NationStates Jolt Archive


Civil Rights leader claiming African-Americans are eating corpses in N. O.

[NS]Antre_Travarious
03-09-2005, 01:44
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/randall-robinson/new-orleans_b_6643.html

"It is reported that black hurricane victims in New Orleans have begun eating corpses to survive. Four days after the storm, thousands of blacks in New Orleans are dying like dogs. No-one has come to help them."
Economic Associates
03-09-2005, 01:54
Sounds interesting but I haven't heard about this yet and there was no link in his work to any source that actually says this. Can anyone find some sources on this?
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 01:54
Antre_Travarious']http://www.huffingtonpost.com/randall-robinson/new-orleans_b_6643.html

"It is reported that black hurricane victims in New Orleans have begun eating corpses to survive. Four days after the storm, thousands of blacks in New Orleans are dying like dogs. No-one has come to help them."

Hmmm so I guess they must have had a mardi-gras style feast to eat all that food they looted....Carrying plasma TVs must be tough :D
Copiosa Scotia
03-09-2005, 01:56
If this turns out to be true, does anyone still want to claim that the survivors didn't really need to steal food from the grocery stores?
Phasa
03-09-2005, 01:57
One doesn't starve to death in four days.
Vetalia
03-09-2005, 01:57
If this turns out to be true, does anyone still want to claim that the survivors didn't really need to steal food from the grocery stores?

I don't think anyone sensible's claiming that. The police are letting people taking food do it.
Jah Bootie
03-09-2005, 01:59
I don't really buy this story. I can't imagine how hungry someone has to get before they fish a four day old corpse out of infested water and start chowing down, but I would imagine it is hungrier than you can get in a few days. Then again, I've never been four days without food, so I don't guess I would know.
Jah Bootie
03-09-2005, 02:01
I don't think anyone sensible's claiming that. The police are letting people taking food do it.
Actually, several people were. Someone in the Martial Law thread wondered aloud why these miscreants didn't simply go to one of the wonderful, food filled shelters that the wonderful FEMA had set up for them.
[NS]Antre_Travarious
03-09-2005, 02:07
It is not the taking of food and water that is disgusting, it is the looting of jewlry, electronics and other speaciality stores that is sickening.
Dobbsworld
03-09-2005, 02:27
Antre_Travarious']It is not the taking of food and water that is disgusting, it is the looting of jewlry, electronics and other speaciality stores that is sickening.
Oh, honestly, who cares. Property is meaningless in the light of this ongoing crisis, there's a reason why things are insured. And things are never as important as people. I see posters losing sight of that.

Bloody materialistic consumerite culture. Talk about misplaced values.
Lotus Puppy
03-09-2005, 02:38
I wouldn't be surprised if it were true, and it may not apply to just blacks. Many, many people are starving there, and while things are improving, it's been pretty slow. This shouldn't happen in the US.
Phylum Chordata
03-09-2005, 02:44
One doesn't starve to death in four days.

True, but not many people realize that. Perhaps some sort of public announcment is required here. "People of New Orleans, relax! It takes at least two weeks to starve to death. I don't want to see any human flesh eating before then..."
CthulhuFhtagn
03-09-2005, 02:46
One doesn't starve to death in four days.
However, one dies of dehydration in four days. The human body is 70% water.
Iztatepopotla
03-09-2005, 02:53
I doubt that. First you have to clean them and cook them, which is a hassle, many must be already rotten and unfit for eating. Plus there's no clean water to make a good dish.

On the other hand... Mmmmmh... corpses...
Undelia
03-09-2005, 03:08
Oh, honestly, who cares. Property is meaningless in the light of this ongoing crisis, there's a reason why things are insured. And things are never as important as people. I see posters losing sight of that.

Bloody materialistic consumerite culture. Talk about misplaced values.
We ain’t the ones stealing luxury items when we’re short on food. Now that’s materialistic.
[NS]Antre_Travarious
03-09-2005, 03:29
We ain’t the ones stealing luxury items when we’re short on food. Now that’s materialistic.
No kidding, but try to convince the elightened of this forum of that.
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 04:12
I doubt that. First you have to clean them and cook them, which is a hassle, many must be already rotten and unfit for eating. Plus there's no clean water to make a good dish.

On the other hand... Mmmmmh... corpses...

It's a good time to be a zombie, no? The rest of the city may starve itself, but you'll be doing A-OK.
Dobbsworld
03-09-2005, 04:23
We ain’t the ones stealing luxury items when we’re short on food. Now that’s materialistic.
I heard that interview with the Mayor of New Orleans where he was describing a number of looters as strung-out junkies going through withdrawal, those were the ones breaking into pharmacies and hospitals presumably with some of the weapons that have also been looted. I'd suggest a number of these people are availing themselves of the valuable consumer items as bankable insurance for the eventual post-disaster period. And hey, you know you're right, it is pretty materialistic of those looters. But materialism is the cornerstone of the American Ethic these days; I hardly expect a sudden reversal towards communitarianism in four days. Basically, if they're materialist, that's because it's what they were brought up to be - what you've all been brought up to be, more or less. Consumers.
Amestria
03-09-2005, 10:43
DEFENCE OF THE REPUBLIC
OUR FOOD STOCKS ARE LOW
SAVE FOOD BY EATING LESS

No true citizen, no patriotic man or women will fail the CITY in this hour of need.

Peoples Committee Order 949




DEFENCE OF THE REPUBLIC

CANNIBALISM

The Public are reminded that the Eating of Human Flesh for whatsoever reason is against the LAW and is punishable by Death or a Fine of 50,000 Guineas.

Peoples Committee Order 398

(Government Declarations in The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. They are posted in a city under siege by an increasingly ineffective government which can only post declarations with efficiency. That movie sounds quite relevent...)
BackwoodsSquatches
03-09-2005, 10:54
"Donner...party of fifty?"
The blessed Chris
03-09-2005, 10:56
However, one dies of dehydration in four days. The human body is 70% water.

I can imagine the acquisition of water being an immense problem in a city thats several feet underwater.....
BackwoodsSquatches
03-09-2005, 11:01
I can imagine the acquisition of water being an immense problem in a city thats several feet underwater.....


You dont understand.

Drinking flood water is the quickest way to die.....slowly.

The amount of raw sewage, and bacteria floating in such water is staggering.

Since that water table is so high in that city that the dead muct be buried above ground, you can imagine the cesspool overflow.

Basicaly, its just about the dirtiest water there is..including canal water.

You would get so damn sick...you'd wish you were dead in hours.
The blessed Chris
03-09-2005, 11:14
You dont understand.

Drinking flood water is the quickest way to die.....slowly.

The amount of raw sewage, and bacteria floating in such water is staggering.

Since that water table is so high in that city that the dead muct be buried above ground, you can imagine the cesspool overflow.

Basicaly, its just about the dirtiest water there is..including canal water.

You would get so damn sick...you'd wish you were dead in hours.

Granted, couldn't resist though.

Has anyone else heard the rumours that a myriad of crocodiles/alligators and snakes are roaming the waterways, sorry streets :D , of New Orleans?
Phasa
03-09-2005, 12:20
Some friends and I were talking about the prison inmates being trucked to safety tonight, and it occurred to us that if you had a grudge against someone this would be the ideal time to murder them. There would be no crime scene to process by the time the water level dropped, nobody would probably pay attention to cause of death when they find the corpse a month from now. Nasty stuff, but one wonders if there will be fewer gang members and such around when the dust settles.
The blessed Chris
03-09-2005, 12:43
I wonder quite how many art works and the like will be irrevocably lost or stolen in the looting?
Jeruselem
03-09-2005, 14:00
You dont understand.

Drinking flood water is the quickest way to die.....slowly.

The amount of raw sewage, and bacteria floating in such water is staggering.

Since that water table is so high in that city that the dead muct be buried above ground, you can imagine the cesspool overflow.

Basicaly, its just about the dirtiest water there is..including canal water.

You would get so damn sick...you'd wish you were dead in hours.

Add the oil and chemicals from industry too.
Spooty
03-09-2005, 14:20
"Donner...party of fifty?"

"Thank you, Drive through"
Bahamamamma
03-09-2005, 14:40
Eating corpses - I don't believe it. I have not been four days without food - but when I was in college, and very poor, I often went three days without food. Sometime in the second day I would get really hungry and I would just close my eyes and try to meditate through the hunger pains. Within a few hours they would go away and I wouldn't feel hungry again. Now, if you are eating little bits - a cracker here and there - I would think the hunger pains would be much worse.

As for the looting:

If I was a NO business owner, I would say, "Have at it!"

It is much easier to collect under my insurance policy if I can show proof the store was looted and the items stolen. Otherwise, I would be arguing with the insurer over whether the items were damaged due to wind-driven rain (covered) versus damaged due to flood (not covered).

Steal away - and while you're at it, please set the place on fire too.
Sezyou
03-09-2005, 17:00
Watch Cnn please.. this is providing the most reliable sources and accurate information. Now the stores dont give a damn right now about the merchandise and they certainly dont want the people to starve to death either. Yesterday the military finally got through...and in case you didnt notice they had to use amphibious vehicles to get there... this might explain the delays as well. It is not that easy to reach... the only people who have a right to complain are the stranded people. Everyone who thinks this is funny and a time for stupid jokes needs to rethink it. The hospitals had people dying waiting to be airlifted it out... The government IS getting there..this is a MASS disaster that we HAVE NEVER seen before in our country. Now on the looting these are the criminal element who have decided they will do what they want when they want..so now martial law is being enforced which means shoot to kill. I think it is highly appropriate for the idiots who were shooting at hospitals and raping women in the bathrooms who were trying to tend to their children and clean themselves. This is why tough enforcement is needed. Nobody has the right to steal property at this time and hopefully these idiots will be the last ones evacuated if they do survive..personally I hope they all bite a bullet. You have to at least have some small sense of basic rules set or nobody will be able to survive for long. And on the racial issue , this simply is not an issue the reason why it is mainly African American is because (plenty of Caucasians were there too) these poor people are literally the poorest of the city and had no means of fleeing. They need to focus on that and not the race card. One thing will come out of this maybe the government will know next time how to plan for a huge catastrophe such as this. And to whoever is saying they responded quicker to New YOrk during 911 ... its easier to pull out the dead they dont need food and water . There werent any people to rescue or evacuate so all they needed were bulldozers and such.
Utracia
03-09-2005, 18:01
Does anyone actually believe this crap? I can understand that if after a long period of time some might actually lower themselves to doing something like this. After four days? Attacking people and stealing their food yes, but I'm sure that most people would rather starve to death then actually even consider doing this.