"Do you like any of these metal bands?" version...5...or something [Archive]

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 02:25

Time to continue the traditional metal banter thread thats been absent for awhile

here we go

(Ignore the numbers I just copied from my audioscrobbler)

Megadeth 83
2 Death 41
3 Children of Bodom 39
3 Demons & Wizards 39
5 Arch Enemy 33
6 Slayer 30
7 Carcass 24
8 Behemoth 23
8 Mayhem 23
10 Testament 22
11 Helloween 19
12 Iced Earth 15
12 Satyricon 15
12 Celtic Frost 15
15 Ensiferum 13
16 Diamond Head 12
17 King Diamond 11
18 Blind Guardian 9
18 Evergrey 9
18 Bathory 9
21 Metal Church 8
21 Wintersun 8
23 Venom 7
23 Judas Priest 7
23 Nile 7
23 Artillery

Sweden1974

03-09-2005, 02:37

Pure Metal

03-09-2005, 02:42

Megadeth
yes. seen twice, dave rocks

Death
don't know

Children of Bodom
not really

Demons & Wizards
yes. schaffer is the man

Arch Enemy
dunno

Slayer
of course

Carcass
think so, haven't heard much

Behemoth
dunno

Mayhem
dunno

Testament
fuck yeah! one of me favourites :)
fluffles for chuck billy

Helloween
used to a lot, not too much nowadays

Iced Earth
ditto - but more so

Satyricon
:confused:

Celtic Frost
got a few songs. me likey

Ensiferum
another :confused:

Diamond Head
not sure

King Diamond
not really

Blind Guardian
in the 'used to like' category

Evergrey
dunno

Bathory
dunno again

Metal Church
good for a laugh, not bad

Wintersun
:confused:

Venom
no.

Judas Priest
suprisingly not, no. don't mind but i think there's better metal out there

Nile
Artillery
both dunno

time to add my own:

Black Sabbath
Cacophony
Alice In Chains
Bolt Thrower
Morbid Angel
Exodus
Heathen
Deftones
Korn
(some) In Flames
Metallica (how could you miss them out dude?)
Crowbar
Pantera
Dark Angel
Sepultura
Pitchshifter
SOAD

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 02:49

I just posted some bands to get us started,I didn't forget Metallica, lol.

Metal Church is awesome. I like to play the beginning of Burial At Sea http://forums.megadeth.com/images/smilies/rasta.gif

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 02:52

And of course Black Sabbath are the fathers of metal.

Pure Metal

03-09-2005, 03:03

I just posted some bands to get us started,I didn't forget Metallica, lol.

Metal Church is awesome. I like to play the beginning of Burial At Sea http://forums.megadeth.com/images/smilies/rasta.gif
ah fair enough :)
and i lost all my metal church when my hard drive died back in may :(
i miss it :(

ah well, a couple more awesome bands before bed:

napalm death
obituary
the haunted
god forbid
tenacious D (they're fucking metal! :D)
destruction
prong
lamb of god (a bit... they get on my nerves after like 2 songs :rolleyes: )
biohazard
fear factory

edit: how could i forget Machine Head :eek:
and iron maiden
and dream theater
and savatage
and hammerfall
......and dragonheart
....and stach & vai...

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 03:07

I also lost all my mp3s in a HD death at the beginning of summer.

I'll try and rip some of my Metal Church CD's and send you some stuff though

Pure Metal

03-09-2005, 03:16

I also lost all my mp3s in a HD death at the beginning of summer.

I'll try and rip some of my Metal Church CD's and send you some stuff though
w00t! thanks :D

losing your music collection is... painful to say the least
that said i should be getting my music back next weekend with a bit of luck - a mate of mine at uni has all my cds, so all i need do is bring the computer there and voilà! i could be sending you stuff ;)

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 03:22

Yeah, I turned on my computer one day and got "Primary HD disk not found"

I was like..."Crap...Nooooooooooooo!"

And I can't even start rebuilding it really because I still haven't gotten a new drive and I'm using this crappy computer for now.

At least I still have my cd's though :)

Now where is Amerigo......

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 04:06

'Ere I am! Ahem...

Megadeth --- Good
2 Death -- Genius
3 Children of Bodom -- Very Good (am plannin on seein them live for the first time this fall)
3 Demons & Wizards -- pretty good
5 Arch Enemy -- searching for more from them, liked what ive heard
6 Slayer -- good
7 Carcass -- same as arch enemy
8 Behemoth -- meh
8 Mayhem -- meh
10 Testament -- Skolnick era \m/... post-Skolnick mediocre at best
11 Helloween -- good
12 Iced Earth -- got a bit bored of it... but still not bad
12 Satyricon -- liked what ive heard, need more
12 Celtic Frost -- very good
15 Ensiferum -- very good
16 Diamond Head -- dunno em
17 King Diamond -- THOSE high pitched squeals get to me
18 Blind Guardian -- very good
18 Evergrey -- am starting to like more... i remmeber you first told me about them and i dint like the first few songs, but ive warmed up to them... might get an album of theirs if i see a good deal
18 Bathory -- need to listen... ive heard good things about them
21 Metal Church -- awesome \m/... shame the original lineup vocalist died recently
21 Wintersun --- dunno
23 Venom -- pretty good... but only because they started black metal... musically not so great... i think
23 Judas Priest -- \m/
23 Nile -- never liked em
23 Artillery --- dunno em

Here's mine...
Pain of Salvation,
Electric Wizard,
Motorhead,
Carpathian Forest,
Accept,
Ambeon,
Amorphis,
At the Gates,
Manowar,
Black Sabbath,
Black Swan,
Blind Guardian,
Bolt Thrower,
Bruce Dickinson,
Cacophony,
Candlemass,
Celtic Frost,
Children of Bodom,
Control Denied,
Dark Angel,
Dark Tranquility,
Death,
Demons & Wizards,
Dragonheart,
Diablo
Eisregen,
Epel Duath
Elvenking,
Ensiferum,
Fates Warning
Finntroll,
Hammerfall
Graveworm
Haggard
Helloween
Dio
Iron Maiden
Joe Satriani
Kataklysm
Mekong Delta
Metallica
Megadeth,
Metal Church
Moonsorrow,
My Dying Bride,
Nightwish,
Necrophagist
Nocturnal Mortum,
Cruachan,
Paradise Lost,
Deep Purple,
Pink Floyd,
Prong
Rage,
Raise Hell,
Rhapsody,
Savatage,
Samael
Scythe,
Scorpions
Sentenced,
Sonata Arctica,
Spiral Architect
Suicidal Tendencies,
Susperia,
Lemuria
Testament,
Trans-Siberian Orchestra,
Therion,
Tiamat,
Dream Theater,
Venom,
Warlock,

PS. See more of my music at www.last.fm/user/caedes

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 04:21

Mine is http://last.fm/user/lastrites (edit-Just remembered that this was already in my sig, lol)

Yeah I saw Everygrey lived and loved em, then I got some of the songs on their site and they didn't seem so great, then I got Recreation Day and I loved that.

And Satyricon, I particularly like the random Dark Medeval Times stuff with the flutes and stuff along with the black metal, heh.

Yeah its too bad about David Wayne, his era stuff is my favorite Metal Church although The Weight Of The World is actually a really good album

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 04:30

The only Metal Church album I have is their self titled and damn is that a good thrash album. I was gonna get Masterpeace, but some bastard outbid me on ebay. (How is Masterpeace by the way, dya know?)

Speaking of thrash. I have only two words... Mekong Delta. It seems to me they are definately one of the best thrash metal bands ever. Their self-titled album is pure genius, rivaling even the thrash masterpieces Kill Em All and The Legacy.

Markreich

03-09-2005, 04:32

http://www.rocktrip.net/imagenes/clasicos/Queensryche/Operation-Mindcrime.jpg

http://www.hasharat.co.il/images/dream_scenes_200.jpg

Concept albums par excellance and the best two metal operas ever.

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 04:36

http://www.rocktrip.net/imagenes/clasicos/Queensryche/Operation-Mindcrime.jpg

http://www.hasharat.co.il/images/dream_scenes_200.jpg

Concept albums par excellance and the best two metal operas ever.
I'm not so keen on Queensryche... but I may yet check them out...

Whereas Dream Theater... I don't like their cocnept albums. Period. And I didn't quite like Dream Theater that much, until I saw them live opening for Maiden... Now I have a new found respected for DT--but I still can't really enjoy listening to any of their albums... They just don't click with me... But I do want to see them live again.

Vittos Ordination

03-09-2005, 05:24

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 05:26

I can't even tell the difference between two death metal songs.
That's because you haven't listened to real death metal.

Vittos Ordination

03-09-2005, 05:32

That's because you haven't listened to real death metal.

I tend to think it is because most of it is derivative and unimaginative.

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 05:36

I tend to think it is because most of it is derivative and unimaginative.
As I said, you most likely haven't heard the real death metal.

It is much more likely you've heard either metalcore or "brutal" death metal--which tends to be crap in my opinion.

Telesto

03-09-2005, 05:38

Heh, I'll just post my Audioscrobbler thing.

http://www.last.fm/user/Kii/

Vittos Ordination

03-09-2005, 05:39

As I said, you most likely haven't heard the real death metal.

It is much more likely you've heard either metalcore or "brutal" death metal--which tends to be crap in my opinion.

You wouldn't happen to have any links to songs that I can find online, would you?

Kanabia

03-09-2005, 05:49

I like...

Megadeth
Slayer
Iced Earth
Nile

Most of them I don't know. I'm not a huge metal person.

And...

napalm death
tenacious D (they're fucking metal! :D)
biohazard
fear factory

Tenacious D metal? hehehe.

Black Sabbath

Hell yes. \m/

Alice In Chains
Deftones
Korn
(some) In Flames
Metallica
Pantera
Sepultura
SOAD

Only the first two Korn albums...and I don't care for anything post-Black album by Metallica much. In Flames also get on my nerves after a while.

Add Kyuss, Monster Magnet, the Melvins, Tool and Machine Head (not their rap-metal stuff, ugh) to my list.

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 09:06

You wouldn't happen to have any links to songs that I can find online, would you?
That is certainly more difficult... There are too few "free samples" of sorts available of death metal bands especially... I could find you some folk and viking metal samples maybe... but other than that... It's pretty hard...

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 09:12

To further add my most revered opinion of bands mentioned here...

Black Sabbath -- \m/
Cacophony -- hell yeah
Alice In Chains -- a bit grungy for my tastes but still ok
Bolt Thrower -- great
Morbid Angel -- dont like
Exodus -- ought to get around to listenin to them...
Heathen -- dunno
Deftones -- bleh
Korn -- at times interesting enough... but still meh
(some) In Flames -- sorta... yeah... i guess... s'alright
Metallica (how could you miss them out dude?) -- Three words... Kill 'Em All
Crowbar --- dunno
Pantera --- meh
Dark Angel -- awesome
Sepultura --- dont see why so many people like them... i tried schizophrenia... but... i just don't see any greatness behind it...
Pitchshifter -- dunno
SOAD -- probably the best nu-metal around (first album is best)

Chellis

03-09-2005, 09:15

I'm a big sonata arctica fan... but not much else of anything listed.

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 09:15

And more of the Great Amerigo's judgements:

napalm death -- bleh
obituary -- bleh
the haunted -- dunno
god forbid -- dunno
tenacious D (they're fucking metal! :D) -- \m/
destruction --- dont remember what they sounded like
prong --- simple as hell, but great billiiards music
lamb of god (a bit... they get on my nerves after like 2 songs :rolleyes: ) -- *vomit*
biohazard -- meh
fear factory -- bleh

BackwoodsSquatches

03-09-2005, 09:19

Black Sabbath you need to lisen to is good and a cult band you now Ozzy Osbourne start the band.

Yes, Sabbath rules.

But Ozzy didnt start it.

That was Toni Iommi, and Geezer Butler.

Ozzy was the last member to join the band Earth, wich became Black Sabbath.

BackwoodsSquatches

03-09-2005, 09:25

Megadeth 83 ..so-so.

2 Death 41 ..heard very little.

3 Children of Bodom 39 ..gay.

3 Demons & Wizards 39 really gay.

5 Arch Enemy 33 ..who?

6 Slayer 30 ..I got nothing but respect for Slayer. I like about half of everything they have done.

7 Carcass 24 ..who?

8 Behemoth 23 ...Not as gay as Demons and Wizards.

8 Mayhem 23 ...meh.

10 Testament 22 ...a handful of songs.

11 Helloween 19 ..same as above.

12 Iced Earth 15 ..meh.

12 Satyricon 15 ..who?

12 Celtic Frost 15 ..old stuff, yes....newer stuff= gay.
15 Ensiferum 13 ..who?

16 Diamond Head 12 ...Holy old school batman! not too shabby.

17 King Diamond 11.... I pefer Mercyful Fate.

18 Blind Guardian 9 ..meh.

18 Evergrey 9 ..who?

18 Bathory 9 ..gay.

21 Metal Church 8 ...handful of tunes.

21 Wintersun 8 ....who?

23 Venom 7 ....very very little.

23 Judas Priest 7 ..all albums up until Stained Class.

23 Nile 7..who?

23 Artillery ...who?

Hysterian

03-09-2005, 09:29

Black Sabbath I like out of that list. Most of them I havent heard but here are some of my favorite bands at the moment:

Disturbed
Drowning Pool
Godsmack
Mudvayne
Rammstein
Pantera
Rob Zombie
Sepultura
and Pink Floyd

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 09:33

Amerigo says:

Disturbed -- gets repetitive so... meh
Drowning Pool -- meh
Godsmack -- heard one song, heard them all... pretty formulaic...
Mudvayne --- bleh
Rammstein -- not too bad
Pantera -- meh
Rob Zombie -- not too bad... white zombie is indeed better
Sepultura -- bleh
and Pink Floyd -- pretty awesome... but not as awesome as a lot of people say

The Similized world

03-09-2005, 09:47

Death
Hell yes!

Children of Bodom
Never heard of them

Demons & Wizards
Never heard of those either

Arch Enemy
Love them

Slayer
Yups. Who doesn't?!

Carcass
Fuck yea!

Behemoth
Again: Fuck yea!

Mayhem
Again again: Fuck yea!

Testament
It's alright. Not a band that will ever make it into my record collection, but they're ok.

Helloween
Sweet nostalgia :)

Iced Earth
Never heard of them

Satyricon
Only recently found out about them. Sounds good, but I haven't got any albums yet.

Celtic Frost
Oh HELL yes!!

Ensiferum
Never heard of them

Diamond Head
Ditto

King Diamond
Arg... Kill the twat

Blind Guardian
They're alright. Not a band that will ever make it into my record collection, but they're ok.

Evergrey
As above. Never struck a cord with me.

Bathory
Yet another kick ass band!

Metal Church
Never heard of them

Wintersun
Ditto

Venom
Hehe, these guys suck. But I have one of their albums.

Judas Priest
Artillery, Iron Maiden, and Judas Priest was what got me turned on to the metal genre. And maybe Sore Throat & Conflict. I love Judas Priest :p

Nile
Never heard of them

Artillery
Look above. Love the band.

Hysterian

03-09-2005, 09:47

yeah, I too like white zombie better. thought I put it in there...oops :headbang:

FurWaif

03-09-2005, 11:26

Answering the original post ...

-Megadeth

Peace Sells :)
(it was better when it was more "naughty" to like it...)

-Death 41

Scream Bloody Gore! Good band, good band.

-Children of Bodom 39

More fun to look at then listen to

-Demons & Wizards

Never heard 'em

-Arch Enemy 33

meh

-Slayer 30

One of my all time top 5

-Carcass 24

Reek, or Symphonies?

-Behemoth 23

The earlier stuff is amazing.

-Mayhem 23

Ick.

-Testament 22

First 2 albums are the best

-Helloween 19

Meh

-Iced Earth 15

Ick

-Satyricon 15

Meh

-Celtic Frost 15

Awesome (except their last one)

-Ensiferum 13

Never heard em

-Diamond Head 12

Meh

-King Diamond 11

Ick

-Blind Guardian 9

I can't recall what they sound like

-Evergrey 9

Never heard 'em

-Bathory 9

Decent

-Metal Church 8

Ick

-Wintersun 8

Never heard 'em

-Venom 7

Good stuff!

-Judas Priest 7

Decent in the right setting with the right mood.

-Nile 7

Ick

-Artillery

Never heard 'em but that sure is old school.

Check out War and Finntroll.
For old-school fun, you need some Possessed, Exodus, and Sodom.

Pure Metal

03-09-2005, 11:28

Only the first two Korn albums...and I don't care for anything post-Black album by Metallica much. In Flames also get on my nerves after a while.

yeah i'm only a fan of Korn up to Issues (number 4 i think).
lets see: Korn, follow the leader (crap), life is peachy, issues... yeah #4 but i don't usually count follow the leader cos its shite

Tenacious D metal? hehehe.
hell yeah! \m/

Sepultura --- dont see why so many people like them... i tried schizophrenia... but... i just don't see any greatness behind it...

try the song Nomad or Territory - it grows on you after a while. it may not be the most incredible music, but god-damn does it have presence, mood, feeling, anger, attitude, whatever you wanna call it - its primal :P

That is certainly more difficult... There are too few "free samples" of sorts available of death metal bands especially... I could find you some folk and viking metal samples maybe... but other than that... It's pretty hard...
try this site its pretty good http://www.musicgalore.net/

Disturbed
Rammstein
Rob Zombie

disturbed, good at clubs etc (when drunk)
rammstein: ditto, ok at home if you don't understand the lyrics
rob zombie: just getting into... seems ok

The blessed Chris

03-09-2005, 11:31

I assume MCR won't be featuring......

Kragmeer

03-09-2005, 12:16

Diamond Head are cool. Got into them after hearing some of the covers Metallica did on Garage Inc. They've got some seriously good songs.

I find it difficult to like Megadeth, Dave Mustaine is one of the most arrogant pricks ever to enter the music scene, and I think his voice in most 'Deth songs is quite poor...Also my English teacher looks just like him!!(My english teacher is a she which makes it more funny)

The Tribes Of Longton

03-09-2005, 12:31

Megadeth - yes
2 Death
3 Children of Bodom - no
3 Demons & Wizards
5 Arch Enemy - no
6 Slayer - yes
7 Carcass - unsure
8 Behemoth
8 Mayhem
10 Testament - yes
11 Helloween - alright
12 Iced Earth - yes
12 Satyricon
12 Celtic Frost
15 Ensiferum
16 Diamond Head - nooooooo
17 King Diamond
18 Blind Guardian
18 Evergrey
18 Bathory
21 Metal Church
21 Wintersun
23 Venom
23 Judas Priest - ok, I suppose
23 Nile - whoa there
23 Artillery

Gaps are for bands I haven't heard much of.

Harlesburg

03-09-2005, 13:01

Obviously
Black Sabbath
MegaDeath
might as well add Iron Maiden
1000 Homo DJ's

i dont know many of the ones you guys posted.
Slayer
Pantera
JP

Harlesburg

03-09-2005, 13:05

Also
Omph sp
and Das Ich...

Markreich

03-09-2005, 13:08

I'm not so keen on Queensryche... but I may yet check them out...

Why not? I mean, it's great that you're considering checking them out, but why not so keen?

Whereas Dream Theater... I don't like their cocnept albums. Period. And I didn't quite like Dream Theater that much, until I saw them live opening for Maiden... Now I have a new found respected for DT--but I still can't really enjoy listening to any of their albums... They just don't click with me... But I do want to see them live again.

I really like Scenes from a Memory... it's a good story, but also is a very tight album. And Images & Words is awesome just for Pull me Under and Metropolis. :)

PS- I saw DT WITH Queensryche a year or two ago. At the end, both bands came out and did the Who's "Won't get fooled again". Awesome!

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 16:13

I tend to think it is because most of it is derivative and unimaginative.

What death metal songs have you heard?

Tellling the differnce between say, two cannible corpse songs may not be so easy, but telling the differnce between maybe a nile song and an arch enemy or Death song should be fairly obvious.

Vittos Ordination

03-09-2005, 16:38

That is certainly more difficult... There are too few "free samples" of sorts available of death metal bands especially... I could find you some folk and viking metal samples maybe... but other than that... It's pretty hard...

Folk metal???

What death metal songs have you heard?

Tellling the differnce between say, two cannible corpse songs may not be so easy, but telling the differnce between maybe a nile song and an arch enemy or Death song should be fairly obvious.

I don't know the titles or even the bands. I had a neighbor for two years who was big into metal, had posters with bloody angels and bloody people and dead people all over his walls. I recognize a few of the names in the original list, but I couldn't assign the names to the songs.

But anyway, I heard a lot of metal through him, and none of the songs stood out to me, or really differentiated themselves.

But like I said, I consider myself pretty open minded to music, so if you have some downloads, I would be happy to hear them.

Draconis Nightcrawlis

03-09-2005, 16:48

Folk metal???

Yes Folk Metal, like Metsatöll.

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 16:59

Folk Metal is awesome 8)

As for downloads I don't have any offhand...

I know there a couple Death music vids available on emptywords.org

Edit: Specifically, here http://www.emptywords.org/downloads.htm

Edit again: You can listen to two Nile songs here http://nile-catacombs.net/

And some Arch Enemy:

http://mp3.centurymedia.com/ArchEnemy_BurningAngel_WagesOfSin.mp3

Anyways, I can certainly understand that you might not like death metal, but that doesn't mean it is unimaginative

Draconis Nightcrawlis

03-09-2005, 17:05

http://www.mp3.com/death-metal-black-metal/genre/366/levelthree.html

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 19:25

try the song Nomad or Territory - it grows on you after a while. it may not be the most incredible music, but god-damn does it have presence, mood, feeling, anger, attitude, whatever you wanna call it - its primal :P

I dunno... I have yet to hear a Sepultura song that I even remotely like...

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 19:27

Why not? I mean, it's great that you're considering checking them out, but why not so keen?

Well they always sounded a bit hair metallish... And the songs I've heard weren't too bad, but weren't really spectacular. But if you could suggest an album... I'll keep an eye out for it.

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 19:40

Folk metal???
Actually chances are you'll like folk metal before you'll like death metal...

I don't know the titles or even the bands. I had a neighbor for two years who was big into metal, had posters with bloody angels and bloody people and dead people all over his walls. I recognize a few of the names in the original list, but I couldn't assign the names to the songs.

But anyway, I heard a lot of metal through him, and none of the songs stood out to me, or really differentiated themselves.

But like I said, I consider myself pretty open minded to music, so if you have some downloads, I would be happy to hear them.
Well from the sound of it, your neighbor listened to bands like Cannibal Corpse or Morbid Angel... I don't much like them either...

But anyways about the downloads... It is difficult to get into death metal from the start, especially if you don't have much experience in metal in general. If you'd like to try out metal in general, it would be best if you start off with traditional heavy metal, power metal, prog metal, and maybe even folk metal.

Now as for some startin' reccommendations (I'll try and find downloads... pending):

Pretty much anything from these ones:
Iron Maiden (have samples on their site here (http://www.ironmaiden.com/)... just check under discography and "save as" a song)
Black Sabbath (using Pure Metal's musicgalore link... some downloads here (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/A_B/blacksabbath.html)
Blind Guardian (check under discography they have some samples on their website here (http://www.blind-guardian.com/))
Iced Earth (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/I_L/icedearth.html)
(thats what I started out on)

However, you may also like:
Accept's Balls to the Wall (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/A_B/accept.html)
Nocturnal Mortum's Twilightfall (an album before they turned Nazi)
Control Denied to lead up into Death maybe
Dio's Holy Diver (scroll down) (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/C_D/dio.html)
Skiltron (viking metal) (http://www.skiltron.com.ar/english/musica.htm)
Orphaned Land
Rhapsody (downloads in discography on their site here (http://www.mightyrhapsody.com/))
Savatage... I'd suggest to start with Poets and Madmen (look here (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/S_Z/savatage.html))

Kanabia

03-09-2005, 20:45

I dunno... I have yet to hear a Sepultura song that I even remotely like...

Which albums have you heard? Their early stuff is mostly shit, but Chaos A.D. is brilliant, IMHO.

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 21:27

Which albums have you heard? Their early stuff is mostly shit, but Chaos A.D. is brilliant, IMHO.
Well I have Schizophrenia... and I've heard random songs from them on streaming radio...

Swimmingpool

03-09-2005, 22:11

Megadeth
Good

Death
Good. I have not heard enough.

Children of Bodom
Good for laughs.

Demons & Wizards
Funny.

Arch Enemy
Shit.

Slayer
Very good.

Carcass
Excellent, briliant.

Behemoth
Don't know.

Mayhem
Pretty good.

Testament
Don't know.

Helloween
Great. Important.

Iced Earth
Good.

Satyricon
Don't know.

Celtic Frost
Don't know, unfortunately.

Ensiferum
Don't know.

Diamond Head
Don't know.

King Diamond
Alright.

Blind Guardian
Absolutely brilliant. The best power metal band ever. I love them.

Evergrey
Don't know.

Bathory
OK.

Metal Church
Don't know.

Wintersun
Don't know.

Venom
Funny.

Judas Priest
Decent. Cheesy.

Nile
Good and heavy.

Artillery
Don't know.

Swimmingpool

03-09-2005, 22:30

w00t! thanks :D

losing your music collection is... painful to say the least
that said i should be getting my music back next weekend with a bit of luck - a mate of mine at uni has all my cds, so all i need do is bring the computer there and voilà! i could be sending you stuff ;)
Please send me stuff too! I am a metal fan!

Swimmingpool

03-09-2005, 22:52

Does anyone else like

Opeth
The Gathering
Aghora

?

http://www.hasharat.co.il/images/dream_scenes_200.jpg

Concept albums par excellance and the best two metal operas ever.
I'm not a fan of Queensyrche but Dream Theater are a brilliant band, especially Scenes From a Memory and images and words.

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 22:58

Opeth -- they talented but IMO they try to to do too much... and end up with disjointed songs that are too long... and have a few enjoyable parts... I do like some of their shorter songs though. And it's not that I just don't like long songs, it's just I think Opeth can't do long songs well... Now take a band like say Moonsorrow... They can do long songs extremely well.
The Gathering -- dunno em
Aghora --- dunno em

Swimmingpool

03-09-2005, 23:00

I like one song by one of those bands, "Turbo Lover" by Judas Preist.

To me, 95% is generally way over the top guitar work and singing, or horrid screaming with no melody to speak of. I can't even tell the difference between two death metal songs.
Everyone says that!

What death metal songs have you heard?

Tellling the differnce between say, two cannible corpse songs may not be so easy, but telling the differnce between maybe a nile song and an arch enemy or Death song should be fairly obvious.
Arch Enemy? Is that stuff actually considered death metal?

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 23:03

Arch Enemy? Is that stuff actually considered death metal?
And no Arch Enemy is actually hardcore... but I'm not one too get anal about genre labels.

Draconis Nightcrawlis

03-09-2005, 23:03

Does anyone else like

Opeth - Awesome band
The Gathering - Only really heard their 'Sleepy Buildings' album, a fucking excellent album though
Aghora - Never heard them

.

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 23:14

And no Arch Enemy is actually hardcore... but I'm not one too get anal about genre labels.

Arch Enemy is definitly not harcore though o_0

Hardcore is I believe bands like Throwdown and Hatebreed

I would say Arch Enemy is melodic death metal, but really if not for the vocals I'd say a melodic thrash type thing. But whatever....

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 23:17

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 23:28

Arch Enemy is definitly not harcore though o_0

I'd say a melodic thrash type thing. But whatever....
Aha! Thrash pretty close to hardcore in many respects... (as far as musical trends go one evolved from the other--don't remember which from which). So it is not so farfetched to label hardcore... Now I would debate this, but I've heard too little of Arch Enemy stuff to remember what genre they were exactly...

And I believe Lawnmowerville (is he still around? probably not) would agree with me on the Arch Enemy being hardcore. And he was the NS metal guru.

But yeah had I had at least one Arch Enemy album I'd know for sure...

Adjacent to Belarus

03-09-2005, 23:28

Megadeth - Cool in small doses.
Death - Haven't heard them.
Children of Bodom - Their cover of Britney Spear's "Oops, I Did It Again" is hilarious. Haven't heard any of their other songs.
Demons & Wizards - Pretty cool.
Arch Enemy - Haven't heard them.
Slayer - Meh.
Carcass - Haven't heard them.
Behemoth - Haven't heard them.
Mayhem - Haven't heard them.
Testament - Not horrible.
Helloween - Haven't heard them, but from what I know of them, I probably would like them if I heard them.
Iced Earth - Awesome, on the whole.
Satyricon - Haven't heard them.
Celtic Frost - See Helloween.
Ensiferum - Haven't heard them.
Diamond Head - Haven't heard them.
King Diamond - Haven't heard them.
Blind Guardian - Has its moments... I don't like the vocals as much as others I've heard.
Evergrey - Same as Helloween and Celtic Frost.
Bathory - Haven't heard them.
Metal Church - Haven't heard them.
Wintersun - Haven't heard them.
Venom - Haven't heard them.
Judas Priest - Kinda cheesy and simple, but can be good fun.
Nile - Haven't heard them.
Artillery - Haven't heard them.

Hmm, looks like there are some bands I need to check out. :)

But I should add that no list of respectable metal bands should be without Symphony X... so awesome... and nobody has mentioned Kamelot, Rhapsody, Nightwish, and Stratovarius either...

And may I ask why several people consider Pink Floyd to be metal?...

And may I add my support for Queensryche, Dream Theater, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Metallica, and Fates Warning.
And has anyone heard of Aria? It's a cool Russian metal band.

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 23:33

Blind Guardian - Has its moments... I don't like the vocals as much as others I've heard.

:eek:

Adjacent to Belarus

03-09-2005, 23:36

:eek:

Well, sorry... they're definitely likeable, but I think Hansi should sing more often and scream less often. It just seems like he usually overdoes the screaming to me. Maybe it's an acquired taste...

NuMetal

03-09-2005, 23:36

Aha! Thrash pretty close to hardcore in many respects... (as far as musical trends go one evolved from the other--don't remember which from which). So it is not so farfetched to label hardcore... Now I would debate this, but I've heard too little of Arch Enemy stuff to remember what genre they were exactly...

And I believe Lawnmowerville (is he still around? probably not) would agree with me on the Arch Enemy being hardcore. And he was the NS metal guru.

But yeah had I had at least one Arch Enemy album I'd know for sure...

Hm I have a couple Arch Enemy albums. Lawnmowerville...I dunno if he is still here or not. I suspect he might say they aren't death metal, but I don't think he say they were hardcore. Their old vocalist sounded more hardcore though maybe. Hmm....Download "Ravenous" If you don't already have it though

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 23:40

Well, sorry... they're definitely likeable, but I think Hansi should sing more often and scream less often. It just seems like he usually overdoes the screaming to me. Maybe it's an acquired taste...
The screaming :confused:

Now I like Blind Guardian but I'm not that big a fan... but their vocal work is always topnotch and I don't think I've ever met anyone who didn't think so.

It's just surprising.

What bands would you say has better vocal work? Rhapsody, Elvenking?

Amerigo

03-09-2005, 23:43

Hm I have a couple Arch Enemy albums. Lawnmowerville...I dunno if he is still here or not. I suspect he might say they aren't death metal, but I don't think he say they were hardcore. Their old vocalist sounded more hardcore though maybe. Hmm....Download "Ravenous" If you don't already have it though
Actually I don't have any of their albums... Thats why I cant say I know them well enough to tell you what genre they are... But I have heard a lot of them on random streaming radios...

Draconis Nightcrawlis

03-09-2005, 23:53

Lawnmowerville...I dunno if he is still here or not.

He got deleted for inactivity :(

Adjacent to Belarus

03-09-2005, 23:53

The screaming :confused:

Now I like Blind Guardian but I'm not that big a fan... but their vocal work is always topnotch and I don't think I've ever met anyone who didn't think so.

It's just surprising.

What bands would you say has better vocal work? Rhapsody, Elvenking?

Ack - I'm not saying they're untalented. Far from it; Blind Guardian is quite talented. What I'm trying to get across is that their vocals aren't quite my cup of tea. And I guess "hoarse shouting" would be a better way to put it than screaming, now that I think about it.

Oh, right... I prefer the vocals of bands like Symphony X.

Homieville

04-09-2005, 01:42

I hate these medal bands they are to annoying

Swimmingpool

04-09-2005, 01:45

Well, sorry... they're definitely likeable, but I think Hansi should sing more often and scream less often. It just seems like he usually overdoes the screaming to me. Maybe it's an acquired taste...
It probably is. I like the screaming. Not many power metal bands have much emotion in their music, but Blind Guardian have buckets of it.

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 05:39

Ack - I'm not saying they're untalented. Far from it; Blind Guardian is quite talented. What I'm trying to get across is that their vocals aren't quite my cup of tea. And I guess "hoarse shouting" would be a better way to put it than screaming, now that I think about it.

Oh, right... I prefer the vocals of bands like Symphony X.
Just the band I haven't heard much of.

But I mean maybe after all the death and black metal I listen to, hearing Blind Guardian.... the vocals sound incredible.

So I guess I may be a bit biased toward their vocalwork.

Oh and I don't really mention Hansi, because its their choruses that are epic, but he's quite the vocalist--not a Bruce Dickinson, but still great.

Vittos Ordination

04-09-2005, 06:57

Pretty much anything from these ones:
Iron Maiden (have samples on their site here (http://www.ironmaiden.com/)... just check under discography and "save as" a song)
Black Sabbath (using Pure Metal's musicgalore link... some downloads here (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/A_B/blacksabbath.html)
Blind Guardian (check under discography they have some samples on their website here (http://www.blind-guardian.com/))
Iced Earth (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/I_L/icedearth.html)
(thats what I started out on)

However, you may also like:
Accept's Balls to the Wall (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/A_B/accept.html)
Nocturnal Mortum's Twilightfall (an album before they turned Nazi)
Control Denied to lead up into Death maybe
Dio's Holy Diver (scroll down) (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/C_D/dio.html)
Skiltron (viking metal) (http://www.skiltron.com.ar/english/musica.htm)
Orphaned Land
Rhapsody (downloads in discography on their site here (http://www.mightyrhapsody.com/))
Savatage... I'd suggest to start with Poets and Madmen (look here (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/S_Z/savatage.html))

Most of these sound like melodramatic Metallica (I thought Metallica was already melodramatic), like Metallica had a fascination with Styx and D&D.

The bands Rhapsody and Iced Earth were the most like this, almost to the point that I kind of laughed when I listened to "Knightrider of Doom". Blind Guardian wasn't bad, but a couple of their songs sound like they were originally written by Desmond Child, and the hair bands were never my thing.

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 07:15

Most of these sound like melodramatic Metallica (I thought Metallica was already melodramatic), like Metallica had a fascination with Styx and D&D.

The bands Rhapsody and Iced Earth were the most like this, almost to the point that I kind of laughed when I listened to "Knightrider of Doom". Blind Guardian wasn't bad, but a couple of their songs sound like they were originally written by Desmond Child, and the hair bands were never my thing.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "melodramatic".

Although for reference, what sort of music do you prefer?

Laerod

04-09-2005, 07:22

Hm... I don't listen to any of those bands...

Mister Pink

04-09-2005, 07:44

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "melodramatic".

Melodramatic meaning theatrical, dramatic to the point that it seems staged and unnatural.

Although for reference, what sort of music do you prefer?

My favorite albums at present:

Tom Waits's Mule Variations ("Big in Japan" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/4/2256/4378_1_1_05.asf) , "Chocolate Jesus" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/4/2256/4378_1_12_05.asf) )

Death From Above 1979's You're a Woman, I'm a Machine (Little Girl (http://www.deathfromabove1979.com/files/07%20Little%20Girl%2Ewma) )

White Stripes' Get Behind Me Satan

Black Rebel Motorcycle Club's Howl (Album Stream (http://www.blackrebelmotorcycleclub.com/howl/) )

Spoon's Gimme Fiction ("I Turn My Camera On" (http://www.matadorrecords.com/mpeg/spoon/spoon_camera.mp3) )

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 07:50

Melodramatic meaning theatrical, dramatic to the point that it seems staged and unnatural.

Isn't that... what music is? Something staged and theatrical, unless you prefer improv jam sessions that lack direction?

(Oh and I'm in the process of listening to those bands.)

Vittos Ordination

04-09-2005, 07:57

Isn't that... what music is? Something staged and theatrical, unless you prefer improv jam sessions that lack direction?

(Oh and I'm in the process of listening to those bands.)

In a way, yes, but it should be subtle, in that you just experience it. Like a movie, in a good movie, you just kind of slip into the story, while in others, the plot is kind of force fed.

Most of those metal songs tend to beat you over the head with anger, sadness, or grandeur.

(And sorry for the puppet post, it is my default nationstate on this computer.)

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 08:05

My favorite albums at present:

Tom Waits's Mule Variations ("Big in Japan" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/4/2256/4378_1_1_05.asf) , "Chocolate Jesus" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/4/2256/4378_1_12_05.asf) )

Death From Above 1979's You're a Woman, I'm a Machine (Little Girl (http://www.deathfromabove1979.com/files/07%20Little%20Girl%2Ewma) )

White Stripes' Get Behind Me Satan

Black Rebel Motorcycle Club's Howl (Album Stream (http://www.blackrebelmotorcycleclub.com/howl/) )

Spoon's Gimme Fiction ("I Turn My Camera On" (http://www.matadorrecords.com/mpeg/spoon/spoon_camera.mp3) )
Well I found all of this a bit too repetitive... But I did like Tom Wait... It's quite interesting... but also a bit too repetitive.

Black Rebel Motorcycle Club was also kinda interesting, but the chorus got a bit kinda boring in that second song. Still not too bad.

The other stuff I didn't much like... and I really, really dislike the White Stripes.

Although I from what I've heard, I'd like to know what you'd think of somethin' like Electric Wizard (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/E_H/electricwizard.html).

It's definately a lot more... improvised and you're more likely to like that sorta music.

EDIT: Also check out Goatsnake samples here (http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=3998374) and Tiamat samples (http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1231098/a/Clouds%2FThe+Sleeping+Beauty:+Live+In+Israel.htm)

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 08:07

In a way, yes, but it should be subtle, in that you just experience it. Like a movie, in a good movie, you just kind of slip into the story, while in others, the plot is kind of force fed.

Most of those metal songs tend to beat you over the head with anger, sadness, or grandeur.

(And sorry for the puppet post, it is my default nationstate on this computer.)
Well, then you'll probably like a different approach to metal... There are a lot of bands that are more complex than those. But I like to think the ones I gave you are good begginner metal. I'll try and find some more...

Vittos Ordination

04-09-2005, 08:21

Well I found all of this a bit too repetitive... But I did like Tom Wait... It's quite interesting... but also a bit too repetitive.

Tom Waits is the greatest, within 6 months of listening to him, he has surpassed all of my favorite bands. It is a little ridiculous to call those bands melodramatic and listen to Waits, though. He is as theatrical as it gets.

Great Tom Waits songs:

"Singapore" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/2/2256/26792_1_11_05.asf)
"16 Shells from a Thirty-Ought Six" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/2/2256/26792_1_19_05.asf)
"Jesus Gonna Be Here" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/2/2256/26792_1_20_05.asf)
"Starving in the Belly of a Whale" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/1/2256/26251_1_9_05.asf)
"Gun Street Girl" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/5/2256/10145_1_13_05.asf)
"Earth Died Screaming" (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/1/2256/10015_1_1_05.asf) (This song is as scary as any song I have ever heard)

EDIT:

Electric Wizard sounds like kind of a throw back to Black Sabbath and aren't bad. Not to fond of Tiamet, but I did enjoy Goatsnake, especially what I heard of the song "Trower".

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 08:34

Electric Wizard sounds like kind of a throw back to Black Sabbath and aren't bad. Not to fond of Tiamet, but I did enjoy Goatsnake, especially what I heard of the song "Trower".
In that case, there's a whole bunch of stoner doom metal bands you may like... (I must confess I don't know any more besides Goatsnake and Electric Wizard... It's just those two are difficult to find as it is--for cheap that is.)

But I'll try and find some more bands you may like... based on that... I'll link you some harder stuff--with growled vocals (which is just the thing that ruins death and black metal for most people). And I'll try and find you some less "melodramatic" music.

EDIT: And I do enjoy most of these Tom Waits songs I'm listening to. Although they are a tad long... (subjectively long... long as in longer than they sound they should be... because I know a some 20 minute songs that flow beautiful IMO)

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 09:19

And I'll pretty much have to agree with Amerigo about Opeth...certain songs I like but alot of them I find kind of boring, with very well done riffs and such at parts but somehow it doesn't keep me interested

Definitely. It's good technically, but doesn't captivate me.

In that case, there's a whole bunch of stoner doom metal bands you may like... (I must confess I don't know any more besides Goatsnake and Electric Wizard... It's just those two are difficult to find as it is--for cheap that is.)

Ah, that's something I can help out with. :D

Kyuss, Candlemass, Monster Magnet, Fu Manchu, Fireball Ministry, Electric Earth, Nebula, The Melvins, The Atomic Bitchwax...some Queens of the Stone Age stuff also applies (Josh Homme was a founding member of Kyuss).

Kyuss - 50 Million Year Trip (Downside Up) (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/2/2386/3764_1_4_05.asf)

Kyuss - Gardenia/Asteroid/Supa Scoopa (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/3/2386/3705_1_1_05.asf)

Monster Magnet - Stadium (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/3/1449/3795_1_8_05.asf)

Monster Magnet - Negasonic Teenage Warhead (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/2/1449/4448_1_2_05.asf)(More rock than metal, this track...the band varies in their heaviness)

Fu Manchu - Eatin' Dust (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/3/796/9405_1_4_05.asf)

Fireball Ministry - King (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/0/23585/26442_1_1_05.asf)

The Melvins - Revolve (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/2/6520/9914_1_4_05.asf) (Some of their stuff is heavier, some of it more psychadelic...you'll have to check out quite a few songs to get their "feel")

You can't find all of those bands on that Music Galore site, but you can find find MP3's of pretty much all of them at www.stonerrock.com.

Candlemass and Kyuss are probably the two that are most traditionally "metal".

EDIT- Yeah, if you like Goatsnake (I just checked them out myself - they're going on the "to buy" list :D), Vittos, you will probably like a lot of that stuff.

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 09:19

Oh and I'd like to know what you think of Dog Fashion Disco (not really metal at all, but it's somethin quite interestin')

Here's Vertigo Motel (http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/0/18945/20658_1_9_05.asf)

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 09:26

Kyuss, Candlemass, Monster Magnet, Fu Manchu, Fireball Ministry, Electric Earth, Nebula, The Melvins, The Atomic Bitchwax...some Queens of the Stone Age stuff also applies (Josh Homme was a founding member of Kyuss).

Candlemass and Kyuss are probably the two that are most traditionally "metal".
I can easily debate some of these selections...

Firstly Candlemass is epic doom... and the guy did say he doesn't like melodramatic music... and Candlemass seems as melodramatic as it can be.

And I do love Monster Magnet but I wouldn't call it metal... It's hard rock, but does have that weird stoner doomy vibe to it, so I'll agree with that.

QoSA also not metal... and I sorta like... but it's definately not stoner doom... It's stoner rock yes. Vittos will probably like them, but still not really stoner doom.

Now I don't know the others too well, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Hate to sound so thankless, but eh... I don't want to delete my impulsive retorts.

Although thanks. I myself might check some of those out.

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 09:26

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 09:29

That is really, really, cool. Hahahaha, I love music that makes me laugh.

:D
For more (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/C_D/dogfashion.html)

This album is among the best out of all nu-metalesque bands out there.

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 09:30

Firstly Candlemass is epic doom... and the guy did say he doesn't like melodramatic music... and Candlemass seems as melodramatic as it can be.

Fair enough.

And I do love Monster Magnet but I wouldn't call it metal... It's hard rock, but does have that weird stoner doomy vibe to it, so I'll agree with that.

Yeah. I never really labelled them as metal myself, but they're connected to that whole stoner metal scene.

QoSA also not metal... and I sorta like... but it's definately not stoner doom... It's stoner rock yes. Vittos will probably like them, but still not really stoner doom.

Yeah, but it shows through in songs like Mexicola. They're a rock version of Kyuss, really.

Now I don't know the others too well, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Hate to sound so thankless, but eh... I don't want to delete my impulsive retorts.

Although thanks. I myself might check some of those out.

Out of the list, i'd recommend Kyuss most of all. A lot of those bands sit somewhere in between rock and metal.

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 09:32

And listening to Kyuss... yeah... I'd say their stoner doomy enough to be called stoner doom.

Wormsmeat

04-09-2005, 09:33

Amerigo

04-09-2005, 09:36

The few people who post in this thread claiming to not liking any of them...

The question must be asked...

Have you heard music from all bands listed?

EDIT: This thread is turning out so awesome. We have here genuine openmindedness to differing genres of music, without any of that childish genre eliticism that almost always tends to taint threads like this. Is this harbinger of what is to come or merely an anomaly? I think the latter. But still so far so good.

Markreich

04-09-2005, 13:07

Well they always sounded a bit hair metallish... And the songs I've heard weren't too bad, but weren't really spectacular. But if you could suggest an album... I'll keep an eye out for it.

Pick up Operation Mindcrime (the one pictured), and for a non-concept album, grab "Tribe".

KnYan

04-09-2005, 13:24

Megadeth -> Not much
Children of Bodom -> Sometimes
Helloween -> Yes
Iced Earth -> Sometimes
King Diamond -> Yes
Blind Guardian -> Yes
Evergrey -> Yes
Judas Priest -> Yes

NuMetal

04-09-2005, 14:59

"Do you like any of these metal bands?" version...5...or something"

Nope. Don't like any of them.

Why do you ask? Are you taking a poll? Or just trying to rate the talents of a number of questionably talented musicians?

Or, more directly: Who do you like? Which bands do you feel are unworthy of making your list?

The purpose of the original thread was just to share some musical tastes, show people new bands they might like, and that sort of thing. And perhaps an informal poll. But it also turned out to be a great place chat for people of similar musical tastes, so it was reincarnated several times, the laste one was a loooong time ago though, and I though we should try it again.

And as Amerigo pointed out its been quite a cool thread so far, with everyone being pretty fair about eachother's tastes.

And I don't think anyone is questioning the talents of the musicians (except maybe Venom <_<) because, although many people may not enjoy their compositions, most won't deny they are talented...

Vittos Ordination

04-09-2005, 16:52

Amerigo,
it would be fitting that, out of all the metal genres, I would like Stoner Metal, but from what I have heard you are right.

Kanabia,
I know Kyuss and Monster Magnet already, and the Fu Manchu and Fireball Ministry songs were pretty good. Amerigo was right about Candlemass, I can't stand their lead singer.

For both of you guys, what do you think of Clutch (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/C_D/clutch.html)? I have been a fan of them for a few years, and I never knew what specific genre they were, but they sound like stoner rock.

Adjacent to Belarus

04-09-2005, 18:08

Just the band I haven't heard much of.

But I mean maybe after all the death and black metal I listen to, hearing Blind Guardian.... the vocals sound incredible.

So I guess I may be a bit biased toward their vocalwork.

Oh and I don't really mention Hansi, because its their choruses that are epic, but he's quite the vocalist--not a Bruce Dickinson, but still great.

Yeah, I haven't listened to much black/death metal - and the stuff I have listened to just seems too over-the-top evil most of the time. But, I do find black metal band pictures very (http://ruthlessreviews.com/top10/10blackmetal.html) entertaining! (http://ruthlessreviews.com/top10/10blackmetal2.html) :D

And you haven't heard much of Symphony X? *Highly* recommended. Check out The Odyssey, or V: The New Mythology Suite, both of which are super cool.

The Elder Malaclypse

04-09-2005, 18:41

Death
don't know
Mayhem
dunno

King Diamond
not really

Bathory
dunno again

Venom
no.

Nile
Artillery
both dunno

Dude, how can you call yourself "Pure Metal"????? Bathory man!!! Bathory!!! Please go listen to "equimanthorn". Then kick yourself.

Here's a few of my personal favourites: Melvins, Godflesh, today is the day, clutch, Melvins, Emperor, sunn, boris, sleep, burzum, Melvins, mercyful fate, pentagram, agrophobic nosebleed and uhhh.. melvins. Yeah, they kick ass. I'll add more if anyones interested.

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 19:25

For both of you guys, what do you think of Clutch (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/C_D/clutch.html)? I have been a fan of them for a few years, and I never knew what specific genre they were, but they sound like stoner rock.

Ooh, from what I can hear there, they're a band I should get into. :D Definitely Stoner rock, but they have their own distinct sound...a lot of Stoner bands sound like clones of Sabbath. (albeit inferior ones)

sleep

Ah, I forgot them! Here we go Vittos, Amerigo...Sleep are a classic example of Stoner/Doom metal.

http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/S_Z/sleep.html

Pure Metal

04-09-2005, 19:35

Dude, how can you call yourself "Pure Metal"????? Bathory man!!! Bathory!!! Please go listen to "equimanthorn". Then kick yourself.

Here's a few of my personal favourites: Melvins, Godflesh, today is the day, clutch, Melvins, Emperor, sunn, boris, sleep, burzum, Melvins, mercyful fate, pentagram, agrophobic nosebleed and uhhh.. melvins. Yeah, they kick ass. I'll add more if anyones interested.
i call myself pure metal cos i listen to metal... obviously very different metal to your definition of metal, only recognising one band on your list :p

of my list you quoted:

Death - haven't heard anything but want to. if P2P worked on my ISP they'd probably be the first thing i'd download
Mayhem - never head of
King Diamond - cannot stand at all. a friend likes em so i have heard a fair bit - just not my style...
Bathory - never heard of
Venom - bought one cd, returned it cos it was shit
Nile and Artillery - both never heard of

i like my metal more thrash and grindcore than... King Diamond ;)

edit: btw, NuMetal, cheers for the Metal Church! :fluffle: :fluffle:

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 19:39

Mayhem - never head of

Really? The story behind Mayhem is pretty legendary.

To quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayhem_%28band%29#Biography)

"In 1991, Dead committed suicide by means of a shotgun blast to the head (he had also slit his wrists several times). The bullets which he used had been sent to him by Count Grishnackh (the sole member of the black metal band Burzum and the man who later killed Euronymous), who apparently thought this was cool but denied having any advance knowledge of the suicide. Dead's body was discovered, along with a suicide note reading "Excuse all the blood", in a back room of the band's house. Euronymous quickly took pictures (which later appeared in the booklets for several subsequent Mayhem releases and other bands' materials) of the bloody scene using a polaroid camera. Persistent rumors assert that he then cooked and ate pieces of Dead's brain, and that fragments of Dead's skull were collected and forged into necklaces by both Euronymous and Hellhammer. In 1993 Live in Leipzig was released as the band's tribute to Dead. The release was followed by the famous bootleg Dawn Of The Black Hearts. Its cover featured a photo of Dead's corpse after the suicide. After Dead's suicide and all of the police and media attention it garnered, Necrobutcher made the decision to leave Mayhem, thinning the band's ranks down to just two."

"Some people seem to think that Vikernes was jealous of Euronymous's "evil reputation", but that's just pure speculation. One morning he traveled along with Blackthorn (of the band Thorns) to Euronymous's apartment. There he stabbed Euronymous to death with a viking knife. The autopsy revealed that Euronymous had suffered twenty-three stab wounds: two to the head, five to the neck, and sixteen to the back. Grishnackh left a key piece of evidence, however: a copy of a record contract (used as the pretense for his visit to Euronymous) with his bloody fingerprints on it. Soon Grishnackh was apprehended by police and charged with murder. He continued in prison to record for his one-man project Burzum. With only Hellhammer remaining, Mayhem ceased to exist."

As for their music, meh. Oh, and Vikernes (Count Grishnackh) is a nazi, according to the wiki article on him. I didn't know that.

Pure Metal

04-09-2005, 19:52

"In 1991, Dead committed suicide by means of a shotgun blast to the head (he had also slit his wrists several times). The bullets which he used had been sent to him by Count Grishnackh (the sole member of the black metal band Burzum and the man who later killed Euronymous), who apparently thought this was cool but denied having any advance knowledge of the suicide. Dead's body was discovered, along with a suicide note reading "Excuse all the blood", in a back room of the band's house. Euronymous quickly took pictures (which later appeared in the booklets for several subsequent Mayhem releases and other bands' materials) of the bloody scene using a polaroid camera. Persistent rumors assert that he then cooked and ate pieces of Dead's brain, and that fragments of Dead's skull were collected and forged into necklaces by both Euronymous and Hellhammer. In 1993 Live in Leipzig was released as the band's tribute to Dead. The release was followed by the famous bootleg Dawn Of The Black Hearts. Its cover featured a photo of Dead's corpse after the suicide. After Dead's suicide and all of the police and media attention it garnered, Necrobutcher made the decision to leave Mayhem, thinning the band's ranks down to just two."

"Some people seem to think that Vikernes was jealous of Euronymous's "evil reputation", but that's just pure speculation. One morning he traveled along with Blackthorn (of the band Thorns) to Euronymous's apartment. There he stabbed Euronymous to death with a viking knife. The autopsy revealed that Euronymous had suffered twenty-three stab wounds: two to the head, five to the neck, and sixteen to the back. Grishnackh left a key piece of evidence, however: a copy of a record contract (used as the pretense for his visit to Euronymous) with his bloody fingerprints on it. Soon Grishnackh was apprehended by police and charged with murder. He continued in prison to record for his one-man project Burzum. With only Hellhammer remaining, Mayhem ceased to exist."

hmmm... to me, thats not metal - its just fucking stupid :rolleyes:

though i have heard of 'Count Grishnackh'. generally i find all this black and death metal stuff total pretentious bullshit... and ridiculous when taken to the extremes in that quote. black-metalheads burning down churches is just sad.
whatever happened to good ol' sex, drugs and rock n roll? :rolleyes:

to clarify: these dues take it all waaay too seriously. i like napalm death's method: wear any old clothes, go on stage with a pint, make awesome noise and make sure the pit is wicked - none of this "more metal than thou" pretentious BS
(hmm do we have a debate forming here? :eek: )

Neo-Anarchists

04-09-2005, 19:54

Ah, I forgot them! Here we go Vittos, Amerigo...Sleep are a classic example of Stoner/Doom metal.

http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/S_Z/sleep.html
Sleep kick ass.
"Look onto the rays of the new stoner sun rising
Sonic Titan rides out on clouds of new horizon"
*likes "Holy Mountain" a lot*

Thanks for the link to free stuff, I was getting frustrated because I couldn't find their music anywhere. No good music shops that I've found that carry much metal in my area.

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 19:55

Pure Metal

04-09-2005, 19:56

Part of the reason i've become attracted to Stoner metal stuff :p
and its precisely the reason why i love grindcore and thrash so much :D

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 19:58

Sleep kick ass.
"Look onto the rays of the new stoner sun rising
Sonic Titan rides out on clouds of new horizon"
*likes "Holy Mountain" a lot*

Thanks for the link to free stuff, I was getting frustrated because I couldn't find their music anywhere. No good music shops that I've found that carry much metal in my area.

Yeah, they are really hard to find...I used soulseek to download that album a while back (though I no longer have it). The actual album is probably out of print... :(

EDIT- Aha!!!

http://www.stonerrock.com/store/info.asp?item_num=ATH-444

I really love that site. They even have Sleep T-shirts. Hahaha :)

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 19:59

and its precisely the reason why i love grindcore and thrash so much :D

Have you heard of a Japanese grindcore band called "Melt Banana"? They're hilarious. :D

Pure Metal

04-09-2005, 20:02

Have you heard of a Japanese grindcore band called "Melt Banana"? They're hilarious. :D
nope, but its now on my things-to-download list :D

have you heard of a band called Anal ****? british grindcore hilarity with songs like "Ha Ha You Got Date Raped", "Hitler Was A Sensative Guy", and "Art Fag" :p

Squornshelous

04-09-2005, 20:02

Megadeth - like em
Death- never heard of
Children of Bodom - like em
Demons & Wizards -never heard of
Arch Enemy - never heard of
Slayer - love em
Carcass - never heard of
Behemoth never heard of
Mayhem never heard of
Testament never heard of
Helloween never heard of
Iced Earth - they're okay
Satyricon never heard of
Celtic Frost never heard of
Ensiferum never heard of
Diamond Head - they're okay
King Diamond never heard of
Blind Guardian never heard of
Evergrey never heard of
Bathory never heard of
Metal Church never heard of
Wintersun never heard of
Venom never heard of
Judas Priest - like em
Nile never heard of
Artillery never heard of

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 20:08

nope, but its now on my things-to-download list :D

have you heard of a band called Anal ****? british grindcore hilarity with songs like "Ha Ha You Got Date Raped", "Hitler Was A Sensative Guy", and "Art Fag" :p

Yeah, they're pretty awesome :D I found them a couple of years back when searching for Nirvana stuff and came across the song "When I think of true punks, I think of Nirvana and the Melvins" :cool:

Pure Metal

04-09-2005, 20:10

Yeah, they're pretty awesome :D I found them a couple of years back when searching for Nirvana stuff and came across the song "When I think of true punks, I think of Nirvana and the Melvins" :cool:
lol :p

oh and speaking of Japanese bands... anyone else like Kittie? ;)

Neo-Anarchists

04-09-2005, 20:14

EDIT- Aha!!!

http://www.stonerrock.com/store/info.asp?item_num=ATH-444

I really love that site. They even have Sleep T-shirts. Hahaha :)
The site's radio and their MP3 jukebox features are kinda cool too.

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 20:14

lol :p

oh and speaking of Japanese bands... anyone else like Kittie? ;)

The all-girl band? They're okay...a bit bland in my opinion. But they're actually Canadian, unless you're thinking of a different band to me.

Pure Metal

04-09-2005, 20:15

The all-girl band? They're okay...a bit bland in my opinion. But they're actually Canadian, unless you're thinking of a different band to me.
are they canadain? ok, the friend who gave me their stuff was wrong, but nevermind...
i'm not a huge fan, but its quite good loud in the car

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 20:17

The site's radio and their MP3 jukebox features are kinda cool too.

Yeah, that's all I used the site for up until now. I never actually bothered to look in their store. (Probably because i'm going to have to spend over $100 on music again...bah.) :p

Kanabia

04-09-2005, 20:21

are they canadain? ok, the friend who gave me their stuff was wrong, but nevermind...
i'm not a huge fan, but its quite good loud in the car

I only have one album, Oracle. I'm not sure if it's their best, but I don't listen to it anymore. It got boring after a couple of listens.

EDIT - A good all-girl band is L7...not really metal though.

NuMetal

04-09-2005, 20:35

hmmm... to me, thats not metal - its just fucking stupid :rolleyes:

though i have heard of 'Count Grishnackh'. generally i find all this black and death metal stuff total pretentious bullshit... and ridiculous when taken to the extremes in that quote. black-metalheads burning down churches is just sad.
whatever happened to good ol' sex, drugs and rock n roll? :rolleyes:

to clarify: these dues take it all waaay too seriously. i like napalm death's method: wear any old clothes, go on stage with a pint, make awesome noise and make sure the pit is wicked - none of this "more metal than thou" pretentious BS
(hmm do we have a debate forming here? :eek: )
I agree, all the church burning shit is stupid (although it is interesting to read about) and the most "metal" (if you want to go that route) is the thrash no costumes just go and play music ethic. Alot of death metal bands and stuff have that same thing going. Black metal I haven't seen that much live except Behemoth who had makeup but thats all so it was still good. King Diamond puts on an elaborate stage show, but its all in good fun and he doesn't take himself too seriously and try and kill Christians or something. So basically....as long as you aren't an asshole itscool. I still like Mayhem's stuff though (Buried By Time and Dust is probably my favorite Mayhem song) so whatever.

Anyways....I guess we all are pretty much agreed on that so not much of a debate yet :D

Swimmingpool

04-09-2005, 23:48

Vittos Ordination

05-09-2005, 01:00

Swimmingpool

05-09-2005, 01:23

Sleater-Kinney is a great all girl band. Their new album The Woods is really good. Here (https://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/download.php?url=/downloads/free/Jumpers328.mp3&mid=328) is a song from it. It isn't metal but it is pretty good.
Yes I agree that Sleater-Kinney are a great band. I have two of their albums, Call the Doctor and Dig Me Out.

But this is a metal thread, not for them!

The Elder Malaclypse

05-09-2005, 14:20

i like my metal more thrash and grindcore than... King Diamond ;)

Blasphemy! I demand you buy "Don't Break The Oath" By Mercyful Fate! Repent my son and ye shall be forgiven!

The Elder Malaclypse

05-09-2005, 14:24

nope, but its now on my things-to-download list :D

have you heard of a band called Anal ****? british grindcore hilarity with songs like "Ha Ha You Got Date Raped", "Hitler Was A Sensative Guy", and "Art Fag" :p
Oh yeah... also have you heard Every Time I Die's new record? ...

"Hey, there Girls, i'm a ****!"

Bedou

05-09-2005, 14:25

Megadeth

time to add my own:

Black Sabbath
Cacophony
Alice In Chains
Bolt Thrower
Morbid Angel
Exodus
Heathen
Deftones
Korn
(some) In Flames
Metallica (how could you miss them out dude?)
Crowbar
Pantera
Dark Angel
Sepultura
Pitchshifter
SOAD
All of them--nice selection Pure Metal.

Nu metal, ....Venom?
I havnt heard a Venom song in 15 years--wow, way to dig deep.

Liskeinland

05-09-2005, 14:30

Bedou

05-09-2005, 14:56

lol :p

oh and speaking of Japanese bands... anyone else like Kittie? ;)
Kittie isnt Japanese!!!
They are Canadian and they are really good.
Not really good for chicks, just straight up really good.

Draconis Nightcrawlis

05-09-2005, 15:23

Kittie isnt Japanese!!!
They are Canadian and they are really good.
Not really good for chicks, just straight up really good.

Kittie are shite.

The Elder Malaclypse

05-09-2005, 16:01

I've only ever heard any Arch Enemy from your list - one song, Leader of the Rats. 'Twas good, but I've heard better. I go more for symphonic and ye olde style metal.
Uh, is 1974 not old enough metal for you?

Pure Metal

05-09-2005, 16:17

Kittie isnt Japanese!!!

yeah well i was misinformed by a friend
and they are ok

edit: All of them--nice selection Pure Metal.

w00t thanks :D
evidently you have good taste in music ;)

Squornshelous

05-09-2005, 19:03

Anyone else heard of a band called Dope?

Greater Googlia

05-09-2005, 19:07

Greater Googlia

05-09-2005, 19:08

Anyone else heard of a band called Dope?
I've heard OF them. Yesterday at work a customer asked me if we had anything by them. Never HEARD them though.

Squornshelous

05-09-2005, 19:43

I've heard OF them. Yesterday at work a customer asked me if we had anything by them. Never HEARD them though.

they're kind of Nu-Metal, a little heavier than Korn, not as heavy as Slipknot.

lemme see if I can link you to something

here's their page on Yahoo! music:
http://music.yahoo.com/ar-295967---Dope

There's a few music videos and song samples there.

Greater Googlia

05-09-2005, 19:45

they're kind of Nu-Metal, a little heavier than Korn, not as heavy as Slipknot.

lemme see if I can link you to something
I have Napster. Listening to "Felons and Revolutionaries" album now.

Any metal band that redoes an 80s song gets a check mark in my book.

Squornshelous

05-09-2005, 19:48

I have Napster. Listening to "Felons and Revolutionaries" album now.

that works too

Pure Metal

05-09-2005, 19:54

Roots! blooody roots!

guess what i'm listening to and win a cookie :P

Kanabia

05-09-2005, 20:01

Roots! blooody roots!

guess what i'm listening to and win a cookie :P

SEPULTURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Swimmingpool

05-09-2005, 20:02

Roots! blooody roots!

guess what i'm listening to and win a cookie :P
Sepultura, as usual! What are they singing about?

Do you like Carcass? You surely must.

NuMetal

05-09-2005, 20:46

Of all the bands on that list that I've heard, or know a little something about, none of them are Nu Metal, despite your screen name...

I know that...I think I've even mentioned in my sig that I don't really listen to numetal.

Greater Googlia

05-09-2005, 20:49

I know that...I think I've even mentioned in my sig that I don't really listen to numetal.
Oh, yep, looky there. Oh well, as long as you realize that, it's fine. I'm a bit of a Nu Metal fan myself.

Squornshelous

05-09-2005, 20:52

currently listening to "In the Dark Mind" by Immortal, pretty good song.

NuMetal

05-09-2005, 22:06

Oh, yep, looky there. Oh well, as long as you realize that, it's fine. I'm a bit of a Nu Metal fan myself.

Heh, well I certainly don't mind System of a Down or DFD.

Draconis Nightcrawlis

05-09-2005, 22:14

Been listening to Bathory alot today.

Pure Metal

05-09-2005, 22:14

SEPULTURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Sepultura, as usual! What are they singing about?

fuck yeah! it wasn't hard, was it?:D
and singing about? right now its to Refuse! Resist! ;)

Do you like Carcass? You surely must.
hmm yeah i heard of for sure, and i think i've heard some stuff... i think i liked but without P2P its hard to find new music like that :(
seem to remember they were kinda like Crowbar, right?
(but will have p2p back in about 2 weeks w00t!)

edit: anybody like german band Metallium?
or how about Cathedral (http://home.comcast.net/~emailsforpay/rockZ/C_D/cathedral.html)? (just found em - me likey :P)

edit2: listening to some Death. pretty damn cool - think i'll be getting me some of this http://a425.v8384d.c8384.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/426/8384/3b858b51/mtvrdstr.download.akamai.com/8512/wmp/0/5186/7326_1_1_05.asf :)

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