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I'd just like to gain an insight into the sick sick minds on Ns so i ask you think of the worth punishment possible. For yourself so we get variation.

I'll start off with mine. I'd be locked in a gloomy jial cell where i can't see any natural light. The food would be irregualr and so would the guard patrols. I'd never be let out. There would be a toilet in the cell. I'd loose all sense of time it would be like being suspended in limbo. It would be even better if you could automate it to remove the need for guards i'd go insane.



So get telling.

I'd just like to gain an insight into the sick sick minds on Ns so i ask you think of the worth punishment possible. For yourself so we get variation.

I'll start off with mine. I'd be locked in a gloomy jial cell where i can't see any natural light. The food would be irregualr and so would the guard patrols. I'd never be let out. There would be a toilet in the cell. I'd loose all sense of time it would be like being suspended in limbo. It would be even better if you could automate it to remove the need for guards i'd go insane.



So get telling.

What about if you had that, but you were force fed Barbara Streisand music at extreme volumes and you are given magazines featuring Maggie Thatcher in provocative poses for entertainment?

that would actually make it better it would be something tht didn't originate from my own head as entertainment

You did give me an idea though every now and then i'd play a random extented fly buzzing noise

You guys suck at interrogation.

First: Blind the person entirely, using whatever means neccessary. No light may be allowed into their eyes.

Second: Play a constant white noise that dampens all sound, so they can hear nothing distinctive.


Third: Make a room which is completely devoid of any kind of smell.

Fourth: Give them nothing with taste, water only, and tasteless water, minerals removed.

Fifth: Make them stand, hands against the wall, unmoving. Any movement will be punished by a beating and being forced to again, stand with hands against the wall.

Boom, sensory depravation torture. It's one of the worst tortures yet invented.

so true your left with nothing but your own mind the only way it could be better is if they could float not moving

You guys suck at interrogation.

First: Blind the person entirely, using whatever means neccessary. No light may be allowed into their eyes.

Second: Play a constant white noise that dampens all sound, so they can hear nothing distinctive.


Third: Make a room which is completely devoid of any kind of smell.

Fourth: Give them nothing with taste, water only, and tasteless water, minerals removed.

Fifth: Make them stand, hands against the wall, unmoving. Any movement will be punished by a beating and being forced to again, stand with hands against the wall.

Boom, sensory depravation torture. It's one of the worst tortures yet invented.
If you're gonna do torture, borrow something from the Chinese. They knew how to torture someone.

so true your left with nothing but your own mind the only way it could be better is if they could float not moving

Soon as you invent an anti-gravity field, we're set.

Being forced to keep teaching my current group of second years forever with no break...

Just kidding.

Being in a place with nothing, an absolutly featureless cell where you cannot tell the door from the walls and the floor and celling blend into the walls as well. The light level never varies, and the cell is sound proof.

I'd go nuts within a few days.

yeh but you know someone will moan about human rights lol the only thing even better would be to disable someones imagination so they can't even entertain themselfs inside their own head

I'd just like to gain an insight into the sick sick minds on Ns so i ask you think of the worth punishment possible. For yourself so we get variation.

I'll start off with mine. I'd be locked in a gloomy jial cell where i can't see any natural light. The food would be irregualr and so would the guard patrols. I'd never be let out. There would be a toilet in the cell. I'd loose all sense of time it would be like being suspended in limbo. It would be even better if you could automate it to remove the need for guards i'd go insane.



So get telling.

same thing but without the toilet.

You guys got it all wrong.

Worst punishment ever:

Place someone in a small room, with one TV that plays only non-stop political ads and can't be turned off or turned down.

Maybe intersperse 1980's big-hair band music videos at odd times.

ARGH.

If you're gonna do torture, borrow something from the Chinese. They knew how to torture someone.

What a claim to fame, but Id agree. From everything Ive read is one thing they are really good at. Well and "slave" labor.

Sensory deprivation chamber best device. suspended in liquid, site , sound, touch feelings removed.

Short of that, solitary confinement and mess with their sleep. Turn the light on at irregular times, same with feeding them. give them no pattern to adjust to.

Sensory depravation is very effective. However, one can harness something more powerful; the victims own fear.

First of all, the victim should be naked and completely immobile. Restraints will give him some sensation, and he can still move within them, so his arms and legs and also his neck should be given a local anesthetic regularly to remove all feeling and use. Feeding should be done by tube. He should not be blindfolded, but the room should be pitch black. Smell should be a clinical, hospitally type smell.

Now, the fear bit. He can still feel on his abdomen and face (the parts which you automatically try to protect with your arms and legs) and he can still hear, and see. So, at long, irregular intervals give him a burst of pain or brutal sounds and lights, like a needle wet with alcohol sticking into his face or side. All this should be automated, people in the room would make noise.

He'd be in constant fear of his next sensation, while being deprived of them.

And who said anything about interrogation?

Sensory depravation is very effective. However, one can harness something more powerful; the victims own fear.

First of all, the victim should be naked and completely immobile. Restraints will give him some sensation, and he can still move within them, so his arms and legs and also his neck should be given a local anesthetic regularly to remove all feeling and use. Feeding should be done by tube. He should not be blindfolded, but the room should be pitch black. Smell should be a clinical, hospitally type smell.

Now, the fear bit. He can still feel on his abdomen and face (the parts which you automatically try to protect with your arms and legs) and he can still hear, and see. So, at long, irregular intervals give him a burst of pain or brutal sounds and lights, like a needle wet with alcohol sticking into his face or side. All this should be automated, people in the room would make noise.

He'd be in constant fear of his next sensation, while being deprived of them.

And who said anything about interrogation?

Total deprivation would be better. the torturers with your system would no doubt fall into a pattern as is more human nature then most may like to admit.

Whereas the mind deprived would eat at itself with lack of input from outside sources, which your method would still provide. yes, yours would be cruel. But I still think the other would be worse torment. the mind is a terrible thing.

I read Dante's Inferno recently and the punishments in that are quite unpleasant. Of course, they are set in Hell, where everyone is supposed to be doomed for eternity, but there you go.

Make them eat their pubes... and then your pubes... and then everyone's pubes hahahahahahah puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubes! Hahah :p

I prefer old fashioned agonising pain.

How about this.
You are strapped down, your head forced to point at your legs, your eyelids removed, forcing you to stare at your own leg, your legs are raised in order to access the calf muscle. At this point the torturer takes a sharp instrument (scalple, razor blade, sharpened cheesewire) and removes a long thin piece of your calf. The thin piece is dipped in salt and then replaced in the place it was removed.

The same thing can be done all over the body, particularly on the abdomen, where an instrument resembling a highly sharpened icecream scoop is used to remove a large chunk of flesh.

Painfull eh?

Well, maybe I'm old fashioned, but I say strapping someone down, and using a shaving razor(well, many) to slowly cut off all of the person's skin. If they pass out, you try to control their bleeding, and wait for them to wake up again. Do such until they die of blood loss.

This thread is very very very strange :eek:
There are plenty of punishments which are almost un imaginable but too awful to speak off :(

Tylaran']I prefer old fashioned agonising pain.

How about this.
You are strapped down, your head forced to point at your legs, your eyelids removed, forcing you to stare at your own leg, your legs are raised in order to access the calf muscle. At this point the torturer takes a sharp instrument (scalple, razor blade, sharpened cheesewire) and removes a long thin piece of your calf. The thin piece is dipped in salt and then replaced in the place it was removed.

The same thing can be done all over the body, particularly on the abdomen, where an instrument resembling a highly sharpened icecream scoop is used to remove a large chunk of flesh.

Painfull eh?
*gags*

The victim would be put into a padded room where everything is in the most sickening shade of pink imaginable. The lights should be really, really, bright. And the room should be really hot. The victim should be bricked in except for a slot where food that tastes really bitter can be passed to the prisoner. There should be just enough to keep him alive, but not enough to make the prisoner feel full.

Tie a person to the floor, and set a very sharp blade swinging about three millimetres away from their crotch like a pendulum. Plaster hardcore pornography across the roof and then remove their blindfold...

I suppose a pencil sharpener would be effective too, though it'd have to be a giant one. Well, I can't speak for everybody about that anyway.

Without real physical torture you could just keep a person awake for a few weeks. Just wake him up every time he falls asleep.

Worst punishment:

Make the criminal understand who they really are.

Then cook them.

You will need:

1. A victim
2. A bamboo plant (the kind that can grow 3cm a day)
3. A chair with a hole in the seat
4. Some rope.

Tie the victim to the chair so they can't move and put the bamboo underneath them. I'm sure I don't need to spell it out.

Apparantly this was a genuine torture, I'm not sure how the bamboo grew without light though. :D

Start with a tank of warm sterile water treated with minerals to produce neutral boyancy. Have a mask that delivers air strapped to the vitims face. Use tetratotoxic to induce paralasis drop person in tank hook IV feeding tube. Randomly change light heat sound and the intoduction of fish.

A Richard Simmons/Barbara Streisand duet while being forced to watch Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore make sweet love to each other while a Skunk roams freely in the room. Also one foot will be in Ice cold water while the other foot will be placed in boiling water.

me and my friends tried to do this so.....


getting a mans balls and whacking them onto a splintered workbench, where after a teaser of hot metal rods he is them castrated by use of a blunt file this happens while a goose is stuffed down his top and a dogs bollocks rubbed into his mouth


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watch an episode of Pimp MY Ride UK / Tim Westwood music video or him talk for an hour

I saw an interesting means of torture once. Hook up the brain so that it's getting an adequate supply of oxygenated blood. Then dunk the person into a vat full of swamp water - the kind that's dark, viscous and stinks. And leave them there. Eventually, they won't be able to hold their breath any longer, and let it out, followed by a rapid inhalation of vile smelling/tasting swamp water. And let them continue to drown. They won't die, or even pass out, their brain is getting all the oxygen it needs, so they can feel themselves drowning, slowly, and painfully, with no hope of an end in sight......

Do as the Puritans did:
take them down a 200' mine shaft with tunnels leading away from the bottom like spokes. Blindfold them, spin them for 10 minutes straight, and lead them down a tunnel to a completely featureless, pitchblack room. leave them there for eternity, knocking them unconcious before giving them food.
Utter lack of senses of direction and time.

I saw an interesting means of torture once. Hook up the brain so that it's getting an adequate supply of oxygenated blood. Then dunk the person into a vat full of swamp water - the kind that's dark, viscous and stinks. And leave them there. Eventually, they won't be able to hold their breath any longer, and let it out, followed by a rapid inhalation of vile smelling/tasting swamp water. And let them continue to drown. They won't die, or even pass out, their brain is getting all the oxygen it needs, so they can feel themselves drowning, slowly, and painfully, with no hope of an end in sight......
But if the brain is getting enough oxygen, there is no percieved need to take another breath.

1. paper cuts to their eyes
2. paper cuts to the tip of the penis (and/or their nipples)
3. bamboo spikes under their finger/toe nails
4. a new stench fed into their cell every 10 minutes so they cant get use to the scent
5. very humid room
6. put mesquitos, fruit flys, and crickets in the romm and shut the door
7. paper cuts between the fingers
8. random mumifications

Constant bright light, constant white noise, no interaction, no stimulation, no hope, no chance of escape (either through leaving or through suicide).

long-term punishment:

incarceration inside a 27-cubic-foot (3 by 3 by 3) cell/cage

But if the brain is getting enough oxygen, there is no percieved need to take another breath.

Yeah there is, the brain has oxygen, but the body doesn't know it. Even if you hold your breath, there is oxygen still being delivered to your body because each breath uses only some of the oxygen in your lungs (thats why artificial respiration works), but you still need to take a breath. The brain will think that unless you take a breath, it's oxygen supply will disappear

Solitary confinement in a coffin sized cell with country music piped in.

Solitary confinement in a coffin sized cell with country music piped in.

and worms/bugs/non-poisonous snakes

Hm-m-m, let's see.

I'm a big fan of ironic tortures for people that deserve them. Of course, Dante's Inferno made me very happy. <.<

A random one that I think would drive absolutely anybody insane... Probably being very slowly skinned, salted and tanned alive.

Also: Making the condemned watch the person ahead of them suffer this first.
Also Also: Making the condemned, just prior to this punishment, eat some of the 'human jerky' made from the person they just watched.

I'd just like to gain an insight into the sick sick minds on Ns so i ask you think of the worth punishment possible. For yourself so we get variation.

I'll start off with mine. I'd be locked in a gloomy jial cell where i can't see any natural light. The food would be irregualr and so would the guard patrols. I'd never be let out. There would be a toilet in the cell. I'd loose all sense of time it would be like being suspended in limbo. It would be even better if you could automate it to remove the need for guards i'd go insane.



So get telling.

Sounds like Foucault's Panopticon. A prison where the guards are along the walls but unseeable and the prisoners are in cells with 3 walls and a glass panel facing out to the guards. The guards have complete control but no one knows if they are there or not.

Most criminals there (it's a theory) would die in 1-2 years from insanity.

Ok...of course all of this would start after cutting off the person's eyelids so they can't just close their eyes to avoid the scene. Their hands would be bound behind their back, and their feet would be tied together as well.

First...

Gilbert Godfrey reading sick porn novels (stuff that would make Larry Flynt vomit) through an amplified PA. He would occasionally give commentary about how he would do it better. He might even occasionally do actual demonstrations on a Real Doll just for clarification.

then...

Cover the victim with oreo cookies and introduce to the room sixteen women (each weighing at least a metric ton) who have recently decided to jump off the weight watchers bandwagon...oh what the heck...make them armless and give them all really sharp braces on their teeth.

then...

Let eight full grown sheepdogs with the mange enter the room, all covered with fecal matter, as they have all just had a full bowl of rotten food, and they all have a bad case of the runs....the explosive kind.

then...

Introduce Julia Childs naked, enters on a pogo stick, whistling "Hail to the Chief" as loud as she can...

then...

Bring in twenty-eight toothless nasty crack-ho strippers to give lap dances...oh, did I mention they all have the herp....and a lot of it too.

finally...

Clear out the room and tell the person it is almost over. Tie them to a bed dressed up in a school boy uniform. Gouge out their eyes and pierce their ear drums right as Michael Jackson enters the room wearing flame red lingerie...

Once immortality is somehow possible:
being sealed in an air-tight coffin. The victim is chained in a way to prevent movement. Leave them in there forever. Boredom can create more torture than pain or political feedback from the bowels of the American political machine.

death: skinning alive. People do it to animals in China.

But if the brain is getting enough oxygen, there is no percieved need to take another breath.
Yes, there is. The brain isn't the only organ to use oxygen and produce carbon dioxide, and the chemoreceptors that detect the pH change in the blood caused by increased CO2 levels aren't in the brain. If O2 was delivered specifically and only to the brain, the rest of the body would accumulate CO2 in the bloodstream and hence trigger the need to breathe. The stimulus to breathe may come from the brain, but the detector is not there.

one bye one removal of all fingers and toes,with suffiecient time for the previous wound to heal a little before the next is inflicted.
burning the genitals
electrocuting the genitals
forcing the subject to watch actual/good forgeries of videos/pictures of his/her loved ones enduring torture and rape and eventual drawn out murder
denial of any form of conversation,no questions asked,no orders given.the subject would be physically forced into the necessary place/position
the minum amount of food and water,at irregular periods
chemical burns
rape
gang rape
removal of skin from random areas of the body
salting all wounds
torturing subjects in front of the others
all of the above in front of other subjects
surgical removal of vocal cords of all subjects with minimum sadation
forcing subjects to rape each other(not sure how without giving orders)
removal of one eye manually
then the other
implantation or sharp objects into random places in the subjects body,esp body cavaties
hair on the head burned off with a blowtorch
all teeth pulled
circumscision
castration(in the case of male subjects,and also note how i didnt say that in the previous suggestion)
constant and random annoying noises,like these:noise 1 (http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/) ,noise 2 (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php) ,noise 3 (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/annoying/) ,noise 4 (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/footy/)
desecration of something held dear to the subject(other than loved ones who wre mentioned above)
removal of arms and legs,piece by piece
eventual death by disembowling

oh yes,and the subject would be locked in a perfectly circular room,pitch black and sound proofed,which can spin in any direction at any time

All I know is that if somebody were to torture me it'd probably involve an airplaine and at least 6 stewardesses. OMG girls. Icky.

Being locked in a room with my mother and mother-in law at the same time. While listening to that Mentos Mints jingle. *gasp*

sitting through a britney spears concert...*shudders*

Total deprivation would be better. the torturers with your system would no doubt fall into a pattern as is more human nature then most may like to admit.

Whereas the mind deprived would eat at itself with lack of input from outside sources, which your method would still provide. yes, yours would be cruel. But I still think the other would be worse torment. the mind is a terrible thing.

You can avoid falling into a patern by automating the procedure.

I like the deprivation ideas, but the real creativity is in the painful ones.

first, get a large (infinite?) supply of blood (containing oxigen, 'food', water, hormones, ... everything the body needs and make). Now remove the victim's hearth and pump the blood in his body. For fun, make his children or other loved ones eat his heart before his eyes. Now slowely start cutting away bits of flesh from his entire body. Avoid cutting veins and important nerves - they must stay alive (put him in a bath filled with blood every 15 mins should help keeping the open nerves alive i suppose). Continue doing this until all flesh and organs are removed. Remove the bones (use them to club his loved ones?) take his eyes (don't detach) and let them look at himself. A very important thing is to give him substances that make sure he keeps feeling pain (so that the pain doesn't go away) and if possible, amplify it. Now let him live until his brain fails.

The worst torture would be one that offered the illusion of escape. With no chance of survival, a person will either die, or simply quit caring after awhile. If they die, the game is over, and if they quit caring/go completely insane, then there is no real point in still going on, is there?
No, instead the victim has to almost get out, but at great cost. Let them think that they are escaping a prison, and then spread broken glass in the hallways causing them to lacerate their feet as they run. When they can see daylight at the end, stop them, beat them a bit, and return them to prison. Then set up another escape opportunity (with a bit of self inflicted torture along the way, such as having floor to ceiling (well protected) video screens show DareDevil, Elektra, Pearl Harbour, etc. all along the route).
The key here is to make their time in between escapes relatively non-harmful (maybe even mildly pleasant) to make all their agonies be both their fault and contrasted by the rest of their time.

Deprive sleep from someone until George Bush says in public, a full complete original, inteligent sentence that someone hadn't written for him.

Tie someone to an airplane propellor.

Crucifix on a mechanical bull.

Forcing someone to hang on to barbed wire or fall into a pit of sewage and broken bottles.

And remember an important torturing rule of thumb: just add naked!

It involves cutting off the eyelids, burying them up to their heads in sand amongst ants and spiders, and positioning their heads toward the sun.

You people aren't creative at all.

What you need:
Concentrated sulfuric acid.
A glass eyedropper.
A generator.
Surgical instruments.
A doctor who specializes in the spine.
A bed of nails
A stool
A TV screen hanging above the bed of nails.
Several cameras
A good Sound system
The most depressing classical music you can fid. This includes much of Wagner, and Shostakovich's 7th, 8th, and 9th Symphonies. Also get a recording of Deerhoof's Panda Panda Panda.
Pure copper wire with very, very small clamps.
A computer with a 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4 rand generator active on it.


What you do:Strip the person naked. Stretch his arms and legs out as far as you can and tie him to the bed of nails. Start the music. Cut his eyelids away and lower the TV so that's all he can see. Start dripping sulfuric acid on his body, never enough to kill him, and leave his eyes alone. Have the cameras concentrate on where the sulfuric acid is burning his flesh. Continue this until Shosta's Ninth comes around, do not play Deerhoof yet. Use a small amount of sulfuric acid on his eyes to blind him. Bolt the stool to the ground. Tie him to it, sitting upright. Have the doctor connect the wire to the nerve inside the spinal cord that transmits pain. This bypasses the pain blockers in your spinal cord and you won't ever black out from the pain, no matter how bad it gets. Have 4 be maximum output of electricity and 0 be off. Start the Deerhoof song on loop. Start the random number generator. Leave the room and let him die.

You people aren't creative at all.

What you need:
Concentrated sulfuric acid.
A glass eyedropper.
A generator.
Surgical instruments.
A doctor who specializes in the spine.
A bed of nails
A stool
A TV screen hanging above the bed of nails.
Several cameras
A good Sound system
The most depressing classical music you can fid. This includes much of Wagner, and Shostakovich's 7th, 8th, and 9th Symphonies. Also get a recording of Deerhoof's Panda Panda Panda.
Pure copper wire with very, very small clamps.
A computer with a 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4 rand generator active on it.


What you do:Strip the person naked. Stretch his arms and legs out as far as you can and tie him to the bed of nails. Start the music. Cut his eyelids away and lower the TV so that's all he can see. Start dripping sulfuric acid on his body, never enough to kill him, and leave his eyes alone. Have the cameras concentrate on where the sulfuric acid is burning his flesh. Continue this until Shosta's Ninth comes around, do not play Deerhoof yet. Use a small amount of sulfuric acid on his eyes to blind him. Bolt the stool to the ground. Tie him to it, sitting upright. Have the doctor connect the wire to the nerve inside the spinal cord that transmits pain. This bypasses the pain blockers in your spinal cord and you won't ever black out from the pain, no matter how bad it gets. Have 4 be maximum output of electricity and 0 be off. Start the Deerhoof song on loop. Start the random number generator. Leave the room and let him die.
If it kills it's not a very good punishment. Killing just ends the suffering.

sitting through a britney spears concert...*shudders*
At least theres eye candy. :fluffle:

Oh, oh, I thought of another, really fun one.

Stick 'em in a room with only the following inside:

A chair
A scalpel
A durable wooden peg, roughly the thickness of a pencil and the sharpness of a (human) tooth
A set of speakers in every corner, connected to...
A television that cannot be turned off, which plays only sermons from Jerry Falwell, over and over again.


Sit back and watch to see whether the person gouges out their eyes and ears to escape the blather, or figures out a way to destroy the TV. In the case of the latter, wait until the person goes to sleep and replace the TV, taking away one of the tools. Fun!

Deprive sleep from someone until George Bush says in public, a full complete original, inteligent sentence that someone hadn't written for him.

you know they'd go insane and stop caring after about three days.

Having jumper cables inserted to your testicles and nipples while being nailed to a cross, having gasoline poured all over you and then being set on fire. All of this while watching "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure".

living with tony and cherie blair....


*shudders*

Having a person's feet tied by a rope and lowered head first into the flames of a fire.

getting stuck in a tube backwards. like this (http://filebox.vt.edu/users/khassing/stuckintube.bmp)

getting stuck in a tube backwards. like this (http://filebox.vt.edu/users/khassing/stuckintube.bmp)
:eek: