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So Nation State'rs....What's YOUR looter-shooter?

ARF-COM and IBTL
02-09-2005, 19:15
So Nation State'rs...what's YOUR looter-shooter? :D I'll go first with mine.

My looter-shooter and the Shaggin' Wagon together.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/74/benzsksfront8gr.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7186/sksupagainstwall2mu.jpg

Bug out ammo rig with stripper clips all loaded and a case of ammo.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5671/sks9nf.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9876/sksonwoodtable4oe.jpg

Best 150$ I ever spent :)
Colodia
02-09-2005, 19:17
Bah, I envy you because you have a gun.
Drunk commies deleted
02-09-2005, 19:17
A Smith and Wesson airweight .38 special and a cheap-ass 9mm manufactured by Navy Arms. I'm not too well armed for looter shootin'.
ARF-COM and IBTL
02-09-2005, 19:19
A Smith and Wesson airweight .38 special and a cheap-ass 9mm manufactured by Navy Arms. I'm not too well armed for looter shootin'.

Can't your S&W also fire .357 ammo?

Is it the SHORT barreled revolver or is it the 4"?
Spooty
02-09-2005, 19:20
Swag Shop 99p Elastic powered BB gun, even fires small easy to lose plastic pellets.
Drunk commies deleted
02-09-2005, 19:20
Can't your S&W also fire .357 ammo?

Is it the SHORT barreled revolver or is it the 4"?
No, it's strictly chambered for .38 spl, and it's the snubbie. Easy to conceal.
Falhaar2
02-09-2005, 19:20
I don't have a gun. I don't particularly want one either. Well... maybe a nuclear device, but that's for private use.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-09-2005, 19:20
Nice- the SKS paratrooper with a bayonette? 7.62 X 39

I have and SKS-I added the folding stock and a fixed 30 rd banana clip. You still load with stripper clips from the top. There should be a cleaning kit in the but plate of your's, right?

I also have two M1 30 carbines with various pre ban clips as well. And loads of ammo for all.

I almost forgot-a Mossberg 500 12 ga with a pistol grip and a tactical light. And plenty of ammo.
Kanabia
02-09-2005, 19:21
I don't have a gun. I don't particularly want one either. Well... maybe a nuclear device, but that's for private use.

Only one?
Ankhmet
02-09-2005, 19:24
I have an ACME uber raygun, built for destroying worlds. I can't show it here, because... Y'know.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-09-2005, 19:25
No, it's strictly chambered for .38 spl, and it's the snubbie. Easy to conceal.


I always wanted the hammerless version of that-you can shoot from a coat pocket without snagging.
Allthenamesarereserved
02-09-2005, 19:25
Nice- the SKS paratrooper with a bayonette? 7.62 X 39

I have and SKS-I added the folding stock and a fixed 30 rd banana clip. You still load with stripper clips from the top. There should be a cleaning kit in the but plate of your's, right?

I also have two M1 30 carbines with various pre ban clips as well. And loads of ammo for all.

I almost forgot-a Mossberg 500 12 ga with a pistol grip and a tactical light. And plenty of ammo.

You have GOT to be an American. Here in Canada, I don't know anyone who owns a gun! and this is Alberta, for God's sake!!
Lunatic Goofballs
02-09-2005, 19:27
Shooter:http://www.woodbgoodtoys.com.au/popgun.jpg

Wagon:http://budugllydesign.com/archivebud/badidea/picts/clowncar.gif

:D
ARF-COM and IBTL
02-09-2005, 19:28
No, it's strictly chambered for .38 spl, and it's the snubbie. Easy to conceal.

I wanted to buy one of those to give to my mom as her birthday present. Revolvers are SO Easy to use-just click off the safety and pull the trigger :D
ARF-COM and IBTL
02-09-2005, 19:30
Nice- the SKS paratrooper with a bayonette? 7.62 X 39

I have and SKS-I added the folding stock and a fixed 30 rd banana clip. You still load with stripper clips from the top. There should be a cleaning kit in the but plate of your's, right?

I also have two M1 30 carbines with various pre ban clips as well. And loads of ammo for all.

I almost forgot-a Mossberg 500 12 ga with a pistol grip and a tactical light. And plenty of ammo.

It's actually the full-size SKS with the 20.5 barrel. I WISH it was a paratrooper. Those are so much easier to carry and conceal.

I removed the cleaning kit because I have surplus east german AK kits that are much better and use a pull-through bristle rather than a steel rod which will bang the hell out of your barrel's crown and kill your accuracy.
ARF-COM and IBTL
02-09-2005, 19:31
Only one?

Hey...GET BOTH!

:D
Carnivorous Lickers
02-09-2005, 19:34
You have GOT to be an American. Here in Canada, I don't know anyone who owns a gun! and this is Alberta, for God's sake!!


Of course I'm American.

My guns arent for home defense at this point, I just like to shoot.

For any home invaders, they would have me, a tomahawk and a Fairbairn Skyes to deal with.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-09-2005, 19:36
It's actually the full-size SKS with the 20.5 barrel. I WISH it was a paratrooper. Those are so much easier to carry and conceal.

I removed the cleaning kit because I have surplus east german AK kits that are much better and use a pull-through bristle rather than a steel rod which will bang the hell out of your barrel's crown and kill your accuracy.


There is a ton of cheap ammo on the market- make sure you get the "non corrosive" though.
Frangland
02-09-2005, 19:52
http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-pstl-1911-ms.shtml
Carnivorous Lickers
02-09-2005, 20:01
http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-pstl-1911-ms.shtml


thats a beauty
Sabbatis
02-09-2005, 20:11
I've got a collection of 25 or so rifles and shotguns, mostly hunting arms but some for competition. I've got a couple of SK's, one Russian, one Chinese, and both unmodified. I would reach for one of them in an emergency, though the length of pull is uncomfortably short for me. Been meaning to put a slip-on pad on one to lengthen the stock a bit.

I keep a case of ammo on hand and keep strippers pre-loaded.
Ifreann
02-09-2005, 20:15
i'm somewhat lackin in weapons,but it shall be remedied.let me show you my shopping list
Glock 17 (http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/bf95.JPG)
Mac 10 (http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/mc11gas.jpg)
Berreta 92f (http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/ag567.jpg) w/ Topsight
Umarex Berreta Silencer (http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/Z7497.jpg)
Bowie knife (http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/760.JPG)
Machete (http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/k4114.JPG)
Falcata (http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/AH4111BN.JPG)
Russian Kindjal (http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/AH3204.JPG)
Celtic Bronze Sword (http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/AH2103.jpg)
Refused Party Program
02-09-2005, 20:16
I only shoot people who shoot looters.

http://www.thalia.org/kender/Pics/Parties/00-06-03-SmashingParty/smashing33.jpg
Kecibukia
02-09-2005, 20:24
I only shoot people who shoot looters.

http://www.thalia.org/kender/Pics/Parties/00-06-03-SmashingParty/smashing33.jpg

Don't let the Brady campaign to stop gun ownership see that. They'll try to ban it as a scary black gun that shoots high caliber ammunition.
Refused Party Program
02-09-2005, 20:31
Don't let the Brady campaign to stop gun ownership see that. They'll try to ban it as a scary black gun that shoots high caliber ammunition.

It does shoot high caliber ammunition. :D
Sumamba Buwhan
02-09-2005, 21:00
I have an ACME uber raygun, built for destroying worlds. I can't show it here, because... Y'know.

Is it the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator? I had the Q-35 but some Earth creature with long ears stole it.
Drunk commies deleted
02-09-2005, 21:06
I wanted to buy one of those to give to my mom as her birthday present. Revolvers are SO Easy to use-just click off the safety and pull the trigger :D
no safety.
Ravea
02-09-2005, 21:23
http://www.mediagab.com/filedump/pictures/gun_guitar.jpg

The Guitar Gun.

Fear me.
Ifreann
02-09-2005, 21:37
http://www.mediagab.com/filedump/pictures/gun_guitar.jpg

The Guitar Gun.

Fear me.

that is simultaneously the coolest guitar AND the coolest gun EVER
Unspeakable
02-09-2005, 21:38
Chinese? or Romanian...Ifind the Chinese ones don't have enough eye releif. My main shooter now is a Hakim. That I'd kill to get a scope mount for.


So Nation State'rs...what's YOUR looter-shooter? :D I'll go first with mine.

My looter-shooter and the Shaggin' Wagon together.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/74/benzsksfront8gr.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7186/sksupagainstwall2mu.jpg

Bug out ammo rig with stripper clips all loaded and a case of ammo.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5671/sks9nf.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9876/sksonwoodtable4oe.jpg

Best 150$ I ever spent :)
Gun toting civilians
02-09-2005, 21:47
Several rifles, pistols, and shotguns, from .22LR to .500 SW to 10 gauge. Almost any one will do the job nicely.
Sabbatis
02-09-2005, 23:40
Any gun will do well if needed, for sure. The SK's or AK's, if you have one, are a good choice. Sufficently accurate, decent firepower, but mainly dead-solid reliable. I prefer the 7.62x39 over the .223 too.

Anyone else as impressed as I am with the simplicity and reliability of the action? Mine rides in the pickup and has never malfunctioned even when filthy.

Don't know what they go for now, but I bought mine new for $85 a few years ago. Good choice for anyone buying a truck gun or to keep around the house.
Canada6
03-09-2005, 00:50
People are dying from starvation, thirst and disease. They are not looters. They don't even have a place to stay what the fuck would they be looting for if they don't even have a place to stash the goods? Certain people make me sick.
Ankhmet
03-09-2005, 01:11
Is it the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator? I had the Q-35 but some Earth creature with long ears stole it.

YES! Duck Dodgers to the rescue!
Jah Bootie
03-09-2005, 01:15
I've got a snubnose .357 that would handle the job.
Teh_pantless_hero
03-09-2005, 01:17
http://www.tokyobabyloncosplay.com/fotomake/ff82.jpg
Dobbsworld
03-09-2005, 01:22
*yawn*

Phallic symbols are just so overplayed.
Copiosa Scotia
03-09-2005, 01:24
I don't own a "looter-shooter" and never will. I would only shoot someone in self-defense or in defense of another innocent.
Phalanix
03-09-2005, 01:24
http://www.mediagab.com/filedump/pictures/gun_guitar.jpg

The Guitar Gun.

Fear me.
Damn I want that! By far one of the sweetest Gundam things on the market....now to find the Heat Hawk version...

Anyways mine...it's a spring airshoft pistol.... Yes I'm that cheap. Though I prefer using my dad's knives (he has like twenty diffrent kinds!)
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 01:34
I don't own a "looter-shooter" and never will. I would only shoot someone in self-defense or in defense of another innocent.

And what if they were trying to steal the supplies that would keep you alive?....

*yawn*

Phallic symbols are just so overplayed.

Since when is bragging about our guns playing phallic? I'm pretty sure you'd be converted if you were stuck in NO....with a bunch of armed criminals and absent of the NO security forces.

BTW guys, I got a new AK kit today-a 1986 Romanian AIM. I will post pics here shortly, but I am very happy that I got a 1986 kit because 1986 was a VERY influencial year in my life and for gun owners in general. The 86 Firearm owners protection act, which ended some of the alarming abuses of the constitution by the ATF, was passed by Reagan. And the 1986 Machinegun ban was also passed by Reagan, unfortunately :mad: . Nobody knew about it because it was slipped in at the last minute.
Doomingsland
03-09-2005, 01:34
Hmmm, this will be a long list, but I'll condense it to my Ruger Mini-14 w/bullpup stock, red dot, hi-caps, muzzle break, and other assorted uber things, and my Smith and Wesson SW-22 w/red dot scope (yes, on a pistol.) I also got an AK and some other shit, then my dad's got some scary stuff.
Freudotopia
03-09-2005, 02:10
Desert Eagle. Israeli Military Industries
.50 Caliber
270 mm long
1,000 kg
Capacity: 8 rounds

Ass-kickery in a conviently LARGE package. But what's my real looter-shooter?

FEAR
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 02:19
Desert Eagle. Israeli Military Industries
.50 Caliber
270 mm long
1,000 kg
Capacity: 8 rounds

Ass-kickery in a conviently LARGE package. But what's my real looter-shooter?

FEAR

You're Desert eagle weighs more than my benz? 1000kg? HUH?
New Granada
03-09-2005, 02:28
An old winchester 30-30, a semiautomatic .22cal rifle and a small .25 cal semiautomatic pistol.

And, though i love my car it isnt made to fight looters, so i'd trade for one of my parent's v8 jeep grand cherokee.
Spartiala
03-09-2005, 02:47
That gun/guitar is now my computer's background picture.

And to Allthenamesarereserved, I am a Canadian and almost everyone in my family owns a gun.
PaulJeekistan
03-09-2005, 03:07
There is a ton of cheap ammo on the market- make sure you get the "non corrosive" though.

If you're talking about the corrosive primer in the Norinco surplus 7.62 mm you can actually neutralize it with regulaar old anti-freeze. Just swab it down and sink the bolt and receiver in anti-freeze for a few minutes then do a regular cleaning after shootingand your SKS will be fine. I ran a few thousand through my old SKS using this method andit worked fine. Learned that from a buddy who used the Norinco in his AK. That stuff is sooo cheap you're definately getting your money's worth out of an extra 5-10 minutes cleaning!
Chellis
03-09-2005, 03:12
None, atm. I plan on buying one of these beauties, an SKS, and a Glock 29 in the next four years(Glock 29 for my 21st birthday :P)...

The beaut- Su-16CA

http://kel-tec.com/su-16ca_rifle.htm

Legal in california, yay.

Btw, ARF, In your third pic, there is a box of 7.62mm nato... Do you just throw 7.62x39mm in there, or did you just want a box to lay it on for the pic?
PaulJeekistan
03-09-2005, 03:14
Desert Eagle. Israeli Military Industries
.50 Caliber
270 mm long
1,000 kg
Capacity: 8 rounds

Ass-kickery in a conviently LARGE package. But what's my real looter-shooter?

FEAR

That ass anchor will be giving you back pain in a week of regular carry. Buy a nice polymer. Or if fear is your gig buy a mosberg model 500. Because:
1. Everybody knows what that sound is. The one it makes when you chamber a round.
2. When that sound is augmented by the visual imagery of a barell that you can fityour thumb into it causes a radical change in attitude.
Kecibukia
03-09-2005, 03:16
If you're talking about the corrosive primer in the Norinco surplus 7.62 mm you can actually neutralize it with regulaar old anti-freeze. Just swab it down and sink the bolt and receiver in anti-freeze for a few minutes then do a regular cleaning after shootingand your SKS will be fine. I ran a few thousand through my old SKS using this method andit worked fine. Learned that from a buddy who used the Norinco in his AK. That stuff is sooo cheap you're definately getting your money's worth out of an extra 5-10 minutes cleaning!

Any ammonia based cleaner will work as well. Windex is good.
Mondoth
03-09-2005, 03:24
Escape Vehicle:

http://www.ibistek.com/images/cobra-gallery/4.jpg

Yes, thats a .50 cal cannon on top, fully concealable and is controlled by either driver or passenger via joystick+folding LCD screen, comes equiped with a thermal viewer for those night dashes.
Phalanix
03-09-2005, 03:32
O_O Mondoth you have officaly shown us the light! Plus a way to justify using an SUV in this day and age of high gass prices
Copiosa Scotia
03-09-2005, 03:41
And what if they were trying to steal the supplies that would keep you alive?....

I'd point the gun at them and tell them in no uncertain terms that they'd better turn around and start running.
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 03:50
I'd point the gun at them and tell them in no uncertain terms that they'd better turn around and start running.


And if they don't? Some people are crazy...


FYI I only shoot non-corrosive ammunition. I use WOLF, which is made in russia. It goes bang everytime, my SKS loves it, No FTEs,FTFs, or any failures of anykind, and it's pretty recently manufactured. However after you fire it your gun smells like urine :eek: ....weird russky powder.

After shooting I always throw both my rifles in the shower with the hot water blasting. Hot water cleans away all the crap that grows inside of a rifle during use. I swear by it. Throw them in the shower, use a sprayer and send hot water down the barrel, dry it very good with a blow dryer, light coating of WD40/penetrating oil/CLP, and re-assemble it.
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 03:57
None, atm. I plan on buying one of these beauties, an SKS, and a Glock 29 in the next four years(Glock 29 for my 21st birthday :P)...

The beaut- Su-16CA

http://kel-tec.com/su-16ca_rifle.htm

Legal in california, yay.

Btw, ARF, In your third pic, there is a box of 7.62mm nato... Do you just throw 7.62x39mm in there, or did you just want a box to lay it on for the pic?

It's what I use to store 500 rounds of my practice ammo, which is wolf Hollowpoint 7.62x39. I can't use anything else at the range I go to, so I keep it in that. All the other looter (FMJ) and hunting ammo (Soft point) are kept in seperate boxes. All totaled up it's around 2000 or so I think..could be wrong. Might have a case lying around I don't know about.
Copiosa Scotia
03-09-2005, 04:11
And if they don't? Some people are crazy...

If they don't, their only other real option is to try and cause me bodily harm, in which case I can defend myself.
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 04:22
If they don't, their only other real option is to try and cause me bodily harm, in which case I can defend myself.

Hope you have something other than a .223 or 9mm. Both have not been up to par with 120lb Hadjis in Iraq out of Short-barreled M4s. Bullets don't have enough velocity to fragment and act like little .22 caliber icepicks, in and out with minimal tissue and temporary/permanent cavity damage.

9mm is just as bad.

Seeing as how your average looter in NO was pretty heavy, if these guys ever found out you shot them, they'll get pretty ticked off at you.
Kroisistan
03-09-2005, 04:46
So Nation State'rs...what's YOUR looter-shooter? :D I'll go first with mine.

My looter-shooter and the Shaggin' Wagon together.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/74/benzsksfront8gr.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7186/sksupagainstwall2mu.jpg

Bug out ammo rig with stripper clips all loaded and a case of ammo.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5671/sks9nf.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9876/sksonwoodtable4oe.jpg

Best 150$ I ever spent :)

Like you really needed a bolt action rifle. Just in case the Kaiser comes calling, huh? ;)

I don't own a gun. But my ride is a 2003 PT Cruiser. And for the record, I don't support the killing of looters. Property<Human life. PERIOD.
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 05:33
Like you really needed a bolt action rifle. Just in case the Kaiser comes calling, huh? ;)

I don't own a gun. But my ride is a 2003 PT Cruiser. And for the record, I don't support the killing of looters. Property<Human life. PERIOD.

It's no longer an issue of shooting looters, it's an issue of restoring law and order to NO.

BTW, that...is...no bolt action rifle. If I did it would have to be .308 or larger and have a big nightvision scope on it so I wouldn't get lumped in with the deer hunting crowd.
Hamanistan
03-09-2005, 05:38
:sniper: PSG-1 and an 9mm Glock HG lol not much of an arsenal.
Kill YOU Dead
03-09-2005, 05:47
No looter-shooters for me.....don't have the money or space to get any right now and to properly secure them when not in use. One day, I'll get them. Right now I've got my looter-slashers...a bunch of sharp knives and swords, gonna get up close and personal. But if there is ever any looting around here, I'll be throwing on my uniform and going down to my reserve unit to pick up my M-16 and my M-9. Not the best weapons but, its what I got...besides a few rounds to the head and you know they're dead.
Buben
03-09-2005, 05:51
Any suggestion's on a Rifle for someone who has always had an intrest in them but doesnt know much about them. Make, model, size, anything relevant.

I dont plan on buying one soon, but in the future. (not for hunting, just for shooting target's(not human target's))
NYAAA
03-09-2005, 06:10
Any suggestion's on a Rifle for someone who has always had an intrest in them but doesnt know much about them. Make, model, size, anything relevant.

I dont plan on buying one soon, but in the future. (not for hunting, just for shooting target's(not human target's))
I would suggest that you start with a .22 rifle. Most are cheap, the ammo is very inexpensive, and it will help you build marksmanship and good habits before moving on to something like a handgun or centerfire rifle.

Anyways... its uncanny, the original poster has the exact same "combat" setup as me, SKS with loaded stripper clips and webgear. Both my SKS' are yugos.

My other guns that I keep for "social use" include a Norinco trench gun clone w/ its bayonet, an M1 carbine and a 'No.4 (that met bubba before she met me :(). Sidearm is an Inglis 9mm. :sniper:
Drunk commies deleted
03-09-2005, 15:30
Escape Vehicle:

http://www.ibistek.com/images/cobra-gallery/4.jpg

Yes, thats a .50 cal cannon on top, fully concealable and is controlled by either driver or passenger via joystick+folding LCD screen, comes equiped with a thermal viewer for those night dashes.
How is it on gas?

Considering how much I hate most of the other drivers on the road with me this vehicle may be just the thing for my commute to and from work every day.
Canada6
03-09-2005, 16:02
The testosterone levels in this thread are off the scale. :rolleyes:
Freudotopia
03-09-2005, 20:45
That ass anchor will be giving you back pain in a week of regular carry. Buy a nice polymer. Or if fear is your gig buy a mosberg model 500. Because:
1. Everybody knows what that sound is. The one it makes when you chamber a round.
2. When that sound is augmented by the visual imagery of a barell that you can fityour thumb into it causes a radical change in attitude.

Polymer? Pussy. The .50 caliber ammo IS fear.
Kroisistan
03-09-2005, 22:27
It's no longer an issue of shooting looters, it's an issue of restoring law and order to NO.

BTW, that...is...no bolt action rifle. If I did it would have to be .308 or larger and have a big nightvision scope on it so I wouldn't get lumped in with the deer hunting crowd.

Huh. It looked like a bolt action rifle... oh well.

This is why I don't own guns. I'd probably kill myself figuring out my newly bought 9mm.
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 22:58
:sniper: PSG-1 and an 9mm Glock HG lol not much of an arsenal.

WHAT! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Dude, I hate you. Is it a real PSG-1 or a conversion? Either way you suck! :sniper:

I'd settle for a ROMAK or Dragunov...those are fine enough for me ;)
ARF-COM and IBTL
03-09-2005, 23:01
Any suggestion's on a Rifle for someone who has always had an intrest in them but doesnt know much about them. Make, model, size, anything relevant.

I dont plan on buying one soon, but in the future. (not for hunting, just for shooting target's(not human target's))

I'd get a Norinco SKS. It will eat anything you feed it, never hiccup or fail to work, and it has a chrome barrel-which means it is VERY easy to clean and lasts longer than non-chromed barrels. Just field strip it and throw the metal parts in the shower with hot water, and dry all the parts out with a hair dryer really good, and spray down with wd-40.
Chellis
03-09-2005, 23:29
Polymer? Pussy. The .50 caliber ammo IS fear.

It is scary. Scary to carry. You will break your hand and shell out twice as money, and probably do no more damage than a .45 or 10mm.

By the time you aim, I could have unloaded multiple 10mm. And trust me, there wont be no difference in death there.
Cabra West
03-09-2005, 23:37
So Nation State'rs...what's YOUR looter-shooter? :D I'll go first with mine.

My looter-shooter and the Shaggin' Wagon together.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/74/benzsksfront8gr.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7186/sksupagainstwall2mu.jpg

Bug out ammo rig with stripper clips all loaded and a case of ammo.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5671/sks9nf.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9876/sksonwoodtable4oe.jpg

Best 150$ I ever spent :)

Well...
this (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/cabrawest/cat_gun.jpg) . The best thing is, it was almost completely free...