NationStates Jolt Archive


Boycott Exxon/Mobile to lower gasoline prices

Drunk commies deleted
02-09-2005, 22:22
A co-worker of mine told me about an email he recieved that encouraged people to boycott Exxon/mobile gasoline. The theory is that if their business drops off enough they'll lower prices to win back customers. Then the other gas stations will lower prices to match Exxon so as not to lose their newly won market share.

What do you guys think?
Vetalia
02-09-2005, 22:23
It won't do a thing. The oil companies don't compete with each other anymore; they're an oligopoly that has no other type of energy to compete with and so boycotting one won't do a thing to other stations.
Sinuhue
02-09-2005, 22:25
A co-worker of mine told me about an email he recieved that encouraged people to boycott Exxon/mobile gasoline. The theory is that if their business drops off enough they'll lower prices to win back customers. Then the other gas stations will lower prices to match Exxon so as not to lose their newly won market share.

What do you guys think?
I think the people sending around these friggin emails on our division server need to get a big kick in the ass for their trouble. This is all part of a "BUY NO OIL" day. This is what we keep getting:


IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN CANADA DID NOT
PURCHASE A DROP OF GASOLINE FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE SAME
TIME, THE OIL COMPANIES WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES.
AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET
LOSS OF OVER 4 TO 6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE
OIL COMPANIES.

THEREFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED "STICK IT UP THEIR @$$
DAY" AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION SHOULD NOT BUY A SINGLE DROP OF GASOLINE
THAT DAY.

THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS
E-MAIL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO
GET THE WORD OUT.

WAITING ON THIS ADMIINSTRATION TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES
IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN
PRICES THAT THE ARAB NATIONS PROMISED WEEKS AGO?

REMEMBER ONE THING, NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF GASOLINE GOING UP
BUT AT THE SAME TIME AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES,
TRUCKING COMPANIES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES WHICH EFFECTS PRICES ON
EVERYTHING THAT IS SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING, BUILDING MATERIALS,
MEDICAL SUPPLIES ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO!

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER
ONE DAY, WE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SO DO YOUR PART AND SPREAD THE WORD. FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO
EVERYONE YOU KNOW. MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE SEPTEMBER 1ST A DAY THAT THE

CITIZENS OF CANADA SAY "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH".

PLEASE FORWARD THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU CAN!!!!
Sinuhue
02-09-2005, 22:27
As it is, transportation is incredibly subsidised, and we haven't really had to pay for it in terms of product cost. That is going to have to change at some point as oil becomes more scarce, and more expensive. If you want to 'stick it to the oil companies' buy a hybrid, or a bicycle, or ride a fucking horse. Stop gobbling up the SUVs and the big Dodge Rams...quit hauling RVs around and tent it instead, go geothermal...there are so many more effective ways of dealing with this than a boycott. It's not going to lower prices.
Drunk commies deleted
02-09-2005, 22:28
As it is, transportation is incredibly subsidised, and we haven't really had to pay for it in terms of product cost. That is going to have to change at some point as oil becomes more scarce, and more expensive. If you want to 'stick it to the oil companies' buy a hybrid, or a bicycle, or ride a fucking horse. Stop gobbling up the SUVs and the big Dodge Rams...quit hauling RVs around and tent it instead, go geothermal...there are so many more effective ways of dealing with this than a boycott. It's not going to lower prices.
This isn't so much about "sticking it to the oil companies" as it is about playing one of them off against the rest to start a price war.
Galloism
02-09-2005, 22:29
Yeah I got one of those last year, I think. How delusional.
Sinuhue
02-09-2005, 22:29
This isn't so much about "sticking it to the oil companies" as it is about playing one of them off against the rest to start a price war.
I can't see it making much of a difference. Especially when you factor in transport consumption...most of which is done with a specific provider via cardlock and so on. All those truckers are not going to switch stations just because. Especially when the corporate account is with one company in particular.
The Force Majeure II
02-09-2005, 22:32
right, I'll drive my jeep five miles out of my way to fill up somewhere else. I don't think so.
Sinuhue
02-09-2005, 22:33
In any case, I have to avoid the ALL the pumps as it is. $1.34/litre means I simply can not afford to visit my family as much as I'd like. Not when the trip costs me nearly $50 a pop :(.
Texoma Land
02-09-2005, 22:37
A co-worker of mine told me about an email he recieved that encouraged people to boycott Exxon/mobile gasoline. The theory is that if their business drops off enough they'll lower prices to win back customers. Then the other gas stations will lower prices to match Exxon so as not to lose their newly won market share.

What do you guys think?


It won't work. But for what it's worth, I already boycott Exxon/Mobile because of their anti gay policys.
Lotus Puppy
02-09-2005, 22:38
A co-worker of mine told me about an email he recieved that encouraged people to boycott Exxon/mobile gasoline. The theory is that if their business drops off enough they'll lower prices to win back customers. Then the other gas stations will lower prices to match Exxon so as not to lose their newly won market share.

What do you guys think?
Won't work. There are too many Exxon and Mobil stations around. It'd probably cost too much to drive to another gas station. This is also why consumers can't drive around to buy "American" gas.
Frangland
02-09-2005, 22:38
A co-worker of mine told me about an email he recieved that encouraged people to boycott Exxon/mobile gasoline. The theory is that if their business drops off enough they'll lower prices to win back customers. Then the other gas stations will lower prices to match Exxon so as not to lose their newly won market share.

What do you guys think?

put your energy to better use and start a "Boycott SUVs" group

start smashing windows of homes of SUV owners... or soaping their windows, hang big signs on their homes with "SUV Owner" on them, etc.

hehe

seriously, though, if we started lowering our demand, price would follow... right now high demand justifies high price.
Sinuhue
02-09-2005, 22:41
It won't work. But for what it's worth, I already boycott Exxon/Mobile because of their anti gay policys.
And I already boycott Shell because of their bullshit. Actually...it's like making a deal with the devil no matter WHO I buy petroleum from :(

And for my fellow Canuks, you can find the best gas prices in your area here (http://www.gasticker.com/locations.php). It's sad...you can see how much the price has gone up in just a few short months:(
Ashmoria
02-09-2005, 22:43
i dont remember the last time i bought gas at exxon/mobile. i dont think my boycotting would have any effect.
Sinuhue
02-09-2005, 22:44
put your energy to better use and start a "Boycott SUVs" group

start smashing windows of homes of SUV owners... or soaping their windows, hang big signs on their homes with "SUV Owner" on them, etc.


Be prepared to eat lead for doing such a heinous thing. You might not approve of someone's purchase, but trust me...they're already paying for it right now at the pumps. Let that be their punishment. Taking more money out of the pockets of the middle class is self-defeating. God I hate people who vandalise vehicles/homes!
ElJefe
02-09-2005, 22:46
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

The only way to reduce prices is simply to use less gas, by driving less and/or using cars that are more fuel efficient.

I'd bet people with hybrid cars are laughing their heads off at everyone else.
Xeropa
02-09-2005, 22:48
I boycott Shell because their policies and activities in places like Nigeria suck, and Mobil similarly for investing in Burma. If I could avoid OPEC oil I would too, because the last thing I want to do is line the pockets of folks like the House of Saud. So that leaves me with what? Maybe three or four petrol stations in my county?

Anyway - just gone to 89.9p per litre at my local Jet cheapy garage, and I've seen diesel going at 99.9 too. It was only 78.9 when we had the fuel protests!
Texoma Land
02-09-2005, 22:50
Actually...it's like making a deal with the devil no matter WHO I buy petroleum from :(

I agree. And not just with oil companies but with many other companies too. It's hard to keep up with who is doing what to whom. I get a head ache just thinking about it. :( So I just do what I can and what is feasable for me.
Drunk commies deleted
02-09-2005, 23:06
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

The only way to reduce prices is simply to use less gas, by driving less and/or using cars that are more fuel efficient.

I'd bet people with hybrid cars are laughing their heads off at everyone else.
Thanks for the link.
The Black Forrest
02-09-2005, 23:10
Well Exxon you really can't hurt. They do a great deal of shipping so you may be buying gas they delivered.
Lotus Puppy
03-09-2005, 02:59
As it is, transportation is incredibly subsidised, and we haven't really had to pay for it in terms of product cost. That is going to have to change at some point as oil becomes more scarce, and more expensive. If you want to 'stick it to the oil companies' buy a hybrid, or a bicycle, or ride a fucking horse. Stop gobbling up the SUVs and the big Dodge Rams...quit hauling RVs around and tent it instead, go geothermal...there are so many more effective ways of dealing with this than a boycott. It's not going to lower prices.
Your describing long term decreases. We all want decreases in the price of gas now. You know, in many countries, gas prices are controlled, and when the government asks for consumers to pay just a few cents more, riots result.
Neo Kervoskia
03-09-2005, 03:15
Whatever happens, don't let the government control gas prices.
The Lone Alliance
03-09-2005, 03:27
I've heard some places in the south are selling for 6$ a gallon.
Lotus Puppy
03-09-2005, 03:28
I've heard some places in the south are selling for 6$ a gallon.
They are, mostly because of buyer's panic. It'll get worse by Labor Day.
Finitra
03-09-2005, 03:35
ok im sick of people going hybrid this hybrid that THEY PAY MORE MONEY for gas/batteries than we do for gas they are less dependend on gas but f you drive a hydrid any where above 40 that gas your usaing and hybrid batteries last a year or 2. and those things cost $2000-$3000 so they laugh at us for moaning about gas while they do the same? i think not! i laugh at them there stupid liberal logic that gets them father in the red than others.
Hagge
03-09-2005, 03:44
3 years ago Exon made 23 Billion in profit AFTER tax. Last year they mad 500 BILLION in profit AFTER TAXES!! We are getting screwed!! and then they are braging we spent 1 billion in trying to find new energy sorces!! BS that what is it!! Then their ceo is getting 10 million in salery and bunus in 10s of millions...
Celtlund
03-09-2005, 03:46
What do you guys think?

It is bogus. This e-mail has been around several times with the names of different companies.
Markreich
03-09-2005, 03:53
Ah, it's so nice to see an old favorite come back...

Next, Laura Bush will have condom ornaments on her Christmas tree, and some cookie recipie will be traded again... :headbang:
Celtlund
03-09-2005, 03:57
Ah, it's so nice to see an old favorite come back...

Next, Laura Bush will have condom ornaments on her Christmas tree, and some cookie recipie will be traded again... :headbang:

Condom ornaments? Used or right out of the package? Pink, white, clear or black? Ribbed or smooth? All of the above? On a Christmas tree? :eek:
Markreich
03-09-2005, 04:01
3 years ago Exon made 23 Billion in profit AFTER tax. Last year they mad 500 BILLION in profit AFTER TAXES!! We are getting screwed!! and then they are braging we spent 1 billion in trying to find new energy sorces!! BS that what is it!! Then their ceo is getting 10 million in salery and bunus in 10s of millions...

Um... shenanigans.

Last year, Exxon-Mobile made 293.0 Billion in SALES, with 29.6 Billion in profits (income).
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/msnbc/profile.asp?Symbol=XOM

Now stop spouting what you hear from some claptrap and CHECK YOUR FACTS before posting things like this.

BTW: XOM's market cap is 382.60 Billion. I'd wager their stock wouldn't have such a low ceiling if they'd made 500 Billion profits. ;)

As for the rest: Yes, he gets paid a lot. But the $1billion they spent to research alternative energy IS a big deal. How do you think it'll ever come about otherwise?
Markreich
03-09-2005, 04:03
Condom ornaments? Used or right out of the package? Pink, white, clear or black? Ribbed or smooth? All of the above? On a Christmas tree? :eek:

That was one that went around circa 1995, young one... was a slam on Hilary Clinton.
Melkor Unchained
03-09-2005, 04:07
A co-worker of mine told me about an email he recieved that encouraged people to boycott Exxon/mobile gasoline. The theory is that if their business drops off enough they'll lower prices to win back customers. Then the other gas stations will lower prices to match Exxon so as not to lose their newly won market share.

What do you guys think?
I think your co-worker is an idiot. Gasoline negotiators are more or less at the mercy of the refineries, OPEC, and a slew of other agencies.

Also, some of us [like myeslf] happen to have a job that requires a functioning automobile with gas in it. I ain't boycotting shit, and we all need to get used to the fact that the days of cheap gas are more or less over. What do I plan on doing about these prices? I plan on paying them.