Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen,
Tot und Verzweiflung flammet um mich her!

Hells' Revenge cooks in my heart
Death and despair flame about me!

It fits!

Aren't criminals excluded from running?

Probably, but is this a serious thread?

Oprah! She's fun, she's fiesty, and she's ready to help America feel poor compared to her billions! No really, it's almost comforting to think about how rich she is.
Martha Stewart would be okay, but she's a bitch. Ditto for Hillary, though she has the decency not to act too perfect.

And that is a good thing.

*begins to debate - AGAIN - capitalism v socialism*
Oh yea, well I say...
*decides it's not worth it*

:p

Given the options, Martha Stewart seems the obvious choice.

I can't vote Republican.

Why not? It is quite easy. All you have to do is make sure the X is in the proper box, or the "chad" is not left hanging.

I'll bet you could vote for Rudy or John.

It’s a hypothetical. Like Opera would run. She can’t have half the country hating her. She’s a TV personality.

Some people think half the country hated George but that didn't keep him from running and winning. :D

I'm for none of the above.... they all suck.

Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen,
Tot und Verzweiflung flammet um mich her!

Hells' Revenge cooks in my heart
Death and despair flame about me!

It fits!

Thanks for the translation Fass, and welcome to this discussion.

Gotta go with Hillary. I detest her, but I'm scared of what Oprah might do with power, I equally detest Martha(plus she's rather libertarian, major minus in my book), and I can't vote Republican.

So Hillary it is. You know what, don't bother having an election. I say Hillary, let's just go with that, k?
terrifying.
I broke out in hives late last October for fear of Kerry actually winning. This time it's worse I am having Hillary nightmares. Seeing support for her on here isn't helping. Gotta go to the store and stock up on Benadryl before the hives start up again. :(

Why not? It is quite easy. All you have to do is make sure the X is in the proper box, or the "chad" is not left hanging.

I'll bet you could vote for Rudy or John.

Guilliani? Maybe.... just maybe.

John McCain? Hell no. He looks like a centrist/moderate, but in reality he's right winger to the core.

I mean of course I *can* vote for a republican, but then I'd probably have to beat myself for doing that to the nation and the world. :p

Oprah! She's fun, she's fiesty, and she's ready to help America feel poor compared to her billions! No really, it's almost comforting to think about how rich she is.
Martha Stewart would be okay, but she's a bitch. Ditto for Hillary, though she has the decency not to act too perfect.

At least with Martha there might be some good meals served at the White House. With Opera it might be all salads, and who knows what Hillary would serve.

At least with Martha there might be some good meals served at the White House. With Opera it might be all salads, and who knows what Hillary would serve.

What does that have to do with anything ?



If anyone, i would vote for Rudi.

At least with Martha there might be some good meals served at the White House. With Opera it might be all salads, and who knows what Hillary would serve.
Bill's head?

At least with Martha there might be some good meals served at the White House. With Opera it might be all salads, and who knows what Hillary would serve.
Bill’s testicles?

Bill's head?
We replied at the same exact time! :eek:

Mine was better.

Guilliani? Maybe.... just maybe.

John McCain? Hell no. He looks like a centrist/moderate, but in reality he's right winger to the core.

I mean of course I *can* vote for a republican, but then I'd probably have to beat myself for doing that to the nation and the world. :p

Funny, you see McCain as a closet right-winger and I see him as an outright leftist. Maybe, just maybe he is a centrist.

Bill's head?

ROFLAMO. :D

I would say Hillary but then I remembered that's she's hooked with Jack Thompson and is out to get Video Games so Screw her.

Bill’s testicles?4

No, that wouldn't be served in the White House if Martha won, but if Hillary won...maybe. :D

Opera? We have a musical style running for president?
Indeed, go Secretary of State Richard Wagner! :D

Yea! Any Republican is ahead and could win over any Democrat. Looks like 08 will be a great year unless Ross decides to run on the Independant ticket.

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No, that wouldn't be served in the White House if Martha won, but if Hillary won...maybe. :D
That’s what I was saying. You know she’s been aging them for years now. ‘Tis why that whole intern thing was a scam.

Undeniable Proof:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/election98/hc16.jpg
Here, in this picture from 1992, we see that Hillary has already revoked Bill’s manhood privileges, thus proving that he could not have had an affair with Monica.

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That’s what I was saying. You know she’s been aging them for years now. ‘Tis why that whole intern thing was a scam.

Undeniable Proof:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/election98/hc16.jpg
Here, in this picture from 1992, we see that Hillary has already revoked Bill’s manhood privileges, thus proving that he could not have had an affair with Monica.

Ha! You win this thread.

I assumed that you meant "Oprah", and voted accordingly.

If you mean actual Opera, that gets my vote:

I wouldn't mind music from La Boheme, the Magic Flute or Faust replacing that often godawful marching music they blare whenever the president's around.

If you mean Oprah, hell no.

I hereby reserve the right to abstain from voting as I feel none of the aformentioned candidates are qualified to serve as president.

TRANSLATION: I ain't voting because it's pretty much a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwitch.

I chose Opera because A) I'm Canadian, so my vote don't count. B) I'd really rather vote for Milkman Dan (http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/2005-07-12/index.html) from Red Meat (http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/). He'd make an awesome prez.

Hillary :D

1) She's a Clinton-all Republicans would do their nut
2) She's a Clinton-all chavanits would do their nut
3) She's a Clinton-Ken Starr would do his nut
4) Sure why not? She can't be worse than Bush
5) Bill would be First Lady :D hee hee

Martha Stewart would fix the white house up and increase the property value. I vote Martha.

Aren't criminals excluded from running?

DWI Bush ran, so apparently not.

Martha Stewart would fix the white house up and increase the property value. I vote Martha.


Its a national and international landmark...in DC where property will cost you your soul, your kids and your mother. You can't have a jail bird as President...I know Politicans are corrupt but she was caught out...most politicans haven't :D

Its a national and international landmark...in DC where property will cost you your soul, your kids and your mother. You can't have a jail bird as President...I know Politicans are corrupt but she was caught out...most politicans haven't :D
We need a president who knows how to get things done. Martha can get any number of things done, from growing her own rare tulip breeds to building a decorative diorama from cigarettes won in a jailhouse card game.

We need a president who knows how to get things done. Martha can get any number of things done, from growing her own rare tulip breeds to building a decorative diorama from cigarettes won in a jailhouse card game.

Ah but so can Hillary...and she lets her husband cheat on her.....Martha doesn't have a husband...in her own words....shes' happy using herself'. Ii apologise for any gross images I have put into unsuspecting NSers minds :eek: :D

I vote Republican because the other three are the trifecta from Hell!

What does everybody have against Martha Stewart? I have no problem with the old broad. She's taken what she does well and built a business empire out of it.

Oh, it was Hillary. I thought it said Hilton, as in Paris.

Im not sure which is worse.

DWI Bush ran, so apparently not.
ah but a DWI is a misdemenor. Martha is a convicted felon. Felons can't vote so one would assume they can't hold office. but it is dangerous to assume. I'm gonna have to look it up.

This is one election I might just avoid. I don't think Martha and Oprah, however talented, are qualified for the job. Neither has any sort of political experience. Hillary has political experience and she's very intelligent, but she's practically a card-carrying communist. Since I like the free market, Hillary and I stand at odds. I was tempted to say "any Republican" with the hope that the Republican would be Ron Paul-esque. (You know, libertarian minded.) But just my luck, he'd probably be closer to Trent Lott. So, may I abstain?

ah but a DWI is a misdemenor. Martha is a convicted felon. Felons can't vote so one would assume they can't hold office. but it is dangerous to assume. I'm gonna have to look it up.

I think it's state by state, so, in theory, I think Martha could run. I found several articles to this effect, including one about how LaRouche, a convicted felon and a Democrat presidential candidate, can't even vote for himself.

I'd vote for Jesus!

I think it's state by state, so, in theory, I think Martha could run. I found several articles to this effect, including one about how LaRouche, a convicted felon and a Democrat presidential candidate, can't even vote for himself.
Okay so it turns out there are only 3 requirements
1) natural born
2) at least 35
3) 14 year residency

guess I was right not to assume.

My vote would be cast from Auckland: "Asylum and a side of chips".

What does everybody have against Martha Stewart? I have no problem with the old broad. She's taken what she does well and built a business empire out of it.

And she is cute.

I was tempted to say "any Republican" with the hope that the Republican would be Ron Paul-esque. (You know, libertarian minded.) But just my luck, he'd probably be closer to Trent Lott. So, may I abstain?

No, you may NOT abstain. You must vote under penalty of death. :eek:

A speckled duck.

With a striped herring as a running mate.

Aren't criminals excluded from running?

Actually no, there is no law prohibiting even convicted felons from running. In 1920, Eugene Debbs ran for President while in prison for violating the 1918 Sedition act. Also in the recent election, the old leader of the American Indian Movement ran, even though he is serving a life sentance for murdering 3 FBI officers.

And The Poll Says Any Republican Will Win In The Next Presidential Election.

I would abstain from voting

I would vote for more votes.

I would vote for Gartef.

Ive always wanted to hump a Presidents leg.

I voted for opera, because you spelt oprah wrong.

You missed the best stewart for president, anyways. Shame.

I would vote for Gartef.

Ive always wanted to hump a Presidents leg.


If I was President, I'd hump my own leg.

I voted for opera, because you spelt oprah wrong.

You missed the best stewart for president, anyways. Shame.


My favorite Hebrew?

My favorite Hebrew?

Everyone's favorite hebrew :P

Ok, if these were your only choices for President of the U.S., which one would you pick? Why?

hillary clinton:

1) she won't back down to the republicans or be worried about this democracy-destroying bi-partisan bullshit. that's a huge plus.
2) her husband was the best leader your country has seen since fdr. he belongs in a cabinet position.....can billy take a cabinet position?
3) sure she's rich but a poor person is never going to get in.
4) i think a woman running things might smarten up your foreign policy a bit.
5) she's liberal enough to win in CANADA. 'nuff said.

oprah frightens me as well, martha should still be in jail and republicans are very rarely an intelligent option.

What are Oprah's (I assume that is what "Opera" means) political views? What are her plans?

Funny, you see McCain as a closet right-winger and I see him as an outright leftist. Maybe, just maybe he is a centrist.
How is he such a leftist? Not even most Democrats qualify as being on the left, let alone a Republican like him.

hillary clinton:

1) she won't back down to the republicans or be worried about this democracy-destroying bi-partisan bullshit. that's a huge plus.
2) her husband was the best leader your country has seen since fdr. he belongs in a cabinet position.....can billy take a cabinet position?
3) sure she's rich but a poor person is never going to get in.
4) i think a woman running things might smarten up your foreign policy a bit.
5) she's liberal enough to win in CANADA. 'nuff said.

oprah frightens me as well, martha should still be in jail and republicans are very rarely an intelligent option.

I'm fine with your other opinions, but #2 is really over the top. You're saying that Clinton was better than JFK or Reagan? Feh.

I'm fine with your other opinions, but #2 is really over the top. You're saying that Clinton was better than JFK or Reagan? Feh.

clinton didn't have to deal with the kinds of things that jfk did - a huge civil rights movement or the cuban missile crisis, for example. although i admire much of jfk's movement towards greater racial equality, it wasn't jfk that set this in motion. any other choice given the climate in the early 60's would have led to civil war......he basically just did what anybody would have had to do to stop the country from collapsing and he did it admirably but it does not deserve the praise that is heaped upon him.

i really don't like the way jfk handled the cuban missile crisis at all. the americans began the problem by situating nukes all around russia - in turkey and in europe specifically. jfk wasn't responding to russian aggression here, he was attempting to maintain an upper hand by the americans when the russians moved to maintain the status quo.....which is what he would have been expected to do.....but blatantly ordering the russians not to do something "or else" is completely insane. we dodged a bullet alright, but it was the arrogance of a spoiled brat that thought he could tell everybody else what to do.

his cuba policy is disgusting and has led to 50 years of isolationism, his heavy alcohol use is disturbing considering his finger was on the button more than once, he slept with anyone and everyone he could, etc...

as for reagan....."don't ask me. i'm just the president!". i didn't live through his reign of terror, but his social policies seem to me to have been bordering on uncivilized. he didn't have a goddamn thing to do with the soviet union's collapse. iran-contra. etc. basically, reagan was a front-man like no other.....an actual legitimate actor. the archetypal puppet.

clinton put the economy back in shape, got the mess in israel as close as it's ever come to getting cleaned up and tried to get you guys working towards international consensus in global warming, landmines, chemical weapons, etc. that doesn't mean bad things didn't happen - kosovo, sanctions on iraq, etc - but at least there were some good, progressive things to counteract the bad. not so with most american presidents in recent memory. i think the most unfortunate thing about bush is how he went out of his way to completely negate everything positive that clinton was able to accomplish.....and this, i would suspect, is one of the major reasons why hillary hates him so much.

hillary clinton:

5) she's liberal enough to win in CANADA. 'nuff said. LOL ...but no, really, she's quite conservative compared even to the Liberal Party of Canada. She'd've made a better fit with the old Progressive Conservatives... which means she'd be a Liberal backbencher in today's Parliament. But no-one'd trust her enough to give her a Ministerial Portfolio, or much of a voice in caucus.

Funny thing politics.

LOL ...but no, really, she's quite conservative compared even to the Liberal Party of Canada. She'd've made a better fit with the old Progressive Conservatives... which means she'd be a Liberal backbencher in today's Parliament. But no-one'd trust her enough to give her a Ministerial Portfolio, or much of a voice in caucus.

Funny thing politics.

well, i do agree that a good deal of democrats (particularly southern democrats) really are further right than even the reform party was....and as a canadian that thinks even the liberals are too far right that scares the hell out of me.....

i mean, we're not really anti-american up here despite what you might read. in general, we wish you the best. we're more like the buddy that's worried you're going to have a heart attack if you don't start eating better and i'd say we fear you more than we dislike you......although nobody likes being scared of people they are forced to hang out with all of the time.

i remember reading through election campaigns down there that were attacking kerry for being too liberal and thinking "what the fuck? he's pro-war, pro-free-trade, pro-corporation and against gay marriage. with those views he'd be in the looney right up here. we'd label him as some kind of fascist and completely marginalize him. spouting religion, war and private health care.........bush couldn't even win a nomination in ALBERTA outside maybe an ultra-rural area or two. given your three choices, ralph nader would win up here with a 200 seat majority.".

....and i admit i was exaggerating with the hillary/liberal comparison. her policies do fall in line more with somebody like peter mckay [who is deputy leader of the pcs and was the leader of the old pcs....one of a few old pcs still hanging out in the new party] than with somebody like anne mclellan, who i was originally contemplating.

So, whom would you suggest? Oh, please make it someone who might have a chance of winning.LOL...you think Opera or Martha steward have a chance of Winning?

You need psyquiatric help...pronto!!!

Choice E: None of the above.

none of them know how to connect with your average citizen. they are all either rich, a politician, or both. they line their own pockets and leave the working class struggling to survive.

Welcome to all the Presidents. Anyone who might actually represent the average person is quickly ridiculed by the press, marginalized and eliminated before they can get past the primaries.

clinton didn't have to deal with the kinds of things that jfk did - a huge civil rights movement or the cuban missile crisis, for example. although i admire much of jfk's movement towards greater racial equality, it wasn't jfk that set this in motion. any other choice given the climate in the early 60's would have led to civil war......he basically just did what anybody would have had to do to stop the country from collapsing and he did it admirably but it does not deserve the praise that is heaped upon him.

i really don't like the way jfk handled the cuban missile crisis at all. the americans began the problem by situating nukes all around russia - in turkey and in europe specifically. jfk wasn't responding to russian aggression here, he was attempting to maintain an upper hand by the americans when the russians moved to maintain the status quo.....which is what he would have been expected to do.....but blatantly ordering the russians not to do something "or else" is completely insane. we dodged a bullet alright, but it was the arrogance of a spoiled brat that thought he could tell everybody else what to do.

his cuba policy is disgusting and has led to 50 years of isolationism, his heavy alcohol use is disturbing considering his finger was on the button more than once, he slept with anyone and everyone he could, etc...

as for reagan....."don't ask me. i'm just the president!". i didn't live through his reign of terror, but his social policies seem to me to have been bordering on uncivilized. he didn't have a goddamn thing to do with the soviet union's collapse. iran-contra. etc. basically, reagan was a front-man like no other.....an actual legitimate actor. the archetypal puppet.

clinton put the economy back in shape, got the mess in israel as close as it's ever come to getting cleaned up and tried to get you guys working towards international consensus in global warming, landmines, chemical weapons, etc. that doesn't mean bad things didn't happen - kosovo, sanctions on iraq, etc - but at least there were some good, progressive things to counteract the bad. not so with most american presidents in recent memory. i think the most unfortunate thing about bush is how he went out of his way to completely negate everything positive that clinton was able to accomplish.....and this, i would suspect, is one of the major reasons why hillary hates him so much.

I'm not going to bother answering to this, even if I did, you wouldn't listen anyway.

This is not a fair poll as it leaves out a choice of 'none of above' for those of us not party to either those named and don't go for anyone unseen.. So 'any republican' is out. Why not add 'anyone but these' and that migh have got my vote.

First off on women... Due to fact no woman has ever had to at 18 in us register for draft and probably won't if it reinstated they for that reason are not qualified to be President and thus have as Commander in Chief the authority to get the draft reinstated.. As they have never faced a draft so would not be qualified to call for one then watch drafted men go off to fight while they stay home as women.

I know women serve well in all the military but if you will check the current acitve policies they are still not considered equal to men when it comes to being in an actual combat unit.. Just look at recent uproar over a couple of females getting killed in Iraq. So far only about 40 females have died out of 1800 in Iraq.. and they get all the attention when they get killed also look at all the attention when a female becomse a POW.... How many men got that?

Until US policies on women in military change then they should never be in a position to be Commander in Chief of it.