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ok who here does drugs and loves them? i personaly like weed :D

what makes you like/hate drugs?

ok who here does drugs and loves them? i personaly like weed :D

what makes you like/hate drugs?
I want drugs legalized because it is more efficiant (Pure Metal would be my source) to make paper from pot than trees. Thus demand for standing timber would be decreased causing the price to fall. Companies that make wood products will have to pay less for timber and become more profitable. These profits could be used to go back on pay decreases for the employees (like my dad). Or they could be used to further reduce the price of the product, making the BC increasing sales and creating more work.

Thankfully I have weed to keep me off of drugs.

I enjoy marijuana and hash and have been known from time to time to take mushrooms and acid :)

what makes you like/hate drugs?

I personally find something frightening about the idea of consuming chemicals that will significantly alter my inhibitions and my rationality. It's like surrendering your free will in exchange for fleeting pleasure. If someone else wants to use drugs to affect their own mind in such a way, so be it, but I refuse to compromise my own freedom.

No They Aren't!

I personally find something frightening about the idea of consuming chemicals that will significantly alter my inhibitions and my rationality. It's like surrendering your free will in exchange for fleeting pleasure. If someone else wants to use drugs to affect their own mind in such a way, so be it, but I refuse to compromise my own freedom.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... oh... you're serious? :eek:

I want drugs legalized because it is more efficiant (Pure Metal would be my source) to make paper from pot than trees. Thus demand for standing timber would be decreased causing the price to fall. Companies that make wood products will have to pay less for timber and become more profitable. These profits could be used to go back on pay decreases for the employees (like my dad). Or they could be used to further reduce the price of the product, making the BC increasing sales and creating more work.

Very good points, and other people have thought of them, too.
There was a push to make pot plants that had no "get-you-high" effects, so that they could be farmed without the "drugs are bad" stigma, and then used to make clothing/paper/etc. very efficiently.

The pro-marijuana crowd shouted them down, if I recall, claiming that these non-THC plants could seed their pot plants, and decrease the effectiveness of marijuana.

Please note: I do NOT have all the facts on this issue, it's all half-remembered from years ago.

I personally find something frightening about the idea of consuming chemicals that will significantly alter my inhibitions and my rationality. It's like surrendering your free will in exchange for fleeting pleasure. If someone else wants to use drugs to affect their own mind in such a way, so be it, but I refuse to compromise my own freedom.
You're a sorta Hobbes/Kant person then huh? The freedom to obey a rule one gives oneself.

I don't quite know how you figure that drugs cause you to surrender your free will, if you take them of your own volition that it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... oh... you're serious? :eek:

Um, yes.

Why do drugs get you high? Because they are effecting the chemicals in your brain. What controls your personality and/or free will? The chemicals in your brain. Drugs DO change how you act.

Sure, so does adrenalin, or happiness, or.... - and we don't say that being happy effects our free will.

What I hate about drugs is how most drug users don't understand what the long-term effects of the drugs will be. And how non-drug users fear these effects. I do actually believe that a little drug use can be beneficial in a lot of cases, but while we demonize drugs, "responsible" people who don't understand the implications will avoid them. And, while we play up the drug culture, "responsible" people who take drugs don't have all the information to make informed choices for themselves.

I once asked my father if marijuana really was that bad, since it seems pretty harmless. He's done a study into the long-term effects, and rattled off a very long and scary list, including some real-life examples of these effects. Now, I'm not saying that everyone who smokes a little pot is going to turn into a raving psycho, quite the opposite. It's more subtle than that.

For example, if you have a predisposition towards skitzophrenia, smoking pot is MUCH more likely to cause you to start suffering from skitzophrenia. Nobody told me that, until this discussion. I'd had plenty of opportunity to smoke pot previously, with everyone telling me that it's perfectly safe. They don't know my personal medical history, that my grandmother was skitzophrenic from a young age, and that I am possibly predisposed towards it. They probably didn't even know that it could increase skitzophrenic tendancies. My greatest fear is loosing my mind, smoking pot is an unacceptable risk for me. There are other drugs that would be a more acceptable risk for me to use instead.

Which is fine. I can make my own choice to use drugs or not. But I want to *know* what choice I'm making first. THAT's what I hate about drugs.

I don't quite know how you figure that drugs cause you to surrender your free will, if you take them of your own volition that it.

I think the idea is less that you surrender your free will, and more that you are potentially not in control of yourself any more, and could do things that, as a non-drugged person, you would never choose to do.

To an extent this is true, although in a much more subtle way.