Is Life Really Pointless?
I quite enjoy life, but I do wonder what the point is. Take this forum, for example; people here are involved in the same arguments over and over again. Homosexuality, gun-ownership, Communists vs Fascists, they continue to rumble on. But why? None of you will ever really agree with one another. War is similarly pointless, as is empire-building, because neither will achieve anything permanent. Why bother to do anything when there is no guarantee you'll be around to see the benefits? I do believe in God, but I wonder if he does exist, doesn't he consider placing an entire race of sentient, intelligent beings on a rock floating in the middle of nothing, while providing them with no clue as to why a little cruel? Please humour me...
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:02
If you haven't found something worth dying for, you haven't lived.
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 11:03
So you might as well stop breathing because you will stop breathing some time...
... and then your death will be equally pointless :fluffle:
Mykonians
01-09-2005, 11:05
As for why people here argue here about various subjects knowing full-well that nobody is going to change their opinion on the matter as a result, they say they just enjoy arguing. Which is one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard, but whatever.
And as for what the point of life is, why does it need one? As a great and wise man once said, "it's just a bunch of stuff that happened." I find life amusing more than anything else, which is enough for me.
Call to power
01-09-2005, 11:05
the only reason of life is to create more life and maybe live a good life (which is kind of hard cheese for those Africans)
The Children of Beer
01-09-2005, 11:07
I quite enjoy life, but I do wonder what the point is. Take this forum, for example; people here are involved in the same arguments over and over again. Homosexuality, gun-ownership, Communists vs Fascists, they continue to rumble on. But why? None of you will ever really agree with one another. War is similarly pointless, as is empire-building, because neither will achieve anything permanent. Why bother to do anything when there is no guarantee you'll be around to see the benefits? I do believe in God, but I wonder if he does exist, doesn't he consider placing an entire race of sentient, intelligent beings on a rock floating in the middle of nothing, while providing them with no clue as to why a little cruel? Please humour me...
I dont think there is any external purpose or "point" to human existance. Our purposes are merely what we create for ourselves. In saying that the purpose of life as a whole is to continue, to reproduce, to survive.
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:09
the only reason of life is to create more life and maybe live a good life (which is kind of hard cheese for those Africans) :eek: Women have to have 12 kids?
Life is pointless, and most likely, god doesnt exist.
I live on the very small chance that Im wrong about one of these. But I doubt it.
:eek: Women have to have 12 kids?
"No one is saying 12. 8, maybe nine!"
Quote-namer gets a cookie.
Wheres the option:
"This world was made by hyperintelligent mice to find out the Ultimate Question for the Ultimate Answer, 42..."
Pure Metal
01-09-2005, 11:11
don't think about it - thats what i do now. to quote a (acid-loving) friend of mine "we're just here"
don't think about why, just accept that we are and make the best of it, thats my advice. i got terribly confused and upset when i was asking myself this question all the time... so now i just don't :)
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:11
"No one is saying 12. 8, maybe nine!"
Quote-namer gets a cookie. Sorry, don't recognise it.
4 is quite enough, imo…
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:12
don't think about it - thats what i do now. to quote a (acid-loving) friend of mine "we're just here"
don't think about why, just accept that we are and make the best of it, thats my advice. i got terribly confused and upset when i was asking myself this question all the time... so now i just don't :) That reminds me of the old song: "We're here because we're here because we're here because we're here…" (to tune of Auld Lang Syne)
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 11:12
In essence, the answer remains no, there is neither purpose nor diretion in human existance. Our original purpose remians procreation, however we all feel a compulsion towards changing the world, altering the world to our ends, and that is our purpose, to further ourselves, and assume a more dominant position. As a thoroughly emo kid however, I am sure there is no singular point at all in human existance, only mediocre facades of purpose behind whcih we cower to shield ourselves from the inexorable and inevitable conclusion to our life and our works.
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 11:13
the only reason of life is to create more life and maybe live a good life (which is kind of hard cheese for those Africans)
I prefer to think of it as a supreme irony.....
Pure Metal
01-09-2005, 11:14
That reminds me of the old song: "We're here because we're here because we're here because we're here…" (to tune of Auld Lang Syne)
sounds good to me *sings along*
Spartiala
01-09-2005, 11:14
After reading the opening post, I had a sudden desire to re-read the Biblical book of Ecclesiastes.
As to why we all bother to come here and argue with complete strangers about whether or not communism actually works in theory or how World War II should have been conducted, I say that for me I like being challenged in my beliefs so that I have to continually re-examine and strengthen them. I'm a firm libertarian, and will likely never become a communist, but arguing with communists helps me fully develope the ideas I have about libertarianism.
Spartiala
01-09-2005, 11:18
"No one is saying 12. 8, maybe nine!"
Quote-namer gets a cookie.
That sounds very familier. Is it Homer Simpson?
If you haven't found something worth dying for, you haven't lived.
Most ture. Also if you have had a huge impact on someone, so much so this has changed their life, then by no means is your life pointless.
Its what you do with the time you have that counts.
Remember Death comes only when hope fades
Pepe Dominguez
01-09-2005, 11:22
Remember Death comes only when hope fades
Hehe. I think I've witnessed some sad counterexamples to this.. ;)
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 11:26
Most ture. Also if you have had a huge impact on someone, so much so this has changed their life, then by no means is your life pointless.
Its what you do with the time you have that counts.
Remember Death comes only when hope fades
Please do not sound like a housewifee or emotionally charged, simplistic old lady. Our lives are remembered for our actions and decisions, that is why the actions of contentious and great men echo through eternity, and those who concern themselves with love over all else are forgotten by all but the passing generations.
Moreover Death is inevitable, and inexorable finality, and you would do well to remember that. Hope will not save one from a biological inevitability, unless we are alluding to the placebo effect....
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 11:26
Hehe. I think I've witnessed some sad counterexamples to this.. ;)
Errr...the exception confirms the rule?
*hopeful*
*dies*
DAMN!
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:27
Please do not sound like a housewifee or emotionally charged, simplistic old lady. Our lives are remembered for our actions and decisions, that is why the actions of contentious and great men echo through eternity, and those who concern themselves with love over all else are forgotten by all but the passing generations.
Moreover Death is inevitable, and inexorable finality, and you would do well to remember that. Hope will not save one from a biological inevitability, unless we are alluding to the placebo effect.... Housewifee? What's that? Someone whose daughter is a housewife? Whose wife is a housewife?
Errr...the exception confirms the rule?
*hopeful*
*dies*
DAMN!
All of you stop dying in my thread!
That sounds very familier. Is it Homer Simpson?
You got Cookie'd!
Housewifee? What's that? Someone whose daughter is a housewife? Whose wife is a housewife?
No its someone whose married to a house.
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 11:30
Housewifee? What's that? Someone whose daughter is a housewife? Whose wife is a housewife?
Mispelling, and I would be surprised given the manner of debate we are having as to homosexual marriage, if you do not comprehend the conceptual inherencies to a housewife.
The Children of Beer
01-09-2005, 11:31
All of you stop dying in my thread!
Does it count if we turn into the undead? mmm zombification
braaaaaainssss!
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 11:32
All of you stop dying in my thread!
Okay okay
*resurrects*
You may now worship me and then your lives won't be pointless
Okay okay
*resurrects*
You may now worship me and then your lives won't be pointless
*shakes head*
Oh no! Not falling for that story again!
LMFAO!!!
You people are so funny to watch... or read or whatever you call it.
Spartiala
01-09-2005, 11:35
You got Cookie'd!
mmm . . . internet cookie. *Drools*
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:35
*shakes head*
Oh no! Not falling for that story again! I can't resurrect people… can I be a death-god then?
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 11:37
*shakes head*
Oh no! Not falling for that story again!
oh come on. You get your place in heaven before you die!
...
It's called my bed and the adress is.....
oh come on. You get your place in heaven before you die!
...
It's called my bed and the adress is.....
Im in the mood for a crucifixion! i warn you!
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 11:42
Im in the mood for a crucifixion! i warn you!
*hides toys*
Hey whatever you want. It's your heaven
Eynonistan
01-09-2005, 11:42
oh come on. You get your place in heaven before you die!
...
It's called my bed and the adress is.....
Mmmmmm, amputee pirate sex is what it's all about...
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:43
Im in the mood for a crucifixion! i warn you! Crucifixion should take place in wars, where the civilians are impaled on beams and left there to die. Fun. :) better than any other atrocity.
Eynonistan
01-09-2005, 11:45
Crucifixion should take place in wars, where the civilians are impaled on beams and left there to die. Fun. :) better than any other atrocity.
Crucifixion's not that bad!
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 11:46
Mmmmmm, amputee pirate sex is what it's all about...
We've got a winner! :fluffle:
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:47
Crucifixion's not that bad! It is when the ravens get hungry.
The Children of Beer
01-09-2005, 11:47
Crucifixion's not that bad!
Crucifixions a doddle. At least it gets you out in the fresh air
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:48
Crucifixions a doddle. At least it gets you out in the fresh air "…always look on the bright side of death, just before you draw your terminal breath…"
BackwoodsSquatches
01-09-2005, 11:48
*looks around*
Oh..Im sorry..I came in to make some smart assed comment, and saw a discussion about amputee pirate sex.....
I'll just let myself out.....
Compulsive Depression
01-09-2005, 11:49
"…always look on the bright side of death, just before you draw your terminal breath…"
Worse things happen at sea, you know.
Crucifixion's not that bad!
Oh dear. No more Life of Brian for you!
The Children of Beer
01-09-2005, 11:50
"…always look on the bright side of death, just before you draw your terminal breath…"
I'm Brian! and so is my wife!
*whistles*
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 11:50
"…always look on the bright side of death, just before you draw your terminal breath…"
That's the point of crucifixion. You die after a day or three because you choke. Hanging from your arms you can keep up breathing for only a limited time. Then it gets too hard to keep doing and you die.
*hides toys*
Hey whatever you want. It's your heaven
*Shudders*
Eynonistan
01-09-2005, 11:51
We've got a winner! :fluffle:
Righty ho!
*unbuckles his huge cutlass and prepares ropey dutch accent*
*shivers lp's timbers*
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:52
That's the point of crucifixion. You die after a day or three because you choke. Hanging from your arms you can keep up breathing for only a limited time. Then it gets too hard to keep doing and you die. If the Romans wanted you dead quicker, they smashed your legs so you couldn't raise yourself up. *shudders* It's a good way to terrorise the enemy.
I'm Brian! and so is my wife!
*whistles*
*Shakes head in dispair*
How did my thread come to this?
The Children of Beer
01-09-2005, 11:53
Worse things happen at sea, you know.
That Neil's parents are coming round for tea in 30 seconds?
Liskeinland
01-09-2005, 11:53
*Shakes head in dispair*
How did my thread come to this? British cheeriness in the face of death, I suppose. *Michael Caine accent*
*looks around*
Oh..Im sorry..I came in to make some smart assed comment, and saw a discussion about amputee pirate sex.....
I'll just let myself out.....
No!
*screams after BackwoodsSquatches* Come Back! We need someone to change the subject from anputee pirate sex...
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 11:54
*Shakes head in dispair*
How did my thread come to this?
It wasn't me!
*hides*
*pull Eynonistan under the bed too*
Hey! Toys!
I quite enjoy life, but I do wonder what the point is. Take this forum, for example; people here are involved in the same arguments over and over again. Homosexuality, gun-ownership, Communists vs Fascists, they continue to rumble on. But why? None of you will ever really agree with one another.
Since when is the point of our discussions about making other people agree with us? Just because you don't GET the point doesn't mean there isn't one :).
War is similarly pointless, as is empire-building, because neither will achieve anything permanent.
So something only has a point if it accomplishes something permanent? Sounds like you're making up your own definitions, there...I think many fleeting, ephemeral, temporary things have a great deal of purpose, meaning, and interest. If you choose not to feel that way, then you've answered your own question.
Why bother to do anything when there is no guarantee you'll be around to see the benefits?
Well, there's always the idea of playing the odds...I take out the trash because, odds are, I'm going to be around next week to smell it when the overflowing bin stinks up my house. There's a point to taking out the trash, because odds are I'm going to be uncomfortable if I don't. True, 100 years from now nobody will care if I took the trash out, but I don't need to be immortally important to find purpose in my actions.
I do believe in God,
See, there's your first mistake...
but I wonder if he does exist, doesn't he consider placing an entire race of sentient, intelligent beings on a rock floating in the middle of nothing, while providing them with no clue as to why a little cruel? Please humour me...
Depends on which of the many human-invented mythical parent figures you happen to believe in. Many of them are quite cruel, capricious, and insensitive, so you should prepare yourself for the fact that your God may not care whether or not you are happy.
The Children of Beer
01-09-2005, 11:57
*Shakes head in dispair*
How did my thread come to this?
Well eventually we can get onto monty pythons "the meaning of life". Then there will be some smartass Douglas Adams comments about 42. And then we'll all have it out of our system and it can become all serious again.
It wasn't me!
*hides*
*pull Eynonistan under the bed too*
Hey! Toys!
That damn bed and its many secrets!
Eynonistan
01-09-2005, 11:58
Toys?
What's that?
Ow!
Aha! A point for my life at last...
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 11:58
Well eventually we can get onto monty pythons "the meaning of life". Then there will be some smartass Douglas Adams comments about 42. And then we'll all have it out of our system and it can become all serious again.
To be honest 42 is a damn sight more rational than to prepare for heaven :rolleyes:
Since when is the point of our discussions about making other people agree with us? Just because you don't GET the point doesn't mean there isn't one :).
So something only has a point if it accomplishes something permanent? Sounds like you're making up your own definitions, there...I think many fleeting, ephemeral, temporary things have a great deal of purpose, meaning, and interest. If you choose not to feel that way, then you've answered your own question.
Well, there's always the idea of playing the odds...I take out the trash because, odds are, I'm going to be around next week to smell it when the overflowing bin stinks up my house. There's a point to taking out the trash, because odds are I'm going to be uncomfortable if I don't. True, 100 years from now nobody will care if I took the trash out, but I don't need to be immortally important to find purpose in my actions.
See, there's your first mistake...
Depends on which of the many human-invented mythical parent figures you happen to believe in. Many of them are quite cruel, capricious, and insensitive, so you should prepare yourself for the fact that your God may not care whether or not you are happy.
Well the idea was that we could discuss this and perhaps provide me with some sort of optimistic reassurance. Instead, this just seems to be a philosophical assault and the conversation has descended to amputee pirate sex. All this just proves me right, as there was no point starting this thread as this result was inevitable, indicating that there remains no point in doing anything. So there then.
To be honest 42 is a damn sight more rational than to prepare for heaven :rolleyes:
Damn logic!
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 12:03
Well the idea was that we could discuss this and perhaps provide me with some sort of optimistic reassurance. Instead, this just seems to be a philosophical assault and the conversation has descended to amputee pirate sex. All this just proves me right, as there was no point starting this thread as this result was inevitable, indicating that there remains no point in doing anything. So there then.
Which begs the question why bother in the first place? :)
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 12:04
Well the idea was that we could discuss this and perhaps provide me with some sort of optimistic reassurance. Instead, this just seems to be a philosophical assault and the conversation has descended to amputee pirate sex. All this just proves me right, as there was no point starting this thread as this result was inevitable, indicating that there remains no point in doing anything. So there then.
It's called NS General. What do you expect?
I've had fun, so it wasn't pointless for me at all
Eynonistan
01-09-2005, 12:05
Well the idea was that we could discuss this and perhaps provide me with some sort of optimistic reassurance. Instead, this just seems to be a philosophical assault and the conversation has descended to amputee pirate sex. All this just proves me right, as there was no point starting this thread as this result was inevitable, indicating that there remains no point in doing anything. So there then.
I found the amputee pirate sex moderately entertaining. Isn't that rather a good point for a thread to have? If the point of these forums is not to have a bit of fun and to be entertained in some way then why do any of us post?
Eynonistan
01-09-2005, 12:07
*looks back to find people have made three similar points in the last 10 seconds*
Damn and blast you all for your quick fingers!
Which begs the question why bother in the first place? :)
Just to show that life really is pointless. Im glad youve all enjoyed yourselves, as have I. Maybe it did have a point.... *ponders*
*looks back to find people have made three similar points in the last 10 seconds*
Damn and blast you all for your quick fingers!
Well you should have come out from under that bed quicker.
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 12:09
Just to show that life really is pointless. Im glad youve all enjoyed yourselves, as have I. Maybe it did have a point.... *ponders*
This thread was pointless (or maybe not :eek: )(but let's pretend it's pointless for now), soooo..... life is pointless?
Eynonistan
01-09-2005, 12:09
Well you should have come out from under that bed quicker.
It took me quite a while to gnaw through the restraints ;)
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 12:10
This thread was pointless (or maybe not :eek: )(but let's pretend it's pointless for now), soooo..... life is pointless?
Can we stop this now, the bridge outside my house is looking inviting..... ;)
This thread was pointless (or maybe not :eek: )(but let's pretend it's pointless for now), soooo..... life is pointless?
Theoretically yes, but technically no.
But if you must know, the real sinister reason for me starting this thread is that i wanted to start a conversation like the one we're all having now. And you fell into my trap! *Laughs maniacally*
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 12:14
Theoretically yes, but technically no.
But if you must know, the real sinister reason for me starting this thread is that i wanted to start a conversation like the one we're all having now. And you fell into my trap! *Laughs maniacally*
*laughs*
...
your point? Or are you pointless as well? :eek:
Can we stop this now, the bridge outside my house is looking inviting..... ;)
No internet suicide pacts on my thread.
BackwoodsSquatches
01-09-2005, 12:14
Can we stop this now, the bridge outside my house is looking inviting..... ;)
If your attracted to bridges..you must be a troll.
You should know that trolling is explictly forbidden on this forum.
Eynonistan
01-09-2005, 12:15
Theoretically yes, but technically no.
But if you must know, the real sinister reason for me starting this thread is that i wanted to start a conversation like the one we're all having now. And you fell into my trap! *Laughs maniacally*
Does nobody take the direct route and start up social threads anymore?
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 12:15
No internet suicide pacts on my thread.
Awww, just one.....
*laughs*
...
your point? Or are you pointless as well? :eek:
That's the beauty of it all! There is no point! *wided-eyed crazy look*
Priapula
01-09-2005, 12:17
What is life suffering and imperfection if not for perfect moments?
*smiles* :)
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 12:17
That's the beauty of it all! There is no point! *wided-eyed crazy look*
Like the lonely blunt pencil in the disused and desolate art classroom.....
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 12:17
What is life suffering and imperfection if not for perfect moments?
*smiles* :)
Name some.
Canzanetti
01-09-2005, 12:19
If you haven't found something worth dying for, you haven't lived.
wow
*people are perfect in their imperfections* :D
i think you have to find a point to life- its different for everyone. some people want to change the world, others want success/riches/fame/love ...
Legless Pirates
01-09-2005, 12:20
Name some.
There was this one time on the internet somewhere. This dude made a thread about life being pointless. *snicker* And it mutated into and amputee pirate sex thread.
Perfection.
The Children of Beer
01-09-2005, 12:27
There was this one time on the internet somewhere. This dude made a thread about life being pointless. *snicker* And it mutated into and amputee pirate sex thread.
Perfection.
All it needs now is bikini girls serving cocktails and some kind of snack that has bacon.
Arinellen
01-09-2005, 12:28
Nihilist! *laughs* I've forgotten who it was but most of you seem to be discussing if nihilism is correct. I've suprised someone hasn't pointed out all the great texts you can read to figure out these things.
The meaning of life (I believe) is incredibly personal. If you believe there is no meaning, then sure, go ahead and jump. However the better question is 'What's the point of suicide?' I'm afraid I can't remember who said it but one pretty smart guy told us that that was the most important question (in philosophy).
For me however it's happiness. I'm sure it's separate for most people, but if you think about it human instinct is to repoduce and human nature is to want happiness. A question to ponder is if you're going for nihilism what's to stop somebody going out and killing everybody else. For if there is no meaning in life it follows that our lives are meaningless. Therefore you shouldn't care or worry if people go out a kill millions. :mp5:
(Sorry, long comment)
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 12:30
There was this one time on the internet somewhere. This dude made a thread about life being pointless. *snicker* And it mutated into and amputee pirate sex thread.
Perfection.
Yeah (glazed, dremy eyes)...... great times....
Priapula
01-09-2005, 12:30
Name some
If i were to name some would you beleive that life has a purpose?
By asking me to accredit myself aren't you removing yourself from all possible responsibility over this point?
Is this a pattern?
No I think if I named some random perfect moments there'd be no way I can count on being beleived, you have noticed and are attempting to use the deniability of other peoples claims.
*sigh*
The whole point is that it's your life, your moments, going from one to the other. You name some.
If you really want to disscuss this there are other forums for this sort of thing
MSN Philosophy forum (http://groups.msn.com/TheismDebate/messageboard.msnw)
In the mean time I would ask you to notice that people very rarely pay any attention to the present, they are very often either worrying about the future, or reminiscing the past. Why should you worry about either? when they were the present you were so busy worrying or reminiscing you couldn't enjoy yourself anyway! That's peoples problems, they just are to 'busy' to smell the roses.
Oh. I look away for a few moments and suddenly this all got very deep.
Arinellen
01-09-2005, 12:34
Oh. I look away for a few moments and suddenly this all got very deep.
(I thought that was the point, besides it's not <i>that</i> deep. It's just deeper than pirate sex or whatever you got onto.)
Nowoland
01-09-2005, 12:36
If you haven't found something worth dying for, you haven't lived.
Apart from family there's nothing worth dying for
...
but an awful lot of things are worth living for!
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 12:38
Apart from family there's nothing worth dying for
...
but an awful lot of things are worth living for!
That's entirely dependant upon one's relationship with one's family, since some loathe their family, but find solace in political causes that they are willing to die for.
Priapula
01-09-2005, 12:39
Oh. I look away for a few moments and suddenly this all got very deep.
heheh sorry I thought I should do something to avert the amputee pirate sex.
Back to one liners:
The meaning of life is to live, don't confuse yourself there.
Upon living you must find a way to live well
That involves comfort (food, drink, sex amputee or otherwise etc), and purpose (altruism, the arts... something else harder to define)
To define what that is... well that's your own question, and it comes from within, no-one else will be able to tell you what's worth living, maybye help, but in the end you've got to do it yourself.
So as you say Arinellen the MoL is very personal.
It's also one of those general questions people can ask to sound very mystical or wise when it really contains little of relevance, it's just about keeping to what you know
Nowoland
01-09-2005, 12:45
That's entirely dependant upon one's relationship with one's family, since some loathe their family, but find solace in political causes that they are willing to die for.
If you hate your family then there's nothing worth dying for. Political or other causes are definitively not dying for because while you have only one life, you can pick up 10 causes at the next street corner.
I quite enjoy life, but I do wonder what the point is.
It's easy. The point is to enjoy your life. (After all - at the end of the day you don't have anything else...)
The blessed Chris
01-09-2005, 12:48
If you hate your family then there's nothing worth dying for. Political or other causes are definitively not dying for because while you have only one life, you can pick up 10 causes at the next street corner.
Grante, but generally death and its value is a personal affair, and religion is arguably equally as worthy as family as a cause.
Arinellen
01-09-2005, 12:49
That involves comfort (food, drink, sex amputee or otherwise etc), and purpose (altruism, the arts... something else harder to define)
It's also one of those general questions people can ask to sound very mystical or wise when it really contains little of relevance, it's just about keeping to what you know
*laughs* If you're going to claim altruism is the meaning of life you might want to wonder if it actually exists (we can't prove either way because for that I would have to read minds), however I love others because they make me happy. I do things for them because it makes <i>me</i> happy. Life is selfish.
We couldn't be wise if we tried. :D
Starry Ones
01-09-2005, 12:58
If you haven't found something worth dying for, you haven't lived.
1) It is your DUTY to make life in your community better - no religious rewards or damnations - no fear of arrest - no expectations of rewards.
This encompasses whatever you find is important to you personally.
2) It is your DUTY to raise your children (if you choose to have them) in a way they understand your views, and the views of others, so they can make rational decisions in their life.
3) It is your DUTY to take action in the community - vote, donate to charities you believe in, take puppies to the elderly in nursing homes.
4) It is your DUTY to continue to learn something every day. It's always changing & intersting things happen every day.
This is the point of life, which is all too short.
1) It is your DUTY to make life in your community better - no religious rewards or damnations - no fear of arrest - no expectations of rewards.
This encompasses whatever you find is important to you personally.
2) It is your DUTY to raise your children (if you choose to have them) in a way they understand your views, and the views of others, so they can make rational decisions in their life.
3) It is your DUTY to take action in the community - vote, donate to charities you believe in, take puppies to the elderly in nursing homes.
4) It is your DUTY to continue to learn something every day. It's always changing & intersting things happen every day.
This is the point of life, which is all too short.
No, honey, those are the points of YOUR life. Don't presume to inform people about their duties...it's rude, and pointless.
Also, YOUR life may be "all too short," but mine isn't. :)
Nowoland
01-09-2005, 13:03
Grante, but generally death and its value is a personal affair, and religion is arguably equally as worthy as family as a cause.
With dying for my family I mean that I'd be prepared to risk my life in an attempt to safe them from actual direct harm. I am not prepared to lay down my life for a more abstract cause, i.e. go to XY to fight and help keep our coutry safe so your family will not come to harm.
Religion in my book is a cause like any other (and would call myself religious), perhaps it is one that is more worthy than others to live for, but not to die for. Religion is not a value in itself. But the teachings in many religions lean towards helping others who might struggle with their lives. So live and do good things. Dying for your religion is stupid and selfish - you only do that because you hope for a reward in heaven.
Adlersburg-Niddaigle
01-09-2005, 13:14
If you haven't found something worth dying for, you haven't lived.
well said! Life is not unlike a coin, a diamond, a piece of bread. It is only valuable if one values it. And unless one does his best both to contribute the most he can, and to get out of life the most he can, then it is really not very valuable.
And the most valuable life is that lived by one who leaves a legacy to others. That legacy can be anything: a painting, a beautiful vase, a statue, a building, a garden, a book, a poem, - something that marks his existence as a human.
Absolutely. Ultimately, all human endeavour is pointless.
I quite enjoy life, but I do wonder what the point is. Take this forum, for example; people here are involved in the same arguments over and over again. Homosexuality, gun-ownership, Communists vs Fascists, they continue to rumble on. But why? None of you will ever really agree with one another. War is similarly pointless, as is empire-building, because neither will achieve anything permanent. Why bother to do anything when there is no guarantee you'll be around to see the benefits? I do believe in God, but I wonder if he does exist, doesn't he consider placing an entire race of sentient, intelligent beings on a rock floating in the middle of nothing, while providing them with no clue as to why a little cruel? Please humour me...
As for the argueing, it boils down the the special olympic thing, even if you win your still retarded. But people dont do it for winning, the argueing is fun for em.
As for the why bother, imagine if we all went that way ? Humans would have never advanced beyond animals. Course we often act like em, but we are still evolving. One day we may even achieve a good nature if we continue to care and push forward. Apathy isnt the solution though. For with just accepting things as they are entirely, we are doomed to stay stuck as we are.
Ok im out. 6:20 am, way too late. Wife will skin me. peace all :)
Absolutely. Ultimately, all human endeavour is pointless.
My point exactly. This thread is also pointless as it has slowly dropped to the bottom of the pile showing that life is so pointless people dont care how pointless it is.
Your purpose in life is to worship and obey me,your Grand High Poobah
BUMP
Im sorry... I found this classic on my account and decided to bring it back...
Banduria
15-11-2005, 21:11
'Is life really pointless?'
Who cares?
I quite enjoy life, but I do wonder what the point is. Take this forum, for example; people here are involved in the same arguments over and over again. Homosexuality, gun-ownership, Communists vs Fascists, they continue to rumble on. But why? None of you will ever really agree with one another. War is similarly pointless, as is empire-building, because neither will achieve anything permanent. Why bother to do anything when there is no guarantee you'll be around to see the benefits? I do believe in God, but I wonder if he does exist, doesn't he consider placing an entire race of sentient, intelligent beings on a rock floating in the middle of nothing, while providing them with no clue as to why a little cruel? Please humour me...
Than why aren't you pray for him for answers? Or doesn't your religion belive in any more revelation?
If you haven't found something worth dying for, you haven't lived.
Umm...okay...
Life is pointless...as soon as you learn that, it's much more enjoyable...
Passivocalia
15-11-2005, 21:32
I find meaning in this:
Let love be sincere; hate what is evil, hold on to what is good; love one another with mutual affection; anticipate one another in showing honor. Do not grow slack in zeal, be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord.
Rejoice in hope, endure in affliction, persevere in prayer. Contribute to the needs of the holy ones, exercise hospitality. Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse them.
Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. Have the same regard for one another; do not be haughty but associate with the lowly; do not be wise in your own estimation.
The Plutonian Empire
15-11-2005, 21:47
:eek: Women have to have 12 kids?
In the plutonian empire, women will be encouraged to have 21 kids!!!! :fluffle: :D
Ravenclaws
15-11-2005, 22:40
The prupose of life is continue the species.
Cwazybushland
15-11-2005, 23:21
This opened my eyes, really, it did. I have been wasting time on this forum. Never again shall I waste my precious moments at it. Live is just too short, and this is pointless.
Hoos Bandoland
15-11-2005, 23:27
I quite enjoy life, but I do wonder what the point is. Take this forum, for example; people here are involved in the same arguments over and over again. Homosexuality, gun-ownership, Communists vs Fascists, they continue to rumble on. But why? None of you will ever really agree with one another. War is similarly pointless, as is empire-building, because neither will achieve anything permanent. Why bother to do anything when there is no guarantee you'll be around to see the benefits? I do believe in God, but I wonder if he does exist, doesn't he consider placing an entire race of sentient, intelligent beings on a rock floating in the middle of nothing, while providing them with no clue as to why a little cruel? Please humour me...
LIfe is to be lived. All political etc. arguments are merely a way of passing the time, and not a particularly good way of passing it at that. If you're raising a family, doing a job, or just loving one person, your life has meaning.
Super-power
16-11-2005, 00:16
The purpose of life can be expressed in Base 13, as the product of 6 times 9
Barvinia
16-11-2005, 06:03
The meaning of life = Proven worthiness, leading to eternal salvation. ;)
Secluded Islands
16-11-2005, 06:15
life is all about the mating season...
The prupose of life is continue the species.
Thankyou. I look forward to continuing my role as an industrial breeding machine... However, what about lonely and ugly people who don't get the chance to continue the species eh? Are their lives then pointless?
Harlesburg
16-11-2005, 12:03
I quite enjoy life, but I do wonder what the point is. Take this forum, for example; people here are involved in the same arguments over and over again. Homosexuality, gun-ownership, Communists vs Fascists, they continue to rumble on. But why? None of you will ever really agree with one another. War is similarly pointless, as is empire-building, because neither will achieve anything permanent. Why bother to do anything when there is no guarantee you'll be around to see the benefits? I do believe in God, but I wonder if he does exist, doesn't he consider placing an entire race of sentient, intelligent beings on a rock floating in the middle of nothing, while providing them with no clue as to why a little cruel? Please humour me...
Sorry to say this dude but there ismore to life than NS.
Oh Blasphemy(sp)
Sorry to say this dude but there ismore to life than NS.
Oh Blasphemy(sp)
I refuse to believe this.
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 12:06
Thankyou. I look forward to continuing my role as an industrial breeding machine... However, what about lonely and ugly people who don't get the chance to continue the species eh? Are their lives then pointless?
*lol
I always knew it... it's only my own life that's pointless.