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A model for beauty (simplified, rough draft)

The Mycon
31-08-2005, 05:53
A great many people ask, "what the hell is the use for multivariate calculus?" Until recently, I had no proper answer for this. But I have recently driven a U-haul from downtown LA to some bumblefuck town in Ohio, and had a lot of time to think. And I have learned that with a divariate modelling, beauty can be made into an objective quality.

First, a few terms-
1. millihellens- the amount of beauty necessary to launch a single ship.
2. cute- a unitless variable on the scary(-10)-adorable(10) continuum.*
3. hot- a unitless variable on the disgusting(-10)-deadsexy(10) continuum.*

How do these relate? Cute & hot should be multiplied by a constant (of unit "millihelens") based on how important these are to beauty. "But, The Mycon, the point was to make beauty an objective quantity. Each person values them differently." That requires much research into how individuals act as & how to interpret it as masses. That's a job for an actuary. But, their work is clearly defined.

The -10 to 10 continuum seems limiting, especially when it seems so romantic to think that someone might theoretically exceed one helen. Yes, it is. The important part is the existence of negative values- this implies that some people *coughyesimeanyoudarlingcough* could be used as a costal defense system.

Other issues are to come. This is a rough draft, meant to display the usefulness to higher mathematics, and I don't think it's worth that much time right now. If you have any issue, I'd appreciate if you brought it up. Also, all the work was made worthwhile just for the unit millihelens. It's really damn fun to say.


*Ideally, these variables** would be completely independant of eachother. These are as close as you can get while working with only three dimensions. This is simplified from the final version, as a four or five variable function would be difficult to explain.
**For this model to work, these must be objective qualities also, based on other variables (making them multivariate functions in themselves). For instance, "hot" should be based (for men, in part) on muscle tone, body hair, and height, with idealized maxima, such that when one is above or below the critical points for those sub-variables, the "hot" value falls. "Cute" can be based (in part) on shape of the face, hair, & skin tone.
Holy Sheep
31-08-2005, 05:58
Shouldn't it be miliHelen?

If you pull this off, you kick butt.

Some
Neaness
31-08-2005, 06:02
If cute and hot have specific criteria, what about the people who are undeniably cute/hot but do NOT meet the criteria? What about units beyond cute/hot (beautiful, for example?) And what is the scale for unnattractiveness?
The Mycon
31-08-2005, 06:29
These were discussed in the original literature

f cute and hot have specific criteria, what about the people who are undeniably cute/hot but do NOT meet the criteria?
should be based (for men, in part)In other words, additions are appreciated. This is far from complete.*

What about units beyond cute/hot (beautiful, for example?)1. millihellens- the amount of beauty necessary to launch a single ship.
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Cute & hot should be multiplied by a constant (of unit "millihelens") based on how important these are to beauty. The dependant variable is beauty, and the baser variables are used in determining cute/hot. See the **'d section and remember that it's an example, not a full model.

And what is the scale for unnattractiveness?

The -10 to 10 continuum seems limiting, especially when it seems so romantic to think that someone might theoretically exceed one helen. Yes, it is. The important part is the existence of negative values- this implies that some people *coughyesimeanyoudarlingcough* could be used as a costal defense system. In other words, I recognize the only guy I really ever gave two shits about is charming and nice, & once I calm down to stop chasing tail I'd like to be with someone exactly like him; but he's still butt-ugly, and therefore gets a -5 cute and +1 hot (his smile scares me).

*The cute-hot started at the office, when I was trying to come onto some kid too stoned to notice. I explained that he was cute, not hot. Hot is "Want to have sex with consistently." Cute is "want to play with every now and then, but require too much maintainence to use consistenly. You mostly keep them around to look at & (more importantly) show off, and put in far more work than it's worth."

He replied, "So I'm a tasteful Art-deco clock?"
The Downmarching Void
31-08-2005, 07:43
As an Artist and one who is able to both portray and create beuaty, part of me is offended by the very notion of quantifying physical beauty with a mathematical formula. As someone with a sense of humour and an appreciation (though very limited understanding of) mathematics, I LOVE this concept and wish you much success with it.

What about the cultural variables that influence the very concept of what is beautiful? More work for the actuaries?
The Mycon
31-08-2005, 19:00
What about the cultural variables that influence the very concept of what is beautiful? More work for the actuaries?I hadn't thought of that. Since a nation's naval power seems independant of its prosperity, but yacht ownership among the rich seems entirely a function of geography, though many people might consider stealing a boat or would be willing to, regardless of having the means...

Damnit. I don't know. This is why I need peer review before I have to drive my sister back to Los Angeles, where the people are batshit enough to get this published.


By the way, Holy Sheep, you are entirely correct.
FourX
31-08-2005, 19:43
You're forgetting an important variable.

Alcohol.

I propose that the value in millihelens should be multiplied by (1+units of aclohol drunk/5) (as an approximation - it should be modified for body weight when far from the mean mass of a human) in order to assess Beauty from the "eye of the beholder" perspective.
Liskeinland
31-08-2005, 20:14
Beauty? Liv Tyler with a smaller upper lip.
Causa finita. :)