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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publ...icle_7267.shtml


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While President George W. Bush travels around the country in a last-ditch effort to sell his Iraq war, White House aides scramble frantically behind the scenes to hide the dark mood of an increasingly angry leader who unleashes obscenity-filled outbursts at anyone who dares disagree with him.

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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml

“I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,” Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. “She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!”

Dr. Frank explains Bush’s behavior as all-to-typical of an alcoholic who is still in denial:

“The pattern of blame and denial, which recovering alcoholics work so hard to break, seems to be ingrained in the alcoholic personality; it's rarely limited to his or her drinking,” he says. “The habit of placing blame and denying responsibility is so prevalent in George W. Bush's personal history that it is apparently triggered by even the mildest threat.”


Bush is losing it.

Tra?

Dang. I wish they had some of that on camera. It would defuse any doubts I have and be a good laugh (not to mention the end of his political carreer).

Wow...

No, seriously, this is extremely fucked up. If this is accurate, then it means we've been governed by a moronic bully...

Tra?
I think you're right...it's gotta be MKULTRA!!

Where have you been Tra?

Well they do have a couple of videos of him giving the finger. And then there is the drunken wedding party taken a few years after he went sober.

http://www.thesimpsonsquotes.com/images/hutz_pointing.gif

Well, Your Honor. We've plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence.

People...people...look at the source for this argument. It ain't the NY Times. Also, look at this guy's other thread....

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=441873

This has got to be another reincarnation of the often mentioned, much revered, MKULTRA or else a wannabe clone.

Meh.

I am not buying it.

They tend to keep "medical" conditions quiet and I really doubt they would let it out he was on anti-depressants......

It's hard to tell how true it is. It is hearsay. But there were a few times in the debates with Kerry when he almost lost it but kept it under control for the most part. One moment that sticks out in my mind is the "You forgot Poland" moment.

*searches*

...I can't find squat on Bush and anti-depressants. But I'm willing to bet it's only a matter of time.

I don't know why you all rush to assume it's MK ULTRA. I think the meat of the article is of greater interest than the identity of the person posting the link, anyway. Mr. Bush has an apparently uncanny knack for avoiding scrutiny, and having read 'insider' reports on the White House earlier in his Presidency, this is not too terribly surprising.

I think America would be shocked by the reality of the man they ended up with as Prez two terms running. If this stuff were being more widely reported.

*edit: Zooke, I really hope you don't go trying to derail this thread with an old-fashioned MK ULTRA hunt, now...

omg
lol

he is the little tantrum throwing kid I thought he would be when things didn't go his way:


Bush, administration aides confide, frequently explodes into tirades over those who protest the war, calling them “motherfucking traitors.” He reportedly was so upset over Veterans of Foreign Wars members who wore “bullshit protectors” over their ears during his speech to their annual convention that he told aides to “tell those VFW assholes that I’ll never speak to them again if they can’t keep their members under control.”

White House insiders say Bush is growing increasingly bitter over mounting opposition to his war in Iraq. Polls show a vast majority of Americans now believe the war was a mistake and most doubt the President’s honesty.

“Who gives a flying fuck what the polls say,” he screamed at a recent strategy meeting. “I’m the President and I’ll do whatever I goddamned please. They don’t know shit.”

Is this the latest incarnation of the Red Arrow/MKULTRA/Skaepdroe?

He sees that the Republican dominance he's built up is caving in. People are pissed at him and his allies in Congress for their absolutely horrendous leadership on the deficit, the seemingly endless pit of money and lives in Iraq, high oil prices and the lack of response to them, and so on.

People are tired of it; his approval rating is tanking and everything's melting down. This is panic, and I can understand this behavior.

Is this the latest incarnation of the Red Arrow/MKULTRA/Skaepdroe?

Does it have to be, or do you just want it to be?

Sounds like the latter.

Does it have to be, or do you just want it to be?

Sounds like the latter.
The signs are there: copy and pasting articles, blaming everything on Bush, etc. I just haven't seen a Democracy Now article yet.

Stop trying to derail the thread with the MK ULTRA-hunting crapola. This is the sort of info no-one's been officially privvy to for five years. I wouldn't care who provided the link.

http://www.thesimpsonsquotes.com/images/hutz_pointing.gif

Well, Your Honor. We've plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence.
Fass, I now respect you.

Stop trying to derail the thread with the MK ULTRA-hunting crapola. This is the sort of info no-one's been officially privvy to for five years. I wouldn't care who provided the link.
Okay. I'm just asking because he told me who he was before.

Okay. I'm just asking because he told me who he was before.
Well, if he already told you, then you already knew - which begs the question - why bother asking in the first place?

:confused:

Well, if he already told you, then you already knew - which begs the question - why bother asking in the first place?

:confused:
He didn't already tell me. He's told me in the past. But, needless to say, I'm an incarnation of a nation that I haven't told anyone yet, either.

Pfft. All this cloak-and-dagger stuff bores me. So who are you pretending not to be?

Pfft. All this cloak-and-dagger stuff bores me. So who are you pretending not to be?
I was New Anthrus. Remember him?

awww, good old capitolhillblue, the source that all the mainstream looks to for fair, factual and accurate reporting. :rolleyes:

I think America would be shocked by the reality of the man they ended up with as Prez two terms running. If this stuff were being more widely reported.



When you say more widely reported, you mean reported beyond a site who's slogan is "Because nobody's life, liberty or property are safe while Congress is in session or the White House is occupied" right? Okayyyy... :rolleyes:

Slander the President with hearsay and conjecture, they would never.

I think you're right...it's gotta be MKULTRA!!

Where have you been Tra?
if theres one thing I notised about NS is that when people reveal who they truely are they get deated for no apparent reason

I don't know why you all rush to assume it's MK ULTRA. I think the meat of the article is of greater interest than the identity of the person posting the link, anyway. Mr. Bush has an apparently uncanny knack for avoiding scrutiny, and having read 'insider' reports on the White House earlier in his Presidency, this is not too terribly surprising.

I think America would be shocked by the reality of the man they ended up with as Prez two terms running. If this stuff were being more widely reported.

*edit: Zooke, I really hope you don't go trying to derail this thread with an old-fashioned MK ULTRA hunt, now...
I agree

who is who isnt important--we must focus on the resident evil in power now

Is this the latest incarnation of the Red Arrow/MKULTRA/Skaepdroe?
identity is a manmade construct

we are all children of God

I was New Anthrus. Remember him?
aye ;)

This is the biggest crock of shit I've ever seen. Why? Here's why:

“I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch... She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!”

“...tell those VFW assholes that I’ll never speak to them again is they can’t keep their members under control.”

“Who gives a flying fuck what the polls say, I’m the President and I’ll do whatever I goddamned please. They don’t know shit."

As if three out of three quotes of things Bush has said are wholly intelligible and without made-up words. Seriously, what are the odds of that?

Oh, yeah, and the website has a section called "Bush Leagues." That was a tip-off, too.

if theres one thing I notised about NS is that when people reveal who they truely are they get deated for no apparent reason
It's because you're DOS, man.

I was New Anthrus. Remember him?
Dude! What's up? Remember me, Armandian Cheese from the big asexuality debates?

This is the biggest crock of shit I've ever seen. Why? Here's why:



As if three out of three quotes of things Bush has said are wholly intelligible and without made-up words. Seriously, what are the odds of that?

Oh, yeah, and the website has a section called "Bush Leagues." That was a tip-off, too.

*hi five's Aldranin*

You win this thread.

Hm...this seems like the left's Foxnews, in website-only form and without a bully as one of their prominant figures.

I don't know why you all rush to assume it's MK ULTRA.

The writing style is dead-on, especially the thread titles. I have very little doubt that it's him.

I call BS...

[bsflag]

bsflag

Hey why doesn't this forum have a BS flag emoticon?

I like the way people here are questioning the merit of the arguement based on who pasted it. As if the person going copy/paste effects the validity.

Fass, I now respect you.

First, defending Bush, and now respect from a conservative. This day is getting too weird.

Dude! What's up? Remember me, Armandian Cheese from the big asexuality debates?
Oh. Hi, there. I'm more of an extremist then back then, so I must warn you.

First, defending Bush, and now respect from a conservative. This day is getting too weird.
I don’t think I can be called a conservative, Fass, at least politically. I fully support your right to marry whoever you want to. Though, I don’t think you would really be one to take advantage of that right. It just doesn't seem like your style. ;)
So weird out, not.

“I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,” Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. “She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!”



Hell if i was president, a meeting would go like this



Good evening america. Today some God damn bastardly cowards bombed a civilian convoy in iraq. We are going to kill those fuckers.


(I would swear at her too..)

I don’t think I can be called a conservative, Fass, at least politically. I fully support your right to marry whoever you want to. Though, I don’t think you would really be one to take advantage of that right. It just doesn't seem like your style. ;)

Well, if the right guy asks, you never know!

So weird out, not.

*calms down*

This article is not news. It is satire. S-A-T-I-R-E. Satire. The things people believe... Jonathan Swift must be rolling in his grave.

I like the way people here are questioning the merit of the arguement based on who pasted it. As if the person going copy/paste effects the validity.

Fair enough, although the article's lack of merit is pretty obvious on its own. It reads like a compiliation of every half-joking comment I've ever heard from Bush detractors trying to capture the essence of "what Bush is really thinking." It references an incident in which Bush purportedly flicked off reporters at a CAFTA conference, even though the reporters in question later confirmed that Bush was in fact giving a thumbs-up. And they top it off with psychoanalysis by a psychiatrist to whom, as far as I know, Bush has never even spoken -- not the kind of guy who's likely to be an expert on the President's mental health.

This article is not news. It is satire. S-A-T-I-R-E. Satire. The things people believe... Jonathan Swift must be rolling in his grave.

Unfortunately, it's not. Capitol Hill Blue seems to be more like the liberal version of NewsMax. While both sites are more entertaining to read as satire, neither is intended that way.

This doesn't sound much worse than Nixon, and Nixon's comments were recorded on tape. I think this very well could be true, especially given Bush's fondness for the occasional obscene gesture.

This doesn't sound much worse than Nixon, and Nixon's comments were recorded on tape. I think this very well could be true, especially given Bush's fondness for the occasional obscene gesture.
Makes for one hell of a needlessly unpleasant working environment. The man needn't lash out at his staff. If he's upset, maybe he should be upset with himself instead of throwing tantrums?

Makes for one hell of a needlessly unpleasant working environment. The man needn't lash out at his staff. If he's upset, maybe he should be upset with himself instead of throwing tantrums?

Well, I think I'll wait until I see something on a half-respectable source of news, printed or otherwise, before I assume that the US President has been screaming profanity and racist remarks at his staff and the rest of what the article says. If this were true, I can guarantee you won't be first reading about it there - CNN would be doing endless coverage and every anti-Bush talk show would be having an absolute field day.

You people need to stop being so gullible with everything you find on the Internet.

satire, propaganda, god's honest truth -- who cares? it's funny!

we can give it credibility by putting it into a context. let's pick one. i suggest something i saw with my very own eyes -- and maybe some of you did, too -- when bush was running the first time, he was on the david letterman show, i think it was, and when they went to commercial, all the staffers came onto the set to do this and that. a woman wearing a long scarf was standing with her back to bush and he wiped his glasses (he wears glasses sometimes) on the end of her scarf without her knowing it. then he looked around, grinning like a little kid who got away with something!!

so even though it's almost certainly not true, i'll let myself enjoy this little article just so i can have a laugh at somebody's expense, too -- just like our miserable little twerp of a president.

I'm still not impressed with people who thought it was a good idea to invade Iraq but later changed their minds. Flip-floppers.

As for the article, well it COULD be true. Easily. I mean who really believes he's Mister Mild-Manners? Raise your hand...

Antre_Travarious']awww, good old capitolhillblue, the source that all the mainstream looks to for fair, factual and accurate reporting. :rolleyes:

What? They are Fox News???

This article is not news. It is satire. S-A-T-I-R-E. Satire. The things people believe... Jonathan Swift must be rolling in his grave.

They don't teach that in school anymore.

If this were true, I can guarantee you won't be first reading about it there - CNN would be doing endless coverage and every anti-Bush talk show would be having an absolute field day.
Not if they ever wanted to be in another white house press conference/release they wouldn't.

Not if they ever wanted to be in another white house press conference/release they wouldn't.


It wouldnt matter.

Apparently, all White House Press conferences are entirely scripted anyway, whenever Bush is giving one.

Read "Spanking the Donkey".

if theres one thing I notised about NS is that when people reveal who they truely are they get deated for no apparent reason

Only those who have previously claimed to have a direct line to God. In my opinion there is a mod conspiracy to shield us all from the words of the Lord.

Wow...

No, seriously, this is extremely fucked up. If this is accurate, then it means we've been governed by a moronic bully...

Wow. You... you are a fast one aren't ya? Welcome to 1999's Republican national convention with Bush vs John McCain.

I can bet a lot doesn't get past your quick wit! You got them l33t skillz, and are strong with the force aren't ya?

WELL MY PENIS IS BIGGER THAN A QUARTERBACK. AND IT ALSO FIGURED THAT FACT OUT ALREADY. YOU FAIL. CAPLOCKS DAMAGE!

if theres one thing I notised about NS is that when people reveal who they truely are they get deated for no apparent reason

Well, little buddy, if you're who I think you are, welcome back. Although I never posted in them I really enjoyed the threads you used to start. Just watch it on the trolling this time and stick around. And never waver from using your preferred sources...they're very "informative" If you're not him, however, you have a big job ahead of you filling his shoes.

As for the article...ROFLMAO!!!!

:D Hee hee. I can imagine him yelling and running around in a stetson scaring poor little interns :D

:D Hee hee. I can imagine him yelling and running around in a stetson scaring poor little interns :D

If this is our old MKULTRA, he's going to thin out the weak hearted n00bs for us real quick!! Man, I've missed him. I almost feel like crying.

The idea that this is from a liberal news site is not true.

What are your politics?
None. We believe it is the job of journalists to report the news, not be influenced by political beliefs or bias. Our publisher took break from journalism in the 80s to work for Republicans but is, and always has been, a registered independent voter. Neither he nor our editor have ever voted a straight ticket. We consider ourselves recovering newspapermen. A few also served sentences on Capitol Hill. Experience in either, or both, of these endeavors creates political agnostics.

We subscribe to legendary Chicago journalist Finley Peter Dunne's belief that it is the role of a newspaperman to "comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable."

They seem to be critical of any president in office, not just the current occupier.
That also does not mean that the reports on Bush are completely true because it is based on hearsay. The thing is, it's not a very far fetched story.

Wow, the president swears... Big fucking deal, almost everyone swears, why should the president be banned from it. At least he has the decency to do it off camera. And at least he isn't getting his dick sucked like Bill. He is human like all of us, I wouldn't even care if he smoked or drank. And for the record, Cindy Sheehan is a bitch. She is coming up here to Maine soon to protest the Blue Angels, saying they should be banned :rolleyes:

The idea that this is from a liberal news site is not true.

Not a liberal site, a wackjob site.

Wow, the president swears... Big fucking deal, almost everyone swears, why should the president be banned from it. At least he has the decency to do it off camera. And at least he isn't getting his dick sucked like Bill. He is human like all of us, I wouldn't even care if he smoked or drank. And for the record, Cindy Sheehan is a bitch. She is coming up here to Maine soon to protest the Blue Angels, saying they should be banned :rolleyes:
You support having a drinking alcoholic in the White House?

OMGZ BUSH CURSED! :o LOLZ

No, seriously, who cares? He's not the first president to have a fiery temper and he won't be the last. He has the weight of the world on his shoulders, so it's not surprising that he snaps at people when he's frustrated and angry. Hell, if that's all he does, I think he's handling himself quite well. I can't believe anybody's 'outraged' about this. Good lord, get a hobby.

The idea that this is from a liberal news site is not true.

What are your politics?
None. We believe it is the job of journalists to report the news, not be influenced by political beliefs or bias. Our publisher took break from journalism in the 80s to work for Republicans but is, and always has been, a registered independent voter. Neither he nor our editor have ever voted a straight ticket. We consider ourselves recovering newspapermen. A few also served sentences on Capitol Hill. Experience in either, or both, of these endeavors creates political agnostics.

We subscribe to legendary Chicago journalist Finley Peter Dunne's belief that it is the role of a newspaperman to "comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable."

Political leanings are entirely irrelevant. The article is not professionally written or particularly believable. Its claims are unsubstantiated, it includes some very unconvincing "expert analysis," and it contains at least one known factual error. I don't buy it, and neither should anyone else.

I don't neccisarily buy the article (but does it really seem that unbelievable that something like it is happening? I mean, really?) even if it was completely accurate not even a Face in the Crowd style moment where Bush taunted all the 'little idiots out there' into a camera a disenfranchised former supporter had turned on would not shake the faithful.

Fuck man, they'd cheer. "Huh huh, yeah. Fuck dem bastards. I'm glad the president has the balls to say dat." That's the dudes apeal. It certainly not his statesmenship. At best this revelation is treading water.

Taken one way, so what. He cursed. Who cares? Taken another, he has a job to do. I mean, a friend of mine got fired from the fucking Gap for saying "Shit" in front of a customer. I mean he's the fucking president of the United Fucking States.
Mostly, it's not the cursing that bothers me. It's what the cursing implies. He's angry, frazzled and unsure of himself. All this "I speak from the gut" talk seems, to me at least, to be a bunch of macho posturing.

And there is a Bush Curse of a different kind, too.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/18/1066364531339.html

I like the way people here are questioning the merit of the arguement based on who pasted it. As if the person going copy/paste effects the validity.
because when those people who defend the indefensible cannot attack the message itself they resort to smearing the messenger as the next best thing

The message is garbage, from a garbage website with no credability. No need to attack the messenger.

Well, I think I'll wait until I see something on a half-respectable source of news, printed or otherwise, before I assume that the US President has been screaming profanity and racist remarks at his staff and the rest of what the article says. If this were true, I can guarantee you won't be first reading about it there - CNN would be doing endless coverage and every anti-Bush talk show would be having an absolute field day.

You people need to stop being so gullible with everything you find on the Internet.
it never ceases to amaze me that people give ANY credabilty at all to neocon corporate controlled media propaganda outlets like CNN as if they dont also have their own agenda either. The way the mainstream media has been acting lately I think these other sources of information are the ones that are more reliable

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml

Wow such an objectionable news source. Wow, I'm sure we won't find any biased on a well known Democrat/liberal news source. :rolleyes:

Only those who have previously claimed to have a direct line to God. In my opinion there is a mod conspiracy to shield us all from the words of the Lord.
they must be trying to overthrow God and put themselves in his place apparently considering the arbitrary and highly selectively enforced rules that they only enforce for their own personal agendas

“I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,” Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. “She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!”

Dr. Frank explains Bush’s behavior as all-to-typical of an alcoholic who is still in denial.
Well, I agree with him and I have had a few beers. So I guess he and I are peas in a pod. Of course, you'd have to include the families that have gone to their little memorial and reclaimed the names of their loved ones who would be shamed to be part of such bull shit.

Well, little buddy, if you're who I think you are, welcome back. Although I never posted in them I really enjoyed the threads you used to start. Just watch it on the trolling this time and stick around. And never waver from using your preferred sources...they're very "informative" If you're not him, however, you have a big job ahead of you filling his shoes.

As for the article...ROFLMAO!!!!
I remember you clearly--also I always disagreed with the overly broad manner in which so-called "trolling" was defined around here. Theres a difference between mindless trolling using irrelevant topics done just to be mischievous and the kind of trolling thats done as a form of activism and militant resistance to fascism. Its too bad the mods dont have any insight at all into seeing that difference

You support having a drinking alcoholic in the White House?
Im sure alot harder drugs then alcohol have been used in the White House before :rolleyes:

OMGZ BUSH CURSED! :o LOLZ

No, seriously, who cares? He's not the first president to have a fiery temper and he won't be the last. He has the weight of the world on his shoulders, so it's not surprising that he snaps at people when he's frustrated and angry. Hell, if that's all he does, I think he's handling himself quite well. I can't believe anybody's 'outraged' about this. Good lord, get a hobby.
unfortunately thats not ALL he does --he also happens to be destroying global stabilty and threatening to make nuclear annihilation an almost certain outcome

unfortunately thats not ALL he does --he also happens to be destroying global stabilty and threatening to make nuclear annihilation an almost certain outcome
I hope you and all your friends sitting around your computer are having a good time typing this garbage. Cuz I am having a good laugh at your expense.

Antre_Travarious']I hope you and all your friends sitting around your computer are having a good time typing this garbage. Cuz I am having a good laugh at your expense.
well I guess if you view death as liberation we can all laugh on our way into the next life--just remember when your preparing to die in a nuclear blast try to be at ground zero. The survivors will die far more slower and painfully

Bush is losing it.

nero II.

I remember you clearly--also I always disagreed with the overly broad manner in which so-called "trolling" was defined around here. Theres a difference between mindless trolling using irrelevant topics done just to be mischievous and the kind of trolling thats done as a form of activism and militant resistance to fascism. Its too bad the mods dont have any insight at all into seeing that difference

I'm surprised. I stay below the observation radar of most NSers unless I come into one-on-one contact with them on a thread. I must have let something fly to be noticed. I don't know what specific post(s) got you deated, but I'm not sure that the nature of your threads were the cause. And, your actions after being deated created a lot of problems for the mods. Not good. And, this is all assuming you are MKULTRA.

because when those people who defend the indefensible cannot attack the message itself they resort to smearing the messenger as the next best thing

I've already explained, twice why the message is likely false. I've yet to see anyone defend it. The ball's in your court.

nero II.
its true that while poor blacks were drowning in waters up to their necks in NO that Bush was discovered joyfully playing a guitar

Wow...

No, seriously, this is extremely fucked up. If this is accurate, then it means we've been governed by a moronic bully...

It's taken you this long to figure that out? *LOL* :p

I'm surprised. I stay below the observation radar of most NSers unless I come into one-on-one contact with them on a thread. I must have let something fly to be noticed. I don't know what specific post(s) got you deated, but I'm not sure that the nature of your threads were the cause. And, your actions after being deated created a lot of problems for the mods. Not good. And, this is all assuming you are MKULTRA.
I remmeber speaking with you one-on-one in an MKULTRA thread. Im not sure I know what you mean in the second half of your post

It's taken you this long to figure that out? *LOL* :p
Wow your back :cool:

welcome back MKULTRA, we missed you.

While President George W. Bush travels around the country in a last-ditch effort to sell his Iraq war

His Iraq war? That one supported by the 70% of US citizens when began?

welcome back MKULTRA, we missed you.

Whoa, you're still alive!?

His Iraq war? That one supported by the 70% of US citizens when began?

70% of the POLLED citizens. That wasn't even 40% of the population. I believe it was about 31%...

His Iraq war? That one supported by the 70% of US citizens when began?
Yeah, his war. He lied to get it.

welcome back MKULTRA, we missed you.
after ALL this time it still says "cabbage patch girl" under your name :D

Pfft. All this cloak-and-dagger stuff bores me. So who are you pretending not to be?

Heh. Nice.

His Iraq war? That one supported by the 70% of US citizens when began?
funny--I remember millions of people all around the world in demonstrations that broke all kinda records in their turnout in opposition to Bush forcing this totally unnecessary and unwinnable war on the rest of us--Im even going to one of these massive demonstrations in DC on the 29th for United for Peace and Justice. You should attend. You could find out all the ways Bush lied to you

His Iraq war? That one supported by the 70% of US citizens when began?

Don't forgot the Senate voted for it. Including the democrats.

70% of the POLLED citizens. That wasn't even 40% of the population. I believe it was about 31%...
I highly doubt this 70% stat as well. If 70% of Americans truely did support having another Veitnam war then the neocon corporate controlled pro war media wouldnt have expendes so much energy in invisibilizing numerous and HUGE anti-war protests

It's weird that if you attack Bush, that makes you a Democrat. Democrats seem to be closer to my interests but they are not much better than Republicans. If you see only two sides of an issue.... I can't do it. Somebody else finish that sentence.

Canada City']Don't forgot the Senate voted for it. Including the democrats.
yes after Bush lied to and misled them as well

yes after Bush lied to and misled them as well

He didn't lie. Intelligence from AROUND THE FREAKING WORLD said he had WMD. Even the Clinton Adminstration said Saddam had to go. Years before Bush became president.

EDIT: Source, that links to even more sources - http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mostert/040816

Retarded liberals. :headbang:

Canada City']He didn't lie. Intelligence from AROUND THE FREAKING WORLD said he had WMD. Even the Clinton Adminstration said Saddam had to go. Years before Bush became president.

Retarded liberals. :headbang:
You must live in a different reality than I do. Do some research. Read what the CIA had to say about it. He did lie. You know what? I said he lied 3 years ago. And then no WMD was found. So, I was right. Blame me. I tried to get in touch with Bush but he wouldn't accept my calls.

You must live in a different reality than I do. Do some research. Read what the CIA had to say about it. He did lie. You know what? I said he lied 3 years ago. And then no WMD was found. So, I was right. Blame me. I tried to get in touch with Bush but he wouldn't accept my calls.

Noticed you passed by the sources. No wonder the democrats have so much in common with Michael Moore.

Canada City']

EDIT: Source, that links to even more sources - http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mostert/040816


"In the United States, Where the Bush administration has called an inquiry, sceptics are convinced that it is a political stitch-up. "It's bullshit," said Ray McGovern, a retired CIA analyst with 27 years of experience"
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5618.htm

I don't know. Maybe I trust him more than this lady. http://www.bannerofliberty.com/2mary98.JPG

"In the United States, Where the Bush administration has called an inquiry, sceptics are convinced that it is a political stitch-up. "It's bullshit," said Ray McGovern, a retired CIA analyst with 27 years of experience"
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5618.htm

I don't know. Maybe I trust him more than this lady. http://www.bannerofliberty.com/2mary98.JPG

A CIA's opinion over a woman who has linked to offical NEWS SOURCES like CNN with Clinton saying those quotes? :rolleyes:

I'll laugh when you guys lose the 2008 elections.

Canada City']A CIA's opinion over a woman who has linked to offical NEWS SOURCES like CNN with Clinton saying those quotes? :rolleyes:

I'll laugh when you guys lose the 2008 elections.
Uh... yeah. I'm kind of laughing at your response now. Whoo... CNN.

It's weird that if you attack Bush, that makes you a Democrat. Democrats seem to be closer to my interests but they are not much better than Republicans. If you see only two sides of an issue.... I can't do it. Somebody else finish that sentence.

The correct answer is, "If you see only two sides of an issue, that's one more than most of America."

The correct answer is, "If you see only two sides of an issue, that's one more than most of America."
Sad and too true.

Canada City']He didn't lie. Intelligence from AROUND THE FREAKING WORLD said he had WMD. Even the Clinton Adminstration said Saddam had to go. Years before Bush became president.

EDIT: Source, that links to even more sources - http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mostert/040816

Retarded liberals. :headbang:
two words---Downing Street Memos

AND if Saddam DID have WMDS then:
1) Where are they?
2)Why didnt he Use them when we attacked him unprovoked?
3).I dont care what Clinton or anyone else said about the issue it was ONLY Bush would fixed the intel and did all other sorts of sick and evil things to find an excuse to attack a nation that never lifted a finger against us
4)Bush was behind the firing of UN weapons inspector Mohammad el Baradei who insisted he coulda proved in 2002 that Iraq def. did NOT have anymore WMDs by the time Bush was fearmongering and lying to get us trapped in this costly quagmire

You must live in a different reality than I do. Do some research. Read what the CIA had to say about it. He did lie. You know what? I said he lied 3 years ago. And then no WMD was found. So, I was right. Blame me. I tried to get in touch with Bush but he wouldn't accept my calls.
he wouldnt have listened to you anyway--Bush is terrified of real people
Bushs agenda goes WAY beyond Iraq in the mideast. Iraq was just attacked first cause Bush KNEW it was unarmed and helpless and he planned on using Iraq as his foothold for eventual fullscale regional war in the mideast and the fact that hes building permanent bases there is further proof of this

Canada City']Noticed you passed by the sources. No wonder the democrats have so much in common with Michael Moore.
yeah--like Michael Moore their sources are more credable

he wouldnt have listened to you anyway--Bush is terrified of real people
Bushs agenda goes WAY beyond Iraq in the mideast. Iraq was just attacked first cause Bush KNEW it was unarmed and helpless and he planned on using Iraq as his foothold for eventual fullscale regional war in the mideast and the fact that hes building permanent bases there is further proof of this
Republicans should really give up talking about the WMD's just like Bush has done. After all, it was the liberation of Iraq which sent us to war. It has always been the liberation of Iraq.

Canada City']A CIA's opinion over a woman who has linked to offical NEWS SOURCES like CNN with Clinton saying those quotes? :rolleyes:

I'll laugh when you guys lose the 2008 elections.
theres more CIA agents who agree that Bush lied then who defend Bushs lies

The correct answer is, "If you see only two sides of an issue, that's one more than most of America."
the reason for this is partly because the neocon corporate controlled media doesnt do its job in informing the American people anymore

Republicans should really give up talking about the WMD's just like Bush has done. After all, it was the liberation of Iraq which sent us to war. It has always been the liberation of Iraq.
yes--Bush "liberated" Iraq from a secular dictator and handed it over to far worse religious terrorists and is making it into another Iran--strange definition of "liberation" that Bush has :rolleyes:

I despair that some people thought this thread was serious.

Though it would be funny if he really had said that stuff.

I despair that some people thought this thread was serious.

Though it would be funny if he really had said that stuff.
You haven't gone to the link, have you? The article wasn't written as satire. Yes, I know what satire is.

the reason for this is partly because the neocon corporate controlled media doesnt do its job in informing the American people anymore

That's great. I'm glad to see you still feel that way. Now are you going to answer my objections to the article, or are you ready to concede that it's poorly written and of questionable validity?

Bush SuXorz!

That's great. I'm glad to see you still feel that way. Now are you going to answer my objections to the article, or are you ready to concede that it's poorly written and of questionable validity?
I didn't think it was poorly written and if you read the thread I acknowledged it's questionability. Using anonymous sources is what journalists do sometimes. What else you got?

I didn't think it was poorly written and if you read the thread I acknowledged it's questionability. Using anonymous sources is what journalists do sometimes. What else you got?

I was addressing CP specifically, but I'll tell you what I've got. Allow me to quote myself:

Fair enough, although the article's lack of merit is pretty obvious on its own. It reads like a compiliation of every half-joking comment I've ever heard from Bush detractors trying to capture the essence of "what Bush is really thinking." It references an incident in which Bush purportedly flicked off reporters at a CAFTA conference, even though the reporters in question later confirmed that Bush was in fact giving a thumbs-up. And they top it off with psychoanalysis by a psychiatrist to whom, as far as I know, Bush has never even spoken -- not the kind of guy who's likely to be an expert on the President's mental health.

Everything's a little skewed. This website is painting Bush to be a raving lunatic at the end of his tether. The conservative news sources are painting him as Joe Cool. The truth is always in the middle.

While I doubt he's telling everyone to "Fuck Off" I'm sure he's upset. This Iraq thing isn't going as well as he hoped, despite his constantly saying "Stay the course, everything is working to plan". Even members of his own party are trying to distance themselves, so he doesn't bring them all down.

On top of that remember being president is a very stressful job (insert obvious jokes about 12 week vacations here), and I'm sure he gets pissed off.

Republicans should really give up talking about the WMD's just like Bush has done. After all, it was the liberation of Iraq which sent us to war. It has always been the liberation of Iraq.

we are at war with eastasia. we have always been at war with eastasia.

George Orwell has a lot to answer for.

Everything's a little skewed. This website is painting Bush to be a raving lunatic at the end of his tether. The conservative news sources are painting him as Joe Cool. The truth is always in the middle.

While I doubt he's telling everyone to "Fuck Off" I'm sure he's upset. This Iraq thing isn't going as well as he hoped, despite his constantly saying "Stay the course, everything is working to plan". Even members of his own party are trying to distance themselves, so he doesn't bring them all down.

On top of that remember being president is a very stressful job (insert obvious jokes about 12 week vacations here), and I'm sure he gets pissed off.
he must suffer every day he remains in office--hes far more dangerous then his toolbag Osama

Everything's a little skewed. This website is painting Bush to be a raving lunatic at the end of his tether. The conservative news sources are painting him as Joe Cool. The truth is always in the middle.

Well, not always. It's always possible for one side to be completely wrong. In this case, though, you're probably right.

The irony of all this is that Bush would likely be less stresed if he hadn't taken a 12-week vacation.

Oh. Hi, there. I'm more of an extremist then back then, so I must warn you. Oh Lord… I remember trying to talk sense into you. Those weren't really your views, were you?

(although I have to say, I was a damn sight more tolerant than everybody else!)