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If Bush rewrote The Bible would you accept it?

Kejott
31-08-2005, 13:03
Let's say that Bush came out and said "I believe God spoke to me. He told me that modern Christianity isn't as accurate as it could be, so he compelled me to rewrite The Bible as it was meant to be." Would you intergrate this new bible into your life and follow its guidelines? Or would you think it's a crock of crap?
BackwoodsSquatches
31-08-2005, 13:05
This isnt quite so hypothetical....the man believes God wants him to be President.
Bryce Crusader States
31-08-2005, 13:05
Just like any loser who tries to rewrite the Bible or add to it. I would not accept it. The Standard I use would be the Protestant Bible.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 13:07
Would I accept it? Erm, no… no, certainly not… especially as he's a PROTESTANT! ;)
Swilatia
31-08-2005, 13:10
I would not accept the bible either way. I am an Atheist.
Mekonia
31-08-2005, 13:10
Why are you even asking? The man has already said that he hears voices in his head. Is this even an issue? Bush a prophet? And I'm Hillary Clinton :D
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 13:13
Why are you even asking? The man has already said that he hears voices in his head. Is this even an issue? Bush a prophet? And I'm Hillary Clinton :D I heard a voice last night. No, seriously, I was in the bathroom at about 2 in the morning (today then), and I heard very clearly what sounded like a screaming laugh outside the door, not sounding like anyone in the house. Nobody there.
So I'm a prophet.
Cabra West
31-08-2005, 13:14
I guess that would result in yet another Christian Sect... the Bushists? The Dubbyahnites? Who knows?

And no, I wouldn't accept it. In fact, I don't accept parts of the bible as it is because I have serious doubts about their consistency with the rest of it. And I am religious...
Quippoth
31-08-2005, 13:16
Let's say that Bush came out and said "I believe God spoke to me. He told me that modern Christianity isn't as accurate as it could be, so he compelled me to rewrite The Bible as it was meant to be." Would you intergrate this new bible into your life and follow its guidelines? Or would you think it's a crock of crap?

These are human beings your talking about.

If he rewrote it to say for example...

"Homosexuality isn't evil, its simply another form of Gods divine plan."
"Life begins once a baby can think"
"Tolerance, non-violence, and alms are the most important aspects of christiantiy"
You can be the left would be leaping all over the bible taking it as gospel.

Had it been reverse the (well as it is now) the right would be jumping all over it as gospel. People take what they want to hear and if they don't like it they pass it off as invalid for whatever reasons they can come up with.
Swilatia
31-08-2005, 13:16
I heard a voice last night. No, seriously, I was in the bathroom at about 2 in the morning (today then), and I heard very clearly what sounded like a screaming laugh outside the door, not sounding like anyone in the house. Nobody there.
So I'm a prophet.
Maybe the person ran away when you were going to see if anyone was there. That was probably more of a prank then proof thatthere is a god, as there is no such thing as god or a prophet.
Einsteinian Big-Heads
31-08-2005, 13:17
Now this is just silly. :rolleyes:
Kejott
31-08-2005, 13:22
hmm, no yes's yet? I'm just waiting for someone to say yes.
Tropical Montana
31-08-2005, 13:23
I would hope that the Christian Fundamentalists would lynch him for blasphemy.

Now wouldn't THAT be justice?
Freeunitedstates
31-08-2005, 13:28
There is only one authority that I listen to when it comes to new Bibles. They have scholars translate and retranslate manuscripts to get the most accurate depiction of the whole text. I am of course talking about the New American Bible, promugated by His Holiness who entered Eternal Life, John Paul II. Though, I don't think I would use one Promugated by Pope Benedict.
Bravo Echo Six Niner
31-08-2005, 13:30
he wouldn't so why talk about it????
Einsteinian Big-Heads
31-08-2005, 13:32
There is only one authority that I listen to when it comes to new Bibles. They have scholars translate and retranslate manuscripts to get the most accurate depiction of the whole text. I am of course talking about the New American Bible, promugated by His Holiness who entered Eternal Life, John Paul II. Though, I don't think I would use one Promugated by Pope Benedict.

But they chose the JB for the lectionary readings, and the JB is just as good a translation as the NAB.
Kejott
31-08-2005, 13:32
he wouldn't so why talk about it????

These days you never know...
Smunkeeville
31-08-2005, 13:32
I would hope that the Christian Fundamentalists would lynch him for blasphemy.

Now wouldn't THAT be justice?
sure. but we aren't really allowed to do that "Thou shall not kill" and all but if we did I assure you he wouldn't be first in line. I doubt he would be last either. Rewriting the Bible is a serious No-no but people have done it before and all we did was label them cults.
btw most Christain Fundamentalists are afraid to accept a new translation of the Bible, even when they were translated from the original texts, I doubt any of them would accept anyone rewriting it.
Balipo
31-08-2005, 13:33
Let's say that Bush came out and said "I believe God spoke to me. He told me that modern Christianity isn't as accurate as it could be, so he compelled me to rewrite The Bible as it was meant to be." Would you intergrate this new bible into your life and follow its guidelines? Or would you think it's a crock of crap?

I am not religious but...

I suppose no one would follow the bible if GWB wrote it. All the crayon cross-outs and doodled pictures of horses and stuff would make it very difficult to read/follow.
Einsteinian Big-Heads
31-08-2005, 13:36
I suppose no one would follow the bible if GWB wrote it. All the crayon cross-outs and doodled pictures of horses and stuff would make it very difficult to read/follow.

Can't be harder than the real thing, illustrations might do it good!
Easy Listening Hits
31-08-2005, 13:39
Surely the bloody things been re-written and misinterpreted enough for 2000 odd years?
SirDouglas
31-08-2005, 13:40
George W. Bush can write?

He isnt smart enough to do anything else!!!
Monkeypimp
31-08-2005, 13:42
Bush is a big minus
The bible is a big minus


Bush x bible = Positive..?
SirDouglas
31-08-2005, 13:47
With all the non believers here it sure looks like hell will be a crowded place.

What a shame.
Tropical Montana
31-08-2005, 13:47
I am not religious but...

I suppose no one would follow the bible if GWB wrote it. All the crayon cross-outs and doodled pictures of horses and stuff would make it very difficult to read/follow.

*dying laughing*

good one!
Swilatia
31-08-2005, 13:49
Bush is a big minus
The bible is a big minus


Bush x bible = Positive..?
Not Exactly, 2 negatives do not always make a positive.
It would be more like:
Bush is a big minus
The Bible is a big minus

Bush+Bible = an even bigger minus
Cabra West
31-08-2005, 13:49
With all the non believers here it sure looks like hell will be a crowded place.

What a shame.

You know, my grandfather used to say "Heaven? Now, what would I do in heaven? No, just send me to hell, that's where the pretty girls are"
Easy Listening Hits
31-08-2005, 13:51
With all the non believers here it sure looks like hell will be a crowded place.

What a shame.

If we are to take the bible literally anyway, then surely were all most likely gonna burn :headbang:
Swilatia
31-08-2005, 13:53
With all the non believers here it sure looks like hell will be a crowded place.

What a shame.
Heaven? Hell? I know that neither of those places exist. There is no afterlife.
Demented Hamsters
31-08-2005, 13:54
Just like any loser who tries to rewrite the Bible or add to it. I would not accept it. The Standard I use would be the Protestant Bible.
The Protestant Bible? That wouldn't be the one re-written by Martin Luther a few centuries ago, now would it?

I'd follow Bush's bible if it had cool things like flamethrowers and girls in bikinis. Or girls in bikinis with flamethrowers!!


Of course if Bush did proclaim himself the new messiah, would that mean all Christians would now have to take coke, drink and not show up for work? Would they then have to hang a pretzel round their neck instead of a cross? Maybe Bush did in fact die eating that pretzel only to come back to life a few minutes later...
Kamsaki
31-08-2005, 13:55
Let's say that Bush came out and said "I believe God spoke to me. He told me that modern Christianity isn't as accurate as it could be, so he compelled me to rewrite The Bible as it was meant to be." Would you intergrate this new bible into your life and follow its guidelines? Or would you think it's a crock of crap?It's not a matter of the book; it's the matter of the church's political response. If the Organisation were to look at Bush, say "Okay, your changes are fine with us" and let him do whatever he liked, you'd find a sudden mass exodus from whatever faith let him do that.

If the Church became complacent enough to allow political figures to change its teachings, it would lose any credibility it might have had. Its aggressive evangelising would be seen as political indoctrination, and would therefore earn a position as an entirely justified target of much hostility.
Demented Hamsters
31-08-2005, 14:01
With all the non believers here it sure looks like hell will be a crowded place.

What a shame.
"I'd have Heaven for the climate and Hell for the company"
Cromotar
31-08-2005, 14:04
This raises an interesting issue: The Bible was originally written by people that Christians claim were inspired by God. However, if anyone *today* would be inspired in such a way they would be deemed insane. How do we know that there haven't been lots of "prophets" that have simply been ignored? Indeed, who would have the say-so to change the teachings of the power conglomerate of the church?
Ifreann
31-08-2005, 14:07
If George Bush tried to re-write the bible it would get turned into a source of satire,within hours there would be flash movies of god talking to him and things like that.now i kinda hope he does,just for that.
Randomlittleisland
31-08-2005, 14:10
I guess that would result in yet another Christian Sect... the Bushists? The Dubbyahnites? Who knows?

And no, I wouldn't accept it. In fact, I don't accept parts of the bible as it is because I have serious doubts about their consistency with the rest of it. And I am religious...

'Reverend Dubya of the Church of the latter day Morons'?

Anyone else here read Private Eye?
Balipo
31-08-2005, 14:12
Bush is a big minus
The bible is a big minus


Bush x bible = Positive..?

That is not how mathematics work.

Although the positive maybe that everyone says, "Well if can re-write the bible, it couldn't have been very good in the first place. I forfeit my religion."
Randomlittleisland
31-08-2005, 14:13
I am not religious but...

I suppose no one would follow the bible if GWB wrote it. All the crayon cross-outs and doodled pictures of horses and stuff would make it very difficult to read/follow.

LOL! The plot in the Bible's pretty poor anyway: they only bring the main character in halfway through and he dies straight away.
Kamsaki
31-08-2005, 14:13
'Reverend Dubya of the Church of the latter day Morons'?

Anyone else here read Private Eye?Hehe... The St Albion Parish News is fun... ^^
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 14:16
Maybe the person ran away when you were going to see if anyone was there. That was probably more of a prank then proof thatthere is a god, as there is no such thing as god or a prophet. I don't think God makes some sort of weird screamy laugh noise outside the bathroom door, and it can't have been anyone in my house. Conclusion: I'm going mad. Madder.

And there are such things as prophets… George Bush is the living proof!
Swilatia
31-08-2005, 14:20
I don't think God makes some sort of weird screamy laugh noise outside the bathroom door, and it can't have been anyone in my house. Conclusion: I'm going mad. Madder.

And there are such things as prophets… George Bush is the living proof!
George Bush is not living proof that prophets exist. He is just a moron who became the President of America becase he stole the election.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 14:24
George Bush is not living proof that prophets exist. He is just a moron who became the President of America becase he stole the election. I know that (P. Sellers voice). Maybe he's living proof that the prophecies are fulfilling themselves!
Charlen
31-08-2005, 14:32
Hell no would I accept a bible re-written by Bush. There are just too many things wrong with that to list.
Swilatia
31-08-2005, 14:37
I know that (P. Sellers voice). Maybe he's living proof that the prophecies are fulfilling themselves!
All prophecy is fake.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 14:40
All prophecy is fake. You can't prove most negatives. You can only prove that when the prophecy is fulfilled, if something doesn't happen when it's specifically supposed to, or if the world ends without the prophecy being fulfilled.
Bersabia
31-08-2005, 14:45
I heard a voice last night. No, seriously, I was in the bathroom at about 2 in the morning (today then), and I heard very clearly what sounded like a screaming laugh outside the door, not sounding like anyone in the house. Nobody there.
So I'm a prophet



maybe you house is haunted
Bersabia
31-08-2005, 14:48
I heard a voice last night. No, seriously, I was in the bathroom at about 2 in the morning (today then), and I heard very clearly what sounded like a screaming laugh outside the door, not sounding like anyone in the house. Nobody there.
So I'm a prophet.


forgot to quote but like i said maybe you r house is haunted
Dark Shadowy Nexus
31-08-2005, 15:44
Accurrate already is at 22%

See See

There is lots and lots of believers out there.

Who else other than a Pat Robertson worshipping Fundie would suggest that the Bible is accurate

On the other hand. Maybe the answers are a little fixed.
Kejott
31-08-2005, 16:06
:p Who the hell voted yes? What the fuck?
Colodia
31-08-2005, 16:07
Let's say that Bush came out and said "I believe God spoke to me. He told me that modern Christianity isn't as accurate as it could be, so he compelled me to rewrite The Bible as it was meant to be." Would you intergrate this new bible into your life and follow its guidelines? Or would you think it's a crock of crap?
It's crap. Bush is most certainly NOT a prophet, nor will we be getting any more.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 16:09
It's crap. Bush is most certainly NOT a prophet, nor will we be getting any more. At least Moses had literary skills, something which is sort of necessary to be a prophet. Mohammed was given the ability to read… so we'll know when Bush is a prophet. ;)
Kejott
31-08-2005, 16:10
Nobody is answering me! Who the HELLLLLLLL voted yes?!?! :confused:
LaVeya
31-08-2005, 16:12
At least Moses had literary skills, something which is sort of necessary to be a prophet. Mohammed was given the ability to read… so we'll know when Bush is a prophet. ;)
well, actually, that kinda rules bush out. big time. the guy thinks Africa is a country for God's sake.
Grave_n_idle
31-08-2005, 16:13
Let's say that Bush came out and said "I believe God spoke to me. He told me that modern Christianity isn't as accurate as it could be, so he compelled me to rewrite The Bible as it was meant to be." Would you intergrate this new bible into your life and follow its guidelines? Or would you think it's a crock of crap?

I suspect that the average American would be dubious if Bush wrote his name.

I know I'd be looking for some kind of corroborative evidence....
Caveat Emptoria
31-08-2005, 16:15
As a Pagan I reject all Big Books With All the Answers but it would be a scary indication of someone having way too much influence on Christianity if he could get away with it. But since the Bible (like all BBWAAs) is so riddled with contardictions you can pretty much get any conclusion you want out of it he doesn't need to rewrite it, just read it selectively like most Christians do.
Kejott
31-08-2005, 16:17
Ok. Dudes and dudettes, who voted yes? Seriously? Playtime is over people! I want to know who was crazy enough to vote yes.
Caveat Emptoria
31-08-2005, 16:20
If the Church became complacent enough to allow political figures to change its teachings, it would lose any credibility it might have had. Its aggressive evangelising would be seen as political indoctrination, and would therefore earn a position as an entirely justified target of much hostility.[/QUOTE]

You mean, political figures like King James? You also speak of the CHurch as if there one united and universally acknowledged Christian Church. Which there isn't.
Laerod
31-08-2005, 16:24
Ok. Dudes and dudettes, who voted yes? Seriously? Playtime is over people! I want to know who was crazy enough to vote yes.Maybe you should have made it public? :p
Dragons Bay
31-08-2005, 16:24
The Bible isn't written by one man. It was written by many people and they have been revised by groups of people under God's watchful eye. Let Bush rewrite the Bible. Let's see how he fares with God when Judgement Day arrives.
Katganistan
31-08-2005, 16:48
Absolutely not. I don't think God talks to him at all, and if he's talking to God, God is not answering.
Mt-Tau
31-08-2005, 16:48
I don't beleave the bible as it is, why would having GW reword it make a difference?
Grave_n_idle
31-08-2005, 16:54
I don't beleave the bible as it is, why would having GW reword it make a difference?

I don't know... Genesis 1:1 "In the... thing... there was. Um. Beginning. In... he created. Guard, that is, he was... The earth and. he created the. In the begin... heavens".

Might be worth a read, no?
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 16:58
I don't know... Genesis 1:1 "In the... thing... there was. Um. Beginning. In... he created. God, that is, he was... The earth and. he created the. In the begin... heavens".

Might be worth a read, no? You're forgetting that in place of God would be "Guard". The Almighty Guard, as Bush says.
UpwardThrust
31-08-2005, 17:14
Just like any loser who tries to rewrite the Bible or add to it. I would not accept it. The Standard I use would be the Protestant Bible.
Lol then you ARE reading a “rewritten” bible in a sense
UpwardThrust
31-08-2005, 17:16
The Bible isn't written by one man. It was written by many people and they have been revised by groups of people under God's watchful eye. Let Bush rewrite the Bible. Let's see how he fares with God when Judgement Day arrives.
And why is a group under the supposed watch of gods eye better then a single man supposedly under the watch of the same god ?
Dragons Bay
31-08-2005, 17:22
And why is a group under the supposed watch of gods eye better then a single man supposedly under the watch of the same god ?

Ha. It's like (supposing). One scientist does a study on cigarettes and finds that cigarettes are harmful to the body. But a bunch of scientists come up with an opposite conclusion. Although what the one scientist says is true, people tend to believe in the bunch who is wrong.
Grave_n_idle
31-08-2005, 17:37
Lol then you ARE reading a “rewritten” bible in a sense
Indeed, my friend... if you are NOT reading the scripture in it's native language, the BEST you can ever do, is to read a 'rewritten' version.
Dark Shadowy Nexus
31-08-2005, 17:38
I voted yes as a joke :)
Laerod
31-08-2005, 17:40
I voted yes as a joke :)That's one. Now we have to find the other two... :D
The Edd
31-08-2005, 17:42
I'd have to read it and see what exactly he's changed and how it's been re-written. If all still seems to be kosher, then I still wouldn't use it; got too many notes and highted bits in my NLT to just move over to another one.

Anyone trying to write another translation of the Bible should be taking it from the original Greek and Aramaic and whatever else the earlies scripts are in. Not good form to copy from what already is a copy, could end up going like the game Chinese Whispers.
Swilatia
31-08-2005, 17:48
You can't prove most negatives. You can only prove that when the prophecy is fulfilled, if something doesn't happen when it's specifically supposed to, or if the world ends without the prophecy being fulfilled.
The world will never end. Also, if you want a good proof that prophecy is fake, go take a look at the prophecies of Nostradumba**. Those are definatly fake.
Gymoor II The Return
31-08-2005, 17:53
The world will never end. Also, if you want a good proof that prophecy is fake, go take a look at the prophecies of Nostradumba**. Those are definatly fake.

The world will end some day, most likely when our sun turns into a red giant. People will be long gone by then...even if we haven't killed ourselves, after 5 billion years, I find it hard to believe that people will still be people.
Tecatlipoca
31-08-2005, 18:16
Nostradomus was rather smart. He gave the prophecy with such little amount of detail you could relate it to any happening in any era. Smart man. If Bush rewrote the bible? Well...I dunno, last pop-up book I looked at was only rather mediocre. And for the one whom typed up that all the non-believers are going to hell..how do you know *your* religion is even true compared to the other billion out there? Besides, if you're athiest then you can do the whole deathbed scene where you regret all your sins and maybe cry a little before god. Free pass into heaven. :cool:
Iexela
31-08-2005, 18:27
There have been no true Ecumenical Councils since before the Great Schism, when the canon of the Scriptures was codified by the Holy Fathers of the Church. In this hypothetical scenario Bush would in fact invoke the wrath of God if he added to or subtracted from the Gospel of Christ while professing to take it literally.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 18:31
The world will never end. Also, if you want a good proof that prophecy is fake, go take a look at the prophecies of Nostradumba**. Those are definatly fake. The world may well end with the big crunch or the infinite expansion.
If you want proof that ideologies are fake, go take a look at fascism. :rolleyes:
UpwardThrust
31-08-2005, 18:47
Ha. It's like (supposing). One scientist does a study on cigarettes and finds that cigarettes are harmful to the body. But a bunch of scientists come up with an opposite conclusion. Although what the one scientist says is true, people tend to believe in the bunch who is wrong.
The problem is it is hard to verify that god did indeed talk/inspire you

Unlike multiple scientists being able to see the empirical evidence first hand to attempts to validate the theory
UpwardThrust
31-08-2005, 18:48
Indeed, my friend... if you are NOT reading the scripture in it's native language, the BEST you can ever do, is to read a 'rewritten' version.
Hehehe yup you got my drift with that one :p
Kejott
31-08-2005, 22:05
We still need to find the other two. Hmm, wonder who they are... :confused: