NationStates Jolt Archive

We see it on TV. We see the pictures every day. It pisses me off.

I'm talking about Abu Grahib. The Prision in Iraq where the "torture" occured. I'm tired of it getting so much Media coverage, so much attention, and im tired of the tortures Suddam Hussain did get ignored.

So what? We threw a bunch of prisoneers in a naked pile. Honestly, Suddam Hussain did much worse.

Suddam Hussain would gaulge his peoples eyes out. He would stick sharp objects in his victums eye, gauge them out, and replace them with paper. He would create open wounds in his prisoners, and pour acid in them. He would suspend his prisonners to the celing for hours, tieing their wrists, and causing damage to their upper body. He would shock their bodys with high amp/voltage wires. He would rape his women, shove bottles into their anus, and more.

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Is that worse then Abu Ghraib?

are you for real are just looking for attention ? your saying cause we arn't as bad that we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard ? we just have to be not as bad as the other tyrant... yeah theres a good idea.

I'm just tired of everything WE did being blown up, and everything they did being ignored. It's nuts, so what if we set our self to a higher standard? They did worse things, not us!

Although, yes, it is true that Saddam Hussein was a much worse offender of human rights than the Americans are - if the latter can even be considered offenders of human rights - I think the idea behind the media coverate on Guantanamo Bay is that the United States, a first world nation, who went to war with Iraq reportedly to spread "democracy" is having troubles with keeping the peace between American soldiers and Islamic prisoners - often ending up, as we've seen, in the degredation of the Quran [although several instances, I guess, were proved incorrect] and prisoner torture, especially in POW camps within Iraq itself.

So, the world expects that sort of behaviour from Saddam, and worse, however, they don't expect it from a nation which considers itself amongst the most civilized - that's what is so outragous about the United States and its treatment of Iraqi prisoners of war.

Regardless, I think people should still consider the world without Saddam Hussein a better world, even if Bush did lie - which he did [you can say he based his attack on false intelligence; but I still think he lied] - but nonetheless, an Iraq without a Hussein is a better Iraq, even if it has to go through some tough times.

Just my two cents.

Is that worse then Abu Ghraib?

Not really, but does that somehow make Abu Ghraib better? Because it's not as bad as what Saddam did? Think about your logic a little longer...

Come on people. Tourture is over, and the people involved were punished. In every war, every army will have a few bad apples who mistreat prisoners. I don't commend what they did, it's a disgrace to America, but the media should not be on our backs about this like they are. These people will do anything to kill 1 American. We shouldn't be extremely humane to them. If they don't talk, whats wrong with a slap or a page of the Quar'an(sp) burned? Nothing.

I just went and punched an old lady in the kidneys. So what? Other people have done a lot worse crimes.

Come on people. Tourture is over, and the people involved were punished. In every war, every army will have a few bad apples who mistreat prisoners. I don't commend what they did, it's a disgrace to America, but the media should not be on our backs about this like they are. These people will do anything to kill 1 American. We shouldn't be extremely humane to them. If they don't talk, whats wrong with a slap or a page of the Quar'an(sp) burned? Nothing.

Yeah, not much is wrong with that. It's just a side-effect of people fighting for their lives.

I think we should just keep with the prisoner policy we had in WWII.

I just went and punched an old lady in the kidneys. So what? Other people have done a lot worse crimes.

*suggests that you are picked for sainthood*

I just went and punched an old lady in the kidneys.

Feels good, don't it?

Feels good, don't it?

It feels great.

Is that worse then Abu Ghraib?Did you vote for Saddam? Was Saddam calling for the ousting of the Kuwaiti Regime because they were being barbaric?

I believe an eye for an eye if the insurgents want to torture and execute people they have kidnapped or captured I believe that Iraqi POWs or insurgents should be executed and if the insurgents kill American workers over there then Iraqi civilians should be killed. There is no reason why Americans should be peaceful to murders. Besides this is war.

I believe an eye for an eye if the insurgents want to torture and execute people they have kidnapped or captured I believe that Iraqi POWs or insurgents should be executed and if the insurgents kill American workers over there then Iraqi civilians should be killed. There is no reason why Americans should be peaceful to murders. Besides this is war.
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." - Mahatma Ghandi

Incidentally, are you familiar with something called the Geneva Convention?

Yes I am but I will stick to what I said. There is no need to spear insurgents.
But this is a tricky matter because "ONE MAN'S TERRORIST IS ANOTHER MAN'S FREEDOM FIGHTER."-The History Channel (Don't remember the name of the historian.)

I believe an eye for an eye if the insurgents want to torture and execute people they have kidnapped or captured I believe that Iraqi POWs or insurgents should be executed and if the insurgents kill American workers over there then Iraqi civilians should be killed. There is no reason why Americans should be peaceful to murders. Besides this is war.Yes there is.
Now why should Iraqi civilians be killed?
Why should POWs, who obviously have nothing to do with the insurgents, since they are considered POWs, be killed for what the insurgents do?

it is much worse than what he did. we are there to help the country, not embarrass its people more.

I believe an eye for an eye if the insurgents want to torture and execute people they have kidnapped or captured I believe that Iraqi POWs or insurgents should be executed and if the insurgents kill American workers over there then Iraqi civilians should be killed. There is no reason why Americans should be peaceful to murders. Besides this is war.


We shouldn't do this because we are better then the insurgents. If we sink to their level we not only get the Iraqis to resent us even more and fuel the insurgency, but we start to become like the insurgents.

Bush now says we invaded to spread freedom. How would it look to the nation and world if we start to execute and torture our enemies? Soon we'll do it to suspects, then innocent people just to pay back the insurgents.

The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Now why should Iraqi civilians be killed?

On a tangent, you should ask the insurgents that. Nearly everytime they try to attack us, they kill at least 10 times as many civilians as American servicemen. That's not even counting the bombing of police headquarters or people registering to vote. Our boys aren't even in the area, and they still bomb. Somebody should do a total Iraqi civilians killed by us versus Iraqi civilians killed by the insurgents. I'll bet the insurgents killed more by a landslide.