NationStates Jolt Archive

So what you're really saying is that you don't like it here at NS and want to be booted.

Kinda sounds like it. Wow.

...is it society's responsibility to support people, or individuals' responsibility to support themselves?

<raises hand>


OOOO!!! Oooo!!!! Pick me!!! I know this one!!!

Someone may have pointed this out already, but I'm not going to read all that stuff and risked having an informed opinion for once.
Some, if not most, of the looting and rampaging is being done without the benefit of guns. Looting doesn't require you to have a gun when most of the people are away or to scared to stand up to a gang of 4-5 men who have decided to start a T.V. collection.
Additionally, the whole point of looting is that you don't need a gun (or any force at all). Looting is the easy way to steal because you can just wander into an empty store, grab what you want, and, provided your clever and subtle, leave no one with evidence that you stole the stuff. With no witnesses, cameras, or security, all you need to do is put forth a small effort to alleviate the suspicions of others and you can make off easy (or much easier than robbery and shop lifting anyway).

...is it society's responsibility to support people, or individuals' responsibility to support themselves?

It is the responsibility of society to support those individuals who are unable to support themselves. The society should make it as easy as possible, by furthering equality of access, for as many individuals as are able to support themselves.

I don't understand why there is such a high-level of poverty in the affected area and why, if the evacuation of New Orleans was compulsory, did the authorities not assist in the evacuation of those without the means to make the arrangements for themselves.

It is the responsibility of society to support those individuals who are unable to support themselves. The society should make it as easy as possible, by furthering equality of access, for as many individuals as are able to support themselves.

I don't understand why there is such a high-level of poverty in the affected area and why, if the evacuation of New Orleans was compulsory, did the authorities not assist in the evacuation of those without the means to make the arrangements for themselves.

I guess the real question is who gets to draw the line between "unable" and "unwilling" or "unmotivated."

There are already quite a few people in the US who are sick and tired of paying our tax dollars into a welfare system that encourages crack whores to spawn like rabbits just to get more welfare money.

Oy vavoy, just keep your liberty-preserving gun if you think that you need it, and good luck if you ever come across a situation that requires you to fire it.

Thank God my wife was armed when the crazed escapee from an institution for criminally insane tried to rape and kill her. She tried to stop him otherwise, but he kept battering her and tearing at her clothes. She finally drew her gun and fired. Took him out with one shot. From what I hear, she was pretty badly bruised. He had hit her repeatedly in the head with her own two-way radio.

BTW, she was working as an armed private security patrol officer, and was checking out a government building at night (alone-her employer was too cheap to hire more people) when she was attacked. It happened a few years before we got married.

If she had not had the weapon, I would not have her right now. So thank God for guns.

Self-defense is our right as free people. And if someone breaks into our house, I am going for that gun. And although I am not as good a shot as my wife, I feel reasonably confident that I can hit center mass; I would certainly do my best to try. :sniper: