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This is an open letter to every Catholic on this forum, practising or not. This Friday the 2/9/05(9/2/05US) go to our parish and light a candle. Please pay the $1 levy as this ensures that some of the costs of the Church are covered, Rome does not pay for parish expenses.

Light a candle in the hope that His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI will finally realise that God loves all his children and honour the doctrine of the Pope John Paul I who reaffirmed Christ's stance that above all else we are to love one another as we love ourselves.

Pray the prayer of St Jude and be sure to tithe.

God bless.

Light a candle for gays?

Would that make them flamers?

maybe...

Light a candle for gays?

Would that make them flamers?
Are you Catholic? No. Go away.

I can't believe I wasted my 1000th post on Squatches...

He does love everybody. :) Rottweilers are capable of love too, you know.

Are you Catholic? No. Go away.

I can't believe I wasted my 1000th post on Squatches...


Yes, you did.

and your irony tastes a bit like tutti-frutti.

Are you Catholic? No. Go away.

I can't believe I wasted my 1000th post on Squatches...

*comforts rotovia*

It's ok. Let's get biblical on his ass brother!!!! *brandishes knife*

*comforts rotovia*

It's ok. Let's get biblical on his ass brother!!!! *brandishes knife*


what're ya gonna do?

Begat me?

A candle for gays? Why are you suddenly pitying us? We are just the same as everyone else - Human beings... And if God intended all gays to burn in hell for all eternity he wouldnt have made us like this. And seeing gays are no more likely to burn in hell than straight people, why light a candle for us? I know straight men that sleep with hundreds of women, is it just me or are they more likely to burn in hell than men who have only ever slept with one or two other men?

1) God made us all in his image.
Therefore no-one is inherently evil.

2) Homosexuality is not a choice.
Therefore God could stop us being gay.

3) If God made us gay and wants us to be happy doesnt that mean we should just go out and enjoy life?

4) I'm going to live my life to the full. I won't have sex with just anyone. You need love. But I'm not going to wait for the Fundamentalist Christians to change their minds. Might be here till the Apocalypse. Live life to the full because you dont know what to expect in the next one... If there is an Afterlife in Heaven or Hell...

In life, it is better to love than hate. :fluffle:

Why do I get the feeling that I'm going to see a lot of well-dressed guys on fire tomorrow?

Why do I get the feeling that I'm going to see a lot of well-dressed guys on fire tomorrow? We like our candles, you know.

I dunno what kinda candles you got in the Roman church, but in the Greek we also give 1$, and there aint no way they cost that much... someone's cashing in.. hm. Gotta get me a piece of the pie.. but how? :confused: Hm..

Anyhow, prayers to gays, normal folks, etc. No one is beyond redemption in my book, myself included even.. hopefully. :(

I know straight men that sleep with hundreds of women, is it just me or are they more likely to burn in hell than men who have only ever slept with one or two other men?

You should see a marriage in the Greek church.. beautiful. But a re-marriage following divorce? It's like a funeral, except the victim isn't dead, so the insults flow freely. Not fun. Straight guys aren't let off the hook for infidelities on our side, no sir.

You should see a marriage in the Greek church.. beautiful. But a re-marriage following divorce? It's like a funeral, except the victim isn't dead, so the insults flow freely. Not fun. Straight guys aren't let off the hook for infidelities on our side, no sir. Apparently you can get a divorce in the Catholic Church - it's just that you have to pay a lot, and it's called an annullment instead. :D

what're ya gonna do?

Begat me?

Oh yer? Punk?
*looks up to heaven*
Get him Jesus!

A candle for gays? Why are you suddenly pitying us? We are just the same as everyone else - Human beings... And if God intended all gays to burn in hell for all eternity he wouldnt have made us like this. And seeing gays are no more likely to burn in hell than straight people, why light a candle for us? I know straight men that sleep with hundreds of women, is it just me or are they more likely to burn in hell than men who have only ever slept with one or two other men?

1) God made us all in his image.
Therefore no-one is inherently evil.

2) Homosexuality is not a choice.
Therefore God could stop us being gay.

3) If God made us gay and wants us to be happy doesnt that mean we should just go out and enjoy life?

4) I'm going to live my life to the full. I won't have sex with just anyone. You need love. But I'm not going to wait for the Fundamentalist Christians to change their minds. Might be here till the Apocalypse. Live life to the full because you dont know what to expect in the next one... If there is an Afterlife in Heaven or Hell...

In life, it is better to love than hate. :fluffle:
Uh, you may want to re-read my post. I'm lighting a candle so that the doctrine declaring homosexual acts a sin is overturned...

Apparently you can get a divorce in the Catholic Church - it's just that you have to pay a lot, and it's called an annullment instead. :D
They're free. But yes you require you first marriage to be annulled by the Church before the Church will remarry you.

Uh, you may want to re-read my post. I'm lighting a candle so that the doctrine declaring homosexual acts a sin is overturned... Knowing Catholicism, don't hold your breath. It definitely won't be in this Pope's lifetime.

Knowing Catholicism, don't hold your breath. It definitely won't be in this Pope's lifetime.

That much is certain. This pope is more likely to announce the formation of an 'Annual Homosexual Culling Season' than he is to admit homosexuality isn't a sin. Which is probably why he's the pope in the first place.

Knowing Catholicism, don't hold your breath. It definitely won't be in this Pope's lifetime.

lmfao, Thank you. I'll be surprised if the Catholic Church catches up with the modern era anytime soon and I'm supposed to be a Catholic. Oh never mind. ;)

That much is certain. This pope is more likely to announce the formation of an 'Annual Homosexual Culling Season' than he is to admit homosexuality isn't a sin. Which is probably why he's the pope in the first place.

Thats a little harsh. Just because he was in the Hitler Youth. We've all been there....

lmfao, Thank you. I'll be surprised if the Catholic Church catches up with the modern era anytime soon and I'm supposed to be a Catholic. Oh never mind. ;)

Oh but we've made some changes. Now we love everyone. Honest! *holds out arms to embrace while hiding dagger*

I was never in the Hitler Youth. Die you scoundrel for suggesting such things!

And remember that half of the Nazi party were gays even though they publicly hated them. Thats not something for me to be proud of but never mind... :headbang:

Oh but we've made some changes. Now we love everyone. Honest! *holds out arms to embrace while hiding dagger*

No way, José!

lmfao, Thank you. I'll be surprised if the Catholic Church catches up with the modern era anytime soon and I'm supposed to be a Catholic. Oh never mind. ;) Maybe we'll get paladin orders. I'd like that. No chivalry and honour any more, no causes, nothing to die for… problems of the modern era indeed. (Less disease, though)

I was never in the Hitler Youth. Die you scoundrel for suggesting such things!

And remember that half of the Nazi party were gays even though they publicly hated them. Thats not something for me to be proud of but never mind... :headbang:

Oooooh.... *baits Siull*..... somebody can't take joke.. even when it's not funny the rule stands.

Oooooh.... *baits Siull*..... somebody can't take joke.. even when it's not funny the rule stands.

Ok. Hahahahahahahahaha. That good enough?

No way, José!
What? Not even if I put a Spanish accent on?

Ok. Hahahahahahahahaha. That good enough?

sheeeesh

This is an open letter to every Catholic on this forum, practising or not. This Friday the 2/9/05(9/2/05US) go to our parish and light a candle. Please pay the $1 levy as this ensures that some of the costs of the Church are covered, Rome does not pay for parish expenses.

Light a candle in the hope that His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI will finally realise that God loves all his children and honour the doctrine of the Pope John Paul I who reaffirmed Christ's stance that above all else we are to love one another as we love ourselves.

Pray the prayer of St Jude and be sure to tithe.

God bless.

Or, even better, change churches, or don't go to one at all.

Or, even better, change churches, or don't go to one at all. I don't have my glasses with me, sorry.

lol. A joke for the Catholics...

Three nuns die and go to Heaven.

At the gates of Heaven, St Peter says to the nuns "You must wash any part of you that has touched a male penis in this holy water"

So the three of them stand in a line.

The first nun walks forward and washes her elbow "I touched a man with my elbow accidentally the other day" and she walks through the gates into Heaven.

The other two walk forward and the third one pushes in front of the second.

St Peter asks her "Why did you feel you had to push in front of your sister?"

And the third nun replies "I didnt want to wash my mouth after shes washed her arse!!!!"

:fluffle:

lol. A joke for the Catholics...

Three nuns die and go to Heaven.

At the gates of Heaven, St Peter says to the nuns "You must wash any part of you that has touched a male penis in this holy water"

So the three of them stand in a line.

The first nun walks forward and washes her elbow "I touched a man with my elbow accidentally the other day" and she walks through the gates into Heaven.

The other two walk forward and the third one pushes in front of the second.

St Peter asks her "Why did you feel you had to push in front of your sister?"

And the third nun replies "I didnt want to wash my mouth after shes washed her arse!!!!"

:fluffle:

Oh that's it! No onw makes fun of our nuns!

Oh that's it! No onw makes fun of our nuns!

Why not?

So we have to give Benedict money, so he will accept gays....... Sounds like a bribe to me

So we have to give Benedict money, so he will accept gays....... Sounds like a bribe to me

Nah. He'll never fall for that. He's far too sly and German.

So we have to give Benedict money, so he will accept gays....... Sounds like a bribe to me Bribes are sometimes necessary, as anyone with kids will tell you. ;)

Bribes are sometimes necessary, as anyone with kids will tell you. ;)
Bribing kids is an entirely different question

This is an open letter to every Catholic on this forum, practising or not. This Friday the 2/9/05(9/2/05US) go to our parish and light a candle. Please pay the $1 levy as this ensures that some of the costs of the Church are covered, Rome does not pay for parish expenses.

Light a candle in the hope that His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI will finally realise that God loves all his children and honour the doctrine of the Pope John Paul I who reaffirmed Christ's stance that above all else we are to love one another as we love ourselves.

Pray the prayer of St Jude and be sure to tithe.

God bless.
Yeah, and HURRY, because if the Pope bans gay priests the Catholic Church will be gone within a week.

Bribes are sometimes necessary, as anyone with kids will tell you. ;)
Yeah, because the Vicar of Christ is a bratty kid who has to be given presents if you want him to play nice with the other children.

Yeah, because the Vicar of Christ is a bratty kid who has to be given presents if you want him to play nice with the other children. I wasn't being… entirely serious. In fact, I wasn't being serious at all.
Yeah, and HURRY, because if the Pope bans gay priests the Catholic Church will be gone within a week. *sigh* In the old days, priests had a reputation for being drunk, untrustworthy and leching after women. I wonder when that image will return…

I wasn't being… entirely serious. In fact, I wasn't being serious at all.

Well drat, because I was agreeing with you!


*sigh* In the old days, priests had a reputation for being drunk, untrustworthy and leching after women. I wonder when that image will return…
I think the image of priests as woman-crazy might have been hurt by the whole "lots of priests are raping little boys" thing. Just a guess. If you want to bring back the good ol' days of womanizing drunks in frocks, you might want to encourage the Pope to stop sheltering and protecting the child molesters.

But, if it helps, I still think most priests are untrustworthy, have horrible attitudes about using and abusing women, and engage in most of the sins they exhort their followers to avoid (including drunkenness).

Well drat, because I was agreeing with you!


I think the image of priests as woman-crazy might have been hurt by the whole "lots of priests are raping little boys" thing. Just a guess. If you want to bring back the good ol' days of womanizing drunks in frocks, you might want to encourage the Pope to stop sheltering and protecting the child molesters.

But, if it helps, I still think most priests are untrustworthy, have horrible attitudes about using and abusing women, and engage in most of the sins they exhort their followers to avoid (including drunkenness). Eh, you must have met the wrong priests, all the ones I know are very helpful and nice. Especially the one who hid the woman who was going to be sent back to Uganda.

Eh, you must have met the wrong priests, all the ones I know are very helpful and nice. Especially the one who hid the woman who was going to be sent back to Uganda.
Same here, though I don't know any priest thathid Ugandian woman under his dress

If you're Catholic, then by definition you believe the pope is infallible, so I'm not really sure what the point of this thread is.
Not to fall into the "no true scotsman" fallacy, but if you support the "light a candle for gays" motion, then you're not a roman catholic, simple as that. Catholicism is pretty solid on this - you can't exactly pick and choose the policies you don't like.

Same here, though I don't know any priest thathid Ugandian woman under his dress This is in Bristol, England, so you probably wouldn't. And it's altar boys who have dresses… damn silly ones in some churches… I'm trying to avoid being press-ganged at the moment.

A candle for gays? Why are you suddenly pitying us? We are just the same as everyone else - Human beings... And if God intended all gays to burn in hell for all eternity he wouldnt have made us like this. And seeing gays are no more likely to burn in hell than straight people, why light a candle for us? I know straight men that sleep with hundreds of women, is it just me or are they more likely to burn in hell than men who have only ever slept with one or two other men?

1) God made us all in his image.
Therefore no-one is inherently evil.

2) Homosexuality is not a choice.
Therefore God could stop us being gay.

3) If God made us gay and wants us to be happy doesnt that mean we should just go out and enjoy life?

4) I'm going to live my life to the full. I won't have sex with just anyone. You need love. But I'm not going to wait for the Fundamentalist Christians to change their minds. Might be here till the Apocalypse. Live life to the full because you dont know what to expect in the next one... If there is an Afterlife in Heaven or Hell...

In life, it is better to love than hate. :fluffle:

You have a sound and irrefutable argument (except for the point about God). To my mind, the human race needs all the help it can get. For us to ignore any human resource, whatever the gender, sexual preference, skin pigmentation, ethnic group, etc. might be. To reject gay people because one objects to what they do in the privacy of a relationship is against good reason.

This is in Bristol, England, so you probably wouldn't. And it's altar boys who have dresses… damn silly ones in some churches… I'm trying to avoid being press-ganged at the moment.
Oh oh. I was an altar boy. But we all had dresses.

Oh oh. I was an altar boy. But we all had dresses. At my cathedral, they have robes. They have altar girls, although the Irish chap trying to press-gang me doesn't approve. :rolleyes:

At my cathedral, they have robes. They have altar girls, although the Irish chap trying to press-gang me doesn't approve. :rolleyes:
Could be a robe, but I always called it a dress. And so did our priest. So there :p

And not having altar girls is sexist..... but the Church is sexist so that figures

Are you Catholic? No. Go away.

I can't believe I wasted my 1000th post on Squatches...
I was catholic does that count?

Oh oh. I was an altar boy. But we all had dresses.
We did as well

Well kids, when lighting a candle for us, we won't mind if you knock that candle over into a tapestry. Then if you proceed to knock over a dozen other candles, all into something flammable, I assure you, we shant take it personally. Then if you were to run around pouring petrol or strong spirits around the place, well I am sure it would be for the best.

I think I will avoid my usual rant against catholocism :rolleyes: , needless to say I am not a fan. Neither am I biased! I am against all forms of organised religion, I just hate catholocism that little bit more. :)

-Phil.

Well kids, when lighting a candle for us, we won't mind if you knock that candle over into a tapestry. Then if you proceed to knock over a dozen other candles, all into something flammable, I assure you, we shant take it personally. Then if you were to run around pouring petrol or strong spirits around the place, well I am sure it would be for the best.

I think I will avoid my usual rant against catholocism :rolleyes: , needless to say I am not a fan. Neither am I biased! I am against all forms of organised religion, I just hate catholocism that little bit more. :)

-Phil. Aye, we'll get a grand fire, laddie!

Although that's really for funerals :) send them off in a burning boat.

If you're Catholic, then by definition you believe the pope is infallible, so I'm not really sure what the point of this thread is.
Not to fall into the "no true scotsman" fallacy, but if you support the "light a candle for gays" motion, then you're not a roman catholic, simple as that. Catholicism is pretty solid on this - you can't exactly pick and choose the policies you don't like.
The Pope is infalable on matter of doctrine, I am free on matters of faith. Homosexaulity is not in the modern schism, so I can differ on my opinion. Also, I am praying for the Pope to change his mind, not that he is wrong.

Oh yer? Punk?
*looks up to heaven*
Get him Jesus!
Isn't going to Jesus for violence like going to the UN for help? The both just sit there and look holier than thou.

Isn't going to Jesus for violence like going to the UN for help? The both just sit there and look holier than thou.
Was this really necessary? Was that actually a necessary comment to make?

Gay people are better than you, so we don't need your candles.

Was this really necessary? Was that actually a necessary comment to make?
Aww cmon, when was I gonna get another chance like that. It's not like people look to Jesus to smite people every day y'know.


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