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Where's the U.N. now?


With more than a million and a half people left homeless victims of a tragic storm in the good ol’ US of A, why hasn’t the UN come to help us out?

By now, we’ve all seen the footage on the news: devastated family members clinging to one another on a New Orleans rooftop, the high-rise buildings toppled like dominoes, and looters raiding grocery stores for supplies following Hurricane Katrina.

Now, with 9 feet of water rising above the broken levees and into the streets, the police, National Guard, and the Coast Guard have risen to the call of duty and headed to the disaster area to rescue people who would otherwise die, attempt to deliver supplies and medical care to stranded people, and maintain some sense of order in a city currently overtaken by anarchy and mass destruction.

It’s a question that probably doesn’t come to mind for most people. But I’m not most people. So it was one of the first ones I came up with.

Where’s the UN now that it’s America with the disaster?

When there was a tsunami in December of 2005, people came together to help out the victims. Even the UN, which is usually plagued by hopelessness, incompetency, inefficiency, and a number of other problems, was able to act quickly to bring humanitarian aid to the peoples of the affected islands (with the help of America, of course). This was honourable.

But now that Mothership America is having the natural disaster, the UN hasn’t even taken their most common action, which is to hold a press conference and issue a statement/memorandum to the public.

Why?

Because they don’t like us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even though the UN’s purpose is to stop genocides, keep the peace, and come to the rescue during disasters like this, the UN hasn’t done anything about Hurricane Katrina yet. It is absolutely disgusting that the organisation has ignored this tragedy, which has already caused much loss of life and will likely bring more in the days ahead with the onset of disease, infection, and flaring tempers.

There has never been better proof that the UN is anti-American than this.

If there’s still someone out there convinced that the UN is capable of being an effective world body after reading this blog entry, it’s probably too late to help them.

But, to the others who think like me, and to those willing to try, I say that there has never been a better time to withdraw our diplomats and funding from the UN.

We pay 22% of the UN’s regular budget, most of which ends up going nowhere but down the drain anyway. If they can’t come up with a little help, or even SYMPATHY, for our nation during this tragedy, screw ‘em.

--Hannah

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This was my blog post earlier. What do y'allz think?

Great Gogily Mogily.

Not another UN sucks thread.

The shrub would have to ask for the UN's help.

They don't magically appear.

The UN's annual budget is the same as that of NYPD.

I think this tells you where the UN stands with regards to making a difference. It's a drop in the ocean, more usefully employed somewhere like Africa.

You mean more usefully employed by getting our money back right?

How about because America is one of the richest coutnries on the face of the Earth and the UN's already overstretched budget can be better spent on nation's who can't afford to feed themselves...?

You mean more usefully employed by getting our money back right?
Well, America's funding to the UN is around 1% of what it spends on its own military. How about your military has a go first, before you request help from the blue-helmets of Nigeria and Bangladesh? :rolleyes:

So, fuck the world, we don't need them, go USA ...

... until we're in a bit of a jam, in which case, we were just kidding.

It took a day or two for people to react to the Asian tsunami, and it was a much, much bigger disaster. Give it a day or two, and the UN will (hopefully) be doing something.


As much as I think it does stupid things, it does do alot of good for the world

If the US requires and requests assistence from the UN, they might be happy to help. Niether has happened yet.

Let me get this straight.

The US ignores the UN. Blantantly disregards its wishes. There has been talk here of telling the UN to shove it all the time.

We basically laughed in its face.

And you want them to help us NOW?

God, you're so idiotic. You don't listen to the UN or follow its laws, but once a single disaster comes, it's "help us, UN, help us!"

Sicko neocons and their lack of responsibility. It's our mess now, we have to clean it up alone.

First off what happen in New Orleans is a tragedy, but one that has been expected for some time. I hope those people will be able to rebuild after such destruction. But, to your topic. You know why the UN won't give us aid? Let's see first we don't need it. Since we are the wealthiest state in the world we really don't need financial aid from others. 2nd we didn't ask for any because once again we don't need aid. 3rd the UN's money should be going to worthwhile cause like helping the Tsunami victums. As bad as the people in New Orleans have it, it was nothing compared to what the tsumani victums suffered. Tens of thousands died there and those poverty striken states couldn't deal with that level of aid needed in the wake of that disaster. And how many people do you think will die in the aftermath of this from disease and what not? I think maybe a handful, at worst.
Of all the reasons to be pissed at the UN, this is the dumbest. I'm sorry it just seems like you're just looking for the smallest thing the UN does just so you can hate on the UN. Since the UN doesn't need to interfere in disaster relief in a nation wholly capable of handling it themselves. Hating the UN for being ineffective, or by passing meaningless resolutions that they don't enforce(and for the record the state that has violated the most UN resolutions is Israel and the US will never mention that), maybe for ignoring the genocides in Rwanda, the Congo and now in Sudan, or maybe for the fact that a few countries pretty much control the UN(the US being one of those) and for a dozen more reasons. But to pick this one over all those is stupid. And the UN isn't anti-US. And if it isit's probably because we treat them like a puppet. We only bring things to the UN when it's for our benefit to do so, if it's not we act like they don't matter or we get pissed when they don't do what we want.

First off what happen in New Orleans is a tragedy, but one that has been expected for some time. I hope those people will be able to rebuild after such destruction. But, to your topic. You know why the UN won't give us aid? Let's see first we don't need it. Since we are the wealthiest state in the world we really don't need financial aid from others. 2nd we didn't ask for any because once again we don't need aid. 3rd the UN's money should be going to worthwhile cause like helping the Tsunami victums. As bad as the people in New Orleans have it, it was nothing compared to what the tsumani victums suffered. Tens of thousands died there and those poverty striken states couldn't deal with that level of aid needed in the wake of that disaster. And how many people do you think will die in the aftermath of this from disease and what not? I think maybe a handful, at worst.
Of all the reasons to be pissed at the UN, this is the dumbest. I'm sorry it just seems like you're just looking for the smallest thing the UN does just so you can hate on the UN. Since the UN doesn't need to interfere in disaster relief in a nation wholly capable of handling it themselves. Hating the UN for being ineffective, or by passing meaningless resolutions that they don't enforce(and for the record the state that has violated the most UN resolutions is Israel and the US will never mention that), maybe for ignoring the genocides in Rwanda, the Congo and now in Sudan, or maybe for the fact that a few countries pretty much control the UN(the US being one of those) and for a dozen more reasons. But to pick this one over all those is stupid. And the UN isn't anti-US. And if it isit's probably because we treat them like a puppet. We only bring things to the UN when it's for our benefit to do so, if it's not we act like they don't matter or we get pissed when they don't do what we want.

I'm not pissed off, I'm saying we don't deserve UN help.

How about we get our own damn military in?????

We have so much personnel, so many people stationed all over the country, surely they haven't *all* been sent to Iraq. Some are going in now, but shouldn't we be flying in troops to stop looters and help find people?

Bush needs to get himself organized, stop his stupid vacation, and get serious about something other than playing the 9/11 card over and over.

If the UN blantantly ignores this incident to spite the US then they are no better than us. If they're willing to let innocents suffer because one administration (That barely represents us) spit on them then what does that speak of the UN.

I'm not calling for the UN to help us, we're more than capable of helping ourselves. But I think that the people spitting on us because of Bush should be ashamed of themselves to in turn shun those in need of help.

If France desecrated a memorial and then in turn had a disaster and needed our help, would I? Yes, becuase the actions of a few do not represent the feelings of the whole.

If the UN blantantly ignores this incident to spite the US then they are no better than us. If they're willing to let innocents suffer because one administration (That barely represents us) spit on them then what does that speak of the UN.

I'm not calling for the UN to help us, we're more than capable of helping ourselves. But I think that the people spitting on us because of Bush should be ashamed of themselves to in turn shun those in need of help.

If France desecrated a memorial and then in turn had a disaster and needed our help, would I? Yes, becuase the actions of a few do not represent the feelings of the whole.

That's not the point. The point is we don't even DESERVE UN help. We told them to fuck off. They have every right to tell us the same.

southeast asia i wasn't responding to your post. When i started righting my post no one had responded yet. It took me a while to write it.

the UN has done a lot over the years to help people. And the US, as the world's only superpower, should have the ability to care for the victims of this horrible tragedy. Wach the videos fro mthe link and learn. Plus, if your a Robotech fan, you'll love it! :D
http://www.theshadowchronicles.com/info.php?id=un

*sigh*, less than a day or two after a disaster, and already people are just ranting on about the bullshit politics of it all. :(

If the UN blantantly ignores this incident to spite the US then they are no better than us. If they're willing to let innocents suffer because one administration (That barely represents us) spit on them then what does that speak of the UN.

I'm not calling for the UN to help us, we're more than capable of helping ourselves. But I think that the people spitting on us because of Bush should be ashamed of themselves to in turn shun those in need of help.

If France desecrated a memorial and then in turn had a disaster and needed our help, would I? Yes, becuase the actions of a few do not represent the feelings of the whole.
Stop acting like a child. The UN isn't not playing in your yard because they think you smell. They just can't afford a ball, and if they could afford a ball the would be better off playing with the kids down the street who don't even have a house.

That's not the point. The point is we don't even DESERVE UN help. We told them to fuck off. They have every right to tell us the same.

I think you missed mine, the United States doesn't deserve the UNs help, but the innocent people of Louisiana deserve at least sympathy rather than shun.

The question isn't whether or not we deserve UN aid, it's whether or not we need. If we weren't able to take care of this disaster ourselves, then we would deserve, but we can so we don't need their aid.

Where's the U.N. now?


With more than a million and a half people left homeless victims of a tragic storm in the good ol’ US of A, why hasn’t the UN come to help us out?

This was my blog post earlier. What do y'allz think?I think you should go cry on Chavez shoulder...he is sure to give some spare change.

Stop acting like a child. The UN isn't not playing in your yard because they think you smell. They just can't afford a ball, and if they could afford a ball the would be better off playing with the kids down the street who don't even have a house.

I'm not calling for the U.N. to help us, we are capable of helping ourselves

In your case...

I'm not asking the U.N. to play in our yard because we're sad that our dog died, I'm asking that the neighborhood kids don't spit on the dogs grave because it belonged to the white house.

We'll send the ultimate hero of the UN to save you.






teh UN teddy!! (http://www.joedrouin.com/M-BB220A.jpg)



(This one's canadian, just because people from the southern US love canadians. And cos it was the first pic I could find of the awesome UN Bear.)

We'll send the ultimate hero of the UN to save you.






teh UN teddy!! (http://www.joedrouin.com/M-BB220A.jpg)



(This one's canadian, just because people from the southern US love canadians. And cos it was the first pic I could find of the awesome UN Bear.)

That made me feel better ^_^

Let me get this straight.

The US ignores the UN. Blantantly disregards its wishes. There has been talk here of telling the UN to shove it all the time.

We basically laughed in its face.

And you want them to help us NOW?

God, you're so idiotic. You don't listen to the UN or follow its laws, but once a single disaster comes, it's "help us, UN, help us!"

Sicko neocons and their lack of responsibility. It's our mess now, we have to clean it up alone.Hey now. Watch the namecalling and flaming. Discussing things in a civilized manner breeds better debate!

Hey now. Watch the namecalling and flaming. Discussing things in a civilized manner breeds better debate!

It's nearing midnight here. That was the first thing I thought of. Sorry if it was kinda flamelike.

I like it that this has been going on for a bit, and President Bush is just NOW returning to Washington.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050831/pl_nm/weather_katrina_bush_dc_6;_ylt=AmdiAnicd3ClDdOM8WtzmJ0bLisB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

The simple fact is, the UN can't even match 1% of the resources the US can deploy, so there is no point even asking. It's a drop in the ocean which will make a greater difference in the Third World.

I'm not calling for the U.N. to help us, we are capable of helping ourselves

In your case...

I'm not asking the U.N. to play in our yard because we're sad that our dog died, I'm asking that the neighborhood kids don't spit on the dogs grave because it belonged to the white house.
Believe it or not it takes the kids a few days to come around with the cookies their mom baked.

That made me feel better ^_^


There's UN Beaver (http://www.joedrouin.com/J-UN010.jpg) too, but he's not as big or plush.

I like it that this has been going on for a bit, and President Bush is just NOW returning to Washington.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050831/pl_nm/weather_katrina_bush_dc_6;_ylt=AmdiAnicd3ClDdOM8WtzmJ0bLisB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Poor Bush, he had to abandon his vacation to go back to work. I sense the following in the next few days...

"My fellow Americans, it brings me a sad and heavy heart to what occured in Louisiana...*blah* <Insert false sympathy and frustration from cutting his vacation short>"

There's UN Beaver (http://www.joedrouin.com/J-UN010.jpg) too, but he's not as big or plush.

No wonder people love Canada :D

Poor Bush, he had to abandon his vacation to go back to work. I sense the following in the next few days...

"My fellow Americans, it brings me a sad and heavy heart to what occured in Louisiana...*blah* <Insert false sympathy and frustration from cutting his vacation short>"

Okay I'm a huge hater on bush, but I don't think he's evil. I'm sure that he feels true remorse for what has happened.

Okay I'm a huge hater on bush, but I don't think he's evil. I'm sure that he feels true remorse for what has happened.

Not as much remorse as a good leader should have. A good leader should love the people of their nation like their children, I highly doubt Bush feels this way.

Where's the U.N. now?


With more than a million and a half people left homeless victims of a tragic storm in the good ol’ US of A, why hasn’t the UN come to help us out?

This was my blog post earlier. What do y'allz think?I think you should go cry on Chavez shoulder...he is sure to give some spare change.
What did I tellYa Volksnation??? :D

http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=441365

All I'm saying is that the UN hasn't even said something sympathetic about it, when even CHAVEZ, a total lunatic, has. But they're the first ones to suspect the US of wrongdoing.

I don't think we need the help. I don't think we want it, either. But a bit of sympathy for the innocent dead people would be good.

All I'm saying is that the UN hasn't even said something sympathetic about it, when even CHAVEZ, a total lunatic, has. But they're the first ones to suspect the US of wrongdoing.

I don't think we need the help. I don't think we want it, either. But a bit of sympathy for the innocent dead people would be good.

DOH! Blinded by hatred are we!

"ANNAN EXTENDS CONDOLENCES TO VICTIMS OF HURRICANE KATRINA

The Secretary-General is deeply saddened by the loss of life and large-scale destruction wrought by Hurricane Katrina along the United States Gulf Coast.


He extends his sincere condolences to all the victims and their families."

http://www.un.org/News/ossg/hilites.htm

Maybe if the US wasnt spending hundreds of billions of dollars on iraqi's, it could be spending the money here. Just a thought.

The United States can handle it. The UN most likely won't intervene. It intervened in hte tsunamis because nations that couldn't help themselves needed it. The United Nations are a governing collection of bodies meant for world peace and stability. Assisting America when Africa still starves is not a perfect idea, especially when the budget is stretched to the limit as it is.

I think we're not letting the UN in because we're afraid that their inspectors will find our weapons of mass destruction.

DOH! Blinded by hatred are we!

"ANNAN EXTENDS CONDOLENCES TO VICTIMS OF HURRICANE KATRINA

The Secretary-General is deeply saddened by the loss of life and large-scale destruction wrought by Hurricane Katrina along the United States Gulf Coast.


He extends his sincere condolences to all the victims and their families."

http://www.un.org/News/ossg/hilites.htm
I had a suspicion that this was really a case of "The UN has not contacted Volksnation directly to offer condelence or support" and didn't have any real research behind it.

Tell me you're a watercooled VW guy, that would make it livable...

But, to the others who think like me, and to those willing to try, I say that there has never been a better time to withdraw our diplomats and funding from the UN.

We pay 22% of the UN’s regular budget, most of which ends up going nowhere but down the drain anyway. If they can’t come up with a little help, or even SYMPATHY, for our nation during this tragedy, screw ‘em.

Down with the NWO and down with the UN. Sounds good to me.

If the US requires and requests assistence from the UN, they might be happy to help. Niether has happened yet.

Yup.

The US won't need UN help. The UN would blend in too well with the looters and thugs running NO right now.

My heart aches for those who are getting hurt/maimed/raped/killed because of these people. I wish there was something I could do :mad: .

Maybe if the US wasnt spending hundreds of billions of dollars on iraqi's, it could be spending the money here. Just a thought.

The way NO is shaping up, we are going to have to spend a lot of money on them too. Day 1 Post-katrina was like the Fall of Baghdad-mass looting.

Probably in New York, unless something has changed...

But now that Mothership America is having the natural disaster, the UN hasn’t even taken their most common action, which is to hold a press conference and issue a statement/memorandum to the public.

Why?

Because they don’t like us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well...can you BLAME them?? I mean, look at the absolute asshole we sent as our "diplomat" to the U.N.!! If there was any proof AMERICA doesn't like the U.N. it was sending them John-fucking-bolton, who is such an asshole that Bush had to wait till a REPUBLICAN Congress went home, so that he could recess-appoint Bolton. I mean, if even a REPUBLICAN Cogress wouldn't okay this guy, he's a REAL asshole!

I hear this Bolton dickwad made like 750 amendments to a resolution submitted by Britain...among them was an amendment striking out something to do with "having respect for nature."

No fucking WONDER the U.N. doesn't like us!!

And just maybe, Katrina will have shown Bolton why it might be a good idea to respect nature. But I doubt he gives a shit.

I mean...Christ...we all but thumb our nose at the U.N. by sending a guy like Bolton...and then we WONDER why the UN doesn't like us?? Get real!!

I'm an American, and I can't BLAME the UN for not liking us!

I think we're not letting the UN in because we're afraid that their inspectors will find our weapons of mass destruction.

No, more likely they will find our weapons of mass deception (voting machines by Diebold)

No, more likely they will find our weapons of mass deception (voting machines by Diebold)
For the love of God, please, lay off on the Diebold Voting machines. I have dealt with hundreds of the things in my role as an Assisstant Clerk at my local board of elections. There is no reason to believe that the machines are in any way designed to cheat, steal or otherwise harm democracy. They have the goddamn printers built into them, and elections are NOT contained on the machine, but on a separate memory card (PCMCIA, if anyone is wondering) prepared not by Diebold, but by the board. The board can opt to randomize the names even!