NationStates Jolt Archive


Will whites be a minority in the US in the near future?

Sergio the First
31-08-2005, 19:28
Some statistics point out that in a not so far-away future, the white population will be a minority in the US. Do you think this will change much in American society and culture? Will whites require affirmative action? Will a latino or black be ellected for the Presidency? Will we have white youths venting their frustration for lack of job opportunities in the form of rap-like hyms (besides Eminem)?
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 19:29
Nah, you'll just classify Hispanics as whites. Much like Italians and Spaniards are now "white".
Sergio the First
31-08-2005, 19:31
Nah, you'll just classify Hispanics as whites. Much like Italians and Spaniards are now "white".
Hum, no WASP-hating going on,i hope
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 19:33
Hum, no WASP-hating going on,i hope No, I'm just citing examples from history. I'm fairly close to WASPs, being a WACC (don't ask).
The Street Parades
31-08-2005, 19:34
Nah, you'll just classify Hispanics as whites. Much like Italians and Spaniards are now "white".

I hope you noticed that Italians and Spainards are "white" (In fact, I don't like the word...)
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 19:35
I hope you noticed that Italians and Spainards are "white" (In fact, I don't like the word...) Yes, but they used to be Johnny Foreigners.
Economic Associates
31-08-2005, 19:35
being a WACC (don't ask).

By saying that you do know someone is going to have to ask you what that is now. Its like when someone tries to correct someone's grammar in a post they make a spelling mistake.
The Street Parades
31-08-2005, 19:37
Yes, but they used to be Johnny Foreigners.

All the "whites" are foreigners in America, please don't forget this fact!
Sergio the First
31-08-2005, 19:38
No, I'm just citing examples from history. I'm fairly close to WASPs, being a WACC (don't ask).
ok, spill it:what the hell is WACC?
The Street Parades
31-08-2005, 19:39
WACC: White, Anglo-Celtic, Catholic ;)
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 19:40
All the "whites" are foreigners in America, please don't forget this fact! Depends on your definition of foreigner… those who were born there aren't really foreigners. Spawn of usurpers, yes. :)
By saying that you do know someone is going to have to ask you what that is now. Its like when someone tries to correct someone's grammar in a post they make a spelling mistake. Fair enough. White Anglo-Celtic Catholic. ;)
QuentinTarantino
31-08-2005, 19:40
Some statistics point out that in a not so far-away future, the white population will be a minority in the US. Do you think this will change much in American society and culture? Will whites require affirmative action? Will a latino or black be ellected for the Presidency? Will we have white youths venting their frustration for lack of job opportunities in the form of rap-like hyms (besides Eminem)?

They'd be a rich well educated minority so I doubt they'd need that stuff.
Darksbania
31-08-2005, 19:41
We'll go from being a majority to being a plurality. Nothing will change.
Nationalsozialististis
31-08-2005, 19:42
people will be brown, not white in less then a hundred years.
The Street Parades
31-08-2005, 19:42
The Pilgrim Fathers weren't born in America, my dear... and the Italians who live in America now are the third or fourth generation there...
The Nazz
31-08-2005, 19:43
We'll go from being a majority to being a plurality. Nothing will change.
I hope some things change--I hope that racism becomes less prevalent and that groups that have been minorities and the social underclass are able to achieve economic and social parity for starters.
Sergio the First
31-08-2005, 19:44
But will ratial tensions build up?
Neo-Anarchists
31-08-2005, 19:47
It doesn't really matter a whole lot to me. I don't see why skin color is so important. I would hope that other people stop caring so much too.

EDIT:
But will ratial tensions build up?
Perhaps they will. But I would hope that in this case that everyone would remember the past and realize that it makes no sense to fight over race.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 19:48
The worst thing that'll happen is that everyone eventually goes the same hybrid colour. Which would be a shame… little variety.
Aylestone
31-08-2005, 19:49
All the "whites" are foreigners in America, please don't forget this fact!

All members of the race homo sapiens sapiens (notice the second sapiens, as there are also homo sapiens neanderthalis; but they are extinct now) are foreigners to the continent of North America, as they evolved in East Africa some 100,000 years ago. Hoist by your own petard.
Aylestone
31-08-2005, 19:50
It doesn't really matter a whole lot to me. I don't see why skin color is so important. I would hope that other people stop caring so much too.

EDIT:

Perhaps they will. But I would hope that in this case that everyone would remember their own past and realize that it makes no sense to fight over race.

Seconded.
Luporum
31-08-2005, 19:51
I think an episode of South Park summed this scenario up best...
Darksbania
31-08-2005, 19:52
I hope some things change--I hope that racism becomes less prevalent and that groups that have been minorities and the social underclass are able to achieve economic and social parity for starters.
Clarification: Nothing will change as a result of that shift.

Society always changes. Racism becoms less prevalent over time. Economic "inequality" is not necesarily a problem.
Lord Tater
31-08-2005, 19:53
I hope you noticed that Italians and Spainards are "white" (In fact, I don't like the word...)
"Some people argue that since Spain is in Europe and all indigenous Spaniards belong to the Caucasian race, they should not be included in the Hispanic category, being that in the United States, Hispanic is designated as a "minority group". However, others counter that Spain and the Hispanic American nations, despite their differences, are part of the same greater cultural sphere, and Spaniards may therefore face discrimination based on the assumption that they belong to a particularly discriminated Hispanic nationality." (from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics))
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 19:53
You think you have a problem with caucasions are what ever we are called dying out. You at least have a 2.1 birth rate...
Europe is going to dye out delux, i live in bosnia[balkens, the place with the civil war and lots of etchnik cleansing, we had Winter OL in 1984], we now have like a 1.4 birth rate...

Who the hell knows, maybe we should let the non caucasions have a good time, we have enjoyed our stay, might as well just die out know and have the other [races, even though they are not different races, but i lack a better word] have a go at ruling the world, bye that time i will be in my cold cold grave :D
The Street Parades
31-08-2005, 19:55
All members of the race homo sapiens sapiens (notice the second sapiens, as there are also homo sapiens neanderthalis; but they are extinct now) are foreigners to the continent of North America, as they evolved in East Africa some 100,000 years ago. Hoist by your own petard.

I did never ever tell there were any absolutely native americans...
Ashmoria
31-08-2005, 20:01
I hope you noticed that Italians and Spainards are "white" (In fact, I don't like the word...)
duh

but they didnt USED to be.

when they first came to the US in large numbers, southern europeans werent considered "white" they were "swarthy"

they were considered to be of a different race than good anglo-american "white" people

somewhere along the way they were "reclassified" as white

the same thing will happen to light skinned hispanics. hispanic isnt a race in any case so its silly to compare "white" to "hispanic"

the only way white people will become an minority in the US is if we get a massive influx of chinese and indian people.
Androis
31-08-2005, 20:01
I am also worried about an increasing immigrant population, but in my opwn country, the UK. In licoln, white people are now the minority and over 10% of our population are now black/immigrants. This is very demoralising and should be stopped. The sort of people who are allowed into the country at the moment are the sort of people who commited the awful atrosities of the London bombing last month. IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE STOPPED!!
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 20:06
I am also worried about an increasing immigrant population, but in my opwn country, the UK. In licoln, white people are now the minority and over 10% of our population are now black/immigrants. This is very demoralising and should be stopped. The sort of people who are allowed into the country at the moment are the sort of people who commited the awful atrosities of the London bombing last month. IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE STOPPED!! Bigotry like this is the reason we sent Jews back to Germany. How many of the bombers were Ugandan women who had been forced into prostitution, may I ask? (the case of the priest I know hiding the asylum seeker)
Musclebeast
31-08-2005, 20:06
Whites will be a Minority soon. So will this make Blacks or the Hispanics the MAN??? :confused:
Bolol
31-08-2005, 20:10
Is this what the Neo-Nazis have been bitchin' about all this time? The "White Race" losing control?

...Meh...

Who else is tired of lumping people into "races"?
Balericia
31-08-2005, 20:10
U know when the terror laws come thro u will be kicked out for preaching hate with any luck. Beside which edinburgh(capital of scotland) is now full with east european, mainly polish, and they are great, they are acctualy pleasent people, when u goto by something in the local Spar perhaps they are soo soo sooooo much friendlyer than the scots, they dont get drunk and pic fights, and they arent half as ugly. Sorry scotland i love u with all my hearts but lets face it we are an unfortunate lookin nation
Kaitonia
31-08-2005, 20:13
Excellent... Whites are almost the minority.

My Puertorican brethren's plot to take over the US is taking shape nicely! The time is nearly at hand!
Yogurt and Such
31-08-2005, 20:16
Some statistics point out that in a not so far-away future, the white population will be a minority in the US. Do you think this will change much in American society and culture? Will whites require affirmative action? Will a latino or black be ellected for the Presidency? Will we have white youths venting their frustration for lack of job opportunities in the form of rap-like hyms (besides Eminem)?


Affirmative Action isn't given to minorities, it's given to oppressed peoples. Jews are a minority, but weren't put in nearly as shitty a position as people of color, therefore no affirmative action. Whites, even as a minority, will not have been an oppressed people.

Hopefully a person of color will eventually hold the presidency, but there's only 1 Black senator, so how about more office holders of color, in general.

Just becoming a minority doesn't make you into a rapper.
Sinuhue
31-08-2005, 20:18
Some statistics point out that in a not so far-away future, the white population will be a minority in the US. Do you think this will change much in American society and culture? Will whites require affirmative action? Will a latino or black be ellected for the Presidency? Will we have white youths venting their frustration for lack of job opportunities in the form of rap-like hyms (besides Eminem)?
Minorities are not inherently underpriveleged, but most minorities have experienced institutionalised racism in their history in the US. Unless that happens to whites as well, they won't be coming up as an underclass in the future.
Sergio the First
31-08-2005, 20:19
Is this what the Neo-Nazis have been bitchin' about all this time? The "White Race" losing control?

...Meh...

Who else is tired of lumping people into "races"?
Dont see bias or ulterior motives where there are none.
You can discuss minority and larger social issues without espousing a agenda of bigotry.
No feras of labels here, thank you very much.
Neo-Anarchists
31-08-2005, 20:21
The sort of people who are allowed into the country at the moment are the sort of people who commited the awful atrosities of the London bombing last month. IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE STOPPED!!
Well, compare the number of bombings you have from immigrants to the total number of immigrants.
That's 1 bombing for all your immigrants so far, isn't it?

Or perhaps you could compare the number of terrorists that have entered Britain from elsewhere to the number of non-terrorists?
But seeing as you aren't ruled by terror gangs, I somehow think that that isn't a very high percent either.

No, the sort of people you are allowing in are mostly just like anybody else:
Looking to get ahead, trying to find a place where they can live peacefully, etc.
PsiOps
31-08-2005, 20:26
Whites will never truly be gone just like native americans arn't
I am WASP but my mothers family is inherintly Greek and they look it to
:mp5: <- just for the heck of it
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 20:38
I think an episode of South Park summed this scenario up best...

tell me the episode name and then i download it

*looks around for police that he fears will jail him for downloading thins*

do you mean that episode where lots of blacks who are rich move in to south park??
Kejott
31-08-2005, 20:39
I can't wait for the day when everyone is so mixed up that race won't matter anymore and they'll be just like me. I'm so racially mixed that if I were an ice cream your tounge would explode from oversaturation of flavors.
IRLCATLAND
31-08-2005, 20:39
White people have repressed other white people, look at the Irish. Watch Gangs of New York for a good example.
Lotus Puppy
31-08-2005, 20:41
Even if whites do become a minority, it will be a non-issue by that time. Race is loosing importance fast. I think the only people who still seriously care about race are a few ageing blacks that worked with Martin Luther King, like Jesse Jackson.
That being said, four states have whites as a minority: California, Hawaii, Texas, and Arizona. Two states, New York and Georgia, will have white minorities within a decade.
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 20:42
Whites will never truly be gone just like native americans arn't
I am WASP but my mothers family is inherintly Greek and they look it to
:mp5: <- just for the heck of it
what is WASP again??

and yeah so i wonder, in america, what do you mean by the term caucasian. Do you mean, semites, and aryan[europeens], or just europeens??

Anyways maybe we ought to stop before we get to nazi here :P
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 20:43
I can't wait for the day when everyone is so mixed up that race won't matter anymore and they'll be just like me. I'm so racially mixed that if I were an ice cream your tounge would explode from oversaturation of flavors.

what cind of mix are you??
I tought that if white and anyone else had kids the kid would always turn out not-white :confused:
Vlad von Volcist
31-08-2005, 20:45
I think within 25-35 years whites will become the minority and hispanics will make up 35-50% of the population. I think blacks will never become a majority. I personaly would rather live around my own race but as long as minorities don't turn my neighborhood into a shit hole then I don't care.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 20:45
what cind of mix are you??
I tought that if white and anyone else had kids the kid would always turn out not-white :confused: He's sort of black… not very dark skin.
Adlersburg-Niddaigle
31-08-2005, 20:47
Some statistics point out that in a not so far-away future, the white population will be a minority in the US. Do you think this will change much in American society and culture? Will whites require affirmative action? Will a latino or black be ellected for the Presidency? Will we have white youths venting their frustration for lack of job opportunities in the form of rap-like hyms (besides Eminem)?

Is there another country on the planet where skin pigmentation matters so much as in the USA?

American math:
a) a Euro-Am and an Afro-Am have a baby. What 'race' is it?
b) that child and a Euro-Am have a baby. What 'race' is it?
c) and that child and a Euro-Am have a baby. What 'race' is it?
d) etc. unto the generations!

The correct answer is human race and that should be the end of it, but for history and the penchant of the government to want to pigeon-hole people based on their color and ethnic origin.

The issue that one should be discussing here is whether those future people will have a national health care system, decent educational and job chances, and a halfway decent life (free of crime, of pollution, of 'patriot act', etc.
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 20:48
I think within 25-35 years whites will become the minority and hispanics will make up 35-50% of the population. I think blacks will never become a majority. I personaly would rather live around my own race but as long as minorities don't turn my neighborhood into a shit hole then I don't care.

and you are white??
well, like i saidm the reason we are dying out is couse we dibt give enough birth
Vlad von Volcist
31-08-2005, 20:51
Yes I am a PROUD WHITE ITALIAN.
Neo-Anarchists
31-08-2005, 20:51
the reason we are dying out is couse we dibt give enough birth
Ooh, that reminds me of something CM/DA/VE once said...
I giggle in remembrance. Perhaps I can find it, it would be quite appropriate for this thread.
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 20:51
He's sort of black… not very dark skin.
maybe giving us whites[caucasions] power is gods way of evening things out since we get sun burned so easly :p
Vlad von Volcist
31-08-2005, 20:52
That is true whites aren't having enough kids. The damn hispanics and blacks have kids when they are fucking 16.
Kejott
31-08-2005, 20:53
what cind of mix are you??
I tought that if white and anyone else had kids the kid would always turn out not-white :confused:

I am Cherokee, Chikasaw, Choctaw, French, Italian, British, Jewish, Chinese (I recently found out I am of Chinese ancestry! I had no clue!) and African American (I say this because it is quite impossible to track my origins in Africa due to slavery and lack of record keeping during this period). I am caramel skinned, but I have not ceased to be white, just as I have not ceased to be black. I'm all these things and I celebrate all my backgrounds as if they were my own, because they are.
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 20:55
Yes I am a PROUD WHITE ITALIAN.
I was mistaken for italian once couse i have dark.brown, hair and brown eyes. Am bosnian bye the way, but i live in norway so here i am darker the the other whites couse they are all blond[with few eceptions]
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 20:55
That is true whites aren't having enough kids. The damn hispanics and blacks have kids when they are fucking 16. The chavs of England would like to differ, they're pasty buggers and they have kids at 14 or so.
Fresh2death
31-08-2005, 20:55
No, whites will never be a minority. However i do believe that someone black will eventually run for president, but the odds of him winning are slim
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 20:57
Ooh, that reminds me of something CM/DA/VE once said...
I giggle in remembrance. Perhaps I can find it, it would be quite appropriate for this thread.

wtf is that
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 20:59
I am Cherokee, Chikasaw, Choctaw, French, Italian, British, Jewish, Chinese (I recently found out I am of Chinese ancestry! I had no clue!) and African American (I say this because it is quite impossible to track my origins in Africa due to slavery and lack of record keeping during this period). I am caramel skinned, but I have not ceased to be white, just as I have not ceased to be black. I'm all these things and I celebrate all my backgrounds as if they were my own, because they are.

first i would like to say, cool, second, was this planned :P

well i hate all races the same, they all screwed me over my own the whites, then all the others, but true blacks have not been so evil to me, well not so far
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 21:00
The chavs of England would like to differ, they're pasty buggers and they have kids at 14 or so.

Slum in Manchester, like from a Dickens novel..
*Beggens sir, sir has a penny to spear please si please*
Kejott
31-08-2005, 21:01
first i would like to say, cool, second, was this planned :P

well i hate all races the same, they all screwed me over my own the whites, then all the others, but true blacks have not been so evil to me, well not so far

lol, nope not planned at all, but I think it's a privilage to be all these things. It's quite fun not fitting into a specific group and being able to check "other" on tests and surveys.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 21:03
Slum in Manchester, like from a Dickens novel..
*Beggens sir, sir has a penny to spear please si please* "Y'know what oi mean like, i's just loik innit, innit, you fookin' coont, you startin' on me? You startin' on me?"

More like that. Verminous filth.
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 21:06
lol, nope not planned at all, but I think it's a privilage to be all these things. It's quite fun not fitting into a specific group and being able to check "other" on tests and surveys.
But no one anwered what i asked, what types of "races" to you count in the US, couse i always wondered wht the deal with caucasions was, in the us bye that theymean white like europeen, but technikly arabs and other middle eastern groups are also causcasion??
Not that i mind, but i wonder
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 21:06
"Y'know what oi mean like, i's just loik innit, innit, you fookin' coont, you startin' on me? You startin' on me?"

More like that. Verminous filth.


:D :D :D lol
Kejott
31-08-2005, 21:08
But no one anwered what i asked, what types of "races" to you count in the US, couse i always wondered wht the deal with caucasions was, in the us bye that theymean white like europeen, but technikly arabs and other middle eastern groups are also causcasion??
Not that i mind, but i wonder

Well usually here in the US we don't break stuff down like that. If you're light skinned you are white, if you're dark skinned you are either black, latino, or middle eastern. That's IT. Sad, but that's how it is when people file police reports and stuff.
Arkanaland
31-08-2005, 21:09
That is true whites aren't having enough kids. The damn hispanics and blacks have kids when they are fucking 16.

Apperantly you've never been to Seminole, OKlahoma there, Chap.
All the 16 year olds here are pregnant, well, most of them. And the majority is most deffinately white.

Maybe I should give the "white minority" issue a push over the edge and make my black girlfriend preggo. She's 16.

Nah, I won't stick to yoru stereotype...this honkey'll keep it in his pants 'till she's 17.
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 21:13
well, but whites will die out anyhows,,
That will be my new line when i meat girls

"hey, we need more aryan kids or we gonna die out, lest have sex"
*myballsarehuge gets slapped in the face and kicked in the groin bye an attractiv woman*

come on whites, instad of starting threads
start sex
:fluffle:

now i regret i dumpet my girlfriend :(
well i always have the vacume cleaner
Cheese penguins
31-08-2005, 21:14
in the last year i can report that there where twelve pregnancies at my school, all people under 14. :(
Looting Pirates
31-08-2005, 21:16
We will soon reach the minority-majority line, in which all the minorities put together will out number whites. But whites will still be the largest "ethnic" group for a long time.

I don't think whites will just group in all the white Hispanics. They don't like us.
Arkanaland
31-08-2005, 21:17
in the last year i can report that there where twelve pregnancies at my school, all people under 14. :(

Dang, son...what kind of sex-ed program do they have there?

Abstinence or another?

I swear it, kids are starting younger and younger every day...of course, I can't say anything. One night with a goat changes a boy into a man.
Myballsarehuge
31-08-2005, 21:17
We will soon reach the minority-majority line, in which all the minorities put together will out number whites. But whites will still be the largest "ethnic" group for a long time.

I don't think whites will just group in all the white Hispanics. They don't like us.

no we don`t :D
Diaga Ceilteach Impire
31-08-2005, 21:20
Excellent... Whites are almost the minority.

My Puertorican brethren's plot to take over the US is taking shape nicely! The time is nearly at hand!

:eek: HE TOOK MY JOB!!!
EnrobsoNore
31-08-2005, 21:21
Here in Florida whites are already a major minority where english is more or less a second lanquage.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 21:45
Dang, son...what kind of sex-ed program do they have there?

Abstinence or another?

I swear it, kids are starting younger and younger every day...of course, I can't say anything. One night with a goat changes a boy into a man. In Britain they have contraception programmes and so many kids get pregnant and catch diseases… not that the diseases bother me… let them die…
I can only conclude that some kind of stupidity has entered the British country and must be purged.