NationStates Jolt Archive


To All Nations Who Have Offered to Help With Relief

Kaukolastan
01-09-2005, 03:53
Thank you. Simple as that. Thank you.

I, while not living in the affected areas, am grateful for the offers, as an American. Yes, we could pull ourselves up, fix it up ourselves, walk it off in a few years to a decade. We've got the resources, the fungibility, the manpower (unlike Southeast Asia a while back)... but you still offered, you said you cared.

And that matters. Thank you.

Now, there's always some asshat who must shit in the pie, as shown by the Holy Warriors who claim that "Private Katrina has joined the global jihad" and other such filth, but let's not let those morons overshadow the good works elsewhere. And yes, there are the people who claim that America brought this on with global warming, despite the Hurrican Cycle evidence, under the assumption that Katrina was merely enforcing Kyoto on us... but the vast majority understand that the people in the disaster areas are the the poor, the destitute.

So, thank you. Chavez, one of the strongest anti-American politicians in the world today, has offered money and oil. Our northern neighbors, despite the cross-border sniping, stepped up to the plate. Around the world, people said, "We feel for you." And that matters; so, thank you.

To all other Americans, don't feel snipped when someone says, "You don't need the help." We really don't. (Unless a recession hits, then there'll be hell to pay.) They're saying they want to help. So say thank you.

K-stan
And I'm a Republican! :eek:
Kaukolastan
01-09-2005, 03:55
Just trying to blow some fresh air into the forum, a NICE thread about the world for a change, and to counter the already politicizing Katrina debates.

KEEP IT NICE!
Kisogo
01-09-2005, 04:01
Good idea. I agree. I think it's all true. But I don't think we should blame nations who chose not to give either. We should just honor the generous.
Fass
01-09-2005, 04:02
While your gratitude is appreciated, I am jaded to it, because I recall the "Nous sommes tous Americains" ("We are all Americans") front page of Le Monde post 9/11 being forgotten, and reciprocated with "freedom fries" and "surrender monkeys."

The attention span does indeed seem short.
Kryozerkia
01-09-2005, 04:04
While your gratitude is appreciated, I am jaded to it, because I recall the "Nous sommes tous Americains" ("We are all Americans") front page of Le Monde post 9/11 being forgotten, and reciprocated with "freedom fries" and "surrender monkeys."

The attention span does indeed seem short.
I agree.

I do hope that they begin to realise that the rest of the world isn't always against them. That the world is not such a bad place and that if they reformed their foreign policy to be more user friendly, more countries would help more often.
Kaukolastan
01-09-2005, 04:06
While your gratitude is appreciated, I am jaded to it, because I recall the "Nous sommes tous Americains" ("We are all Americans") front page of Le Monde post 9/11 being forgotten, and reciprocated with "freedom fries" and "surrender monkeys."

The attention span does indeed seem short.
Oy, I understand. You know, a lot of that I chalk up to the traditional American-French cross-pond sniping. If you look throughout history, it's pretty bad, and the relation tends to swing from pissy to loving. (I think it stems from our original Anglo heritage, that old Brit-France Rivalry)

On the upshot, we tend to get together when the shit hits the fan.

"Lafayette, we are here." - General "Blackjack" Pershing, WWI

K-stan's Breath of Fresh Air
Carnivorous Lickers
01-09-2005, 04:07
While your gratitude is appreciated, I am jaded to it, because I recall the "Nous sommes tous Americains" ("We are all Americans") front page of Le Monde post 9/11 being forgotten, and reciprocated with "freedom fries" and "surrender monkeys."

The attention span does indeed seem short.


Hey Fass- you should know as well as anyone that one or two ignoramuses could have been responsible-the media reports it and paints it as if its the entire landscape here.
I nor anyone I know switched from "French" fries, to "Freedom" fries.

Dont pretend that you believe thats how any significant number of Americans felt or that your jaded because of that.
Jah Bootie
01-09-2005, 04:07
That's the most self-aggrandizing, condescending "thank you" I've ever heard. It sounds great in the voice of Phil Hartman.
Kaukolastan
01-09-2005, 04:09
That's the most self-aggrandizing, condescending "thank you" I've ever heard. It sounds great in the voice of Phil Hartman.
Ouch, dude. Love you too.

EDIT: If you meant the "we can take it", that was more to defuse the "THEY DIDN'T SEND MONEY" argument from starting. We DO have the capability to pull ourselves up, but it won't be easy. It's an argument against us begging for money that would better go elsewhere.

Sheesh... I try to be nice on here.
Trilateral Commission
01-09-2005, 04:23
While your gratitude is appreciated, I am jaded to it, because I recall the "Nous sommes tous Americains" ("We are all Americans") front page of Le Monde post 9/11 being forgotten, and reciprocated with "freedom fries" and "surrender monkeys."

The attention span does indeed seem short.
"We are all Americans" is about how America brought 9/11 upon itself... which I do agree with, but the article is definitely not a show of love and support from France.
Carnivorous Lickers
01-09-2005, 04:24
I agree- to anyone who donates their money, time,skills or material-THANK YOU.
Jah Bootie
01-09-2005, 04:26
Ouch, dude. Love you too.

EDIT: If you meant the "we can take it", that was more to defuse the "THEY DIDN'T SEND MONEY" argument from starting. We DO have the capability to pull ourselves up, but it won't be easy. It's an argument against us begging for money that would better go elsewhere.

Sheesh... I try to be nice on here.
lol sorry

I don't really think you're a jerk. It's just the way it was worded it sounded kind of condescending. I get what you're trying to say though.
Kisogo
01-09-2005, 04:27
If only a thread where the world could stand as one, hold hands, and say thank you was possible on NS. You know, one that focused on the good and not the bad. But that's just not what the community is like. I guess it's fated to be like that in such a politically charged forum. A little bit like the world.
Carnivorous Lickers
01-09-2005, 04:27
I need only come to boards such as this to see that Donald Rumsfeld's spitting in the face of "old Europe" was very much shared by large sections of the American public. Le Monde, prior to the American presidential election, Tous non-Américains? (http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3208,36-364816,0.html) - just three years after their famous headline.

So, yes, I am jaded to American gratitude. So much so, that I no longer expect it.

Well-dont take it personally- I'm sure no American will ever have reason to show any gratitude to you, personally.

They'll just be thanking those who actually did do something, or even just had a kind word.

So, this really shouldnt matter to you, one way or another.
[NS]Antre_Travarious
01-09-2005, 04:34
Agreed, thank you all who send your support, even if it just moral.
Fass
01-09-2005, 04:42
Well-dont take it personally- I'm sure no American will ever have reason to show any gratitude to you, personally.

How little you know me. But, fine, if that's the way you wish to write me off as, be my guest. Those of your countrymen who mean a great personal deal to me know better. And theirs is the opinion that is worth something, not your attempt at a dig.
The Downmarching Void
01-09-2005, 04:49
Actually, I'd like to go there to help I can. I need to find a suitable volunteer agency that I can go there with...if thats possible. Is it still to early and the mess really just begining or is there already a call/need for foreign volunteers? Anyone have any good suggestions to where I should start looking?
Fass
01-09-2005, 04:57
Actually, I'd like to go there to help I can. I need to find a suitable volunteer agency that I can go there with...if thats possible. Is it still to early and the mess really just begining or is there already a call/need for foreign volunteers? Anyone have any good suggestions to where I should start looking?

If you have medical experience, Medecins Sans Frontières may be appropriate. The Red Cross is another good bet, too.

This site (http://www.idealist.org/) seems to have suggestions.
The Downmarching Void
01-09-2005, 05:11
If you have medical experience, Medecins Sans Frontières may be appropriate. The Red Cross is another good bet, too.

This site (http://www.idealist.org/) seems to have suggestions.
Thanks for the link.

I have no medical experience. I work as a restoration specialist, and could *nearly* run a foundry single handedly (casting both sculptures and machine parts, etc. etc)

Doubt there's much call for that. I'll just have to put my back into it.
Neaness
01-09-2005, 06:58
I was planning earlier today to find a cheap flight down there, but I realised that as I have no useful skills and would probably be incapacitated at the sight of the first body, that wouldn't work. But I had an idea about putting together entertainment packages for the little kids stuck in the 'Dome. Like, if each one had some crayons, a teddy bear, a little activity book, a deck of cards, and a book to read, it would make things a little more bearable in there, wouldn't it?